I tried to do less "this"-ing for the explanations, but fell back into old habits during the actual Sanctum run. If you watch until (or skip to) the end though, you'll see why I had to keep this first take.
wouldnt brands or hexblast be the best though because you toss them on the ground and forget em? actively killing with blade vortex seems like itd take forever and higher risk of getting hit, at that point just use psrs
@@whateverppl1229 Yes brands or hexblast have a slight edge, but I'd argue BV is the next best up if you're not into the mine/brand playstyle. It's also definitely not slower in terms of killing, but does lack elusive.
Made a 24 div run 2 days ago with this run. This is the funniest strat to run sanctim but too much rng dependent. Just sold all my relics yesterday and got my mirror back
Instead of the spectre, you can run an AG with Kingmaker + Legacy of Fury + Leer Cast + Gruthkul pelt and 1 rare glove with t1 life regen rate (allows you to sustain degen on guardian blessing), if you have a free link you can put in meatshield but you shouldnt need to. I did this setup since 3.23 and works like a charm.
I actually tried that, and the AG died to a rain of arrows from an ice archer on the third floor of the first run, so I'm thinking it must be something about my clearing patterns that puts it in danger. Fortunately the spectres are sufficient for the boss burning.
I actually had a 16 Divine run just yesterday using this strat. It's pretty simple. Floors 1 and 2, aggressively seek treasure rooms, Merchants, and Pacts for -Resolve + Major or Minor buffs. Floors 3 and 4, Divines and Pacts, and when you get a Divine reward, Merchants. Sanctum and Heist are the only two ways I know how to make real currency in PoE. I've tried so many other strategies and never break 5D an hour.
map strategies are usually profitable but its annoying buying scarabs getting 8 mods or running t17s or getting priced out of your strategy and only certain strategies are actually easy to liquidate
@@CephuGaming The Currency Exchange Market has helped a lot on this front, I suppose, but you can't really beat the convenience of Sanctum either. It drops raw currency so most trades are just buying upgrades for your character. No interruptions to make a trade is a welcome feature, haha.
For sure, I think the only recent mapping strategy that beat it besides some of the ridiculous all-flame based stuff from Necropolis was the extra projectiles abysses from Affliction.
Thanks, even though I've seen this video, I was getting the boons that doubles first, then I was getting divines and I was questioning myself like what is going on, why don't my divines get multiplied. After seeing your comment now it clicked, lol.
Thanks for the great video! Sanctum is great and all, but I would also watch the video about the well-rounding the build to comfortably farm the t17 maps, cause I keep dying a lot there though my damage is fine and I try to avoid bad mods
Honestly, the most success I've had in T17s has come from just pumping damage and explosions. T17s take away your defenses AND your damage, but while you have to kill the monsters, there's no rule that says you have to get hit by them.
I like how u explained reduced merchant price scaling. I didn't know it was additive, thought it was multiplicative. What happens when you don't get any divs in ur run? Do u just lose the 2.5d chalice investment? And how often are you seeing sacred mirror? I'm my runs I barely see it, it seems super rare
Yeah you don't get a refund on the chalice if it doesn't get used or anything like that. Sacred mirror definitely seems to be rarer than the other majors, but if you can keep buying the minor->major upgrading boon and dilute the pool it comes up decently often. I've probably done 40 runs this league and gotten it 5-6 times (only 3-4 when I needed it though, sometimes you random it too early as well)
How would i get into this particular strategy? I've already been in sanctum jail since league start and been investing everything i have into my sanctum runner/alot into relics. Currently have full reveal, and 2 merchant relics I found but i cant find any with reduced merchant prices for under 15d
I'd start with a mix of 2-choice relics and 1-choice with some price reduction. Reveals are ok, but they're better for Original Sin runs when safety is everything.
Great video and great explanations, congrats. I have a full "one additional room" relics, do you think is worth to switch to 1 aditional offer ? Or is better to save more money first
Personally, I think “staying wide” is almost as good as having room reveals, and an additional choice never hurt anyone. Definitely worth building up towards
Do you think you could explain the crafting process for Wand, Shield, and Neck for this build? Have a good amount of currency and MB but unsure on the process for these.
