The Italian divers and rescue teams across the board have done an amazing job here. They have not stopped in the pursuit to recover the perished. This is an example of how a rescue operation should be conducted. Well done to you all. 🇬🇧🇮🇹
I used to work on a variety of yachts out of Antibes and Nice, and I was always amazed at how many guests would neglect to close hatches and portholes or even open them after the crew locked them down. The number of people who overlook such a basic safety measure is staggering. Any boat builder who claims their vessel is unsinkable has no business building boats at all.
Unless he's building them for drydock displays. Seriously, there are few disasters on the sea void of human error. Even the Titanic was caused by human error.
The windows shattered. Lynch’s wife, who survived, said they were awakened when the ship tilted suddenly. They were not worried but she got up to see what was happening and then the windows shattered. She was badly cut in her escape.
To me it's almost like asking for trouble when you claim a boat is unsinkable. When they make those claims, they aren't taking into account the human factor, which is very difficult, if not impossible, to control, as you pointed out.
@@sherrih6375 If no humans were present we might not know about them. Or unless an island was covered entirely, or a rock slide caused a tsunami that harmed people elsewhere, we might not even call them disasters.
@@rrf146total facts! When are people going to learn Mother Nature is undefeated out there in the seas 😂! She will swallow up any yacht 🛥️ . The only ships that can handle large storms are military ships.
We had the bad luck to encounter a similar situation in Italy near Lignano. A thunder storm with high gusts hit our boat in the middle of the night at anchor. The boat drifted and we barely managed to keep position. The wind was so strong our aluminium two keel was pushed in the water. I thought we are sinking any minute. We stood afloat but I cannot tell you how. Water was everywhere, in the air too. The spray was so strong. We brushed it off the next morning. Looking back now. I am glad we survived.
i find this video poster trying to grab headlines using unsinkable, a pure disgrace to the lives lost. Floow ESysman he gives a full detail and has comparison vids .
I do not blame mother nature for that one. I smell a touch of DEW and maybe a touch of HAARP. Look it up. Definitely targeted. That is what I call intuition and some people call it "conspiracy theory". Choices.......
Just what I was thinking. If a local fishing boat had sank with all on board, you would only hear about it in the local news. ps…. the local fishermen are too smart to go out to sea in such weather. They’ve learned the hard way.
I do think the pictures of the Deceased carried off the rescue boats at the quayside could have been avoided. This is such a sad accident, we all need privacy at times as such as these.
Given the design, I'm suggesting that the keel- which was moveable- changing the BALANCE, was at full retraction- in the UP position- at the time of the weather event. That, coupled with strong winds and a HUGE mast, literally flipped/capsized the craft. (It was TOP heavy)
Since the boat was at anchor in deep water there would not have been any need to raise the keel. It’s certainly possible it was raised. To be determined when/if the boat is raised. More problematic was that water tight hatches, portholes and doors may not have been fully closed and locked to prevent flooding in the event of heeling over. The ship probably should not have been at anchor in such a strong storm. Passengers probably should have been temporarily placed on shore during the storm. So a variety of judgment errors are the fundamental fault.
Can you guys stop saying the mast broke and cause the sinking. If the mast had broken, it would help the stability, not decrease it. My guess is they left the garage door in the stern open and when it was knocked over by the wind, the water rushed in there. Second, the keel was down and the sudden gust of wind snapped it off. This caused the ship to stay on its side and water rushed in through the open hatches and doors.
I don't think any manufacturer has ever made an unsinkable boat or ship. This is very sad. I'm so happy that lady with the small baby got out and sorry for the folks who didn't make it. Rich or poor... this is a horrible way to go.
The band was still being set up as well. It is quite amazing given the time taken to sink at 5am after probably a late night so many survived. I seriously looked at a Bluewater sailing boat but there were so many lives lost and problems due to keels and weather, I gave it a miss. I would like to see the engineer's calculations and reasons for the mask size on that boat.
I thought they meant the people onboard should have been wakened and taken to an assembly point ONSHORE when news of an approaching storm was received. I can't see that going over well with passengers on any kind of boat, let alone plutocrats on a luxury yacht.
I was shipwrecked once on a 72ft boot. It literally turned over and sunk in mins. I only had a very short moment to be woken up climb the stairs and jump into the water..
If the adjustable keel had been lowered whilst stationary would have solved stability, however I read that if this were the case the keel makes a constant clinking sound with the motion of the stationary craft which would have annoyed the occupants. Most plausible finding me thinks. Coupled with the intact huge mast.
@@billb7583 I think your missing the point, before the storm the keel was raised for normal conditions, the keel is only dropped under full sail at sea, however in the event of bad weather, whilst stationary, the prudent captain of a ship with the tallest mast of any ship, could have anticipated what could happen. Just to make you laugh as a kid I once foolishly went in the ocean in a 12 foot sailing dinghy which had an up and down centre board. I was caught in a squall, panicking I raised the centre board (keel) while I was taking down the sail and guess what, physics 👍
It’s been said that cabin portals are often left open in hot weather to help with air circulation and those who slept on deck to cool off had survived.
As I recall both the Titanic ,the Bismarck and the Yamato were all called “unsinkable”.They rest at the bottom of the ocean.The cause here is likely multi factorial ,keel up therefore top heavy ,some portholes open due to hot weather ,so water rushed in ,crew not fully prepared for weather ,weather forecast wrong,main cabins at the bottom of the ship therefore impossible to escape from quickly.
Humans: "This boat is unsinkable!" Ocean: "Hold my waterspout carrying an iceberg dead ahead." Edited due to the oceans' poor grammar and icebergs! Hope this suffices 🙏
Yes, if you know there's a hurricane building up, you batten down the hatches, but a sudden twister when anchored off the coast and the crew are not on duty......
the main problem is lifting keel. On some sailboat weight of the keel is up to 60%. this one is almost 500 tons. The keel is at least 200 tons, and they want to keep it on the deck.
@@WatchingtheWorldBurning A 10 m keel is enormous! The yacht must have been a huge hazard to all sea living creatures: very fast and the keel cutting through the water like a machete.
