It'll be funny when they confuse eachother with slight dialect differences... since one is German and the other is Austrian. That stream would be fun for sure. I also want Bae and Liz at the same time on stream with Americans. For the dialect differences lmao
Quite thankful that SEA gang witnessed Justice's debuts in the morning. I feel bad for anyone that wouldve had to wake up in the middle of the night for it
Their debuts happened for me at 10:00 and 10:45 pm. I couldn’t last through Gigi’s but I was able to see all three streams the next, it’s not impossible for me to stay up that late but I feel bad for anyone where it was like 1-4 in the morning that they were either debuting or the streams were near the end
We got CC (Carbon Copy), GG (Good Game), ERB (Elden Ring Bloodbourne) and RP (Role Play). If they collabed, it will be CCG and ERP Sticking out your GYATT for Erizzler You're so Raora You're so Gigi Tax I just wanna be your Immergreen
@@AJarOfYams CC = Cecilia. sorry if you got confused. i should probably right Cici but i like using CC because of GG that is also in their group and when they had the duel stream i was like "GG and CC awesome" and the like.
With their current streaming times, during a workweek I can watch Kiara and Liz from holoEN, that's it! Others are either too early or too late. Of course that means that I watch some ID and JP instead.
As Ina would say: "Animation is hard." You'd either have to draw and render out every single frame for the spinning key, or find a way to transition between a couple "baseline" frames in Live2D. Both of those would mean a lot of extra work for the respective person - for a minor gimmick. Giving it a lower frame rate is a good compromise.
Yeah, kinda weird timezones I was hyped as an EU viewer to see their debuts but I had to stay awake til like 7 AM in the morning to fully watch their debuts.
At least they scheduled them to bleed into Saturday/Sunday our time. Advent had the second half on a Monday morning - that was much harder to justify...
Question: Should we tell Miss Immergreen and Princess Kiara about the Thai street market in Berlin? And should Princess Biboo received the invitation to go along with them too or not?
With cici and kiara both being German and most of the HoloJustice members being from Europe, they get along really well, which makes me look forward to a future collab stream from them
With their current streaming times, the only Justice stream I can watch live is Raora (19:00 in my zone). A little bit of Gigi (05:00, exactly the time I wake up and prep for work). CC I can catch sometimes depending on how long she streams. But Queen Lizzie I just can't catch because it's always 02:00.
New debutants have a lot to do at the beginning, and they have the pressure to make more engagement to stabilize the ccv and the subs increase It'll all be over once they got the hang of it and can manage their day off on the schedule
it did seem weird to me that what is supposed to be the eu generation didn't debut at eu friendly times. their debuts happened between 8pm-11pm na and around noon jst, i think hololive wants to keep that happy medium at least for en debuts. i definitely expect justice to change their stream times to something friendlier to them in the future though.
Meanwhile Asia bros trying to watch CC, ERB and GG: *Death by no sleep* as we have to wakeup at 3AM to 4AM to catch their streams 😂😂😂 But ey at least Raora streams at a reasonable time for us
Cecilia's stream died right at "wind, wind, wind up" for most people (hence the abrupt cut) so people watching live heard a loop of her saying that over and over, and I swear I thought it was an intentional bit for a good 15 seconds.
@@hugisdb Oh for sure. It's as Kiara said: NA bros are probably the major number of views especially for EN. They could've pulled it back a few hours to say 8am or 9am JST for better coverage. Though that's probably still a rip for EU bros on their own gen😅
@@Sonicsion I watch a lot of Korean LoL and I work overnights so it’s perfect for me. But a debut during late morning NA and mid afternoon EU woulda been perfect. It’s just weird that as good as Cover is, sometimes they obsess too much on the JP market, which is odd considering how the Yen is doing atm.
When I discovered 3 out of 4 them are european I literally said "why the F* did they stream at 4 and 5 am?" I usually never get to catch debuts because for some reason Hololive make debuts always when europe is at night, but if 3 out of 4 are europeans, why did they not moved the debuts where it's day time in europe?
Kiara talking about how CC and Liz stream late for europe is baffling to me. I'm UK which I know is an hour off from most of EU. But Kiara's usual start time has been way too early for me. I'm usually at work when she starts. Liz and CC are both perfect 7/8pm start which when I want to be watching streams. Kiara has often ended by this point or is reading superchats.
Your "main audience is NA" precisely *BECAUSE* you kept scheduling events at times utterly impossible for EU audiences! You won't see much of an audience from this part of the world if all your big events are happening at the worst possible times for them. I was already extremely happy that Justice's debuts were on Friday/Saturday US time, and not Saturday/Sunday like Advent's (which bled over into Sunday/Monday). At least that way I could justify forcing myself to be awake and watch them live without ruining a work day...
"NA is our main audience." Oh really!? Who would have thought! Honestly I am still quite salty that they debut a mostly european unit and then debut at the least EU friendly time. Ofcourse NA is the main audience when it is the middle of the fucking night for other regions!