I'm not sure what the process would be for the neck, since I bought it as is, and I don't know if it was intentionally a "two-mod" for the mist or what the creator intended. If you go on the discord there's info about the other two crafts pinned in the crafting discussion channel
Hey chronic love the guide. I currently have ralakesh and ~30 div and am looking for something to build a new toon for. Would you recommend taking your budget occultist build and beefing that up or going with the elementalist version and making it work without a mb?
It’s tough to say, because forbidden flesh/flame with forbidden power have been ridiculously cheap, and it’s hard to beat an elementalist with that stolen node on top.
@@ChronicPainless i actually need advice for a belt and amulet budget .. dont even know how to get that amulet ;O about belt i was thinking arns for triple damage (all res or hatred+skilleffect duration implicit) and somehow get attributes on small cluster and passive, but idk other solution was Micro-Distillery Belt with ele pen tincture on last flask slot, but also idk
I'm probably not using the strictly proper math terminology, but I think of scaling like that as different from something where it's closer to X^2. For example, if you think about how % increased explosion radius affects the eventual explosion AOE for expeditions, that's exponential scaling, because the area is Pi*(1+X)^2, but you'll never reach infinite area unless X is infinite. For merchant prices on the other hand, we're scaling towards an infinity that is much closer to us when X is just 1.
@@ChronicPainless I have like 27div rn so without a mageblood and the amulet can i just use a stigian belt and a normal amulet and rest all same from the mageblood varient?
Oh, sorry that's mislabeled obviously, the lower budget version is a different POB entirely. That 10-15 label is a left-over I forgot to change after importing this latest version of the character to it.
It has definitely happened, not yet to me though. I saw a mirror in the sanctum a couple leagues ago, but it was my 2nd run of the league so I didn't even have the full altar unlocked and wasn't running the doubler yet. Most pissed off lottery winner ever.
Mostly gold-maxing and shipping/mappers, but then I started with a couple of 4-5 Div sanctum relics with 1 choice and price reduction or just 2 choices, until I slowly replaced them with the more expensive ones.
I started with some simple 2-choices and a couple 1-choices with price reduction, then worked my way up from there. As long as you stay wide and keep a clean offer sheet, you'll make excellent profits.
@@ChronicPainlesswhat would you say is the minimum starting investment to be able to follow a starter version of your strategy? I have a hexblast miner so it's actually pretty well suited to Sanctum but haven't ever really invested into Sanctum
@@joeanon8568 If you're clearing sanctums you're making currency, but I'd probably hold off on investing in the Gilded Chalice until you have at least 7-8 choices and 20% reduction or so, which you can get with a mix of 2s with bad 2nd mods and 1s with reduction
And yet they still aren't overpriced for what they provide. Plus, you can hopefully sell them when you get bored of wiping the floor with Lycia and co.
OIn the one hand it's an interesting overview. On the other hand your presentation skills! :( This whole video could have been 40% shorter without the triple explanation for every choice.
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I tried to do less "this"-ing for the explanations, but fell back into old habits during the actual Sanctum run. If you watch until (or skip to) the end though, you'll see why I had to keep this first take.
wouldnt brands or hexblast be the best though because you toss them on the ground and forget em? actively killing with blade vortex seems like itd take forever and higher risk of getting hit, at that point just use psrs
@@whateverppl1229 Yes brands or hexblast have a slight edge, but I'd argue BV is the next best up if you're not into the mine/brand playstyle. It's also definitely not slower in terms of killing, but does lack elusive.
I'm just going to randomly play these over and over again. Thanks for the video though.
thank you for the video sir, I've had a ton of fun playing the build
Made a 24 div run 2 days ago with this run. This is the funniest strat to run sanctim but too much rng dependent. Just sold all my relics yesterday and got my mirror back
Yeah it's not for the risk averse, that's for sure
huge as always :)
Instead of the spectre, you can run an AG with Kingmaker + Legacy of Fury + Leer Cast + Gruthkul pelt and 1 rare glove with t1 life regen rate (allows you to sustain degen on guardian blessing), if you have a free link you can put in meatshield but you shouldnt need to. I did this setup since 3.23 and works like a charm.
I actually tried that, and the AG died to a rain of arrows from an ice archer on the third floor of the first run, so I'm thinking it must be something about my clearing patterns that puts it in danger. Fortunately the spectres are sufficient for the boss burning.
