Gutted you didn't put Northern Ireland in, there's a whole fleet of Ryanair planes ready to intercept threats for low low prices! Love your stuff Cap, keep going!
I have a feeling that they would first require an MOD official with a sack of money onboard to pay for all the extras. Ya know..... "Why yes sir that was a flight of Tu95s that just passed us. £10 please"
NATO has its own E-3 component operating from bases in Norway, Germany, Italy, Greece and Turkey. It's an integral part of NATO's air defences and the British have access to it. In other words, no need to hope for the Americans in that scenario. Britain already has AWACS access all the time.
I think it's the vs china vids that caused the prob....the ccp deploy 1000's of people to flag vids that make them look bad....even in video games.....Cap keeps showing china 'not winning overwhelmingly' so that's bad.
Mine too. I was Thomas, the MRA on jubilee's mens rights vs feminist jubilee episode released recently. I'm now down to less than 100 views per video, despite my subscribers going up. TH-cam obviously messes with views
Tbh I'm not surprised. Cap has said some questionable things in videos he has now taken down. He has made slurs regarding Asians Muslims and blacks this was bound to happen. I don't care what another man says but I refuse to paint cap as a victim.
USAF E-3s should be able to talk to the Typhoons and Lightning IIs via Link 16 data link. I know this is supposed to be a UK alone battle, but I believe you know the aircraft at RAF Lakenheath would be scrambled and gladly support the RAF and RN.
To be honest, I think some of those 64 Eurofighters should have been American fighters. I don't think the UK is going to have more than, say, 40 Eurofighters at most, but we can just pretend that 30 or so were US F-15s or F-35s. Also, there are a few Patriots in the UK as well.
@@totalNERD-eo7wxtheoretically yes. But Lake heath is a training and Repair base recycling aircraft from exercises in Europe and Operations in the Middle East. If you say there’s 72 aircraft at lakenheath. 30% of those will be stripped for parts awaiting refit. 30% will be being repaired. 30% will be used for training or operational. Very few would be available in the event of even 1 hours warning that the attack was happening. They’d have to call in crews not on alert in peacetime which is usually at least an hours notice to move. They’d have to strip off the dummy weapons. Sign out live munitions. Load them onto aircraft. Get them in the air and vectored up to 300 miles away. Of the 72 aircraft maybe 20 would be in the air with various states of readiness within an 2 hours. Same thing happens in the U.S. when there’s unidentified aircraft. The hardest part is getting fjurisdiction/ permission to launch With live weapons on a combat mission on home or another country’s soil. Famous case being that M60 Tank that was stolen from a guards base less than 30 miles from an Apache airstrip. And the apaches couldn’t even get clearance to load live ammunition by the time the tank had run out of fuel after 2 hours. Patriots on the other hand yes. They are actually the most capable air defence in the whole of the UK. There’s nothing else that’s on constant standby. The U.S. quite rightly don’t trust Britains non existent air defence . Because even the type 45 destroyers only put to sea with 12 missiles sometimes and the rapier Systems that can de deployed can only intercept slow moving aircraft and the stormer HVM’s we had are all gone to Ukraine at this point
Thanks Cap, keep it up please, if possible! But I think you are missing the point that UK and allied intel would detect the bombers warming up at Olenya, and then the Nordic allies with their own AWACS and at least 170 Gen 4.5-5 fighters would help track and intercept the bombers and missiles. I believe Mr. Felton took a very unfortunate step into where he is clearly not knowledgeable posting the video you are referring to.
I haven't actually watched the video yet. But the one superpower that Europe has in the 21st century is ... drumroll ... teamwork! Can any single country in Europe defend itself against a determined attack by a power like Russia? No. But all of (western) Europe together can do it! So, this might be an interesting thought experiment, but you (well, Mr. Felton in particular) should be careful not to start fearmongering. In reality the UK wouldn't be alone in this kind of situation.
Sorry but I have to play devil's advocate here. Yes, the NATO forces would detect the bombers taking off and flying well before they got within range of the UK. BUT!!!! The current NATO is a pathetic shell of it's cold war version and would at best put up a couple pair of very lightly armed fighters to non-intrusively (from a long distance) monitor the Russian bombers who stated prior to take off that they were on a training mission around the Norwegian and North Seas. By the time the bombers turn into the UK on afterburner and fire missiles it would be too late. The UK is far too weak to deal with a
All NATO aircraft can communicate. This has been proven in coalition work. So AWACS would be in full effect. And they can also communicate with the EWS making a huge network of early warning. The Scandinavian states would forewarn us of such a flight heading out way and offer support
Why nautical miles you ask: I watched a video on this just yesterday. Nautical miles are based on the latitude/longitude system. Each of the big fat gridlines on the earth map is a degree of longitude/latitude (yes degrees in the sense that there are 360 of them around the planet). Each degree is subdivided into minutes and seconds for coordinate purposes. A nautical mile is exactly one minute of arc in the coordinate system. Just happens to work out at ~1.15 land miles (land miles being derived from an entirely different set of arbitrary assumptions). Whilst we're on the subject, the nautical unit of speed, the knot, is defined as one minute of arc per hour, or one nautical mile per hour.
