I hope to see here a future comparison between the Network Acoustic Eno2 VS the galvanically isolated iFi LAN iPurifier. I don't expect the iFi to match the Eno2 but am hopeful that the cost/performance ratio favors the iFi unit.
Based on your recommendation, I purchased the original ENO filter and enjoyed the improvement. Thanks. Because I now use a network protocol optimized for gigabit (Diretta), I recently upgraded to eno2 -and agree with you that it is a step up. I had hoped that this review would tell us how it compares with the Muon Pro, which also supports the faster speed, in a very revealing setup. -Or have I likely maxed out Ethernet filtering ahead of my streamer? Network Acoustics says that eno2 delivers “90% of Muon’s benefits” but they don’t explain what that means in practical terms. What do you hear?
How does the Eno 2 compare to the Muon Pro? Is the Muon Pro worth the extra money? If the MU2 is less sensitive to ethernet noise, do any of the Network acoustic filters make a difference when used with the MU2 (I own one :-) )? And if so, would it be a worthwhile improvement for the money? Finally, I hear that JCAT cables (signature Gold, and Phantom) can be superior to the Network acoustic line of filters, have you had the chance to compare them to these fine filters?
The eno2 comes close to the Muon Pro but on the Grimm I prefer the Muon Pro. The difference is small under normal conditions. But when dimmers or smart lighting is in the vicinity it is a necessity. I have no experience with JCAT but if they are just good cables without filtering I can't see how that can lower the noise level on the ethernet signal.
I was looking at this as it pop up in a Spanish store I sometimes by from. I knew it would get a very positive review from you but was wainting for it. One question regarding the improvements, say, on your 2a/1b system... what is the dimension of the improvements you notice, is it something like an important upgrade in cabling? Like going with a new next tier amplifier (hence an improvement but not really much or night and day)? I understand it's hard to answer such a question but that's why I framed it in your reference systems.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks Hans. I'm sure I would, I was just recently blown away by the effect of a cheap, regular switch before the streamer. Never in my wildest dreams would I expect such a thing, so I'm sure this is massively more significant. But it will burn, 1200 euros for a small box :D
Would please do a formal review of your integrated amplifier? I'm very interested in purchasing an Ayre and am very impressed with it's sound. I'm very curious of why you chose it over other brands? Cheers !
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you; I really hope you will reconsider? You just stated THE most important aspect of my interest and I sure I'm not alone: Sound Quality! Not it's Dac or Phono or Streaming; It's sound quality. Audiophiles like myself consider sound quality THE reason we exist. Thus products like Accuphase; Luxman and Ayre are what we really aspire to own and enjoy thus we are most interested in these type of reviews... regards.
👍 💥💥💥💥💥 😊 Does the Eno S. "cut the high frequencies"? And the perception noticeable of sound resolution at high and medium frequencies? That is what I have experienced with a budget ethernet filter and a power filter. Thanks
Dear flat earther. On what basis do you believe you can prove that every phenomena that can effect sound / listening is known and all can be measured in a way that will not be improved on which might alter the result
@@georgecav Why you decided that I'm a flat earther? And of course, not all "phenomena" can be measured, because the people like author of the channel just believe that it exists and therefore not want to measure it. I not seen any characteristics of the "ethernet filter" nor in the video neither on the vendor website. So, will be interesting to see some real physical measurements what changed here.
@@justasimplefox The whole nad brand started according to founder peter lyngdorf because he had the strange idea to listen to his equipment and not just engineer great measurements and thus the legendary 3020 amp was born. Of course he wasn’t the first to do that , just possibly the first who applied it to a mass market product. Coincidentally years later I finally moved from my previously beloved NAIM amplification to one of his under appreciated TDAI3400 units. Why? Because it sounded better ( and has the ability to overcome my dreadful listening room problems) although it doesn’t have any ‘audio snob value’. The only measurement that matters in the end is how much I enjoy what I am listening to
@@georgecav This is probably why the new Radiant 6.2 from the Lyngdorf team is completely developed by engineers using computer simulated measurements and the same Peter created the most flat sounding class d amps because they measure perfect 😊
My issue is that I’m obtuse when it comes to the 100 megabyte of the Eno and the 1 gigabyte of the Eno 2. How do I know if my modem is delivering the signal to my Silent Angel switch at 100 megabyte or more like 1 gigabyte. My modem has a plate on it that says it’s a 1 gigabyte modem and has a 1 gigabyte storage but that doesn’t tell me if the signal is being output at 1 gigabyte. My network cable is a Chord Company high quality 4 twin pair conductor double shielded. So it has 8 conductors. My confusion is though whether the Eno 2 will perform very effectively regardless of whether it is receiving the signal at 100 megabytes or 1 gigabyte. I cannot get a simple answer from the manufacturer. To me it seems like the Eno 2 is marketed solely to the 1 gigabyte people. It confuses me enough that I’m more inclined to just get the Smoothlan instead.