Why say the yacht was Unsinkable?! It did indeed sink! I'm sick of hearing people trying to find fault. Let the dead Rest in Peace. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, horrific things can happen to you. I'm heartbroken for these precious families. Thank you for the divers, rescue and recovery personnel. God Bless All of You.
Loosing the mast would improve stability not sink the vessel. Keel up would reduce stability hugely and not news on that yet. Why such a disparity between crew and guest survival rate? 5 am most crew would be asleep or were they mustered?
I’m wondering if the crew were mustered ‘too little too late’ in order to take some preventative action against worsening weather- trying to do it without disturbing the passengers too. That could be due to cumulative bad experience with entitled rich people complaining about things like lifeboat drills being ‘unnecessary’.
I am a full time sailor and I confess that I too rarely pay attention to weather forecasts while at anchor (where one is supposedly safe) , especially in the summer months.
@@suzyqualcast6269 Sometimes they wait on berth availability or they just sit at anchor waiting for orders. its also cheaper to be at anchor than in port.
Naval architects and boat builders of super yachts, do not have reasons to cut corners during the design or construction phase. But under extreme conditions, which seems to be the case, a RETRACTED keel, along with heavy and not SECURED furniture and fixtures, could prove disastrous. When things go “south”, unfortunately, everything happens very fast. Under these conditions, no one should be allowed in their cabins, which in a sail boat lie beneath the water line. I think, it is not a coincidence that most of the crew survived, because they were probably followed the “all hands on deck” rule applied in emergencies…
I’m watching the recovery now. (I live near Porticello) I can’t understand why the crew didn’t take the passengers to the shore earlier. These storms in Sicily are very severe with incredibly strong winds. Incredible negligence.
"its unsinkable!" "the crew didnt listen to weather warnings" how about dont call your product unsinkable if it needs a load of disclaimers. Any boat is unsinkable on land
We had a boat sink with the hatch open on the bow and it still retained an air pocket inside the boat, thank god, it’s actually how we got a passenger out - through the open hatch.
One of the many duties/tasks of a yacht skipper and his second mate is to keep abreast of weather forecasts. I am certain that such a technically sophisticated and luxuries yacht would have been fitted with the very latest and best forecasting and navigation equipment of which would be included software to monitor weather maps of the geographic area the yacht would be sailing and anchored at any given time. The fact that this yacht was fitted with a lifting keel is significant as the right-ability of any yacht is dependant on the centre of gravity of the weight/balast positioned at the bottom of its keel. If the yacht was anchored in shallow water, it is possible that the keel was lifted to reduce overall draft. If the keel was in the lifted position then the righting moment of the keel; its leverage to keep upright the weight of the mast, stanchions and stowed sails would be significantly reduced. If the reduced righting moment/leverage of the keel was combined with water flooding into openings such as hatches and windows; combined with the pressure of extreme wind and waves would certainly send what appears to be a very stable yacht to the bottom. Under extreme conditions reported the yacht could sink very quickly. This is exactly what seems to have happened.
my friends & I got mugged in Sicily, money & passports stolen with no way home & the consulate wouldn’t return our calls, a billionaire sinks on his mega yacht & the consulate secretary himself is dockside within hours! I know it’s a tragic incident by just shows who gets looked after
...before writing a comment on the sinkable boat......check the video somewhere here, shows a webcam of a similar boat, touching the water with the head of the mast (45 degrees!) and going back to the position itself after the terrible wind hit it.
A boat is only "unsinkable" if it has enough permanent buoyancy foam or whatever in it to support the full loaded weight of the boat, so that even if you punch a hole in it and leave the doors open, the hull will stay afloat even if it is completely filled with water. Of course, that won't save anyone trapped in a cabin from drowning.
Snapped mast would actually aid stability, so it's a complete red herring to suggest that even if it did that would have made the Yacht more suspectable to capsizing when the opposite is more likely.
Overconfidence in high-tech systems is one of the leading causes for deadly disasters in the aviation, automotive, and maritime industry. Whenever individuals delegate their personal responsibility to saveguard humans to automated technical systems, no matter how advanced they might be, human beings are at risk of getting harmed or even of losing their lifes. This German captain who saved the lifes of 15 passengers of the sunk superyacht "The Bayesian" managed to do so 'cause, after more than 40 years on sea, he knew that there are no such things as "unsinkable vessels". Instead he allowed his instinct to kick in at night, making him jump out of bed and start the engine to get out of the danger zone on time. Never forget that, in the end, Murphy's Law rules us all!
The fact that this was a celebration of being free from the lawsuit and celebrating with people who had helped him adds another dimension to the sadness of this tragedy.
7:23 BBC - "In January 2022, the High Court in London ruled that HP had "substantially won" its civil case against Lynch and Hussain in which HP claimed that the two individuals had "artificially inflated Autonomy's reported revenues, revenue growth and gross margins".
[Indeed the Italian 🇮🇹 personnel and authorities so honourable and respectful with a passion, for our beloved deceased,this stems from a deep sense of sorrow and a reminder of how fragile we each all are!❤]
2 days after his business partner died, both dying shortly after being acquitted for billions of fraud in the US. Human error? More likely the deceased offended the wrong people.
How awful, the boat builder is rushing to blame everyone and everything to detract blame from their business. Crass and truly disgusting given that people are grieving and still recovering from a traumatic experience. Wait for the official investigation!
Sank because 1. Keel was up. (Because it was close to shore. Making vessel not rool resistant) Port holes were open. Doors were open. All captain’s fault for not ordering lock downs of this boat as storm set in.
I wish people who know nothing about ships would just shut up. Where on earth do you think people are on a boat at 5am? I’ll tell you in their bunks in their cabin sleeping. I’d like to see the correspondent trying to move around a vessel that is heeling over more than 30 degrees never mind being knocked over on its beam end. This is a very tragic incident but is a reminder that weather is unpredictable and the sea is always out to get you. I would like to hear what the Yacht Master has to say but I believe he is injured and in hospital. My thoughts are for the survivors.
@@EMEL-hr4utSome storms can become extremely dangerous in a nano second. My own dad drowned because of that even though he knew the very familiar terrain like the back of his hand.