Thank you Cap! In addition to all of the points you raised, I would say there's a high degree of certainty that the US/NATO satellite and intelligence services would have ample warning of such Russian preparatory movements, allowing for the required defensive measures to be taken for such a large attack. For example, there was that US report leaked from the Pentagon regarding the analysis of Israel as they were preparing for their retaliatory strikes against Iran, which included the weapons and aircraft they were assembling several days prior to launch. There's also the US forces based in the UK (as you noted), which I believe would be virtually certain to assist during the response per NATO Article 4, as any attack on the UK would essentially be an attack on the US jets based there. Unless there was a total breakdown in intelligence, there should be time for air, ground (additional SAM systems), and naval (movement of additional guided missile frigates and destroyers from NATO allies, including from the Nordic countries) to move into better positions prior to such an attack. Finally, per the tragic war occurring, coming up on three years now, we have not seen such a large-scale precision attack from Russia, which has been similar to this. Even when you include their ground-launched assets, smaller fighter/attack aircraft, and drone launches, they have simply never dedicated this massive amount of ordinance to any one single attack. Per their performance in the war, I believe this is due to inadequate logistics, a smaller ratio of "flight-ready" aircraft ultimately working and maintained to all launch at the same time, and a shortage of stockpiled precision munitions to dedicate to any one single attack effort. Cheers, Cap, and thank you as always!
One thing i wonder is; would norway or finland be able to possibly detect the bombers on their way to release their payload? if so then early preparations could be made
Yes, I believe the bombers would be detected by Norway. The Globus radar site at Vardo, Norway is positioned on an island within 30NM of the northern Russian border - right along the path of this theoretical airstrike.The company line is that Globus is for tracking space objects. However, in 2000, there was a storm that damaged the Globus II radome, uncovering the dish. Suddenly, you could see that the dish was pointed right at Moscow, not at you know, space. My bet is that NATO would know and therefore Britain would know of any strike package over the Barents Sea and would scramble interceptors as soon as any such force started vectoring towards the UK.
A nautical mile is 1/5400 the distance from the equator to the poles, or 1/60 of a degree of latitude (with very small errors introduced by by the Earth not being a perfect sphere). Very useful when your method of navigation is based on measuring the positions of stars. A statute mile (or land mile), is 80 chains. A chain is twenty-two yards, and was literally the length of a standard surveyor's chain used to measure land. Arbitrary, but an arbitrary standard still works, which means you and your neighbor can agree who owns which bit of land.
What everyone seems to have bypassed is that it's not only the U.K's EWR that comes into play, we are also linked to all Ally warning systems too, as soon as a threat is detected by an ally system, the U.K is notified on vector and altitude of threat.
Hi Cap. Great vid mate. Please keep them coming. Observations: 1. I was based at Brize Norton in 2008. There was 1 x VC10 Tanker kept on QRA Standby there then for QRA Fighter refueling support. I would assume that 1 x Voyager undertakes that dury now. With several hours notice a few more Voyager's would probably be made available for Typhoon Force support. 2. The RAF's and FAA's Force of currently 24 to 36'ish (guestimate) F35B's are based at RAF Marham. Again with several hours notice a good proportion of these could be made available to assist if they are not away on other duties ..... eg on the Carrier 3. I would assume NATO intra-operabilty would mean data links work across the board between Nations. 4. I would guess all major Russian bases are monitored by satellite. Any unusual activity ...... 20 bombers being fueled and armed ...... would mean extra monitoring by NATO as a whole. We'd know when a force this size took off. 5. As you mentioned, there's the USAF assets at Lakenheath and Mildenhall as well 👍
Possible but there are listening stations to track subs, so how close can they realistically get? I don't know, but someone does, and it's probable that Russia knows exactly how close they can get before being detected... but with other NATO countries also patrolling this would not be a slam dunk for VP, the mad king of Russia
If Russia were to surely coordinate their attack with very large ballistic missile submarines, I very much assure you there would be NATO attack submarines working to shadow and counter them. NATO is a truly scary defensive alliance if called upon. I've read stories from USN attack submarine crews who literally just say outside Russian territorial waters near their sub bases and tracked movements. I doubt they stopped doing so today, particularly with Russia invading Ukraine.
Absolute not an expert, but since the US and GB are both NATO members, I would have assumed the AWACS data-link could be shared more or less instantly.
26:28 a statute mile is related to some standardization attempts to make commonly sized parcels and survey equipment fit nicely in maps. NM are a minute of latitude so if you're looking at a map 60 NM are one degree
I got the impression that Mark Felton was anti-war in his political stance after watching that video. This pleasantly surprised me as I would have expected him to be extremely hawkish.
Hats off for the sim - quite the effort went into this. This goes to show the relevance of intercept fighters of NATO because once Evenes in Norway scrambles their F35's and they see the Badgers with the weapons underwing you would have to expect they would go weapons hot the second one took a shot and that whole air wing would go boom. Then all bets would be off as that red button gets closer to being pushed unfortuantely...what a mess... All that said it is crazy that the UK doesn't have a single AWACS. Didn't know that and shows you can learn something every day on your channel. Not comforting but well done Cap and stay well.
Think we have wedgetails on order, looooong history of procurement mismanagement and trying to use our own tech to provide what our allies have already produced 😳 but just in case we ever go to war with America, let’s not buy E2s or E3s.
Pretty sure the RAF are getting the E7 Wedgetail that’s in service here in Aus with the RAAF. So hopefully that deficiency will be rectified in the future
This comment is 100% pure and unadulterated engagement to ensure that anyone who is looking should be able to see this masterful simulation. I do hope this post has enough content to count.
Cap and crew, suggestion? Ask the guys that run Pepperbox to host your longer videos? I don't know the first thing about hosting YT vids or anything else actually (just a consumer), but it seems like those guys all ran into the same problem and started their own thing. Might be worth a look? Can't fly on an empty belly.😅
Good evening Cap! That EWR you positioned in the far North of Scotland is in the county of Caithness (not any part of the Outer Hebrides, which are an island chain off the west coast of Scotland). For some reason I thought you'd put an oil rig there to represent the Dounreay nuclear power plant, and I *was* going to write and say that Dounreay has been offline for quite a while now, and is being decommissioned (it operated as a power station from 1955 to 1994, when decommissioning began), until I noticed the "EWR" tag on the map, right before the Russians deleted it... The Royal Navy and Rolls Royce also operated two test reactor plants at the Dounreay site to simulate nuclear power plants for the submarine fleet (the site was known as HMS Vulcan) - that site operated from 1965 to 2015. I know there was an American naval station just to the west of Thurso; it was a US Navy Communications Station - it was open between 1962 and 1992. Between UKAEA Dounreay and the US Navy Communications Station, that was Thurso's two main sources of employment for a few decades. Now all they have there really is a call centre for BT, and a factory producing lithium-ion batteries under MoD contract. Hope TH-cam stops demonitizing your stuff, what a damn shame with all the hard work and passion you guys apply to your videos - I'd donate if I could but right now I can't. And nuts to those who get annoyed when you get excited. I mentioned previously you're like the Murray Walker of DCS, and I stand by that. Hats off to you, sir.