HI @aussie8114 apologies if we've not we not been able to get the information you needed when you contacted us, but hopefully we can answer your question here. First off we can confirm the eno2 Ehternet Filter is universally compatible and will work with a 100mb/s, 1Gb/s or even 2.5Gb's connection. I think you maybe slightly confusing your internet service provider's quoted speed with that of your local network. Your Internet (ISP) connection speed does not need to be the same as your local Ethernet network, because all the devices in your network chain have buffered memories. So, assume a track is playing from Tidal or Qobuz. The router will receive and store packets of data in its buffer memory at the speed you download data from your ISP, which, let’s say for example, is 100MB/s. The router will then output these packets of data to your network switch. If the router has a 1Gb/s capacity, and the switch does too, then those packets will be transferred to the switch at 1Gb/s, and likewise from the switch to your streamer/server. Therefore, it is possible for data to move at different speeds at different points of the network. We hope this clarifies things, but please get in touch via the contact page on website if theres anything else at all we can help with. Best wishes. NA 🙂
Your network is a 1 Gb network. When connecting your streamer via the Eno will make that connection switch back to 100Mb. Using the eno2 will keep it at iGb. Whether 100Mb sounds better or worse depends on your equipment. But the eno2 also is a better filter, close to the quality of the Muon.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelI guess now I need to research whether 1 gigabyte is the better sounding speed vs the 100 megabyte speed. I think I recall you suggesting 100 was generally recognised as better yet Network Acoustics I believe state their tests showed 1 gigabyte was better sounding. I’m using Accuphase E4000 amp, Eversolo 8 streamer / DAC, Silent Angel switch with ifi powerX supply, Audiovector R3 Arrete speakers, quality cables and Isotek power conditioning & distribution.
1000 Gbits = 124 MB , Tidal max quality consumes like 40 MB/min , so like 666KB/s. Your cable modem/router is desinged to handle a max speed e.g. 1 Gbits, it is like your car can go at 200 Kmph , but your local traffic law will control the speed you can go. so how much data transfer can handle will depend on Telco/ISP link speeds/loads. When you connect the Eno,'s they negotiate speed thay can operate based on Cable Model Ethernet port speed , it could be 100/1000/2500 Mbps. It is like when you enter the highway you know the max speed that you can go in that highway speed , whether you want to go close to that max limit is up to other factors. Since you are listining to music it will be like 40BM/666KBps, but the connection is set at Cable Modem and Eno port speed.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelwhat about adding a filter after the fmc? My fmc is an AfterDark one with a Pinkfaun lan isolator and I got great results. Would you expect that I gain anything by changing the filter to an Eno one?
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I hope to see here a future comparison between the Network Acoustic Eno2 VS the galvanically isolated iFi LAN iPurifier. I don't expect the iFi to match the Eno2 but am hopeful that the cost/performance ratio favors the iFi unit.
Sorry but lending a LAN Purifier appears to be difficult.
Based on your recommendation, I purchased the original ENO filter and enjoyed the improvement. Thanks. Because I now use a network protocol optimized for gigabit (Diretta), I recently upgraded to eno2 -and agree with you that it is a step up. I had hoped that this review would tell us how it compares with the Muon Pro, which also supports the faster speed, in a very revealing setup. -Or have I likely maxed out Ethernet filtering ahead of my streamer?
Network Acoustics says that eno2 delivers “90% of Muon’s benefits” but they don’t explain what that means in practical terms. What do you hear?
I agree with Networks Acoustics.
