I'm an old 55 yr old white guy. I was the youngest on my block growing up. I got beat up a lot ! ha Sonnny Liston was my hero ! I loved that mean stare he had.. I used to dream as a kid of being like him and knocking out all of my neighbors ! I grew up and studied medicine.. I used Sonny as a basis for a lot of my research. My conclusion, and one shared with my peers was that Sonny suffered serious heart disease.. Understood today. Never considered then..
just read in "King of the world" that in this fight they found 7 teeth in wayne's mouth piece from liston's jabs. I read it and came here and you can see the ref he keeps looking at the mouth piece. If Liston would have gotten a young start he would have been champ for several years till ali came along.
Wayne past away today Viewing will be Sunday, January 23, 2011 from 4-7 Funeral will be Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 10 Both will be held at: Marcus Jackson Funeral Home Boston Road, Bronx NY
This isn't prime Sonny Liston, he's likely 38 years old here, there's really no coverage of a prime Sonny Liston since his 20-30 he spent time in and out of prison and he did mob jobs.
the mad thing with liston is that he was old time fighter in the old era of the 50s and then entered the sixties where hardly anyone was flatfooted ans he was not trained for that but he would have still wiped out the division if he was young
@timrobwall ---agree w/ all u said, altholugh Sonny was such a mystery, hard to know what yr he was born. But he was some devastating puncher, and could also take a punch (look at Cleveland Williams fight). He was such a tough guy, though, that if a fighter could outbox him, he would seem to lose his effectiveness, as in 1st Ali fight, or in his lst fight against Leotis martin--once he tasted a little of his own blood, he was a different fighter.
@Robstailey ive rarely seen a good fighter not protest a first round stoppage,thats called heart,courage.this demonstrates the WILL to carry on despite pain,and punishment.others simply call it BALLS.Im surprised you dont even recognize balls.
but their careers did coincide. as great as rocky was, he'd really have to be on top of his game to have a chance vs. liston. he was too short and liston hit too hard.
Great Refereeing. Bethea's trainer is obviously a brave man to dispute the Ref's decision, perhaps Sonny should have punched him...he'd have soon realised that the Ref had saved Bethea.
We've studied 100s of Liston appearances. It was part of my medical studies. Sonny had serious heart problems. Today it would have been picked up on so quickly. He was the powerful and special man we saw, but with problems that came to the surface later. He would have had surgery in today's world,, sure he would have been forced to stop and retire,, but the world would have seen the real problem with Sonny,, and saw it was something he had no control over.
@Rockyfan10060 Liston was probably 36-37 years old when he fought Clay, not the 32 he claimed to be. Sonny was a great fighter and a tragically misunderstood man, but I still think Clay beats Liston in both their primes. Liston hardly touched Clay in the first fight, even when Clay was blinded in the 5th round. Clay/Ali took a punch better than just about anyone in boxing history, and his speed and mobility at 22 years old would have been too much for Sonny at any point in Sonny's career.
Just read in an old boxing mag that Bethea said the first right hand knocked 7 of his front teeth. Ouch!
I'm an old 55 yr old white guy. I was the youngest on my block growing up. I got beat up a lot ! ha
Sonnny Liston was my hero ! I loved that mean stare he had.. I used to dream as a kid of being like him and knocking out all of my neighbors !
I grew up and studied medicine.. I used Sonny as a basis for a lot of my research.
My conclusion, and one shared with my peers was that Sonny suffered serious heart disease.. Understood today. Never considered then..
Tell me more
What kinda heart disease? Makes sense about his sudden death
I wish I wasn't 11 years late 😣 I'd love to know more about this
@@BradleyLoughnane Let's hope this gentleman is still alive and is doing well. Time is hell of a thing, we will all be gone one day
Where is your proof of any of this? I'm not just going to believe you, I've heard better stories. Many people believe Liston was killed by the mob.
just read in "King of the world" that in this fight they found 7 teeth in wayne's mouth piece from liston's jabs. I read it and came here and you can see the ref he keeps looking at the mouth piece. If Liston would have gotten a young start he would have been champ for several years till ali came along.
Damn this comment is 10 years old. But I wouldn't even go as far and say Sonny could have dealt with Ali if he had proper training
18 teeth knocked out or cracked. Unbelievable but True.
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Til’ Ali came along.