@@Bloodstar-o7 Hopefully, but it may disgruntle the NA watchers. Sad that there was no hard commitment to the EU market as seen by the debut time and later EU hours, but I am taking the compromise anyway. A lot better than having no streams from 8 to 11pm at all.
I wait for the day until Cici and wawa have a german only stream even if I cant understand anything
It'll be funny when they confuse eachother with slight dialect differences... since one is German and the other is Austrian.
That stream would be fun for sure.
I also want Bae and Liz at the same time on stream with Americans. For the dialect differences lmao
@@myfaceismyshield5963 just wait for the China Vs Kina Vs Schina debate... that's one reason to go to war xd
Jokes on you, I speak Bratwurst!
Yes. This. Please.
Deutsch is such a beautiful language and is my favourite one.
Quite thankful that SEA gang witnessed Justice's debuts in the morning. I feel bad for anyone that wouldve had to wake up in the middle of the night for it
Their debuts happened for me at 10:00 and 10:45 pm. I couldn’t last through Gigi’s but I was able to see all three streams the next, it’s not impossible for me to stay up that late but I feel bad for anyone where it was like 1-4 in the morning that they were either debuting or the streams were near the end
Well, you should consider your life choice if you do that
Sea gang here yes I have over slept work debating to catch ERB's stream at 2 o'clock on the morning
Their debut happened at 5:00 am for me.
5am debuts suuuuuck
I'm glad Kiara finally gets some European friends to play with in the near future.
We got CC (Carbon Copy), GG (Good Game), ERB (Elden Ring Bloodbourne) and RP (Role Play).
If they collabed, it will be CCG and ERP
Sticking out your GYATT for Erizzler
You're so Raora
You're so Gigi Tax
I just wanna be your Immergreen
Wasn't she Epic Rap Battles of History?
CC can also be Crusty Crab with C instead of K
Electronic Road Pricing? We're gonna be taxed again soon huh D:
@@XiAYTb Ludokano Biboo Tax. So far, Biboo haven't create HoloJustice Rizzler song.
Epic Rap Battle
just like mangaka 4 hour sleep, 20 hours work
A brain that is a concept, just like Kiara XD
That CC stream was amazing! CC best girl (Liz i love your singing) quite inner voice!
CC?
@@AJarOfYams CC = Cecilia. sorry if you got confused. i should probably right Cici but i like using CC because of GG that is also in their group and when they had the duel stream i was like "GG and CC awesome" and the like.
CC
GG
RR
@@divingradish CC
GG
RR
FWMO
@@natethegreat8888 Thank you for the explanation. No worries, continue using it. I just confused it for Closed Caption, but CC makes sense
"They asked me how well I understood theoretical physics. I said baby, I've got a theoretical degree in physics!".
God the but why cc did bringing back trauma with kronii npc stream BUT WHYYYY
I mean Liz also said she might do an NPC stream. So that's two people
but
_WHY?_
Man I love CC
MILCC
With their current streaming times, during a workweek I can watch Kiara and Liz from holoEN, that's it! Others are either too early or too late. Of course that means that I watch some ID and JP instead.
Off topic, just noticed Cecelia and her head ornament move at different frames at the same time
As Ina would say: "Animation is hard."
You'd either have to draw and render out every single frame for the spinning key, or find a way to transition between a couple "baseline" frames in Live2D. Both of those would mean a lot of extra work for the respective person - for a minor gimmick. Giving it a lower frame rate is a good compromise.
oh that's the part when cici suddenly cut stream then came back saying "but why" then everybody does the but why :D
*Me waking up at 4AM to catch a Raora stream*
Yeah, kinda weird timezones I was hyped as an EU viewer to see their debuts but I had to stay awake til like 7 AM in the morning to fully watch their debuts.
At least they scheduled them to bleed into Saturday/Sunday our time. Advent had the second half on a Monday morning - that was much harder to justify...
Me who has been watching vtubers stream at 4 or 5am my time: it's now my morning routine.
Question: Should we tell Miss Immergreen and Princess Kiara about the Thai street market in Berlin? And should Princess Biboo received the invitation to go along with them too or not?
can't wait for Kiara to become head of HoloEU and form ANOTHER group
She's gonna be a scouter like JP's A-chan/EN's Ame
Damn its only been a day but this comment here
With cici and kiara both being German and most of the HoloJustice members being from Europe, they get along really well, which makes me look forward to a future collab stream from them
With their current streaming times, the only Justice stream I can watch live is Raora (19:00 in my zone). A little bit of Gigi (05:00, exactly the time I wake up and prep for work). CC I can catch sometimes depending on how long she streams. But Queen Lizzie I just can't catch because it's always 02:00.