Like you, I would expect the Americans to get involved 100%. Also, with the tracking of these past Finland and Norway, the alerts would have been raised much earlier so better prepared with refuelling too. Lastly, if they ever dropped their missiles, they would never have got back to Russia, taken out by NATO for sure. I think it's likely they would have a carrier group somewhere far North East to provide fighter support, who knows. Can you expand on the TH-cam issue, I pay monthly so I'll not be happy if they're not passing on my money!
1 nm equates 1 minute of arc on the earths surface (albeit factor in earth compression 1/300 ie slightly compressed at the poles as opposed to the equator) From AP3456 Navigation doc: nautical mile is defined as the length of the arc of a great circle which subtends an angle of one minute at the centre of the Earth. Thus the number of nautical miles in the arc of any great circle equals the number of minutes subtended by that arc at the centre of the Earth. Statute miles originally came from the romans milla passum (thousand paces)
I see no reason an Asraam could not shoot down a cruise missile. Modern missiles are very different to the original "heat seeking" missiles like the first sidewinder. Remember the US shot down a balloon with an AIM 9X and thats the coldest and smallest of cold small targets. I also doubt there would be wastage of missiles when the pilots have a long time to engage targets. They would just take turns to be shooter so they don't need to deconflict their targets. However I also doubt that the RAF could put up that many fighters in one go because availablity rates are always a problem in air forces so it maybe works out that some of the limitations of DCS stand in for limitations in real life.
Great simulated content, well made! Watching on iPhone ads are showing - not clicking skip 🎉 maybe we should just use code from now on. It’s red vs blue. A missile is now a ‘mango’. ‘attack’ is now ‘engage’ and so on. 🙏
I know from a german military analyst that as soon as he shows any video with an explosion on YT, even just for 1 sec, YT's AI seems to strike consistently since a few weeks. We can only hope YT will moderate its policy.
This is true. It is also true for the recent crash of the DHL plane in Vilnius. You can find the footage, but all videos containing it are demonitized. I wonder why YT is doing this. I do not appreciate it at all.
@juliusfucik4011 Might be related to current EU policy, which obligates YT etc. to delete illegal content like promoting violence, war crimes etc. - Problem is, how do you filter out the "bad stuff"? Any algorithm will strike innocent content creators. This was likely to happen, sadly.
That is not how it works in practice. Creators applying the value for value model typically get 1-3% of people to donate and the donation amounts can vary from a weekly low amount to a monthly amount of multiple thousands. The implementation is fairly striaghtforward, but does involve slight changes to the format. People like getting titles or trophies for total amounts donated. Some people will contribute value through time or skills for instance by running infrastructure to support an online community, et cetera.
@@FleetDefenderRA5 the CIA would probably know about it at least a few days in advance and as for radar coverage, Finland, Norway, or Sweden would probably notice them the second they took off.
I suppose the biggest question would be if Russia has ever flown 20 bombers around Finland/Sweden/Norway? If this was “highly unusual” then I’d work on the following; 1) the UK would have a lot more QRF standard jets ready and in the air, being tanked by….. 2) the US, who as fellow NATO members would surely lend us resource of both AWACS and Tankers, plus a coincidental exercise of their UK based fast jets in, say, the North Sea area. 3) if the other NATO states recognised this as “highly unusual and aggressive behaviour”, then they would already have escorts shadowing the bombers, and might well scramble more from Western Europe. All of this leads to… 4) we would most likely have a much longer reach to intercept, given that airframes would be in the air and being tanked. That being said, great work as ever Cap 👍🏻
I've not started watching the battle yet, just watching the scenario details and my prediction is we're going to get absolutely smashed. Fingers crossed I'll be shocked... 😬
Would be interesting to see this sim with several more Russian bombers placed to simulate sub-launched weapons being deployed. Firing in saturation might overwhelm the fighter screen.
Very enjoyable sim. I see nothing wrong with a sim battle and narration being done. So tired of everyone being offended by everything. Keep up the great work Cap. And on a side note, we had three baby girls and yes it does change your life.. And as you stated, wouldn't change it for anything.
It seems to me, an American, that Mark Felton is worried the new president is NOT going to be helping to defend the UK. It may be time to ensure the UK has its own defense in hand,
That like 1 to 2 months of Rus missiles used in Ukraine in 1 attack, I think that U.K.could defend the Typhoons still had Gun Ammo and asram / 9x to mop up the left over northern flight & that's not assuming RAF Lakenheath which looks to be in the flightpath would not assist. the bombers have no chance of returning as Finish , Swedish and Norwegian fighters could shoot them down.