I wish all humans had the same dignity and respect after there murders instead of there bodies desecrated by bulldozers and Us/UK arms in cemeteries, hospital, homes, safe zones, refugee camps and tents. RIP
Italians used to publish crime scene photos in the newspaper advertising mob hits to terrorise people into silence. It was a long time ago and was pretty gruesome, I’m not surprised they take special care now.
What position was the adjustable keel in ? Was it extended or retracted ? But more importantly , who was awake and on anchor watch, monitoring the radar and radios for warnings ? Hopefully all will be answered
I work with a retired tugboat captain. He always kept a German Shepherd on board his boat. He made the comment that a German Shepherd would’ve done a better job warning the people on the Bayesian than the Bayesian’s crew.
Because a) he was showing off to his current squeeze, a stewardess when she ran onto the putty and b) for leaving the ship instead of staying behind to supervise the safe disembarkation of passengers and crew.
Wouldn’t the Times make better use of resources and time by getting someone who knew what they were actually talking about and understood the technical aspects.
If you sell a yacht as unsinkable, and someone buys that line ... they're both in the wrong. A normal yacht is unsinkable unless the crew make a mistake or it hits a rock, submarine, etc.
Did you say Submarine ? Look how many trawlers have been dragged to the bottom by submarines, only to be followed by a conspiricy of silence and denial. Also a co- defendant in the HP court case was killed last week. We may never know the truth 😮
The Titanic was never actually described as ‘unsinkable’ The Titanic was claimed by its builders to be ‘practically unsinkable’. It was a bold claim, but slightly less bold than the ‘unsinkable’ claims that movies have added to the story.
The boat's drop-keel (a major contributor to stability) was raised... In deep water (50 metres). With a predicted storm on the way... why would you do that? Also, it seems several hatches/openings were left open... (which is why it took on water so fast, sank in 12 minutes) I mean you couldn't put the boat in a more precarious configuration if you tried! Couple that with Stephen Chamberlain... and the location of the boats demise - next to one of the major crime organisations in the world, and 8 billion reasons for "revenge"... Waiting to see the condition of the boat when raised to to surface... and photos of it lying on the sea bed.. that should tell us more... The chances of 2 co-defendants in a long running legal case, both in their late-middle age, dying within 2 days of each other of non-natural causes... must be close to 1 billion to 1... has to be more to this story...
Snap! Crew members should have been alert and regularly monitored weather reports. When everybody was on board was a safey emergency exercise drill conducted? Somebody knows more. The weather and the sea can change within seconds.
Tech Bros better listen. Mother Nature has her own frequency and she is speaking. I’ve sailed around Sicily and the winds can come up suddenly out of nowhere. The Bayesian had an extra long mast and the Captain had retracted the keel; passengers on board had opened all the windows in the heat and the boat was anchored. With a sudden tornado-like waterspout winds appearing off the coast of Africa in the heat of a late summer Mistral, it’s easy to imagine this disaster happening very quickly with no time to act. My sympathy to the souls of family and crew who perished in this tragedy. Bella Sicilia.
I wish all people doing interviews know what they are talking about.. The mast was declared intack a couple of days ago. Even if the mast had broken it makes the hull more stable.
A water spout is different from a tornado. It carries a massive amount of water. We had one touch down in San Diego north county in the 1980s. It took out one single family home in a beach town, just one random house on a street, then skipped a couple miles and took out a large home in a wealthy inland community. There were tons of water in that thing. Water is heavy, and it is what caused the oddly random damage in that case. Fwiw.
So, i guess this manufacturer, when they say unsinkable they mean it with an asterisk? Sorry, that's dumb. If there has to be a laundry list of conditions, then just don't say it.
surely a snapped mast would assist in buoyancy, have you seen the esysman video showing what a tornado can do to a similar sized yacht. if the keel wasnt deployed then the boat can roll more easily and the size of mast (not snapped) then becomes an issue
Edgy comment which I've seen copy pasted for internet points over the last two days, but let me ask you a question do you really think something like that is possible? if so do you not think Putin would have been blown off the back of one of his floating gin palaces by now? imo if it were possible they would off more important people like that.
I personally would have a 'sense of security' if I was a guest on an 'unsinkable' super yacht, it would be absolute horror to realize you're trapped in your cabin underwater...
Firstly there is no such thing as an unsinkable yacht. If I were to hazard a guess...it would be that the aft garage door was left open which could have then enabled initial flooding of the open garage compartment in heavy winds/seas. Wind against mast and rigging above deck could have caused the vessel to lean over (heel) at an extreme angle in high winds, causing a "knock-down" as its known sailing parlance.) Where wind pressure exceeds the initial and ultimate stability of the boat and " literally knocks the vessel over on its side." That would cause all sorts of problems in addition to flooding further destabilizing the vessel to a point that was beyond recovery. Also, this boat had a lifting keel and its possible the keel was up during the storm which would have made made the vessel much more vulnerable to heeling, a knockdown, and flooding, etc. Further more, the wind speeds and direction can rapidly fluctuate. During a knock-down in such violent conditions, it would have been near impossible to muster everyone on the aft deck or bow. Very Tragic to say the least.
The Titanic was never actually described as ‘unsinkable’ The Titanic was claimed by its builders to be ‘practically unsinkable’. It was a bold claim, but slightly less bold than the ‘unsinkable’ claims that movies have added to the story.
The Italian divers and rescue teams across the board have done an amazing job here. They have not stopped in the pursuit to recover the perished. This is an example of how a rescue operation should be conducted. Well done to you all. 🇬🇧🇮🇹
I used to work on a variety of yachts out of Antibes and Nice, and I was always amazed at how many guests would neglect to close hatches and portholes or even open them after the crew locked them down. The number of people who overlook such a basic safety measure is staggering.
Any boat builder who claims their vessel is unsinkable has no business building boats at all.
Unless he's building them for drydock displays. Seriously, there are few disasters on the sea void of human error. Even the Titanic was caused by human error.