New debutants have a lot to do at the beginning, and they have the pressure to make more engagement to stabilize the ccv and the subs increase
It'll all be over once they got the hang of it and can manage their day off on the schedule
damnit CC stop rewinding that trauma
Liz and CC's stream times are good, if they stream early like Kiara I'll still be at work
it did seem weird to me that what is supposed to be the eu generation didn't debut at eu friendly times. their debuts happened between 8pm-11pm na and around noon jst, i think hololive wants to keep that happy medium at least for en debuts. i definitely expect justice to change their stream times to something friendlier to them in the future though.
Meanwhile Asia bros trying to watch CC, ERB and GG: *Death by no sleep* as we have to wakeup at 3AM to 4AM to catch their streams 😂😂😂
But ey at least Raora streams at a reasonable time for us
Bae is always here for us 😌
Pemaloe: *unfazed*
@@majesticfox Pemaloe : you guys get some sleep??
I got trained by Kaela its finally paying off lets go
@@namenight7158What about Irys?
Cecilia's stream died right at "wind, wind, wind up" for most people (hence the abrupt cut) so people watching live heard a loop of her saying that over and over, and I swear I thought it was an intentional bit for a good 15 seconds.
Can’t wait for Ciara collab
Kiara is HoloEU Gen 0, HoloEN Justice is HoloEU 👏
NA prime time? lol
They debuted at 11pm east coast time on a weekend
I feel like it was JST orientated. Liz's debut went live at 1pm Saturday for me and I'm 1 hour ahead of JST.
It was targeted for JST every asian bros got to watch it while having lunch
@@Sonicsion I totally get it, but it’s such a miss when your target audience is either in bed (EU bros) or about to go to bed (NA bros)
@@hugisdb Oh for sure. It's as Kiara said: NA bros are probably the major number of views especially for EN. They could've pulled it back a few hours to say 8am or 9am JST for better coverage. Though that's probably still a rip for EU bros on their own gen😅
@@Sonicsion I watch a lot of Korean LoL and I work overnights so it’s perfect for me. But a debut during late morning NA and mid afternoon EU woulda been perfect. It’s just weird that as good as Cover is, sometimes they obsess too much on the JP market, which is odd considering how the Yen is doing atm.
Raora streams early
2:30 gwenchana ling ling ling ling...
yeah working for an organization, what is health realy. meh doesn´t matter. Sleep ruined exe. XD
Oh nyo
When I discovered 3 out of 4 them are european I literally said "why the F* did they stream at 4 and 5 am?"
I usually never get to catch debuts because for some reason Hololive make debuts always when europe is at night, but if 3 out of 4 are europeans, why did they not moved the debuts where it's day time in europe?
Butt wind?
But Raora streams in SEA prime time?
I'm almost positive she lives in the "Far East" - her good morning tweets line up with JST/SEA morning hours.
She's in Japan so she's SEA frendly
@@AdtyAzrlis that so? But her japanese isn't at that level yet where she can live there right?
@@zerohachi08 Plenty of people live in Japan without speaking any Japanese. It's not ideal but it can be done.
@@zerohachi08give her a couple of years of language immersion and lessons, she can reach conversational level in Japanese
You mean European? ( Excluding Gigi for now)
But why did you clip this moment?
You people do not expect Ze Germans to slack off or having sleep at all, do you?
Can she wind herself?
Kiara talking about how CC and Liz stream late for europe is baffling to me. I'm UK which I know is an hour off from most of EU. But Kiara's usual start time has been way too early for me. I'm usually at work when she starts. Liz and CC are both perfect 7/8pm start which when I want to be watching streams. Kiara has often ended by this point or is reading superchats.
I feel most people on mainland Europe tend to work 8 to 4 or 9 to 5, so Kiara would start at a decent time for them.
Your "main audience is NA" precisely *BECAUSE* you kept scheduling events at times utterly impossible for EU audiences! You won't see much of an audience from this part of the world if all your big events are happening at the worst possible times for them.
I was already extremely happy that Justice's debuts were on Friday/Saturday US time, and not Saturday/Sunday like Advent's (which bled over into Sunday/Monday). At least that way I could justify forcing myself to be awake and watch them live without ruining a work day...
I only managed to catch Raoras streams, rest stream too late 😢
"NA is our main audience." Oh really!? Who would have thought! Honestly I am still quite salty that they debut a mostly european unit and then debut at the least EU friendly time. Ofcourse NA is the main audience when it is the middle of the fucking night for other regions!
It's probably just temporary to introduce them to the NA audience, since they are still an EN branch. I'm sure the times will adjust.
@@Bloodstar-o7 Hopefully, but it may disgruntle the NA watchers. Sad that there was no hard commitment to the EU market as seen by the debut time and later EU hours, but I am taking the compromise anyway. A lot better than having no streams from 8 to 11pm at all.
The new opening is so high volume, omg. I prefer the old format. Cut to the chase
classic Wawa making everything all about her 🐔🐔🔥🔥 I love her so much
HUH?