Sooo, basically three Oreshniks fired prior to the attack would theoretically be enough to ground absolute majority of both British and US planes, assuming each can make 36 craters into airfield's airstrip(s)? :)
so, this a thing a lot of analysts do. but if you pick almost all members all NATO to fight ALONE, they'll be in trouble. that's because its not how they made their forces. their forces were constructes to fight with NATO. so some will have more naval, some will have more air assets, some will have more ground assets. the strenght of NATO is in its union. Also don't worry about the share of information, NATO members all use the same protocols (which is on the brink of being updated) and all those exercises are to get people on par with just that. Even in joint exercises with non-NATO members where no one shares the same protocol, IT has come such a long way that it's no so hard to do in tasks like those. I'll give you as an example CRUZEX we just had here in Brazil, were the AWACS was operated by the brazilian air force, directing planes from the US (some state national guard f-15C i cant remember which one), a tanker from colombia, and other planes from all over south america (fighters, trainers etc), including our gripens and old azzes f-5s. Even the C390. Literally no one shares a protocol. and it was just fine, the simulations were pretty ok as far as i'm aware. the Meteors and the Gripen raven radars were given some high praises i've heard. theres a plane the US uses especifically for converting and sharing info throughout different systems and different allies (i forgot the name), but it's not deployed in europe usually bc it's not needed (everyone uses link 16 anyway) PS: wishing good health on your family mate
If I took your Grim Reapers as a pattern for a DCS channel, mine would be the "Gunfighters" named after the 366th Fighter Wing from Mountain Home AFB. 😂
Cap -Britain does have a load of Stormer HVM's and Starstreak was offered in a CIWS mount by Thales, I am confident that Ukraine has used them to down Cruise missiles
instead of patriot i think we should just integrate camm mr into our t26+t31 (dual packed in mk 41 vls ) and in our sky saber battery's. should have a range of about 60 miles when it is available
Pretty much think that's the plan for ceptor/sabre. Also there's a long range version being developed with the Poles, again both for sabre and ceptor. Just need to order more type 31s and and a good dozen or two or the giraffe radar and control unit. Then just mix up the tels at each launch site.
Miles vs miles. Land miles are from Elizabeth 1st who set 1 mile as 8 furlongs (a furlong being about 660 feet).Hence, 5280 feet. A nautical mile is based on Earths Lat/Long coordinate system and is based on 1 minute of latitude...so aprox 6000 feet.
TU-160 is cool until you realize they tried to copy b-1 and didn't quite manage doing it properly. So it's significantly larger, max payload is lower, and the only thing going for it is that it's faster. Also, you didn't have to shoot down the last two missiles, they were clearly going to defect.
Hello cap- there’s currently a sea power mod that adds more modern warships for the US faction. Stealth17 has done a video on it. The mod isn’t done, I believe it’s called “Sea Power NTU”
Sizewell could easily be able to defend against any cruise missile. Modern PWR's containment buildings are able to withstand aircraft impacts, bombs and missiles. Hydro and gas plants are a much better target
HMNB Clyde also includes the Culport nuclear weapons storage facility, and the Glen Douglas/Glen Mallon conventional munitions facility. Basically all of our nuclear ammo, and a large proportion of our conventional munitions..... just round the corner from Faslane with the actual subs. I know for a fact its a primary target....
Gutted you didn't put Northern Ireland in, there's a whole fleet of Ryanair planes ready to intercept threats for low low prices! Love your stuff Cap, keep going!
Demonetized!
LOL! Thank you, I needed that. 🤣
I have a feeling that they would first require an MOD official with a sack of money onboard to pay for all the extras. Ya know.....
"Why yes sir that was a flight of Tu95s that just passed us. £10 please"
Unfortunately, as the missiles hadn't pre-booked their destruction three months in advance...
Can’t wait to hear about that in Irish history for the next 400 years in various states of exaggeration
Cap, I don't know who doesn't want you to continue these vids. But, I need this Thanks!
NATO has its own E-3 component operating from bases in Norway, Germany, Italy, Greece and Turkey. It's an integral part of NATO's air defences and the British have access to it. In other words, no need to hope for the Americans in that scenario. Britain already has AWACS access all the time.
It's simply ridiculous that TH-cam has taken this stance against your channel.
His channel isn't sufficiently leftist, so of course TH-cam would want to de-platform him.
I think it's the vs china vids that caused the prob....the ccp deploy 1000's of people to flag vids that make them look bad....even in video games.....Cap keeps showing china 'not winning overwhelmingly' so that's bad.
Mine too. I was Thomas, the MRA on jubilee's mens rights vs feminist jubilee episode released recently. I'm now down to less than 100 views per video, despite my subscribers going up. TH-cam obviously messes with views
Tbh I'm not surprised. Cap has said some questionable things in videos he has now taken down. He has made slurs regarding Asians Muslims and blacks this was bound to happen. I don't care what another man says but I refuse to paint cap as a victim.
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I'm a relative new subscriber to this channel. What did Cap say or insinuate? Can you tell?
Saw Mark Felton's vid and thought about the scenario sim'd by Grim Reapers. Thanks Cap!
Cap here is the simple answer that explains a nautical mile: "one nautical mile is equivalent to one minute of latitude on the Earth's surface"
Where as the imperial mile is just arbitrary :)
Beat me to it lol. Makes traveling on the ocean or by air a little easier to calculate distance traveled in degrees
Honest question, since the minutes will get smaller at the poles. does the length vary where you are on the globe?
Phahah, good one
So, I have to travel from South africa to Spain. How using miles would help me?
I love how RAF Conningsby is a tropical paradise.
USAF E-3s should be able to talk to the Typhoons and Lightning IIs via Link 16 data link. I know this is supposed to be a UK alone battle, but I believe you know the aircraft at RAF Lakenheath would be scrambled and gladly support the RAF and RN.
To be honest, I think some of those 64 Eurofighters should have been American fighters. I don't think the UK is going to have more than, say, 40 Eurofighters at most, but we can just pretend that 30 or so were US F-15s or F-35s.
Also, there are a few Patriots in the UK as well.
@@totalNERD-eo7wxtheoretically yes. But Lake heath is a training and Repair base recycling aircraft from exercises in Europe and Operations in the Middle East.
If you say there’s 72 aircraft at lakenheath. 30% of those will be stripped for parts awaiting refit.