The windows shattered. Lynch’s wife, who survived, said they were awakened when the ship tilted suddenly. They were not worried but she got up to see what was happening and then the windows shattered. She was badly cut in her escape.
To me it's almost like asking for trouble when you claim a boat is unsinkable. When they make those claims, they aren't taking into account the human factor, which is very difficult, if not impossible, to control, as you pointed out.
@@cremebrulee4759 And if the windows shattered it might just be weather caused altogether.
@@sherrih6375 If no humans were present we might not know about them. Or unless an island was covered entirely, or a rock slide caused a tsunami that harmed people elsewhere, we might not even call them disasters.
When will people learn to stop calling things "unsinkable"?
agreed
As Mother Nature says, “Hold my beer”
😂 I know totally
@@rrf146total facts! When are people going to learn Mother Nature is undefeated out there in the seas 😂! She will swallow up any yacht 🛥️ . The only ships that can handle large storms are military ships.
@@Recon6delta "The only ships that can handle large storms are military ships."
Total bs.
We had the bad luck to encounter a similar situation in Italy near Lignano. A thunder storm with high gusts hit our boat in the middle of the night at anchor. The boat drifted and we barely managed to keep position. The wind was so strong our aluminium two keel was pushed in the water. I thought we are sinking any minute. We stood afloat but I cannot tell you how. Water was everywhere, in the air too. The spray was so strong. We brushed it off the next morning. Looking back now. I am glad we survived.
Thank you for your real life account. Glad you are ok now but what a terrifying experience. 😢😢
Were people left on their cabins????scary story..please be carefull
Wow, famous last words "unsinkable." Then mother nature says,"Watch this." It's just so heartbreaking 💔
The yacht wasn't too super 😮
Or was it ,??????
i find this video poster trying to grab headlines using unsinkable, a pure disgrace to the lives lost. Floow ESysman he gives a full detail and has comparison vids .
I do not blame mother nature for that one. I smell a touch of DEW and maybe a touch of HAARP. Look it up. Definitely targeted. That is what I call intuition and some people call it "conspiracy theory". Choices.......
You watching interviews with the man that owns the company that made 🚢 he says every body in wrong places .
Rich people drown: non stop coverage. Poor people drown: ah whatever
They can con people out of their pensions but they still only have 1 life
Spot on Geeza 👏👏👏
Some poor people seem to enjoy a rich person's down fall so I empathasize with both sides 😊❤
If the poor people are migrants, there is news coverage.
Just what I was thinking. If a local fishing boat had sank with all on board, you would only hear about it in the local news.
ps…. the local fishermen are too smart to go out to sea in such weather. They’ve learned the hard way.
Definitely a benefit of being poor and not being able to afford a super yacht ⛵
I love the “glass is half full” attitude!
Well, they had it really good, when they were alive.
Yes, you have no reason to get cocky and push your luck.
I do think the pictures of the Deceased carried off the rescue boats at the quayside could have been avoided.
This is such a sad accident, we all need privacy at times as such as these.
@@michaelhooks8617
I concur. There was no need to show that.
"Unsinkable" should be a red flag. They are in the business of lying.
So they're Republicans? 🤭
Very arrogant to blame the crew prior to the facts analyzed. Unsinkable? BS.
Didn’t learn from the Titanic. Very sad 😢
" Close All Hatches" ...the forgotten quote
Yes. Just like the Titanic. I really think that belief causes the crew and captain to get casual about safety. Anything is sinkable.
16 billion sale of his company to HP then months after being exonorated for fraud this event occured is quite amazing to me.
Don’t forget, his business partner in that deal also died the same weekend in a separate incident…a hit and run.
Makes you wonder
Total coincidence 😂
@@thecuttingsark5094 And Mike's co-defendant was killed walking down a street by a car a month earlier.
Far too coincidental....
Given the design, I'm suggesting that the keel- which was moveable- changing the BALANCE, was at full retraction- in the UP position- at the time of the weather event. That, coupled with strong winds and a HUGE mast, literally flipped/capsized the craft. (It was TOP heavy)
Exactly!
Since the boat was at anchor in deep water there would not have been any need to raise the keel. It’s certainly possible it was raised. To be determined when/if the boat is raised. More problematic was that water tight hatches, portholes and doors may not have been fully closed and locked to prevent flooding in the event of heeling over. The ship probably should not have been at anchor in such a strong storm. Passengers probably should have been temporarily placed on shore during the storm. So a variety of judgment errors are the fundamental fault.
Do you usually get the keel up while anchored (if retractable)?
PS If not why would they have done it especially given the enormous hight of the mast?
Unsinkable.
Mmmmm, where have we heard that before.
I heard the same thing for Titanic
We know how it ends...
@eliztshiamamukendi6082 Agreed but the Titanic didn't have the technology which is on Ships of today
@@IGKMrNice1973 okay...
Submersible
@@IGKMrNice1973 Technology cannot really win against Nature.. it's no contest. At the end, Nature will have the upper hand.
Can you guys stop saying the mast broke and cause the sinking. If the mast had broken, it would help the stability, not decrease it. My guess is they left the garage door in the stern open and when it was knocked over by the wind, the water rushed in there. Second, the keel was down and the sudden gust of wind snapped it off. This caused the ship to stay on its side and water rushed in through the open hatches and doors.
Or the keel was up, than the ship has limited stability.
@@zonzeven I heard at night it would have been up for quieter night sleeping.
Unless the broken mast holed the boat in the wrong place. That has happened before.
@@mikepayne1350 I heard that too, could be it was on eSysman.
The best possible account I've
heard.
I don't think any manufacturer has ever made an unsinkable boat or ship. This is very sad. I'm so happy that lady with the small baby got out and sorry for the folks who didn't make it. Rich or poor... this is a horrible way to go.
Sleeping on the upper deck. Really ?
Boston Waler
I have to say... Boston Walers are great boats... so are those Grady Whites and the Cape Dorys.
If they yacht sank in seconds how were people supposed to get to an assembly point especially if they were sound asleep at the time
The band was still being set up as well. It is quite amazing given the time taken to sink at 5am after probably a late night so many survived. I seriously looked at a Bluewater sailing boat but there were so many lives lost and problems due to keels and weather, I gave it a miss. I would like to see the engineer's calculations and reasons for the mask size on that boat.