Thank you sir, I always enjoy your content.
My pleasure entirely
Thank you Hans for the review. Did you by any chance compare it with the Muon pro?
see my other answers here
The ENO2 and Muon Pro are both absolute fantastic. Glad I got them and they improved so far also every setup when I bring them to friends.
Thanks for sharing
How does the Eno 2 compare to the Muon Pro? Is the Muon Pro worth the extra money? If the MU2 is less sensitive to ethernet noise, do any of the Network acoustic filters make a difference when used with the MU2 (I own one :-) )? And if so, would it be a worthwhile improvement for the money? Finally, I hear that JCAT cables (signature Gold, and Phantom) can be superior to the Network acoustic line of filters, have you had the chance to compare them to these fine filters?
The eno2 comes close to the Muon Pro but on the Grimm I prefer the Muon Pro. The difference is small under normal conditions. But when dimmers or smart lighting is in the vicinity it is a necessity. I have no experience with JCAT but if they are just good cables without filtering I can't see how that can lower the noise level on the ethernet signal.
Easy answer, the most expensive always better on this channel 😊
I was looking at this as it pop up in a Spanish store I sometimes by from. I knew it would get a very positive review from you but was wainting for it. One question regarding the improvements, say, on your 2a/1b system... what is the dimension of the improvements you notice, is it something like an important upgrade in cabling? Like going with a new next tier amplifier (hence an improvement but not really much or night and day)? I understand it's hard to answer such a question but that's why I framed it in your reference systems.
I find it a significant improvement. I can't say you will experience the same.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thanks Hans. I'm sure I would, I was just recently blown away by the effect of a cheap, regular switch before the streamer. Never in my wildest dreams would I expect such a thing, so I'm sure this is massively more significant. But it will burn, 1200 euros for a small box :D
Would please do a formal review of your integrated amplifier? I'm very interested in purchasing an Ayre and am very impressed with it's sound. I'm very curious of why you chose it over other brands? Cheers !
I won't do a full review. The reason I chose it was the sound quality and the versatility of the input circuits, like processor passthrough.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel Thank you; I really hope you will reconsider? You just stated THE most important aspect of my interest and I sure I'm not alone: Sound Quality! Not it's Dac or Phono or Streaming; It's sound quality. Audiophiles like myself consider sound quality THE reason we exist. Thus products like Accuphase; Luxman and Ayre are what we really aspire to own and enjoy thus we are most interested in these type of reviews... regards.
👍 💥💥💥💥💥 😊
Does the Eno S. "cut the high frequencies"? And the perception noticeable of sound resolution at high and medium frequencies? That is what I have experienced with a budget ethernet filter and a power filter. Thanks
Of course not. I would never have added it to my setup 1b if that was the case.
Do you have any measurements to proof the increasing of the audio quality?
Dear flat earther. On what basis do you believe you can prove that every phenomena that can effect sound / listening is known and all can be measured in a way that will not be improved on which might alter the result
@@georgecav Why you decided that I'm a flat earther? And of course, not all "phenomena" can be measured, because the people like author of the channel just believe that it exists and therefore not want to measure it.
I not seen any characteristics of the "ethernet filter" nor in the video neither on the vendor website. So, will be interesting to see some real physical measurements what changed here.
Measurements are so overrated 😅
@@justasimplefox The whole nad brand started according to founder peter lyngdorf because he had the strange idea to listen to his equipment and not just engineer great measurements and thus the legendary 3020 amp was born. Of course he wasn’t the first to do that , just possibly the first who applied it to a mass market product.
Coincidentally years later I finally moved from my previously beloved NAIM amplification to one of his under appreciated TDAI3400 units. Why? Because it sounded better ( and has the ability to overcome my dreadful listening room problems) although it doesn’t have any ‘audio snob value’. The only measurement that matters in the end is how much I enjoy what I am listening to
@@georgecav This is probably why the new Radiant 6.2 from the Lyngdorf team is completely developed by engineers using computer simulated measurements and the same Peter created the most flat sounding class d amps because they measure perfect 😊
Hi there Hans, would you test the Marantz M1?
Don't know yet
Is Ethernet noise also an issue if I connect a hard drive directly to my streamer / DAC and play local files directly from there?