30% will be being repaired.
30% will be used for training or operational.
Very few would be available in the event of even 1 hours warning that the attack was happening. They’d have to call in crews not on alert in peacetime which is usually at least an hours notice to move.
They’d have to strip off the dummy weapons. Sign out live munitions. Load them onto aircraft. Get them in the air and vectored up to 300 miles away.
Of the 72 aircraft maybe 20 would be in the air with various states of readiness within an 2 hours.
Same thing happens in the U.S. when there’s unidentified aircraft. The hardest part is getting fjurisdiction/ permission to launch With live weapons on a combat mission on home or another country’s soil.
Famous case being that M60 Tank that was stolen from a guards base less than 30 miles from an Apache airstrip. And the apaches couldn’t even get clearance to load live ammunition by the time the tank had run out of fuel after 2 hours.
Patriots on the other hand yes. They are actually the most capable air defence in the whole of the UK. There’s nothing else that’s on constant standby. The U.S. quite rightly don’t trust Britains non existent air defence . Because even the type 45 destroyers only put to sea with 12 missiles sometimes and the rapier Systems that can de deployed can only intercept slow moving aircraft and the stormer HVM’s we had are all gone to Ukraine at this point
Thanks Cap, keep it up please, if possible!
But I think you are missing the point that UK and allied intel would detect the bombers warming up at Olenya, and then the Nordic allies with their own AWACS and at least 170 Gen 4.5-5 fighters would help track and intercept the bombers and missiles.
I believe Mr. Felton took a very unfortunate step into where he is clearly not knowledgeable posting the video you are referring to.
I haven't actually watched the video yet. But the one superpower that Europe has in the 21st century is ... drumroll ... teamwork! Can any single country in Europe defend itself against a determined attack by a power like Russia? No. But all of (western) Europe together can do it!
So, this might be an interesting thought experiment, but you (well, Mr. Felton in particular) should be careful not to start fearmongering. In reality the UK wouldn't be alone in this kind of situation.
Sorry but I have to play devil's advocate here. Yes, the NATO forces would detect the bombers taking off and flying well before they got within range of the UK. BUT!!!! The current NATO is a pathetic shell of it's cold war version and would at best put up a couple pair of very lightly armed fighters to non-intrusively (from a long distance) monitor the Russian bombers who stated prior to take off that they were on a training mission around the Norwegian and North Seas. By the time the bombers turn into the UK on afterburner and fire missiles it would be too late.
The UK is far too weak to deal with a
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HMNB Devonport is in Plymouth Cap it’s 172 miles from Portsmouth, cheers Cap.
FFS! Double and tripled checked that, how the hell did I get that wrong. Sorry. A thing happened apparently.
All NATO aircraft can communicate. This has been proven in coalition work. So AWACS would be in full effect. And they can also communicate with the EWS making a huge network of early warning. The Scandinavian states would forewarn us of such a flight heading out way and offer support
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Why nautical miles you ask: I watched a video on this just yesterday. Nautical miles are based on the latitude/longitude system. Each of the big fat gridlines on the earth map is a degree of longitude/latitude (yes degrees in the sense that there are 360 of them around the planet). Each degree is subdivided into minutes and seconds for coordinate purposes. A nautical mile is exactly one minute of arc in the coordinate system. Just happens to work out at ~1.15 land miles (land miles being derived from an entirely different set of arbitrary assumptions). Whilst we're on the subject, the nautical unit of speed, the knot, is defined as one minute of arc per hour, or one nautical mile per hour.
Thank you Cap!
In addition to all of the points you raised, I would say there's a high degree of certainty that the US/NATO satellite and intelligence services would have ample warning of such Russian preparatory movements, allowing for the required defensive measures to be taken for such a large attack.
For example, there was that US report leaked from the Pentagon regarding the analysis of Israel as they were preparing for their retaliatory strikes against Iran, which included the weapons and aircraft they were assembling several days prior to launch.
There's also the US forces based in the UK (as you noted), which I believe would be virtually certain to assist during the response per NATO Article 4, as any attack on the UK would essentially be an attack on the US jets based there.
Unless there was a total breakdown in intelligence, there should be time for air, ground (additional SAM systems), and naval (movement of additional guided missile frigates and destroyers from NATO allies, including from the Nordic countries) to move into better positions prior to such an attack.
Finally, per the tragic war occurring, coming up on three years now, we have not seen such a large-scale precision attack from Russia, which has been similar to this. Even when you include their ground-launched assets, smaller fighter/attack aircraft, and drone launches, they have simply never dedicated this massive amount of ordinance to any one single attack.
Per their performance in the war, I believe this is due to inadequate logistics, a smaller ratio of "flight-ready" aircraft ultimately working and maintained to all launch at the same time, and a shortage of stockpiled precision munitions to dedicate to any one single attack effort.
Cheers, Cap, and thank you as always!
One thing i wonder is; would norway or finland be able to possibly detect the bombers on their way to release their payload? if so then early preparations could be made
Thank the Lord Sweden is neutral and they have to go around.............oh.............wait a mo...........
Yes, I believe the bombers would be detected by Norway. The Globus radar site at Vardo, Norway is positioned on an island within 30NM of the northern Russian border - right along the path of this theoretical airstrike.The company line is that Globus is for tracking space objects. However, in 2000, there was a storm that damaged the Globus II radome, uncovering the dish. Suddenly, you could see that the dish was pointed right at Moscow, not at you know, space. My bet is that NATO would know and therefore Britain would know of any strike package over the Barents Sea and would scramble interceptors as soon as any such force started vectoring towards the UK.
Yes. Typically Russian bombers are shadowed by Norwegian fighters then handed over to the RAF as they approach the airspace the UK is responsible for.
