BTW -- David Johnson's (Australia) wrote a pamphlet called Light in the Conscience (published by Pendle Hill in the US). It is like a small booklet, very easy to read, and I think it would serve as an excellent introduction to the Inner/Inward Light, and also to "the Quaker path." I recall that the last section begins with the question "What if it really is that simple?"
@benhudson4014 We were blessed to have him visit our meeting three weeks ago and spend a beautiful day of worship, fellowship meal, and have his reading and talk on Joan Vokins (Early Friend from 17th century). Very nice man, indeed! 🌿
Hi there, I enjoy your videos and was wondering what your perspective was on Quakers and humanism? How they overlap and what separates these two movements? I find I’m somewhere between the two at the moment and was interested in what the Quakers have to say about the humanist movement.
A very good point, I have been thinking about doing a video on this as I know a person who is both! I would suppose Humanists would fit into Quakerism in much the same way as other non-theists might and vice-versa. I could imagine the difference might be the idea of worship, which could be a stumbling block for a Humanist. That being said, it is too for some non-theist Quakers too! A new understanding of that phrase and the actions taken in that time would probably have to be done to make it fit with a Humanist outlook.
@@Quake-It-Up I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on it or even an interview with a humanist UK member, as I’m struck by how much they both have in common and how they more often than not, come to the same reasonable conclusions regarding the value of every person, secularisation, civil rights, environmentalism, justice, etc. Sometimes I wonder if humanism UK is the next natural step for many Quakers who find it hard, as I do, to believe in the more theological supernatural parts of Quakerism but still see the inherent worth of each individual (the light within). I bought the book you recommended ‘A Testament of Devotion’ but struggled with the more religious tone of it all. Yet something keeps drawing me in to Quakerism, perhaps the strong conviction many members have when it comes to helping other people and the environment, and the core values of simplicity, silence and peace. Basically I neither call myself as a humanist or a Quaker yet but am still seeking and so your content and perspective could help a lot. Thanks for the time you put into it all.
@@Quake-It-Up De fleste tilgjengelige boeker er på engelsk. Men vi har en bok på norsk som heter «Tro og liv» som er utgitt av Society of Friends (Quakers) in Norway.
I didn't include any biographies just because I wanted it to be focussed on Quakerism more generally. I will be doing a video on Woolman and so will give a shout out then :)
@ Thank you! I brought the point up because, alas!, very few of the Quakers whom I have met at spasmodic intervals in sixty years have not been, by their own confession, Biblical in any sense. I remember one meeting where I attended as a visitor over a period, and where I eventually read from, and commented very briefly commented on, the Bible placed on the table; but where, after the meeting, during a cup of tea, I was subject to glares and shunning and barely a civil word. I understand that there are about eight thousand evangelical Quakers in the US, but not many elsewhere.
BTW -- David Johnson's (Australia) wrote a pamphlet called Light in the Conscience (published by Pendle Hill in the US). It is like a small booklet, very easy to read, and I think it would serve as an excellent introduction to the Inner/Inward Light, and also to "the Quaker path." I recall that the last section begins with the question "What if it really is that simple?"
@@ajits64 David Johnson a friend indeed,,,,,blessed,,,,,
@benhudson4014 We were blessed to have him visit our meeting three weeks ago and spend a beautiful day of worship, fellowship meal, and have his reading and talk on Joan Vokins (Early Friend from 17th century). Very nice man, indeed! 🌿
My reading list is growing!
Thank you for your listing and descriptions. I love Thomas R. Kelly's book that you mentioned. Now I need to find that one and revisit it again soon!
No problem :)
Hi there, I enjoy your videos and was wondering what your perspective was on Quakers and humanism? How they overlap and what separates these two movements? I find I’m somewhere between the two at the moment and was interested in what the Quakers have to say about the humanist movement.
A very good point, I have been thinking about doing a video on this as I know a person who is both! I would suppose Humanists would fit into Quakerism in much the same way as other non-theists might and vice-versa. I could imagine the difference might be the idea of worship, which could be a stumbling block for a Humanist. That being said, it is too for some non-theist Quakers too! A new understanding of that phrase and the actions taken in that time would probably have to be done to make it fit with a Humanist outlook.
@@Quake-It-Up I’d love to hear more of your thoughts on it or even an interview with a humanist UK member, as I’m struck by how much they both have in common and how they more often than not, come to the same reasonable conclusions regarding the value of every person, secularisation, civil rights, environmentalism, justice, etc. Sometimes I wonder if humanism UK is the next natural step for many Quakers who find it hard, as I do, to believe in the more theological supernatural parts of Quakerism but still see the inherent worth of each individual (the light within). I bought the book you recommended ‘A Testament of Devotion’ but struggled with the more religious tone of it all. Yet something keeps drawing me in to Quakerism, perhaps the strong conviction many members have when it comes to helping other people and the environment, and the core values of simplicity, silence and peace. Basically I neither call myself as a humanist or a Quaker yet but am still seeking and so your content and perspective could help a lot. Thanks for the time you put into it all.
@@MrParkerwatkins Quakers resonate!
Takk igjen for en interessant video.
:D Jeg vet ikke om det finnes noen gode om kvekerismen boeker paa norsk?
@@Quake-It-Up De fleste tilgjengelige boeker er på engelsk. Men vi har en bok på norsk som heter «Tro og liv» som er utgitt av Society of Friends (Quakers) in Norway.
What about reginald reynolds books on John woolman!
I didn't include any biographies just because I wanted it to be focussed on Quakerism more generally. I will be doing a video on Woolman and so will give a shout out then :)
Is the Bible not your number one recommendation?
A fair point, I suppose I meant books about Quakerism overtly, like how it works and stuff
@ Thank you! I brought the point up because, alas!, very few of the Quakers whom I have met at spasmodic intervals in sixty years have not been, by their own confession, Biblical in any sense. I remember one meeting where I attended as a visitor over a period, and where I eventually read from, and commented very briefly commented on, the Bible placed on the table; but where, after the meeting, during a cup of tea, I was subject to glares and shunning and barely a civil word. I understand that there are about eight thousand evangelical Quakers in the US, but not many elsewhere.