I've never switched out my treble hook but I will say every cast and retrieve on the beach I pull in one to two sand fleas on my treble hook from draging into the sand. Okay if you're collecting sand fleas but I have foul hooked small fish before so maybe switching to a single hook might be something I will try
Same with the sand fleas. I thought it was a fluke chance when I snagged my 1st one, turns out they are just so thick that they are easy to snag. I like the single hook personally, safer on you, better for the fish, and I think it provides a more solid hookup.
My thoughts as well. I live in the San Francisco Bay and I have foul hook small halibuts that were the size of a 50-cent piece coin and I felt bad for doing so I was using a diwa zakana jig which has been successful to me but I feel the treble hook is just a bully out there in the water for foul hooking
Hi. Like your informative videos. But interested on what the blanks you used for your rods. I'm not competition as I am based in the UK but come over and fish a few times a year. LOL
Thanks for the view! The blank in this video is MHX. Moderately priced and holds up really well for all I put them through. I abuse my surf rods quite a bit as I ride a good ways with them in the back of the truck. I honestly build with a lot of different blanks though. It all depends on what the customer is looking for.
Man, those are some great rods you’re looking at. I’m a rod builder, so I generally use my own rods, but I could probably get behind either one. Here is my take though, if you’re going to throw more artificial lures, meaning casting 100+ times in a day, go with the 8’. If you’re looking to do more passive style fishing, casting a line out and letting it rest in a rod holder between strikes, go with the 10’ rod. You can’t go wrong in either case, you can fish artificial with the 10’ rod and you can soak bait with the 8’ if needed. However, if you have an idea of what you plan to do most often, then get the rod for that.
This style is pretty versatile. I’ve had success in a wide range of conditions. That being said, I normally break this guy out when I can see fish in the surf to throw to. So, while it can catch fish in super rough conditions, I generally find the best opportunities when conditions are calm enough to see fish breaking in the surf.
In general, lighter weight line is less visible to the fish thus provides better presentation. However, you have to weigh the benefit of minor improvements to presentation vs more breaks. It’s a delicate balance that also depends on the fish you’re targeting.
I think 30” is kind of long. I generally use between 12” and 20”. That being said, the reason I stay in that range is because I try to keep the knot out of the guides as much as possible. But, if you can tie a good line-to-line knot that doesn’t catch on your guides on the way out then you can use whatever length leader you want. For braid to mono or fluro I use the FG which glides great through my guides.
@@tightlineshightides great thanks! And what I’m using the lures that you were displaying in the video kind of like spoons and Clarks spoon diamond jigs should I use fluorocarbon? Maybe like 30 pound fluro with 20 pound braid?
I like to use 30# fluorocarbon. It’s a little more abrasion resistant than mono, and 30# usually holds up to most fish I catch on the beach. Just be sure to check for damaged line between cast.
@@tightlineshightides great thanks, does the fluro sinking a little more effect the spoons movement or does it not work as effectively if it drops lower in the water
I would say, for these jigs, buoyancy isn’t really a factor. The weight of the jigs is pretty high and they will drag either one to the bottom pretty quickly. If I were using a lighter swim bait in calm waters, I might consider buoyancy of the line, but not so much for surf.
I can’t 100% confirm this spec, but I think it is IPX8. In any case, the reel in this video is several years old and exclusively fished saltwater. I try not to dunk it, but it has gotten soaked a few times over the years and is still cooking. I have a stick cleaning routine after every trip and service them annually.
The Shimano Stradic FL and FM are not IPX rated. They do have a protective coating that shields it from corrosion. The Stradic SW (JDM reel) has a IPX8 rating.
I have foul hooked my fair share over the years. However in my experience I hook the majority of them in the mouth, not a snag. That being said, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen some people purposely trying to snag them with a treble. Not worried about a strike at all, just ripping hooks through the water. Pretty interesting strategy, just not my cup of tea. Thanks four the view and comment!
Nomad ridgeback long cast 40g is by far the best casting metal i've used, action is very unique and casts like a bullet!
Sick! I love Nomad Design lures. I may give the 20 and 40 a shot.
What colors have you tried?
This is a very informative video. You earned a new subscriber.
Awesome, thank you!
I am glad you liked it!
Thanks for helping demo!
Hope you enjoyed it! Thanks for the view
I use a 3 ft 60lb mono leader to a barrel swivel to 30lb braid. For spoons
Do you ever feel like the larger mono spooks some of the fish?
I've never switched out my treble hook but I will say every cast and retrieve on the beach I pull in one to two sand fleas on my treble hook from draging into the sand. Okay if you're collecting sand fleas but I have foul hooked small fish before so maybe switching to a single hook might be something I will try
Same with the sand fleas. I thought it was a fluke chance when I snagged my 1st one, turns out they are just so thick that they are easy to snag.