A nautical mile is 1/5400 the distance from the equator to the poles, or 1/60 of a degree of latitude (with very small errors introduced by by the Earth not being a perfect sphere). Very useful when your method of navigation is based on measuring the positions of stars.
A statute mile (or land mile), is 80 chains. A chain is twenty-two yards, and was literally the length of a standard surveyor's chain used to measure land. Arbitrary, but an arbitrary standard still works, which means you and your neighbor can agree who owns which bit of land.
What everyone seems to have bypassed is that it's not only the U.K's EWR that comes into play, we are also linked to all Ally warning systems too, as soon as a threat is detected by an ally system, the U.K is notified on vector and altitude of threat.
Hi Cap. Great vid mate. Please keep them coming.
Observations:
1. I was based at Brize Norton in 2008. There was 1 x VC10 Tanker kept on QRA Standby there then for QRA Fighter refueling support.
I would assume that 1 x Voyager undertakes that dury now.
With several hours notice a few more Voyager's would probably be made available for Typhoon Force support.
2. The RAF's and FAA's Force of currently 24 to 36'ish (guestimate) F35B's are based at RAF Marham.
Again with several hours notice a good proportion of these could be made available to assist if they are not away on other duties ..... eg on the Carrier
3. I would assume NATO intra-operabilty would mean data links work across the board between Nations.
4. I would guess all major Russian bases are monitored by satellite. Any unusual activity ...... 20 bombers being fueled and armed ...... would mean extra monitoring by NATO as a whole. We'd know when a force this size took off.
5. As you mentioned, there's the USAF assets at Lakenheath and Mildenhall as well 👍
I have another fun scenario for you, following on from the Airwolf one: steal the Firefox!
I think they actually did Firefox a while back as a multiplayer thing. it was pretty sexy if I remember correctly.
Surely Russia would coordinate its attack with at least two of its very large ballistic missile submarines which could theoretically surface anywhere!
As CAP says not able to some that in DCS
Yup possibly.
Possible but there are listening stations to track subs, so how close can they realistically get? I don't know, but someone does, and it's probable that Russia knows exactly how close they can get before being detected... but with other NATO countries also patrolling this would not be a slam dunk for VP, the mad king of Russia
If Russia were to surely coordinate their attack with very large ballistic missile submarines, I very much assure you there would be NATO attack submarines working to shadow and counter them. NATO is a truly scary defensive alliance if called upon. I've read stories from USN attack submarine crews who literally just say outside Russian territorial waters near their sub bases and tracked movements. I doubt they stopped doing so today, particularly with Russia invading Ukraine.
Cool simulation. Thanks for continuing to make these!
Absolute not an expert, but since the US and GB are both NATO members, I would have assumed the AWACS data-link could be shared more or less instantly.
Yeah, everything should be link 16.
26:28 a statute mile is related to some standardization attempts to make commonly sized parcels and survey equipment fit nicely in maps. NM are a minute of latitude so if you're looking at a map 60 NM are one degree
Yes and this also helps with navigation at sea using headings and time to give relative distance and position.
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I got the impression that Mark Felton was anti-war in his political stance after watching that video. This pleasantly surprised me as I would have expected him to be extremely hawkish.
As a father of a small child I can appreciate your situation, you are doing a fantastic job.
Hats off for the sim - quite the effort went into this. This goes to show the relevance of intercept fighters of NATO because once Evenes in Norway scrambles their F35's and they see the Badgers with the weapons underwing you would have to expect they would go weapons hot the second one took a shot and that whole air wing would go boom. Then all bets would be off as that red button gets closer to being pushed unfortuantely...what a mess... All that said it is crazy that the UK doesn't have a single AWACS. Didn't know that and shows you can learn something every day on your channel. Not comforting but well done Cap and stay well.
Think we have wedgetails on order, looooong history of procurement mismanagement and trying to use our own tech to provide what our allies have already produced 😳 but just in case we ever go to war with America, let’s not buy E2s or E3s.
Pretty sure the RAF are getting the E7 Wedgetail that’s in service here in Aus with the RAAF. So hopefully that deficiency will be rectified in the future
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Nice one Cap this was great fun, please help getting rid of these bots everybody thanks.
Cap and crew, suggestion? Ask the guys that run Pepperbox to host your longer videos? I don't know the first thing about hosting YT vids or anything else actually (just a consumer), but it seems like those guys all ran into the same problem and started their own thing. Might be worth a look? Can't fly on an empty belly.😅
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Sorry, edited for typos. Glove typing in -10°c
Good evening Cap! That EWR you positioned in the far North of Scotland is in the county of Caithness (not any part of the Outer Hebrides, which are an island chain off the west coast of Scotland). For some reason I thought you'd put an oil rig there to represent the Dounreay nuclear power plant, and I *was* going to write and say that Dounreay has been offline for quite a while now, and is being decommissioned (it operated as a power station from 1955 to 1994, when decommissioning began), until I noticed the "EWR" tag on the map, right before the Russians deleted it...
The Royal Navy and Rolls Royce also operated two test reactor plants at the Dounreay site to simulate nuclear power plants for the submarine fleet (the site was known as HMS Vulcan) - that site operated from 1965 to 2015.
I know there was an American naval station just to the west of Thurso; it was a US Navy Communications Station - it was open between 1962 and 1992. Between UKAEA Dounreay and the US Navy Communications Station, that was Thurso's two main sources of employment for a few decades. Now all they have there really is a call centre for BT, and a factory producing lithium-ion batteries under MoD contract.
Hope TH-cam stops demonitizing your stuff, what a damn shame with all the hard work and passion you guys apply to your videos - I'd donate if I could but right now I can't. And nuts to those who get annoyed when you get excited. I mentioned previously you're like the Murray Walker of DCS, and I stand by that. Hats off to you, sir.
Like you, I would expect the Americans to get involved 100%.
