This is a Beretta made in Brazil, I used one when I served in the Brazilian Marine Corps. Excellent weapon! This weapon inspired models such as the Taurus PT92, also widely used and tested here in Brazil. Very good weapons!
Does it have the PB logo on it anywhere? If it doesn't then it's kind of hard to believe that it's actually a real beretta. Taurus makes what they call the Beretta but it's not an authentic Beretta it's a clone. So my question now is given that you say It's made in brazil...... Did the Beretta company have a plant in Brazil to manufacture those? I asked because there's countless clones all over.
@@NortheastSurvival911 Beretta did have a factory in Brazil in the mid-1980s, an old contract with the Brazilian government. After closing, he sold the entire factory with equipment for taurus. As a result, the Taurus Pt line is not a clone, but a weapon produced with all Beretta equipment.
I visited the factory in 1988 when it was already a Taurus factory, but when I was a boy, maybe in 1978 or 79 I saw the name Beretta many times on that factory. It was placed on Vitor Manzini avenue, it moved to Bento Branco Ribeiro street a few years later. On the 1982 edition of Gun Digest the Taurus PT92 was present, no picture, but the gun was there. In 1981 was possible to see Beretta advertising on the brazilian edition of Playboy magazine (I just know because I saw it).
I have the same Gun. The B prefix serial number is a Brazilian made gun. Ours differ slightly as mine has an import mark and I don't have the B prefix. (Identical slide markings) From what I've read is the per-production units lacked the B prefix, which was added once normal production commenced. The Brazilian factory (built due military contract) was the first large scale production of the 92. In fact I understand the Italian plant didn't have a large commercial capacity for the model 92 production, so that they imported 92's from Brazil until they had their own machinery. (The Brazil plant got it's machinery first in order to meet the new contract demands.) My serial number is in the 10xxx range and has the original grips in very nice condition. They are a plastic y looking high gloss black. Reminds me of my Beretta model 1951. The funny thing about is is I bought my 92 today. I have a collection of Beretta's and couldn't pass it up! They are a bit of a rare bird and I confess to being a bit envious about you not having a little import mark. So goes life. ENJOY IT. s
Thank you very much for all that information. I really appreciate it! Amazing that I cannot get any information about this pistol from Beretta directly. Congratulations on your find!
Your Beretta is absolutely beautiful, I think that is the first one I have seen with the magazine release in the heel that didn't have the oversized lanyard loop on the side. The Lok grips gives it a very clean look as well
initial thoughts is that is a Brazilian made Beretta. since it looks and is configured how that era of Brazilian pre Taurus Beretta are. but with out markings? Very interesting!
That's a first for me. Very interesting. I'll second the suggestion from "tired old man" to contact Wilson. It may just be enough of a rarity to get Bill's attention.
Did you ever find a decent beretta resource? I have an AF date code 92 with the frame safety which makes it 1980 and is serial numbered about 40,000. Which is weird since by 1980 they had the 92S and had just started the 92 SB and SB compact
The pachmyer grips are the original grips. I have the same gun but inox. My beretta also just has 5 numers on the sn. No letter prefix. The box says pachmeyer grips. The pistol is fun to shoot. Enjoy it!
Not sure if its relevent here but I know CZs sold to USGIs in W Germany didnt have all the writing that imported guns had. Could this have been a PX purchased pistol?
Thank you very much for watching. I appreciate it. Some people are experiencing changes on the notification bell instead of all, it auto selects personalized. It needs to be changed back to all. Not sure if that’s the case with yours.
You could try to contact Bill Wilson, he has one of the largest collections of Beretta pistols in the world, and knows more about their history than most.
That is an excellent suggestion but what are the chances that he would give me any of his time? Thank you very much for the suggestion and for taking the time to watch. I really appreciate it.
@@MDpolo The chance may be slim, without trying the chance will be none. With around 400 Berettas in his collection his curiosity might get a response. Either way best wishes.