I like the single hook personally, safer on you, better for the fish, and I think it provides a more solid hookup.
My thoughts as well. I live in the San Francisco Bay and I have foul hook small halibuts that were the size of a 50-cent piece coin and I felt bad for doing so I was using a diwa zakana jig which has been successful to me but I feel the treble hook is just a bully out there in the water for foul hooking
Where I live my jig pulls up clams.. Sand fleas when i fish towards marina ca to socal.. Thanks for your channel!
Hi. Like your informative videos. But interested on what the blanks you used for your rods. I'm not competition as I am based in the UK but come over and fish a few times a year. LOL
Thanks for the view!
The blank in this video is MHX. Moderately priced and holds up really well for all I put them through. I abuse my surf rods quite a bit as I ride a good ways with them in the back of the truck.
I honestly build with a lot of different blanks though. It all depends on what the customer is looking for.
I’ve got 6000 shimano Saragossa and I’m using 20 lb braid which gets me just about 300 yards and I use a 40 lb fluro leader is this good?
Perfect! That’s a great reel and 40lb will work fine to
Could I use a shimano teramar xx se 8ft rod for surf fishing? Or should I do a 10 foot st Croix siege?
Man, those are some great rods you’re looking at. I’m a rod builder, so I generally use my own rods, but I could probably get behind either one.
Here is my take though, if you’re going to throw more artificial lures, meaning casting 100+ times in a day, go with the 8’. If you’re looking to do more passive style fishing, casting a line out and letting it rest in a rod holder between strikes, go with the 10’ rod.
You can’t go wrong in either case, you can fish artificial with the 10’ rod and you can soak bait with the 8’ if needed. However, if you have an idea of what you plan to do most often, then get the rod for that.
What should be the surface conditions in order for this style to work?
- water clarity?
- depth?
- current?
This style is pretty versatile. I’ve had success in a wide range of conditions.
That being said, I normally break this guy out when I can see fish in the surf to throw to. So, while it can catch fish in super rough conditions, I generally find the best opportunities when conditions are calm enough to see fish breaking in the surf.
Would 25 lb fluro help the presentation more?
In general, lighter weight line is less visible to the fish thus provides better presentation. However, you have to weigh the benefit of minor improvements to presentation vs more breaks. It’s a delicate balance that also depends on the fish you’re targeting.
does the fluro break easily or something?
No, it’s just that really toothy fish can cut you off. Some people will fish with wire, but that really hurts the presentation if you ask me.
Does a 30 inch leader monofilament work well for using these types of lures and maybe like spoons as well
I think 30” is kind of long. I generally use between 12” and 20”. That being said, the reason I stay in that range is because I try to keep the knot out of the guides as much as possible. But, if you can tie a good line-to-line knot that doesn’t catch on your guides on the way out then you can use whatever length leader you want.
For braid to mono or fluro I use the FG which glides great through my guides.
@@tightlineshightides great thanks! And what I’m using the lures that you were displaying in the video kind of like spoons and Clarks spoon diamond jigs should I use fluorocarbon? Maybe like 30 pound fluro with 20 pound braid?
I like to use 30# fluorocarbon. It’s a little more abrasion resistant than mono, and 30# usually holds up to most fish I catch on the beach. Just be sure to check for damaged line between cast.
@@tightlineshightides great thanks, does the fluro sinking a little more effect the spoons movement or does it not work as effectively if it drops lower in the water
I would say, for these jigs, buoyancy isn’t really a factor. The weight of the jigs is pretty high and they will drag either one to the bottom pretty quickly.
If I were using a lighter swim bait in calm waters, I might consider buoyancy of the line, but not so much for surf.
Is that reel ipx rated ?
I can’t 100% confirm this spec, but I think it is IPX8.
In any case, the reel in this video is several years old and exclusively fished saltwater. I try not to dunk it, but it has gotten soaked a few times over the years and is still cooking. I have a stick cleaning routine after every trip and service them annually.
The Shimano Stradic FL and FM are not IPX rated. They do have a protective coating that shields it from corrosion. The Stradic SW (JDM reel) has a IPX8 rating.
Thanks for the clarification. Great info
@@tightlineshightides Honestly, I use a Stradic FL 5000XG in the surf too. I’ve not had any issues with them three years and running.
They are pretty legit. Never had an ounce of issues with any of mine and I’m out on the beach with them all the time.
Most mackerel are snagged on treble hooks.
I have foul hooked my fair share over the years. However in my experience I hook the majority of them in the mouth, not a snag.
That being said, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen some people purposely trying to snag them with a treble. Not worried about a strike at all, just ripping hooks through the water. Pretty interesting strategy, just not my cup of tea.
Thanks four the view and comment!