Also, with the tracking of these past Finland and Norway, the alerts would have been raised much earlier so better prepared with refuelling too. Lastly, if they ever dropped their missiles, they would never have got back to Russia, taken out by NATO for sure.
I think it's likely they would have a carrier group somewhere far North East to provide fighter support, who knows.
Can you expand on the TH-cam issue, I pay monthly so I'll not be happy if they're not passing on my money!
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1 nm equates 1 minute of arc on the earths surface (albeit factor in earth compression 1/300 ie slightly compressed at the poles as opposed to the equator)
From AP3456 Navigation doc: nautical mile is defined as the length of the arc of a great circle which subtends an angle of one minute at the centre of the Earth. Thus the number of nautical miles in the arc of any great circle equals the number of minutes subtended by that arc at the centre of the Earth.
Statute miles originally came from the romans milla passum (thousand paces)
Yay I understand now thanks!
@@grimreapers cap can we meet up at Duxford for example and have a full geek off and moan about the state of our country as I love a moan.
AWACS on, AWACS off.
Now show me paint-the-fence.
39:35 All day and all night 🙂 World's most underestimated job.
@27:38 The Eurofighters are low in order to radar scan the missiles better?
I would have guessed that every base had at least 2 interceptors ready to go.
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The short answer? No.
The long answer? Noooooooooooo!
Thanks for your work!
Well done Cap.
With couple hours notice, German typhoons from Wittmund would be there on time. F16 or f35 from Netherlands, too
I see no reason an Asraam could not shoot down a cruise missile. Modern missiles are very different to the original "heat seeking" missiles like the first sidewinder. Remember the US shot down a balloon with an AIM 9X and thats the coldest and smallest of cold small targets.
I also doubt there would be wastage of missiles when the pilots have a long time to engage targets. They would just take turns to be shooter so they don't need to deconflict their targets.
However I also doubt that the RAF could put up that many fighters in one go because availablity rates are always a problem in air forces so it maybe works out that some of the limitations of DCS stand in for limitations in real life.
25:10 Dogger Island, whats left of doggerland RIP ATLANTIS
Great simulated content, well made! Watching on iPhone ads are showing - not clicking skip 🎉 maybe we should just use code from now on. It’s red vs blue. A missile is now a ‘mango’. ‘attack’ is now ‘engage’ and so on. 🙏
Joined the Patreon ranks, I encourage everyone watching to join to keep Cap making content!
I know from a german military analyst that as soon as he shows any video with an explosion on YT, even just for 1 sec, YT's AI seems to strike consistently since a few weeks. We can only hope YT will moderate its policy.
This is true. It is also true for the recent crash of the DHL plane in Vilnius. You can find the footage, but all videos containing it are demonitized.
I wonder why YT is doing this. I do not appreciate it at all.
@juliusfucik4011 Might be related to current EU policy, which obligates YT etc. to delete illegal content like promoting violence, war crimes etc. - Problem is, how do you filter out the "bad stuff"? Any algorithm will strike innocent content creators. This was likely to happen, sadly.
33:20 they actually flew beside the V1 bombs and tipped them with the wings of the fighter. It was actually safer than shooting them with the cannon.
if 1% of the subs gave $1 a month, that would be $4k a month.
Yes please...
That is not how it works in practice. Creators applying the value for value model typically get 1-3% of people to donate and the donation amounts can vary from a weekly low amount to a monthly amount of multiple thousands.
The implementation is fairly striaghtforward, but does involve slight changes to the format. People like getting titles or trophies for total amounts donated. Some people will contribute value through time or skills for instance by running infrastructure to support an online community, et cetera.
At least we can comment on this, and a fantastic job you did as always: Mark Felton turned all comments for his video on this subject off.
You are doing the lords work and making the world a happy and better place. Please, youtube, dont destroy the Grim Reapers.
There is simply no way 32 Eurofighters could be launched in time.
I simply wonder what the radar coverage is and when the the raid would be first detected.
@@FleetDefenderRA5 the CIA would probably know about it at least a few days in advance and as for radar coverage, Finland, Norway, or Sweden would probably notice them the second they took off.
I suppose the biggest question would be if Russia has ever flown 20 bombers around Finland/Sweden/Norway? If this was “highly unusual” then I’d work on the following;
1) the UK would have a lot more QRF standard jets ready and in the air, being tanked by…..
2) the US, who as fellow NATO members would surely lend us resource of both AWACS and Tankers, plus a coincidental exercise of their UK based fast jets in, say, the North Sea area.
3) if the other NATO states recognised this as “highly unusual and aggressive behaviour”, then they would already have escorts shadowing the bombers, and might well scramble more from Western Europe. All of this leads to…
4) we would most likely have a much longer reach to intercept, given that airframes would be in the air and being tanked.
That being said, great work as ever Cap 👍🏻
Plus, the US would get all airframes in the air, and any SAM capacity switched on, in case they were the targets.
29:40 Yes. Really, yes. (It was extremely impressive.)
I've not started watching the battle yet, just watching the scenario details and my prediction is we're going to get absolutely smashed. Fingers crossed I'll be shocked... 😬
😁 pleasantly surprised
Great sim. Patreon signed up. Hope you manage to keep going.
Maybe add some ballistic missiles by Russia. It would be interesting to see.
Oh, that’s was a surprise, nice sim CAP!
I'm as surprised as you on this one...
Hope a like and a comment help. Keep up the good work.
The RAF needs more fighters and attack air craft. Who in the hell decided to cut the RAF down to size?
I love the sims, but I suggest doing a TH-cam channel membership as well!
Keep up the good work Cap! TH-cam need to get a grip.
Putting Devonport in Portsmouth is absolutely criminal as a janner
They've been planting a lot of palm trees at Coningsby lately
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Would be interesting to see this sim with several more Russian bombers placed to simulate sub-launched weapons being deployed. Firing in saturation might overwhelm the fighter screen.