@@RobertHeiduk no it isn't. No network between your storage and your streamer.
True, but then again you can have about the same phenomena on USB, SPDIF, AES/EBY or I²S. TOSlink is even worse.
Very nice review Hans!
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannel true but non of those are Ethernet 😎
My issue is that I’m obtuse when it comes to the 100 megabyte of the Eno and the 1 gigabyte of the Eno 2. How do I know if my modem is delivering the signal to my Silent Angel switch at 100 megabyte or more like 1 gigabyte. My modem has a plate on it that says it’s a 1 gigabyte modem and has a 1 gigabyte storage but that doesn’t tell me if the signal is being output at 1 gigabyte. My network cable is a Chord Company high quality 4 twin pair conductor double shielded. So it has 8 conductors.
My confusion is though whether the Eno 2 will perform very effectively regardless of whether it is receiving the signal at 100 megabytes or 1 gigabyte. I cannot get a simple answer from the manufacturer. To me it seems like the Eno 2 is marketed solely to the 1 gigabyte people.
It confuses me enough that I’m more inclined to just get the Smoothlan instead.
HI @aussie8114 apologies if we've not we not been able to get the information you needed when you contacted us, but hopefully we can answer your question here. First off we can confirm the eno2 Ehternet Filter is universally compatible and will work with a 100mb/s, 1Gb/s or even 2.5Gb's connection. I think you maybe slightly confusing your internet service provider's quoted speed with that of your local network. Your Internet (ISP) connection speed does not need to be the same as your local Ethernet network, because all the devices in your network chain have buffered memories. So, assume a track is playing from Tidal or Qobuz. The router will receive and store packets of data in its buffer memory at the speed you download data from your ISP, which, let’s say for example, is 100MB/s. The router will then output these packets of data to your network switch. If the router has a 1Gb/s capacity, and the switch does too, then those packets will be transferred to the switch at 1Gb/s, and likewise from the switch to your streamer/server. Therefore, it is possible for data to move at different speeds at different points of the network. We hope this clarifies things, but please get in touch via the contact page on website if theres anything else at all we can help with. Best wishes. NA 🙂
Your network is a 1 Gb network. When connecting your streamer via the Eno will make that connection switch back to 100Mb. Using the eno2 will keep it at iGb. Whether 100Mb sounds better or worse depends on your equipment. But the eno2 also is a better filter, close to the quality of the Muon.
@@NetworkAcousticsThe universally compatible statement is the important one. This is what seems to be unclear from everything I have read elsewhere 👍🏼
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelI guess now I need to research whether 1 gigabyte is the better sounding speed vs the 100 megabyte speed. I think I recall you suggesting 100 was generally recognised as better yet Network Acoustics I believe state their tests showed 1 gigabyte was better sounding.
I’m using Accuphase E4000 amp, Eversolo 8 streamer / DAC, Silent Angel switch with ifi powerX supply, Audiovector R3 Arrete speakers, quality cables and Isotek power conditioning & distribution.
1000 Gbits = 124 MB , Tidal max quality consumes like 40 MB/min , so like 666KB/s. Your cable modem/router is desinged to handle a max speed e.g. 1 Gbits, it is like your car can go at 200 Kmph , but your local traffic law will control the speed you can go. so how much data transfer can handle will depend on Telco/ISP link speeds/loads. When you connect the Eno,'s they negotiate speed thay can operate based on Cable Model Ethernet port speed , it could be 100/1000/2500 Mbps. It is like when you enter the highway you know the max speed that you can go in that highway speed , whether you want to go close to that max limit is up to other factors. Since you are listining to music it will be like 40BM/666KBps, but the connection is set at Cable Modem and Eno port speed.
I simply don´t get the pricepoint...same price as a premium dac or streamer 😔
It is aimed at a higher market although the improvement on a € 1500 streamer is remarkably
Thanks!
Thank you tool
Use optical network, done
If only. It only solves the galvanic parts and potentially introduces pollution in de media converter.
@@TheHansBeekhuyzenChannelwhat about adding a filter after the fmc? My fmc is an AfterDark one with a Pinkfaun lan isolator and I got great results. Would you expect that I gain anything by changing the filter to an Eno one?