It has the old rounded trigger guards, no stepped slide, and a frame safety. I don't think those are original grips (later models ca 1976 had branded grips whilst the earlier ones were plain).
When you say you contacted Beretta, do you mean the USA branch or the Italian branch? Despite being the same company, I have a hunch they may respond differently At least for other big names such as Walther and HK, their home European branches operate differently from their USA branches so I'd say its worth a shot to ask both Just my two cents
If it's after the slide steps it's probably 1977-1978. I have one and I cannot for the life of me find photos online, nor can I find alot of information on it
I met the head of marketing for Beretta at the NRA Show. I spoke to her about my handgun and asked me to send her photos of it. She said she has an expert in the company that can tell me exactly what it is. I’m very eager to get a response.
@@MDpolo Do let us know, from everything ive seen its almost impossible to find someone who has a beretta model 92, anyone who has made a video about the history of them can pull every other model of the gun out their ass, even the slide stepped ones, but when it gets to the model 92 post slide step but pre 92s they say it existed, but they dont have a version of it handy.
This information is taken from a website regarding beretta. As it turns out they did have a plant in brazil. In the 1970s, Beretta also started a manufacturing plant in São Paulo, Brazil. A contract between Beretta and the Brazilian government was signed, under which Beretta produced Beretta 92s for the Brazilian Army until 1980. Later this plant was sold to Taurus, who continues to manufacture the Beretta 92 under the name of PT92 using the same tools and labour which Beretta used, without the need for a license from Beretta, since the design is based on the original Beretta 92, for which the patents have expired.[16] A Taurus Beretta 92 is not a Beretta it's an imitation made to close specs. Just throwing that out there. And lately there have been clones coming from all over the world.
Thank you very much for doing research for me. I did a follow up video called mystery solved. On January 2023, I took the gun to the NRA show and spoke to the Beretta historian and and that video I share the information he gave me.
Holy crap I have one identical and have never been able to find anything out about it, even has the same grips same features and a serial about 1k away from yours, mine on the front strap said something but was ground off and they used the grip to hide it. I can make out "SGM ATTxx" I can not make out the last two numbers/letters
I have the same gun but in the serial number i dont have B or Z its just numbers and the problem iam looking all the fking internet for someone who can desassemble the 92 beretta but every single 92 have the safety on the slide and i cant find anyone has the same gun its just new 92 but the one i have is the same as yours
This is a Beretta made in Brazil, I used one when I served in the Brazilian Marine Corps. Excellent weapon! This weapon inspired models such as the Taurus PT92, also widely used and tested here in Brazil. Very good weapons!
Thank you very much for the information. I really appreciate it!
Does it have the PB logo on it anywhere? If it doesn't then it's kind of hard to believe that it's actually a real beretta. Taurus makes what they call the Beretta but it's not an authentic Beretta it's a clone. So my question now is given that you say It's made in brazil...... Did the Beretta company have a plant in Brazil to manufacture those? I asked because there's countless clones all over.
@@NortheastSurvival911 Beretta did have a factory in Brazil in the mid-1980s, an old contract with the Brazilian government. After closing, he sold the entire factory with equipment for taurus. As a result, the Taurus Pt line is not a clone, but a weapon produced with all Beretta equipment.
I visited the factory in 1988 when it was already a Taurus factory, but when I was a boy, maybe in 1978 or 79 I saw the name Beretta many times on that factory. It was placed on Vitor Manzini avenue, it moved to Bento Branco Ribeiro street a few years later. On the 1982 edition of Gun Digest the Taurus PT92 was present, no picture, but the gun was there. In 1981 was possible to see Beretta advertising on the brazilian edition of Playboy magazine (I just know because I saw it).
