Believe it or not the actual Wild Bill bar fight was a lot more intense... from a drunk soldier’s gun misfiring at Bill’s temple with him managing to escape after killing one of them and hide at the local cemetery... legendary
I watch this when I was a teenager never been in a bar fight. Now I've been a bounce for 15 years and been in many. This fight was realistic and awesome and I only just realised that now.
Compare it bar fight scenes in almost ANY martial arts movie you've ever seen where Chuck Norris or Steven Seagal or Jean Claude Van Damme, or any other martial artist/actor cleans up a bar full of tough guys all by himself. The thing you'll notice about those movies is the bad guys are always considerate enough to attack one at a time, in sequence. Hero drops one, next one grabs a pool cue or beer bottle or pulls a knife or something, and charges, goes down; cue the next one on the list, etc. etc. It's hilarious how they all wait their turn. Here, on the other hand, more realistically, they all jump Wild Bill at once. Bill's tough enough to hold his own rather well, considering -- could probably take any one of them individually -- but he's still going to get killed in the end because it's one against five or six, so the bartender hands him his pistols.
MICHAEL DUKES Bill Hickok was just as much a self made legend as the others, I mean in his own words the man claims to have killed over a hundred men. 1) there’s only documentation that’s verifiable that shows he only killed about 4-6, nobody and I mean nobody survived a 100+ gunfights your luck will run out eventually and Murphy’s law is always in full effect.
@@iamthelizardking6239 he was the most skilled gun fighter in the west he definetly could have won a 100 gunfights same way the best boxers in the old days used to win 100 fights
@@iamthelizardking6239 not really because it depends on skill level its possible that bill was alot more skilled than the 100 guys he killed which is why he could beat them all.
@@Jake-pm3pz Except skill doesn't matter half as much as it does in boxing. A guy can take a pistol learn how to use it for ten minutes and kill a Navy Seal just as easily as he could shoot someone like him, in a gunfight situation maybe not but still there's a reason the more trained people are the more they avoid conflict because whilst sure a Navy Seal could probably handle the situation better,probably kill the untrained guy first there is always that margin of chance and luck that you can't count on. If Hickok survived 100 gun fights or had gunfights big enough to kill 100 men then i'm expecting to see more wear and tear from him as a result.
The only thing that was wrong in this scene, unless it was shown in the movie and I just don't remember, is that Wild Bill was wounded in the right shoulder during this incident - the first time he ever got shot. And for those of you who read this and are interested in a little trivia: At some point, Wild Bill encountered a young boy by the name of Bill Tilghman, while looking for I believe it was a stolen wagon, and evidently he left such an impression on the boy, that young Bill Tilghman would later grow up to become a U.S Marshal himself, and would play a part in bringing down the outlaw Bill Doolin, as well as go on to produce/direct/star in one of the first silent movies in the early 1900s.
@@Hibernicus1968that's what I was gonna say this ain't a battle of ethics but a battle of pride (and revenge for a comrade for the soldiers side). simple disagreement is all, sometimes a man who needs an apology cause what the other did and a man who ain't never apologized in his life even if he knows he's in the wrong now, meet, sometimes they gotta fight. especially if one of them crushes the others hat (tbh i think Bill woulda been civil otherwise as he can probably understand soldiers being upset a friend who survived the whole war died at his hands, but he ain't gonna apologize, and he ain't gonna let someone stamp his hat. Even if he's in the wrong and knows it that's still respectable asf. And he's not in the wrong for retaliating to the hat stamp with violence as that is obviously what the soldier wanted and was just giving him the excuse to start it)
In another era, a commander would've just handed out some Article 15's and that establishment would have been placed "off-limits" for military personnel. Healthier alternative for the soldiers than making "Wild Bill" Hickok deal with their drunkenness and disorderly conduct.
A service man getting arrested because he was drunk probably due to post traumatic stress disorder something unknown at the time but other soldiers would have some understanding of even if not scientific just empathetic, brothers yaknow, not that they’re in the right just people have fought for less yk and the drunk soldier due to being drunk and most likely disarmed by fellow soldiers or a more sober self so he doesn’t shoot anyone while drunk so eh guns vs drunk soldier, still a pretty fair fight but yk homeboy probably needed help not jail. Soldiers were seen as scary due to post traumatic stress disorder seeming just like men with broken minds inclined to anger and fear both able to cause fatal bursts of instinctive violence especially when drunk, so yaknow idk times were as grey as the Dixie’s back then ion know what to tell you
Because the bars and saloons of those days, contrary to what you see in most movies and TV shows, were not well illuminated. Candles and oil lamps do not produce the level of light that our modern electric lights do.