RIP kingmaker
I actually had a 16 Divine run just yesterday using this strat. It's pretty simple. Floors 1 and 2, aggressively seek treasure rooms, Merchants, and Pacts for -Resolve + Major or Minor buffs. Floors 3 and 4, Divines and Pacts, and when you get a Divine reward, Merchants.
Sanctum and Heist are the only two ways I know how to make real currency in PoE. I've tried so many other strategies and never break 5D an hour.
map strategies are usually profitable but its annoying buying scarabs getting 8 mods or running t17s or getting priced out of your strategy and only certain strategies are actually easy to liquidate
@@CephuGaming The Currency Exchange Market has helped a lot on this front, I suppose, but you can't really beat the convenience of Sanctum either. It drops raw currency so most trades are just buying upgrades for your character. No interruptions to make a trade is a welcome feature, haha.
For sure, I think the only recent mapping strategy that beat it besides some of the ridiculous all-flame based stuff from Necropolis was the extra projectiles abysses from Affliction.
Thanks, even though I've seen this video, I was getting the boons that doubles first, then I was getting divines and I was questioning myself like what is going on, why don't my divines get multiplied. After seeing your comment now it clicked, lol.
T17 strongbox farming is over 20d/hr
Impressive
Thanks for the great video! Sanctum is great and all, but I would also watch the video about the well-rounding the build to comfortably farm the t17 maps, cause I keep dying a lot there though my damage is fine and I try to avoid bad mods
Honestly, the most success I've had in T17s has come from just pumping damage and explosions. T17s take away your defenses AND your damage, but while you have to kill the monsters, there's no rule that says you have to get hit by them.
mad respect for lettin the bosses get off before you kill em 👍💦
I like how u explained reduced merchant price scaling. I didn't know it was additive, thought it was multiplicative. What happens when you don't get any divs in ur run? Do u just lose the 2.5d chalice investment? And how often are you seeing sacred mirror? I'm my runs I barely see it, it seems super rare
Yeah you don't get a refund on the chalice if it doesn't get used or anything like that. Sacred mirror definitely seems to be rarer than the other majors, but if you can keep buying the minor->major upgrading boon and dilute the pool it comes up decently often. I've probably done 40 runs this league and gotten it 5-6 times (only 3-4 when I needed it though, sometimes you random it too early as well)
Hey that was fantastic!
It would be much nice if you find mirror :) haha
How would i get into this particular strategy? I've already been in sanctum jail since league start and been investing everything i have into my sanctum runner/alot into relics. Currently have full reveal, and 2 merchant relics I found but i cant find any with reduced merchant prices for under 15d
I'd start with a mix of 2-choice relics and 1-choice with some price reduction. Reveals are ok, but they're better for Original Sin runs when safety is everything.
Great video and great explanations, congrats. I have a full "one additional room" relics, do you think is worth to switch to 1 aditional offer ? Or is better to save more money first
Personally, I think “staying wide” is almost as good as having room reveals, and an additional choice never hurt anyone. Definitely worth building up towards
Sad that sanctum legit almost drops 0 gold for kingsmarch
Thankfully, that's what my last video is for
Do you think you could explain the crafting process for Wand, Shield, and Neck for this build?
Have a good amount of currency and MB but unsure on the process for these.
I'm not sure what the process would be for the neck, since I bought it as is, and I don't know if it was intentionally a "two-mod" for the mist or what the creator intended. If you go on the discord there's info about the other two crafts pinned in the crafting discussion channel
So basically it's the cutedog strat for the 8 mirror clip, got it 👍
is it better to go with 2 additinal merchant choices or 1 choice and reduced prices?
Hey chronic love the guide. I currently have ralakesh and ~30 div and am looking for something to build a new toon for. Would you recommend taking your budget occultist build and beefing that up or going with the elementalist version and making it work without a mb?
It’s tough to say, because forbidden flesh/flame with forbidden power have been ridiculously cheap, and it’s hard to beat an elementalist with that stolen node on top.
A bit off-topic - how does assassin compare to either of the witch builds?
It's comparable at higher budget but I don't think I'd wanna league start it.
on a more budget approach only removing mageblood, is there any other option?
For a belt? Nothing springs to mind, probably just a stygian. There's a lower budget POB in the description as well
@@ChronicPainless i actually need advice for a belt and amulet budget .. dont even know how to get that amulet ;O
about belt i was thinking arns for triple damage (all res or hatred+skilleffect duration implicit) and somehow get attributes on small cluster and passive, but idk
other solution was Micro-Distillery Belt with ele pen tincture on last flask slot, but also idk
@@SaulitoNGaming Tincture won't do anything for BV
Im here for the meme tbh
If this raises the price even more on +2/reduced price relics, I'm going to riot.