I thought they meant the people onboard should have been wakened and taken to an assembly point ONSHORE when news of an approaching storm was received. I can't see that going over well with passengers on any kind of boat, let alone plutocrats on a luxury yacht.
The only way it could sink that fast is if a massive amount of water entered the hull, probably through broken (or open) doors and windows/hatches.
@@faithlesshound5621 Exactly. They wouldn't be told what to do and maybe the passengers opened windows etc themselves
I was shipwrecked once on a 72ft boot. It literally turned over and sunk in mins. I only had a very short moment to be woken up climb the stairs and jump into the water..
Everything built by man falls apart sooner or later a Rolls-Royce engineer told me that years ago
Utterly ridiculous to state that a broken mast would negatively effect stability; quite the contrary it would have made the yacht more stable.
If the adjustable keel had been lowered whilst stationary would have solved stability, however I read that if this were the case the keel makes a constant clinking sound with the motion of the stationary craft which would have annoyed the occupants. Most plausible finding me thinks. Coupled with the intact huge mast.
@@billb7583 what about 150 ft of water?
@peterclemmet that's where they are searching. The keel would not have to be raised
@@billb7583 I think your missing the point, before the storm the keel was raised for normal conditions, the keel is only dropped under full sail at sea, however in the event of bad weather, whilst stationary, the prudent captain of a ship with the tallest mast of any ship, could have anticipated what could happen. Just to make you laugh as a kid I once foolishly went in the ocean in a 12 foot sailing dinghy which had an up and down centre board. I was caught in a squall, panicking I raised the centre board (keel) while I was taking down the sail and guess what, physics 👍
It’s been said that cabin portals are often left open in hot weather to help with air circulation and those who slept on deck to cool off had survived.
Would a boat that fancy not have air conditioning.
@@darlenechandler2403 I wondered that,too.
As I recall both the Titanic ,the Bismarck and the Yamato were all called “unsinkable”.They rest at the bottom of the ocean.The cause here is likely multi factorial ,keel up therefore top heavy ,some portholes open due to hot weather ,so water rushed in ,crew not fully prepared for weather ,weather forecast wrong,main cabins at the bottom of the ship therefore impossible to escape from quickly.
1 ship was called "build as unsinkable as possible". The shipwright never said "unsinkable". The other 2 were flooded by the crew.
@@pamelameelaI am so tired of people making up idiotic conspiracy theories.
Humans: "This boat is unsinkable!"
Ocean: "Hold my waterspout carrying an iceberg dead ahead."
Edited due to the oceans' poor grammar and icebergs! Hope this suffices 🙏
sprout.....
More like HP and its biggest shareholders (Vanguard & Blackrock)
@@full-fish The Sea is the most powerful thing on the planet ships boats are at its mercy
of course the boat builder will say it shouldn’t happen! He has a business to protect.
Over a hundred years ago they said titanic was unsinkable 😂
Yes, if you know there's a hurricane building up, you batten down the hatches, but a sudden twister when anchored off the coast and the crew are not on duty......
The sailing crew are always on duty, and the weather was bad and getting worse.
And billionaires don't appreciate taking orders from underlings.
Apparently Mike Lynch's Co-Defendent in the trial was run over 4 hours after the boat went down - eerie coincidence??
He was hit by a car the previous Saturday, and died in hospital a few hours after the boat went down.
No boat is unsinkable. If it's made of metal and even wood for that matter it can sink.
Not if there is watertight bulkheads
@@bhobbs4116 Nothing is unsinkable. There are always situations, that were never thought of, coz they havent happened yet.
Boston Whaler
@@phillipaj.5588 awesome and accurate
@@phillipaj.5588😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
While I feel sorry for these fellow humans, hubris seems to be a billionaire characteristic.
It’s a bit sus… considering his business partner died suddenly last week as well…
Just hours after the sinking, having been hit by a car the previous Saturday.
The boat was poorly designed mast was way too big for such a small base. the designer is a mofu for blaming others.
Not if the 10m keel was down. But apparently it was raised to 4m when at anchor.
the main problem is lifting keel. On some sailboat weight of the keel is up to 60%. this one is almost 500 tons. The keel is at least 200 tons, and they want to keep it on the deck.
@@WatchingtheWorldBurning
A 10 m keel is enormous!
The yacht must have been a huge hazard to all sea living creatures: very fast and the keel cutting through the water like a machete.
I would have thought that the Titanic would have put a stop to calling things unsinkable
Why say the yacht was Unsinkable?! It did indeed sink! I'm sick of hearing people trying to find fault. Let the dead Rest in Peace. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, horrific things can happen to you. I'm heartbroken for these precious families. Thank you for the divers, rescue and recovery personnel. God Bless All of You.
Loosing the mast would improve stability not sink the vessel. Keel up would reduce stability hugely and not news on that yet. Why such a disparity between crew and guest survival rate? 5 am most crew would be asleep or were they mustered?
Early 3AM actually.
@@-Mitra-the witness inside with the baby said she felt the tilt at 5.00 am
I’m wondering if the crew were mustered ‘too little too late’ in order to take some preventative action against worsening weather- trying to do it without disturbing the passengers too.
That could be due to cumulative bad experience with entitled rich people complaining about things like lifeboat drills being ‘unnecessary’.
@@-Mitra- 3 AM in the UK - 5AM in Sicily.( 1 or 2 hours ahead, I think)
They said the Titanic was 'unsinkable'.....😮
RIP to those poor lost souls ..😞
I am a full time sailor and I confess that I too rarely pay attention to weather forecasts while at anchor (where one is supposedly safe) , especially in the summer months.
You work on ships or you do it for a hobby? Most check forecasts or are warned by the harbour authorities prior to bad weather.
Maybe this will show you how wrong you are. Stay safe.
Why moor outside the harbour though.... Pushing fate ?
@@suzyqualcast6269 Sometimes they wait on berth availability or they just sit at anchor waiting for orders. its also cheaper to be at anchor than in port.