This is the coolest scene where Wild Bill first started arguing wish USA soldiers, and then began to extinguish them all in a row, and then shot a couple of soldiers.
Start a fight because the man put one of your drunk buddies in jail, gang up on him in a vicious beating, keep going after he pulls his pistols and fires a warning shot, keep at him after getting pistol whipped, then call him a "killer". Showed pretty good restraint in not continuing the blasting.
Did this saloon fight actually happen in Hays City, or was this just fictionally written as part of the movie's plot? The reason I ask is because I'm writing a stage play about Hickok for college, as a means to separate the truth from the myth.
JOSEPH G. ROSA - THE WEST OF WILD BILL HICKOK - 1982 The book does not keep its promise. You will not discover the West of Hickok because there is no real description of it. Data and detail are only provided when they are attached to one particular picture and the pictures are essentially centered on people. But that does not provide us with a full coverage of the period, the region and even the actions of the people who are laboriously stilted into immobility. One example will be enough by citing General, who is not really a general, Custer. He is present in the book because he came across Hickok, but in a marginal way and his action against Indians is definitely not clearly both explained and exposed. It is alluded to. The same thing can be widened to Indian life, Indian rejection, Indian killings, etc. All that is anecdotal and superficial. We could say the same thing about the west itself, the farming, cattle raising, the economy of this west. It is not explained, nor exposed when necessary. The only thing then that comes out of the book is a sketch of Hickok’s life, and interesting portraits, photographic as well as other types of printed representations of people. Unluckily do not believe it is in any way some press photography of real life, events, actions, happenings or whatever. It is only the formal portraits of the people who have dressed up for the occasion and who stand in an unnatural and stiff way. It can only give some indication of how these people would dress on a special occasion, maybe going to mass on Sunday, maybe going to some local celebration like a marriage or a funeral. In other words it does not give us the feel, the smell, the looks even of this western life on the frontier. This is to be regretted because there would be so much to say about the various stages of Hickok’s life, including his period when he was a showman with or without Buffalo Bill. Skimpy; skimpy! Like a mouse dancing on a frozen lake, Mice Lake I guess, a ballet that could be interesting. But in the west, in Cody, in Bordeaux, in the Dakotas or Montana, in Illinois or Kansas, there is so much more to say. Dr Jacques COULARDEAU
Help historians/old west enthusiasts! Did Hickok really fight or kill some soldiers in a Kansas saloon? I know in Time Life's The Gunfighter, there is a photo of dead Federal troops lying outside a saloon and, if I remember correctly, the caption mentions a confrontation between them and Wild Bill
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One of Jeff’s most underrated movies.
Loved it !
Thought I recognized the voice, but couldn’t place the man. Thanks.
Believe it or not the actual Wild Bill bar fight was a lot more intense... from a drunk soldier’s gun misfiring at Bill’s temple with him managing to escape after killing one of them and hide at the local cemetery... legendary
I don’t know the movie seem’s more intense. Legendary.
Liar
I saw that. After the gun failed to discharge, he jumped out a plate glass window and took off! Damned Yankees!
@@kennethtyree4770 Ehh no, Thomas Custer was not in this fight...they were his men though.
I watch this when I was a teenager never been in a bar fight. Now I've been a bounce for 15 years and been in many.
This fight was realistic and awesome and I only just realised that now.
Compare it bar fight scenes in almost ANY martial arts movie you've ever seen where Chuck Norris or Steven Seagal or Jean Claude Van Damme, or any other martial artist/actor cleans up a bar full of tough guys all by himself. The thing you'll notice about those movies is the bad guys are always considerate enough to attack one at a time, in sequence. Hero drops one, next one grabs a pool cue or beer bottle or pulls a knife or something, and charges, goes down; cue the next one on the list, etc. etc. It's hilarious how they all wait their turn.