Thanks!
Very enjoyable sim. I see nothing wrong with a sim battle and narration being done. So tired of everyone being offended by everything. Keep up the great work Cap. And on a side note, we had three baby girls and yes it does change your life.. And as you stated, wouldn't change it for anything.
It seems to me, an American, that Mark Felton is worried the new president is NOT going to be helping to defend the UK. It may be time to ensure the UK has its own defense in hand,
The latest version of Rapier (FSC) might actually have had some use, although as I understand it they've all been retired.
That like 1 to 2 months of Rus missiles used in Ukraine in 1 attack, I think that U.K.could defend the Typhoons still had Gun Ammo and asram / 9x to mop up the left over northern flight & that's not assuming RAF Lakenheath which looks to be in the flightpath would not assist.
the bombers have no chance of returning as Finish , Swedish and Norwegian fighters could shoot them down.
Sooo, basically three Oreshniks fired prior to the attack would theoretically be enough to ground absolute majority of both British and US planes, assuming each can make 36 craters into airfield's airstrip(s)? :)
so, this a thing a lot of analysts do. but if you pick almost all members all NATO to fight ALONE, they'll be in trouble. that's because its not how they made their forces. their forces were constructes to fight with NATO. so some will have more naval, some will have more air assets, some will have more ground assets. the strenght of NATO is in its union.
Also don't worry about the share of information, NATO members all use the same protocols (which is on the brink of being updated) and all those exercises are to get people on par with just that.
Even in joint exercises with non-NATO members where no one shares the same protocol, IT has come such a long way that it's no so hard to do in tasks like those.
I'll give you as an example CRUZEX we just had here in Brazil, were the AWACS was operated by the brazilian air force, directing planes from the US (some state national guard f-15C i cant remember which one), a tanker from colombia, and other planes from all over south america (fighters, trainers etc), including our gripens and old azzes f-5s. Even the C390.
Literally no one shares a protocol. and it was just fine, the simulations were pretty ok as far as i'm aware.
the Meteors and the Gripen raven radars were given some high praises i've heard.
theres a plane the US uses especifically for converting and sharing info throughout different systems and different allies (i forgot the name), but it's not deployed in europe usually bc it's not needed (everyone uses link 16 anyway)
PS: wishing good health on your family mate
I suspect Russia would go for the 4 amazon data centres as targets. The loss of those would properly cripple the UK.
I am currently not working at the moment CAP but I will double my efforts so I may enjoy in these videos.
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Great video as always man, Hopefully TH-cam stops the bullshit it's pulling on your channel
If I took your Grim Reapers as a pattern for a DCS channel, mine would be the "Gunfighters" named after the 366th Fighter Wing from Mountain Home AFB. 😂
Smoke trailed missles are bestest missles! And yes, "bloody cool" !!
Cap -Britain does have a load of Stormer HVM's and Starstreak was offered in a CIWS mount by Thales, I am confident that Ukraine has used them to down Cruise missiles
First time in my life I went to a patreon site to consider. Perhaps go live? I see donations at some streams.
I don't think GR works very well live TBH. It's 99% me sitting in mission editor trying to get rid of bugs. Not good viewing.
@@grimreapers enjoy the (very small) donation. (Not fishing for a reply)
instead of patriot i think we should just integrate camm mr into our t26+t31 (dual packed in mk 41 vls ) and in our sky saber battery's. should have a range of about 60 miles when it is available
Pretty much think that's the plan for ceptor/sabre. Also there's a long range version being developed with the Poles, again both for sabre and ceptor. Just need to order more type 31s and and a good dozen or two or the giraffe radar and control unit. Then just mix up the tels at each launch site.
Now do a Sea Power version! :D
Also with a hours alert I feel like you'd absolutely get f35s in the air if it was a worst case...
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Nice sim, thanks for doing these!
I would recommend getting on X as well. TH-cam loves censorship, X does not.
I've got you on Patreon, Cap. But, I'll tick it up a bit for you. Thank you for the wealth of material you've put up... and all the work!
I would think if pilots are trained to use guns to hit manurable aircraft, they would have a relatively good chance at hitting these missiles.
Miles vs miles. Land miles are from Elizabeth 1st who set 1 mile as 8 furlongs (a furlong being about 660 feet).Hence, 5280 feet.
A nautical mile is based on Earths Lat/Long coordinate system and is based on 1 minute of latitude...so aprox 6000 feet.
Worst thing is that almost every country in the world want that happen, except the rest of Europe?
40:48 I'm so impressed you've kept making vids cap. I got my babies and haven't been able to play at all
TU-160 is cool until you realize they tried to copy b-1 and didn't quite manage doing it properly. So it's significantly larger, max payload is lower, and the only thing going for it is that it's faster.
Also, you didn't have to shoot down the last two missiles, they were clearly going to defect.
The nautical mile is based on the Earth's longitude and latitude coordinates, with one nautical mile equaling one minute of latitude.
I would recommend (if you haven't already) reaching out to TH-cam (via your own contacts or X) and seeing what can be done.
Hello cap- there’s currently a sea power mod that adds more modern warships for the US faction. Stealth17 has done a video on it. The mod isn’t done, I believe it’s called “Sea Power NTU”
Sizewell could easily be able to defend against any cruise missile. Modern PWR's containment buildings are able to withstand aircraft impacts, bombs and missiles. Hydro and gas plants are a much better target
We love you Grim Reapers, great TH-cam channel. Chin up Cap.
HMNB Clyde also includes the Culport nuclear weapons storage facility, and the Glen Douglas/Glen Mallon conventional munitions facility. Basically all of our nuclear ammo, and a large proportion of our conventional munitions..... just round the corner from Faslane with the actual subs. I know for a fact its a primary target....
if they are modding s300's into cruise missiles i dont think we got much to worry about