@@Uuyrijies1123 Are you mentally challenged
@@Uuyrijies1123 Are you mentally challenged
Wish boxing was better preserved.
Awesome stuff, Liston is truly frightening, a real heavyweight killer 💪👍🥊🥊
Wayne past away today
Viewing will be Sunday, January 23, 2011 from 4-7
Funeral will be Monday, January 24, 2011 @ 10
Both will be held at:
Marcus Jackson Funeral Home
Boston Road, Bronx NY
1:00 me fighting be like
WOW! Prime Liston was a beast!
This isn't prime Sonny Liston, he's likely 38 years old here, there's really no coverage of a prime Sonny Liston since his 20-30 he spent time in and out of prison and he did mob jobs.
Unless he took a dive. Sonny is easily among the greatest heavyweights to ever live.
True. They say he was near forty years old when he fought Clay...
And Bethea wanted to continue! That's bada**. But like "Dude, your teeth are all loose.".
the mad thing with liston is that he was old time fighter in the old era of the 50s and then entered the sixties where hardly anyone was flatfooted ans he was not trained for that but he would have still wiped out the division if he was young
Sonny Liston knocked out Several Teeth!!!😳🦷🦷🦷🦷🦷🦷🦷
His jab would be technical and aggressive, also a push to disrupt opponent’s rhythm
Sonny Liston knocked this guy’s teeth out.
He knocked out 7 teeth
sonny first fight shown on youtube
@timrobwall ---agree w/ all u said, altholugh Sonny was such a mystery, hard to know what yr he was born. But he was some devastating puncher, and could also take a punch (look at Cleveland Williams fight). He was such a tough guy, though, that if a fighter could outbox him, he would seem to lose his effectiveness, as in 1st Ali fight, or in his lst fight against Leotis martin--once he tasted a little of his own blood, he was a different fighter.
18 teeth knocked out or cracked. Unbelievable but True.
@MultiGreat1 Are you able to substantiate that?
He knocked out 7 teeth and broken 9
@Robstailey ive rarely seen a good fighter not protest a first round stoppage,thats called heart,courage.this demonstrates the WILL to carry on despite pain,and punishment.others simply call it BALLS.Im surprised you dont even recognize balls.
but their careers did coincide. as great as rocky was, he'd really have to be on top of his game to have a chance vs. liston. he was too short and liston hit too hard.
Great Refereeing. Bethea's trainer is obviously a brave man to dispute the Ref's decision, perhaps Sonny should have punched him...he'd have soon realised that the Ref had saved Bethea.
idk lol its just his appearance and his size
no one know when Sonny was in his prime as no one knows when he was born
Announcer pronounces his name incorrectly....should be BE-THAY'...short e.
Go sonny.
idk really but foreman apparently hit harder.but in my opinion liston hit the hardest by far.
Yep.
believe it or not rocky dodged liston and patterson and fought a bum then retired
Rocky had never heard of Liston when he retired.
@@orionlapalm813 He definitely ducked Patterson tho.
@geter2hot R.I.P. Wayne.
liston was the no1 puncher of all time id say and joe louis was number 2 but the greatest heavyweight of all time
We've studied 100s of Liston appearances. It was part of my medical studies. Sonny had serious heart problems. Today it would have been picked up on so quickly.
He was the powerful and special man we saw, but with problems that came to the surface later. He would have had surgery in today's world,, sure he would have been forced to stop and retire,, but the world would have seen the real problem with Sonny,, and saw it was something he had no control over.
@Rockyfan10060 Liston was probably 36-37 years old when he fought Clay, not the 32 he claimed to be.
Sonny was a great fighter and a tragically misunderstood man, but I still think Clay beats Liston in both their primes. Liston hardly touched Clay in the first fight, even when Clay was blinded in the 5th round. Clay/Ali took a punch better than just about anyone in boxing history, and his speed and mobility at 22 years old would have been too much for Sonny at any point in Sonny's career.
Liston could’ve been as old as 47 when he fought Ali.
He is 10 years older than ali which is a big age difference
His Siblings told he was 53 when he died, bit records say he was only 38.
@@johnd.597 34 his most likely birth date was 1930
A lot of garbage in the posts here.
Liston destroy Bethea's tooths.
This started to spit those on the ring and a lot stay remain in gumshield.