Here, on the other hand, more realistically, they all jump Wild Bill at once. Bill's tough enough to hold his own rather well, considering -- could probably take any one of them individually -- but he's still going to get killed in the end because it's one against five or six, so the bartender hands him his pistols.
Been in a few myself. Hate it. Hate fighting. Every time..
Your not old your prob only 10
Sure you have.
@@wreckanchor Yep!! stay well.
I love when the blue coat grabed bills legged ,and he just plugged him..
When the soldier said he should apologize, his answer should have been, “Yeah well, ya know. that’s just like ahh...your opinion, man.”
😂😆😆
They didn’t serve White Russians at that bar that I am literally in right now? I just wish this town would get the exact location down pat!?
Love this movie. Goes well with tombstone as Wild Bill is mentioned by Doc Holiday when he meets Johnny Ringo !
“Look honey, Johnny Ringo.. they say he’s the greatest gun fighter & slinger since wild bill”
Actually that was high praise Wild Bill was far more wild than ringo
Of all the Old West gunmen and sometimes self-styled legends, Wild Bill was one of the few we could call “the real deal.”
MICHAEL DUKES Bill Hickok was just as much a self made legend as the others, I mean in his own words the man claims to have killed over a hundred men. 1) there’s only documentation that’s verifiable that shows he only killed about 4-6, nobody and I mean nobody survived a 100+ gunfights your luck will run out eventually and Murphy’s law is always in full effect.
@@iamthelizardking6239 he was the most skilled gun fighter in the west he definetly could have won a 100 gunfights same way the best boxers in the old days used to win 100 fights
jakob 19 dude winning 100 gunfights and winning 100 boxing matches is comparing apples to hand grenades not even close
@@iamthelizardking6239 not really because it depends on skill level its possible that bill was alot more skilled than the 100 guys he killed which is why he could beat them all.
@@Jake-pm3pz Except skill doesn't matter half as much as it does in boxing. A guy can take a pistol learn how to use it for ten minutes and kill a Navy Seal just as easily as he could shoot someone like him, in a gunfight situation maybe not but still there's a reason the more trained people are the more they avoid conflict because whilst sure a Navy Seal could probably handle the situation better,probably kill the untrained guy first there is always that margin of chance and luck that you can't count on.
If Hickok survived 100 gun fights or had gunfights big enough to kill 100 men then i'm expecting to see more wear and tear from him as a result.
Shouldn't touch another man's hat.
well that sure escalated quickly..
Just love this scene. "They'll kill yew, Bill!"
I always thought this his best film. He captured a loneliness and pride in Hickock i thought fitted the man.
Think how well you could've done selling insurance to saloon keepers.
You'd be backing a loser...forever paying out.
@@manonamountain Who said anything about paying out? ;)
Will Bill remains in my All-Time Top 5...
Touching a man's hat is the wild west equivalent of telling someone to go get their shine box
Love this scene. Wish I had had the nerve to complement Jeff on it when I was an extra in his movie Only The Brave.
You were an extra?
He's a tremendously talented actor. I get the impression he'd be somewhat intense off screen,
Much like Val Kilmer as Doc Holiday, Jeff Bridges has immortalize Bill Hickok…
Look likem kinda too
Wild Bill kicks ass
Underated movie.. THIS WAS A GREAT 1995 MOVIE! 🤘🤠
Wild Bill = True Grit: The Early Years
No, it doesn't. You're just unoriginal. :'D
Those soldiers do a good job rhyming disses though.
when breaking balls goes too far--western style
Just fucking bad ass. Best saloon fight on film.
I don't apologize, not to you or anybody else. Not ever!" Gold. Mostly great movie. Jeff Bridges was perfect as Wild Bill!
Jeff Bridges??!! Daaayum!
It was good movie showing how a gunfighter builds a reputation and how it is all consuming in the end!
Jeff became wild bill without a doubt
Superb performance
That hat really tied the outfit together
I see what you did there
The guy for sure was WILD.
The only thing that was wrong in this scene, unless it was shown in the movie and I just don't remember, is that Wild Bill was wounded in the right shoulder during this incident - the first time he ever got shot.
And for those of you who read this and are interested in a little trivia: At some point, Wild Bill encountered a young boy by the name of Bill Tilghman, while looking for I believe it was a stolen wagon, and evidently he left such an impression on the boy, that young Bill Tilghman would later grow up to become a U.S Marshal himself, and would play a part in bringing down the outlaw Bill Doolin, as well as go on to produce/direct/star in one of the first silent movies in the early 1900s.