@@suzyqualcast6269 Too big for harbour
Naval architects and boat builders of super yachts, do not have reasons to cut corners during the design or construction phase.
But under extreme conditions, which seems to be the case, a RETRACTED keel, along with heavy and not SECURED furniture and fixtures, could prove disastrous. When things go “south”, unfortunately, everything happens very fast. Under these conditions, no one should be allowed in their cabins, which in a sail boat lie beneath the water line. I think, it is not a coincidence that most of the crew survived, because they were probably followed the “all hands on deck” rule applied in emergencies…
LISTEN PEOPLE! NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR BOAT IS YOU ARE NO MATCH FOR THAT OCEAN ESPECIALLY IN A STORM! ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!!!
Lol. You OK, love?
Are you yelling over the noise of the storm? You don't have to, I can hear you fine.
100%
I’m watching the recovery now. (I live near Porticello)
I can’t understand why the crew didn’t take the passengers to the shore earlier. These storms in Sicily are very severe with incredibly strong winds. Incredible negligence.
But the 'spout' only took down one single boat. Do these things come crazily out from wherever then centre themselves upon A static high point ?
“Unsinkable”
Ocean: I’ll put that name to the test 🌊
"its unsinkable!" "the crew didnt listen to weather warnings" how about dont call your product unsinkable if it needs a load of disclaimers. Any boat is unsinkable on land
This is why i wont go on a cruise ship never mind a yacht,
Anyone else remember 'The Trigan Empire'?
Nobody did - this is the boatbuilder trying (too hard) to protect his business.
We had a boat sink with the hatch open on the bow and it still retained an air pocket inside the boat, thank god, it’s actually how we got a passenger out - through the open hatch.
Far too coincidental.....
One of the many duties/tasks of a yacht skipper and his second mate is to keep abreast of weather forecasts. I am certain that such a technically sophisticated and luxuries yacht would have been fitted with the very latest and best forecasting and navigation equipment of which would be included software to monitor weather maps of the geographic area the yacht would be sailing and anchored at any given time. The fact that this yacht was fitted with a lifting keel is significant as the right-ability of any yacht is dependant on the centre of gravity of the weight/balast positioned at the bottom of its keel. If the yacht was anchored in shallow water, it is possible that the keel was lifted to reduce overall draft. If the keel was in the lifted position then the righting moment of the keel; its leverage to keep upright the weight of the mast, stanchions and stowed sails would be significantly reduced. If the reduced righting moment/leverage of the keel was combined with water flooding into openings such as hatches and windows; combined with the pressure of extreme wind and waves would certainly send what appears to be a very stable yacht to the bottom. Under extreme conditions reported the yacht could sink very quickly. This is exactly what seems to have happened.
If this was an average family, 30 seconds coverage... maximum. Rich folks, "It's a huge tragedy"
💯
There are lessons here, for rich, and for poor... Happens to be for rich this time....
No one mentioned the crew, and now they're getting blamed!!😢😢😢
@poollife777 liar... really. Pay attention next tragedy.
ok the news cycle has moved on ... nexxxxxt?
Man: 'Unsinkable!' Poseidon: 'Hold my beer...'
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Oops. Okay, 31,398 people have made the same comment (or similar) but I ain't gonna delete it.
my friends & I got mugged in Sicily, money & passports stolen with no way home & the consulate wouldn’t return our calls, a billionaire sinks on his mega yacht & the consulate secretary himself is dockside within hours! I know it’s a tragic incident by just shows who gets looked after
Dear lord, that is outrages- or rather depressing.
Look after your stuff better next time on holiday. I smell some neglect here. Anyway, this is not about you.
Dont u think the billionare Was killed by mafias ? Its a fishy Story
Oh sad for you , horrible treatment
Even titanic was unsinkable
Sounds like billionaires and water need to stay away from each other... Last year, the submersible, now this...
Sending my most heartfelt sympathy for all the victims and their family . Very sad story !!!!!!!
...before writing a comment on the sinkable boat......check the video somewhere here, shows a webcam of a similar boat, touching the water with the head of the mast (45 degrees!) and going back to the position itself after the terrible wind hit it.
Should "unsinkable" ever qualify any vessel? Isn't it a provocative epithet? The boat cannot be divorced from the humans sailing on board.
All rules of physics disbanded in their favour. Won't happen
Like saying safe for a vaccine 😅
A boat is only "unsinkable" if it has enough permanent buoyancy foam or whatever in it to support the full loaded weight of the boat, so that even if you punch a hole in it and leave the doors open, the hull will stay afloat even if it is completely filled with water. Of course, that won't save anyone trapped in a cabin from drowning.
@@mels8966 think they stuffed all available space full with jaccuzies, luxury toys
@@rosslomath polio, smallpox, rabies, mumps, TB.
Obviously, you are not well informed
"Unsinkable" ... unless you name it to challenge the odds or fighting the gods.
Snapped mast would actually aid stability, so it's a complete red herring to suggest that even if it did that would have made the Yacht more suspectable to capsizing when the opposite is more likely.
Overconfidence in high-tech systems is one of the leading causes for deadly disasters in the aviation, automotive, and maritime industry. Whenever individuals delegate their personal responsibility to saveguard humans to automated technical systems, no matter how advanced they might be, human beings are at risk of getting harmed or even of losing their lifes. This German captain who saved the lifes of 15 passengers of the sunk superyacht "The Bayesian" managed to do so 'cause, after more than 40 years on sea, he knew that there are no such things as "unsinkable vessels". Instead he allowed his instinct to kick in at night, making him jump out of bed and start the engine to get out of the danger zone on time. Never forget that, in the end, Murphy's Law rules us all!
The fact that this was a celebration of being free from the lawsuit and celebrating with people who had helped him adds another dimension to the sadness of this tragedy.
No boat is unsinkable.
Grady white boats are unsinkable. All the way up to there 48 footer.
All this news for this lot , think of the 100s that get washed away during these extreme storms around the World.
7:23 BBC - "In January 2022, the High Court in London ruled that HP had "substantially won" its civil case against Lynch and Hussain in which HP claimed that the two individuals had "artificially inflated Autonomy's reported revenues, revenue growth and gross margins".
