I'm a random guy with little or no connection to any of this, who's never even been to the midwest, and I found this to be such an incredible document and tribute to a time and place and to all the artists and venues and other participants involved. Thank you for posting and for all involved in the making of this - filmmaker, artists, etc. I hope you're all doing well.
hey, this is shane cheek from the legendary east coast DIY show house Crayola House (89-92 corn rocket house, 94-2024 Crayola). what you are doing is awesome. keep pushing music boundaries and garner a sense of community thru keeping DIY alive. turn the desolate into positivity. we sadly are losing the oldest DIY venue on the east coast due to realty company negligence and shady business practices. they illegally tried to get us to pay for their own loss, we won in court, they out of spite wouldn’t let us renew. now the house has one more show this saturday June 29th with Aggrocrag and others. after that it’s a frat house. keep DIY alive
dude Skin Graft is so amazing. also loved Arsonist's Prayer performance... didn't know until i first saw this that Roman had more projects beyond Plague Mother and Slit Throats. That performance must have been very cathartic for Roman to get that negative energy out.
Very curious if Arsonist's Prayer is still around? and if they are still running their label? Trying to find their music online and can't seem to find any of it... I know the majority of the labels in this documentary gave priority to physical releases, but I am curious if any of the bands actually made the jump to digital downloads or streaming..? Love the documentary by the way!
Fun Fact: Comedian Drew Carey hosted the popular "Drew Carey Show" sitcom, set in Cleveland. The show followed Carey's life, re-imagined as though he hadn't gone into acting.
PLEASE someone, I REALLY NEED TO KNOW… I got a question. If these musicians hate Cleveland and the industrial darkness in which they live in, then why they keep reaffirming their decaying environment? Why replicate, clone, reterritorialize or reflect again and again what they hate? Aren’t they just adding more noise and grit to the noise and grit they hate so much?
I can't speak for these people themselves, but for a lot of artists making art that expresses the qualities of their life is cathartic. If your life is brutal, harsh, and dehumanizing, it might feel really good to create a concrete piece of art that expresses that feeling clearly in a way other people can experience. There's a lot of research that actually shows that metalheads get a lot of psychological benefits from listening to bleak, brutal music, in part because it gives them space to process negative emotions. I'd bet noise has the exact same benefits
Some people need to process their pain and environment they grew up around. "Aren’t they just adding more noise and grit to the noise and grit they hate so much?" * This they have control over * This isn't forced on them * This can be appreciated en masse * This creates and brings community of similar outcasts/maladjusts together * It's not "reaffirming", it's acknowledgment * Reflecting is not resonating in negative ways, this form of art and expression doesn't create the socioeconomic conditions forced on residents time and again * Sometimes one needs a primal scream I'm more industrial than PE (and didn't grow up in Cleveland), but I feel I understand aspects of why people are drawn to it, how environment shapes interest and scenes, and why "dark" music isn't itself necessarily toxic. As this is a TH-cam comment, I'm not going to have space and context to elaborate how neofash embed themselves in any counter-cultural scene so this post refers to the idealized form of why a person can choose to not be outwardly bright and cheerful but still find meaning in the context of their lives and associates and creating something more than themselves.
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I'm a random guy with little or no connection to any of this, who's never even been to the midwest, and I found this to be such an incredible document and tribute to a time and place and to all the artists and venues and other participants involved. Thank you for posting and for all involved in the making of this - filmmaker, artists, etc. I hope you're all doing well.
hey, this is shane cheek from the legendary east coast DIY show house Crayola House (89-92 corn rocket house, 94-2024 Crayola). what you are doing is awesome. keep pushing music boundaries and garner a sense of community thru keeping DIY alive. turn the desolate into positivity. we sadly are losing the oldest DIY venue on the east coast due to realty company negligence and shady business practices. they illegally tried to get us to pay for their own loss, we won in court, they out of spite wouldn’t let us renew. now the house has one more show this saturday June 29th with Aggrocrag and others. after that it’s a frat house. keep DIY alive
dude Skin Graft is so amazing. also loved Arsonist's Prayer performance... didn't know until i first saw this that Roman had more projects beyond Plague Mother and Slit Throats. That performance must have been very cathartic for Roman to get that negative energy out.
i love how they mention the germs on here!
Beautiful.
thxxx for this!!
great stuff
GREAT STUFF😀
thank you so much!
good stuff
Skin Graft are my favorite Cleveland band ever
that was obscure
Very curious if Arsonist's Prayer is still around? and if they are still running their label? Trying to find their music online and can't seem to find any of it... I know the majority of the labels in this documentary gave priority to physical releases, but I am curious if any of the bands actually made the jump to digital downloads or streaming..? Love the documentary by the way!
Wait, with going through the comments I found a couple of their projects... still would love to know if they are running their label anymore...
Very cool doc, thanks for sharing.
Whose the artist around 1:03:30? Love the visceral screams mixed in with the noise
Nyodene D: nyodened.bandcamp.com
@@bonsgats Awesome, thanks!
Only looking for a sound effect, I will be back to watch your documentary in a bit.
LMMFAO me too
I would like to hear more from the guy in the video, Michael James. Does anyone know where/how I can find his work?
8:45 is that a Ems Aks I hear
Fun Fact: Comedian Drew Carey hosted the popular "Drew Carey Show" sitcom, set in Cleveland. The show followed Carey's life, re-imagined as though he hadn't gone into acting.
When was this filmed?
What is in Dilloways moth??
Contact mic of some order.
PLEASE someone, I REALLY NEED TO KNOW… I got a question. If these musicians hate Cleveland and the industrial darkness in which they live in, then why they keep reaffirming their decaying environment? Why replicate, clone, reterritorialize or reflect again and again what they hate? Aren’t they just adding more noise and grit to the noise and grit they hate so much?
I can't speak for these people themselves, but for a lot of artists making art that expresses the qualities of their life is cathartic. If your life is brutal, harsh, and dehumanizing, it might feel really good to create a concrete piece of art that expresses that feeling clearly in a way other people can experience. There's a lot of research that actually shows that metalheads get a lot of psychological benefits from listening to bleak, brutal music, in part because it gives them space to process negative emotions. I'd bet noise has the exact same benefits
Some people need to process their pain and environment they grew up around.
"Aren’t they just adding more noise and grit to the noise and grit they hate so much?"
* This they have control over
* This isn't forced on them
* This can be appreciated en masse
* This creates and brings community of similar outcasts/maladjusts together
* It's not "reaffirming", it's acknowledgment
* Reflecting is not resonating in negative ways, this form of art and expression doesn't create the socioeconomic conditions forced on residents time and again
* Sometimes one needs a primal scream
I'm more industrial than PE (and didn't grow up in Cleveland), but I feel I understand aspects of why people are drawn to it, how environment shapes interest and scenes, and why "dark" music isn't itself necessarily toxic.
As this is a TH-cam comment, I'm not going to have space and context to elaborate how neofash embed themselves in any counter-cultural scene so this post refers to the idealized form of why a person can choose to not be outwardly bright and cheerful but still find meaning in the context of their lives and associates and creating something more than themselves.