I remember when his dad played this part.
Love this movie
Fights stop when gunfire erupts.
I find this a very powerfull scene.
acually a more violent secene。
When you put down your guns, always have a backup, a knive even two knives; fighting is never about fairness....if it is your tactics sucks.
Why are u looking for a fight?
@@Blackkey034 The fight will come to you one way or another so be ready.
Ive always liked beer cans. especially full ones.
@@bulljordan628 IKR
Bro isn’t a good martial arstist but was a good gunner.
He is /was a great wild bill
Well, he gave them 2 warning shots; right?
Just another Saturday night at my local bar 😂
Slow Tuesday in my town.
@@raychambers3646 😂
0:58 Soldier was psychically linked to that woman over there.
Wild Bill does work
love this guy
This is why you Always carry a knife, along with your pistola's...
that was a little more than a touch
Bill Williamson starts saloon brawl in Smithfields while Arthur, Javier and Charles try to charm the ppl.
Hard feelings and bad blood between the blue and the gray didn't end at Appomattox.
Except Hickock had scouted for the _Union_ side, so soldiers in blue wouldn't have had cause to hate him on account of that.
@@Hibernicus1968that's what I was gonna say this ain't a battle of ethics but a battle of pride (and revenge for a comrade for the soldiers side). simple disagreement is all, sometimes a man who needs an apology cause what the other did and a man who ain't never apologized in his life even if he knows he's in the wrong now, meet, sometimes they gotta fight. especially if one of them crushes the others hat (tbh i think Bill woulda been civil otherwise as he can probably understand soldiers being upset a friend who survived the whole war died at his hands, but he ain't gonna apologize, and he ain't gonna let someone stamp his hat. Even if he's in the wrong and knows it that's still respectable asf. And he's not in the wrong for retaliating to the hat stamp with violence as that is obviously what the soldier wanted and was just giving him the excuse to start it)
In another era, a commander would've just handed out some Article 15's and that establishment would have been placed "off-limits" for military personnel. Healthier alternative for the soldiers than making "Wild Bill" Hickok deal with their drunkenness and disorderly conduct.
This was fast pace for older movie as far as action!
Most action films in the 90s were
Next time someone says white people have no culture show them this.
Wild Bill Logic: Everyone gangster until you become one.
RDR2 Logic: imA gEt ThE lEw Onn YU!
Thats a realistic fight scene
I never did understand going back to so call “avenge” a buddy who lost a fight 1on1 and defend their honour like dude your guy lost take the L
A service man getting arrested because he was drunk probably due to post traumatic stress disorder something unknown at the time but other soldiers would have some understanding of even if not scientific just empathetic, brothers yaknow, not that they’re in the right just people have fought for less yk and the drunk soldier due to being drunk and most likely disarmed by fellow soldiers or a more sober self so he doesn’t shoot anyone while drunk so eh guns vs drunk soldier, still a pretty fair fight but yk homeboy probably needed help not jail. Soldiers were seen as scary due to post traumatic stress disorder seeming just like men with broken minds inclined to anger and fear both able to cause fatal bursts of instinctive violence especially when drunk, so yaknow idk times were as grey as the Dixie’s back then ion know what to tell you
that hook was sweeeeeeet!
Love this movie!
Kyle Rittenhouse ...same situation.
When Kyle beat up a girl behind her back? Not really
@@jt1929 what?
why are these today westerns like this and unforgivin always lit darkly and not enough light.
Because the bars and saloons of those days, contrary to what you see in most movies and TV shows, were not well illuminated. Candles and oil lamps do not produce the level of light that our modern electric lights do.
This is the coolest scene where Wild Bill first started arguing wish USA soldiers, and then began to extinguish them all in a row, and then shot a couple of soldiers.
Stfu your countrys even more corrupt
Scene was hollywood. Fiction. Don't tell you the Soldier he through in jail drunk was Thomas Custer, 2 time MOH winner. They did not get along.
0:40
Me when some stranger I've never met before in my life tells me I should feel guilty for having "white privilege".
i wouldve done the same thing as wild bill tbh
Been hittin that Chinese pipe too much.