Acquitted in June 2024
@@angelamccann1585different trial, criminal v. civil.
Found liable in civil court. Different standard of evidence required from criminal court.
@@angelamccann1585the CFO was found guilty
The CFO was also acquitted in June 2024. He was killed last week while out jogging
[Indeed the Italian 🇮🇹 personnel and authorities so honourable and respectful with a passion, for our beloved deceased,this stems from a deep sense of sorrow and a reminder of how fragile we each all are!❤]
2 days after his business partner died, both dying shortly after being acquitted for billions of fraud in the US. Human error? More likely the deceased offended the wrong people.
Yawn. Another conspiracy theory no one cares about. Don’t you have anything better to do?
It would hardly have been a professional hit job if the driver stopped and waited for the police?
Thank you for pointing out that which is obvious. It needs to be considered at the very least.
Sounds very plausible indeed and very very suspicious!!!!!!!
I suppose the people that werent happy engineered a storm 🤣
Prayers to the families who lost their loved ones ! To the rescue people as I’m sure that was difficult!
Unsinkable in good weather...
Why was the keel weight left in the upright position? That is the cause.
Captain survived. Guess we'll find out.
Supposedly, when lowered, it could made noise at night when passengers were trying to sleep.
In combination with/the tall mast.
No it’s not the cause - it may however be a factor.
@@zeeshawnali4078glad I'm not the surviving captain. 😮
Billion dollars superyacht and yet cannot tranform into a submarine? RIP
Stop exaggerating there 38 million look it up
I thought word unsinkable was not in use after Titanic sank 112 years ago.
Didn’t he get acquitted of fraud literal weeks before this?
Mike Lynch and his CFO Stephen Chamberlain were acquitted in June. Both died that Monday, as did a couple of their defence lawyers and a witness.
How awful, the boat builder is rushing to blame everyone and everything to detract blame from their business. Crass and truly disgusting given that people are grieving and still recovering from a traumatic experience. Wait for the official investigation!
As safe as diving in a titan.
Same as the submarine that sank.
Sank because 1. Keel was up. (Because it was close to shore. Making vessel not rool resistant) Port holes were open. Doors were open. All captain’s fault for not ordering lock downs of this boat as storm set in.
Something very fishy about this case…and the man killed by a car.. was there a bright light involved?
@@chrismachin2166 Sicilia, Palermo? Could a... Godfather... have been angered? 🤔
Middle aged lady driver in a Corsa, hardly hitman tackle, last Sat. Wonder if Mr Lynch had heard by that following Monday.
@@suzyqualcast6269
It's possible Stephen Chamberlain should have also been a guest of his friend and business partner on the Bayesian.
I wish people who know nothing about ships would just shut up. Where on earth do you think people are on a boat at 5am? I’ll tell you in their bunks in their cabin sleeping. I’d like to see the correspondent trying to move around a vessel that is heeling over more than 30 degrees never mind being knocked over on its beam end. This is a very tragic incident but is a reminder that weather is unpredictable and the sea is always out to get you. I would like to hear what the Yacht Master has to say but I believe he is injured and in hospital. My thoughts are for the survivors.
Sleeping through an alleged storm. Must have been drugged
@@EMEL-hr4utSome storms can become extremely dangerous in a nano second. My own dad drowned because of that even though he knew the very familiar terrain like the back of his hand.
@@manichairdo9265 non story without detail
I wish all humans had the same dignity and respect after there murders instead of there bodies desecrated by bulldozers and Us/UK arms in cemeteries, hospital, homes, safe zones, refugee camps and tents. RIP
Italians used to publish crime scene photos in the newspaper advertising mob hits to terrorise people into silence. It was a long time ago and was pretty gruesome, I’m not surprised they take special care now.
What position was the adjustable keel in ? Was it extended or retracted ? But more importantly , who was awake and on anchor watch, monitoring the radar and radios for warnings ? Hopefully all will be answered
Likely it will. The Italians investigate these things as criminal matters. The captain of Costa Concordia was sentenced to 16 years.
I work with a retired tugboat captain. He always kept a German Shepherd on board his boat. He made the comment that a German Shepherd would’ve done a better job warning the people on the Bayesian than the Bayesian’s crew.
Keel was only designed to be down whist sailing,
Because a) he was showing off to his current squeeze, a stewardess when she ran onto the putty and b) for leaving the ship instead of staying behind to supervise the safe disembarkation of passengers and crew.
Upwind.
Where have I heard that word "unsinkable" before 😮
SOUNDS FISHY TO ME ???
Wouldn’t the Times make better use of resources and time by getting someone who knew what they were actually talking about and understood the technical aspects.
Yesterday the BBC News got a couple of technical experts, and the comments section on TH-cam was overflowing with bile from baffled ignorami.
They are only investing in headlines😂😂😂
@@faithlesshound5621 Yes I saw that too. It is intensely annoying.
how does the crew muster everyone on a deck that is sloping at more than 45 degrees?
15 we're saved, so there was time for some despatch, at least.
May their dear souls rest in peace. Tragic loss for their families, friends, and communities.
Maybe it would have been unsinkable it it didn't have such a ridiculously high mast.
Money cant buy you health and keep you save from dying😢😢😢
I thought yacht captains were supposed to dock with wealthy passengers in bad weather. I cant understand how this crew failed so many safety measures.
Billionaires don't take orders from underlings.
@hypsyzygy506 he wasn't american. He would have moved to save himself. BTW no captain is anyone's underling.
@@bobbriggs9748
Captains who don't obey billionaire owners aren't Captains much longer.
If you sell a yacht as unsinkable, and someone buys that line ... they're both in the wrong. A normal yacht is unsinkable unless the crew make a mistake or it hits a rock, submarine, etc.
Did you say Submarine ? Look how many trawlers have been dragged to the bottom by submarines, only to be followed by a conspiricy of silence and denial.