1/(1-x) is exponential?
I'm probably not using the strictly proper math terminology, but I think of scaling like that as different from something where it's closer to X^2. For example, if you think about how % increased explosion radius affects the eventual explosion AOE for expeditions, that's exponential scaling, because the area is Pi*(1+X)^2, but you'll never reach infinite area unless X is infinite. For merchant prices on the other hand, we're scaling towards an infinity that is much closer to us when X is just 1.
@@ChronicPainless that is correct, it approaches infinity as prices approach zero
You have good grasp of concepts 👍
Sorry, maybe this is a stupid question lol, but... what spectres are you running?
Dark Marionettes, they are just there to give me Zealotry for 7 seconds via guardian blessing
@@ChronicPainless thanks a bunch!! ;)
Do you need a mageblood for this build? Is it compulsory?
No not at all, there's a Sanctum-viable minimum budget option POB in the description
@@ChronicPainless I have like 27div rn so without a mageblood and the amulet can i just use a stigian belt and a normal amulet and rest all same from the mageblood varient?
@@sayeedali3090 I think you'd want to start building from the lower budget version with that amount
thank you for the video ... but do something with the 10-15 div budget ... because it includes Mageblood .... i mean... srsly...
Oh, sorry that's mislabeled obviously, the lower budget version is a different POB entirely. That 10-15 label is a left-over I forgot to change after importing this latest version of the character to it.
Yo the relics you show are like 200 div each. The reduction is what allows this strat. Simple mirror buy in casual guide
Nothing casual about the sanctum
Imagine duplicating mirrors like that
It has definitely happened, not yet to me though. I saw a mirror in the sanctum a couple leagues ago, but it was my 2nd run of the league so I didn't even have the full altar unlocked and wasn't running the doubler yet. Most pissed off lottery winner ever.
Cutedog filmed duping a mirror to 8
every time i hear the word RIGHT i am getting stabbed in the brain
At least I managed to curb the "y'knows"
"Sanctum runners are pollution" - spicysushi
Then call me a Captain Planet villain of the week, because I'm all about the Sanctum life.
those relics are 50 D+ each what the heck were u doing to get a mirror worth of currency
Mostly gold-maxing and shipping/mappers, but then I started with a couple of 4-5 Div sanctum relics with 1 choice and price reduction or just 2 choices, until I slowly replaced them with the more expensive ones.
gl getting the same relics for 60-70 div per relic
I started with some simple 2-choices and a couple 1-choices with price reduction, then worked my way up from there. As long as you stay wide and keep a clean offer sheet, you'll make excellent profits.
@@ChronicPainlesswhat would you say is the minimum starting investment to be able to follow a starter version of your strategy? I have a hexblast miner so it's actually pretty well suited to Sanctum but haven't ever really invested into Sanctum
@@joeanon8568 If you're clearing sanctums you're making currency, but I'd probably hold off on investing in the Gilded Chalice until you have at least 7-8 choices and 20% reduction or so, which you can get with a mix of 2s with bad 2nd mods and 1s with reduction
damn 2 merchant choice + merchant price = 90div O_O
And yet they still aren't overpriced for what they provide. Plus, you can hopefully sell them when you get bored of wiping the floor with Lycia and co.
@@ChronicPainless i'm still on the 96% quantity of relic, drop Osin relic, i guess i'll stay here for a while before moving to the merchant strat.
@@Valsgarde That's a fun one too, been considering it myself. Would be nice to just rush and not have to worry about coins
@@ChronicPainless do you know any tip for that relic quan strat? like breakpoint or something? why is 25% expensive?
@@ChronicPainless oh wait, do you think we can leaguestart BV into sanctum?
Relics are expensive asf
Eventually yes, but there are cheaper versions you can start out with and still make great profits.
OIn the one hand it's an interesting overview. On the other hand your presentation skills! :( This whole video could have been 40% shorter without the triple explanation for every choice.
Why?? Just play penance brand or hexblast like a normal person.
Maybe because he likes this playstyle more? Just a thought 🤷
Hexblast and penance brand users are not normal people.
No, I don’t think I will.