Start a fight because the man put one of your drunk buddies in jail, gang up on him in a vicious beating, keep going after he pulls his pistols and fires a warning shot, keep at him after getting pistol whipped, then call him a "killer". Showed pretty good restraint in not continuing the blasting.
Yo that what the best bar fight i seen yet. The scene was on point. How it would went down in real life.
Including shooting three guys dead at the end?
Yes .he already started to shoot anyway to get everyone back up lol
You were there?
nah Wild bill would have been knocked out when he was slammed into the mirror
The Guy who kills him in Deadwood wears a similar hat to the Barman.
Probably a mechanics hat (wheel hat) or a fisherman's cap. Pretty common for the time, and some Confederates wore them in battle
Is this connected to the derwood show? (I'm new to westerns)
RIPD: the prequel.
Love this scene. Too bad the rest of the movie was so weak...
Not exactly a fair fight
Those guns seemed like pretty good eveners
Which way do you mean?
Yeah, not enough soldiers.
Video is too dark...how can i lighten it up?
Did this saloon fight actually happen in Hays City, or was this just fictionally written as part of the movie's plot? The reason I ask is because I'm writing a stage play about Hickok for college, as a means to separate the truth from the myth.
JOSEPH G. ROSA - THE WEST OF WILD BILL HICKOK - 1982
The book does not keep its promise. You will not discover the West of Hickok because there is no real description of it. Data and detail are only provided when they are attached to one particular picture and the pictures are essentially centered on people. But that does not provide us with a full coverage of the period, the region and even the actions of the people who are laboriously stilted into immobility.
One example will be enough by citing General, who is not really a general, Custer. He is present in the book because he came across Hickok, but in a marginal way and his action against Indians is definitely not clearly both explained and exposed. It is alluded to. The same thing can be widened to Indian life, Indian rejection, Indian killings, etc. All that is anecdotal and superficial. We could say the same thing about the west itself, the farming, cattle raising, the economy of this west. It is not explained, nor exposed when necessary.
The only thing then that comes out of the book is a sketch of Hickok’s life, and interesting portraits, photographic as well as other types of printed representations of people. Unluckily do not believe it is in any way some press photography of real life, events, actions, happenings or whatever. It is only the formal portraits of the people who have dressed up for the occasion and who stand in an unnatural and stiff way. It can only give some indication of how these people would dress on a special occasion, maybe going to mass on Sunday, maybe going to some local celebration like a marriage or a funeral.
In other words it does not give us the feel, the smell, the looks even of this western life on the frontier. This is to be regretted because there would be so much to say about the various stages of Hickok’s life, including his period when he was a showman with or without Buffalo Bill. Skimpy; skimpy! Like a mouse dancing on a frozen lake, Mice Lake I guess, a ballet that could be interesting. But in the west, in Cody, in Bordeaux, in the Dakotas or Montana, in Illinois or Kansas, there is so much more to say.
Dr Jacques COULARDEAU
Wild bill fights union soliders
This movie has another scene that will always stay with me, and it was when he had his girlfriend spread wide open when he was caught.
UM DOS MAIORES FAROESTE QUE JA VI! KI FILME DA PORRA!!!
Wasn’t Bill a Union man?
Help historians/old west enthusiasts! Did Hickok really fight or kill some soldiers in a Kansas saloon? I know in Time Life's The Gunfighter, there is a photo of dead Federal troops lying outside a saloon and, if I remember correctly, the caption mentions a confrontation between them and Wild Bill
There are no photos of dead US soldiers from this bar fight. But this event did happen, just not exactly like this.
Some great moments but ultimately a pack of lies as a biopic
Snatching souls!
Men were not that big in the old west. Not much food available. The beer must have good in a bottle.
I'm related to wild bill... closely I think he's an uncle or cousin.
SALVAJE WILD TENIA RAZON NO SE DEBE TOCAR EL SOMBRERO DE UN HOMBRE .
black powder
Y quien tiene la pelicula completa ??? Para que la suba..en latino...gracias..
More like wild boar.
Tío vivo del mecago en Dios
lol
Great scene from a terrible movie.
Terrible scene from a great movie, BZ.
Do I kinda get the feelin' as them theyare Yankee bluebellies don't like him?