Also a co- defendant in the HP court case was killed last week. We may never know the truth 😮
Titanic II
There is nothing like unsinkable.. we know this by now, don't we
The Titanic was never actually described as ‘unsinkable’
The Titanic was claimed by its builders to be ‘practically unsinkable’. It was a bold claim, but slightly less bold than the ‘unsinkable’ claims that movies have added to the story.
The boat's drop-keel (a major contributor to stability) was raised... In deep water (50 metres). With a predicted storm on the way... why would you do that? Also, it seems several hatches/openings were left open... (which is why it took on water so fast, sank in 12 minutes) I mean you couldn't put the boat in a more precarious configuration if you tried! Couple that with Stephen Chamberlain... and the location of the boats demise - next to one of the major crime organisations in the world, and 8 billion reasons for "revenge"... Waiting to see the condition of the boat when raised to to surface... and photos of it lying on the sea bed.. that should tell us more... The chances of 2 co-defendants in a long running legal case, both in their late-middle age, dying within 2 days of each other of non-natural causes... must be close to 1 billion to 1... has to be more to this story...
This was no boating accident
Tinfoil down timmy
A lot of people seem to agree with you.
I agree 💯 no accident
Evidence?
@@bob_the_bomb4508 common sense. Drugged and probably locked in
Snap! Crew members should have been alert and regularly monitored weather reports. When everybody was on board was a safey emergency exercise drill conducted? Somebody knows more. The weather and the sea can change within seconds.
Nothing is unsinkable, they said that about the Titanic & look what happened!
Neither the builders of the Titanic nor her owners ever claimed her to be unsinkable. That was an invention of sensationalist "journalists".
Tech Bros better listen. Mother Nature has her own frequency and she is speaking.
I’ve sailed around Sicily and the winds can come up suddenly out of nowhere. The Bayesian had an extra long mast and the Captain had retracted the keel; passengers on board had opened all the windows in the heat and the boat was anchored. With a sudden tornado-like waterspout winds appearing off the coast of Africa in the heat of a late summer Mistral, it’s easy to imagine this disaster happening very quickly with no time to act.
My sympathy to the souls of family and crew who perished in this tragedy. Bella Sicilia.
oh yes, it is made of iron, it is a mathematical certainly... titanic quote
it's an aluminium boat
I wish all people doing interviews know what they are talking about.. The mast was declared intack a couple of days ago. Even if the mast had broken it makes the hull more stable.
What a tragedy, I'm unsure if fowl play played apart in this, but all those billions of pounds meant nothing.
Fowl play? Those chickens are coming home to roost 🐔🐔🐔
@@stephengrimmer35 hmmm, yes probably true 👍
@@stephengrimmer35 Lol. My thoughts exactly. Why did the chicken cross the ocean?
A water spout is different from a tornado. It carries a massive amount of water. We had one touch down in San Diego north county in the 1980s. It took out one single family home in a beach town, just one random house on a street, then skipped a couple miles and took out a large home in a wealthy inland community. There were tons of water in that thing. Water is heavy, and it is what caused the oddly random damage in that case. Fwiw.
I love the Italian people. They are beautiful.
Indeed even though they don't do black people however I love their culture
Dumb and beautiful, lol. You have to be almost as dumb as a Communist to invent Fascism.
@@maggieedwards3951How many black people have you done?
The fact that a "unsinkable" yacht can sink so fast they seemingly didn't even get time to get out of their cabins is crazy.
Boats sink and money won't keep you safe, tragic but not really that surprising.
Unfortunately a lot of rich people don't understand that simple point.
Some sources say the kiel was not put down as it had a removable door or doors left open underneath
So, i guess this manufacturer, when they say unsinkable they mean it with an asterisk? Sorry, that's dumb. If there has to be a laundry list of conditions, then just don't say it.
Short answer is, if you keep the watertight bulkheads closed, it wont sink. If you leave them open, it can.
@@TheAegisClaw Good advice
surely a snapped mast would assist in buoyancy, have you seen the esysman video showing what a tornado can do to a similar sized yacht. if the keel wasnt deployed then the boat can roll more easily and the size of mast (not snapped) then becomes an issue
"Unsinkable" HP: "hold my ink cartridge!"
Edgy comment which I've seen copy pasted for internet points over the last two days, but let me ask you a question do you really think something like that is possible? if so do you not think Putin would have been blown off the back of one of his floating gin palaces by now? imo if it were possible they would off more important people like that.
@El-Jefe have you ever thought that maybe, just maybe, he's in the club, and what you're being told is just that?
@@cannonsmith5381 so you think Putin might work for an American manufacturer of software and computer services? Have a day off bro 😂
@@El-Jefe no bro, don't be so daft. Have a nice day.
@@cannonsmith5381 define what you mean by him being in "the club" then? I think you realise how ridiculous is sounds. Peace ✌🏻
I personally would have a 'sense of security' if I was a guest on an 'unsinkable' super yacht, it would be absolute horror to realize you're trapped in your cabin underwater...
Man plan God wipe out our plan. My condolences to the families.
Firstly there is no such thing as an unsinkable yacht. If I were to hazard a guess...it would be that the aft garage door was left open which could have then enabled initial flooding of the open garage compartment in heavy winds/seas. Wind against mast and rigging above deck could have caused the vessel to lean over (heel) at an extreme angle in high winds, causing a "knock-down" as its known sailing parlance.) Where wind pressure exceeds the initial and ultimate stability of the boat and " literally knocks the vessel over on its side." That would cause all sorts of problems in addition to flooding further destabilizing the vessel to a point that was beyond recovery. Also, this boat had a lifting keel and its possible the keel was up during the storm which would have made made the vessel much more vulnerable to heeling, a knockdown, and flooding, etc. Further more, the wind speeds and direction can rapidly fluctuate. During a knock-down in such violent conditions, it would have been near impossible to muster everyone on the aft deck or bow.
Very Tragic to say the least.
The Titanic was claimed to be unsinkable.
Not by her builders or her owners. By sensationalist "journalists".
The Titanic was never actually described as ‘unsinkable’
The Titanic was claimed by its builders to be ‘practically unsinkable’. It was a bold claim, but slightly less bold than the ‘unsinkable’ claims that movies have added to the story.