Small question as I'm about to build one. The instructions show two types of glue are required. (502 and UHU) I assume where it does mention use glue it means UHU and and when it mentions foam adhesive use 502. They only show a pic of a tube used to glue two pieces of fuselage together. I assume I should use foam adhesive not UHU. Is that correct? I tied a test glue of two small EPP pieces I had from another build using UHU and they did not stick so not sure if UHU will be an issue. Thanks in advance.
Dial the rates right back for your first flight. It is a very capable model and can do a lot of heavy 3D manoeuvres. But for your first flight out all the rates to about 60%. If you can set up a 60% low rate and 100% high rate switch on your transmitter 😃
Not sure how much rc plane experience you have,but this is a good design and can fly very well..put plenty of expo in radio..get CG right and make sure all servos are working correctly and surfaces are moving in right direction set your ailerons and elevator up for low medium and high rates...start with low rates at first..as you get used to plane and get it trimmed on a calm day then try medium rates next..good luck
Testing results with the shinning. Flies good, but really need low throws to start with. I set my rates at 15 with 70 expo. Will up once I get used to the plane. Wonder what everyone else is using? On another note landing on grass fields is tough on props as plane tends to tip forward (typical tail dragger with small wheels). I decided to velcro a nosewheel for now and that works great as a prop saver. Used velcro so it can pull off easily rather than damaging the plane. A couple of other issues. The epp foam is weak. I had a control horn pull out with a bit of epp. Never had that issue with crash test hobbies. Their epp foam is much stronger. The control horn design is not the best. Would be much better to have ones with back on the opposite side of the elevator, rudder or alerion. And I wonder why they didn't cut the rudder on angle to avoid ground contact? But in spite of that it's is a good plane and looking forward to more outings.
@@mattharris2309 Sorry Matt but you are sorely misinformed there! EPP (Expanded Poly Propylene) is a completely different compound than EPS (Expanded Poly Styrene - also known as Styrofoam/Beer Cooler Foam/Horizon Slobby Foam.) EPS will be dissolved by anything that contains the mildest organic solvent, whereas EPP can be glued with Toluene containing glues with impunity. Try it! But also take note that the EPO foam (Expanded Poly Oleofin foam) that is used for many larger commercial RTF planes is a mixture of Polymerized Plastics and often WILL be affected by solvent containing glues in the same way as EPS. 😉
An interesting observation here: the comment with misinformation had an up-vote, and the comment with correct information had no votes. I did the right thing, and up-voted the correct information 😁😁.
@@roadstar499 Super glues (of any type) have their place but may not be the best choice for use on EPP. EPP (unlike EPS) is a very flexible foam and Super glues (also epoxy glues) tend to be hard and inflexible leading to cracking at the joints as the foam deforms. Another problem with EPP planes is that they usually have residual mould-release compound on the outside meaning that (if you don't remove it by solvents (isopropyl alcohol is good) or sanding, a lot of glues don't stick to it properly. Hot glue will melt through it and solvent-based glues like contact cements will generally dissolve it off without affecting the EPP foam.
really done a great job,thanks for sharing.
Thank you. We really hope to work with you more in the future!
I Have just built one of these, have you had any issues with the rudder touching the ground?
Yes but if you don’t use too much rudder until you are moving it is fine
Small question as I'm about to build one. The instructions show two types of glue are required. (502 and UHU) I assume where it does mention use glue it means UHU and and when it mentions foam adhesive use 502. They only show a pic of a tube used to glue two pieces of fuselage together. I assume I should use foam adhesive not UHU. Is that correct? I tied a test glue of two small EPP pieces I had from another build using UHU and they did not stick so not sure if UHU will be an issue. Thanks in advance.
UHU Por is for polystyrene that is a great glue to use or a polystyrene friendly glue. That was the only glue I used 😀 I hope this helps!
Test flew mine the other day and it is nearly unflyable. Did you set your one up as per the instructions or have you made some changes to he model?
Dial the rates right back for your first flight. It is a very capable model and can do a lot of heavy 3D manoeuvres. But for your first flight out all the rates to about 60%. If you can set up a 60% low rate and 100% high rate switch on your transmitter 😃
Not sure how much rc plane experience you have,but this is a good design and can fly very well..put plenty of expo in radio..get CG right and make sure all servos are working correctly and surfaces are moving in right direction set your ailerons and elevator up for low medium and high rates...start with low rates at first..as you get used to plane and get it trimmed on a calm day then try medium rates next..good luck
@@roadstar499 Yep. Switchable lower Rates (and Expo) are the key to getting used to this type of plane. 👍👍
Testing results with the shinning. Flies good, but really need low throws to start with. I set my rates at 15 with 70 expo. Will up once I get used to the plane. Wonder what everyone else is using? On another note landing on grass fields is tough on props as plane tends to tip forward (typical tail dragger with small wheels). I decided to velcro a nosewheel for now and that works great as a prop saver. Used velcro so it can pull off easily rather than damaging the plane. A couple of other issues. The epp foam is weak. I had a control horn pull out with a bit of epp. Never had that issue with crash test hobbies. Their epp foam is much stronger. The control horn design is not the best. Would be much better to have ones with back on the opposite side of the elevator, rudder or alerion. And I wonder why they didn't cut the rudder on angle to avoid ground contact? But in spite of that it's is a good plane and looking forward to more outings.
I bought this as an arf with electronics. Maybe I got the cg way off but it is impossible to fly. Very twitchy even with rates turned down.
Sorry, but why would you need to use "polystyrene-friendly glue" on an EPP-framed plane??? 🙄
Because it is still polystyrene and normal super glue/s would melt it
@@mattharris2309 Sorry Matt but you are sorely misinformed there!
EPP (Expanded Poly Propylene) is a completely different compound than EPS (Expanded Poly Styrene - also known as Styrofoam/Beer Cooler Foam/Horizon Slobby Foam.)
EPS will be dissolved by anything that contains the mildest organic solvent, whereas EPP can be glued with Toluene containing glues with impunity.
Try it! But also take note that the EPO foam (Expanded Poly Oleofin foam) that is used for many larger commercial RTF planes is a mixture of Polymerized Plastics and often WILL be affected by solvent containing glues in the same way as EPS. 😉
An interesting observation here: the comment with misinformation had an up-vote, and the comment with correct information had no votes. I did the right thing, and up-voted the correct information 😁😁.
Gorilla glue super glue works great..bonds well does not melt foam.
@@roadstar499 Super glues (of any type) have their place but may not be the best choice for use on EPP. EPP (unlike EPS) is a very flexible foam and Super glues (also epoxy glues) tend to be hard and inflexible leading to cracking at the joints as the foam deforms.
Another problem with EPP planes is that they usually have residual mould-release compound on the outside meaning that (if you don't remove it by solvents (isopropyl alcohol is good) or sanding, a lot of glues don't stick to it properly. Hot glue will melt through it and solvent-based glues like contact cements will generally dissolve it off without affecting the EPP foam.