I wouldn't trade that Beretta for a new 92X myself. I love the older pistols, maybe because I'm an older model😅
Im from Brasil and I have one just like this one! One of those that were sold before the Taurus age…
I have the same Gun. The B prefix serial number is a Brazilian made gun. Ours differ slightly as mine has an import mark and I don't have the B prefix. (Identical slide markings) From what I've read is the per-production units lacked the B prefix, which was added once normal production commenced. The Brazilian factory (built due military contract) was the first large scale production of the 92. In fact I understand the Italian plant didn't have a large commercial capacity for the model 92 production, so that they imported 92's from Brazil until they had their own machinery. (The Brazil plant got it's machinery first in order to meet the new contract demands.) My serial number is in the 10xxx range and has the original grips in very nice condition. They are a plastic y looking high gloss black. Reminds me of my Beretta model 1951.
The funny thing about is is I bought my 92 today. I have a collection of Beretta's and couldn't pass it up! They are a bit of a rare bird and I confess to being a bit envious about you not having a little import mark. So goes life. ENJOY IT.
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Thank you very much for all that information. I really appreciate it! Amazing that I cannot get any information about this pistol from Beretta directly. Congratulations on your find!
Your Beretta is absolutely beautiful, I think that is the first one I have seen with the magazine release in the heel that didn't have the oversized lanyard loop on the side. The Lok grips gives it a very clean look as well
Thank you!
There is the 92s which is with the european slide release too, but also the first one has it
That pistol is in very good condition for its age. Very nice.
initial thoughts is that is a Brazilian made Beretta. since it looks and is configured how that era of Brazilian pre Taurus Beretta are. but with out markings? Very interesting!
Interesting indeed! I have yet to find anybody that can tell me exactly what it is. Not even Barrera. Thank you very much for stopping by.
That's a first for me. Very interesting. I'll second the suggestion from "tired old man" to contact Wilson. It may just be enough of a rarity to get Bill's attention.
Will do. Thank you very much for watching.
I guess it’s a “ghost gun”😂😂. What you have is a Beautiful piece there.
That’s funny. Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment.
Did you ever find a decent beretta resource? I have an AF date code 92 with the frame safety which makes it 1980 and is serial numbered about 40,000. Which is weird since by 1980 they had the 92S and had just started the 92 SB and SB compact
@Jordan S I have not. Still looking for someone that can help me figure mine out.
They made the 92 up through 1982. The 92s would be 1978 1980-85. The SB 1980-85. These in the US would all be berben corp marked on the slide.
The pachmyer grips are the original grips. I have the same gun but inox. My beretta also just has 5 numers on the sn. No letter prefix. The box says pachmeyer grips. The pistol is fun to shoot. Enjoy it!
Very interesting. That’s the first time this. Thank you very much for the information.
Very Unique, had not seen that version. They did a good job on those grips.
Yes they did. LOK custom made them from photographs only. Thank you very much for watching.
I had to use a Dremel to fit the Lok grips on mine
The left panel fit just fine. It was the right panel for me that needed some adjustment.
im curious if there are markings on the barrel - any PB markings?
Nothing that I didn’t show in the video.
Not sure if its relevent here but I know CZs sold to USGIs in W Germany didnt have all the writing that imported guns had. Could this have been a PX purchased pistol?
That’s an interesting thought. I’m trying to find out the history behind it.
My first semi automatic is a 1980 model 92. Owned since 1983. Sexy pistol. Same as yours. Made from 75 to 1980.
They are pretty sexy. Thank you so much for watching!
Another video I had to go back and watch, it never appeared on my que...Great video 👍
Thank you very much for watching. I appreciate it. Some people are experiencing changes on the notification bell instead of all, it auto selects personalized. It needs to be changed back to all. Not sure if that’s the case with yours.
هل من معلومات جديده عن المسدس..... ي صديقي.. اين صنع..
After this model, the second model 92S appeared
I have a 92x and I love it.
these were the first beretta models based on the designed they used in brazil most likely the first test run guns which can make it rare
هل هذا المسدس برازيلي ام ايطالي... شكرا لك.
could be wrong but I think its the brazilian model
You could try to contact Bill Wilson, he has one of the largest collections of Beretta pistols in the world, and knows more about their history than most.
That is an excellent suggestion but what are the chances that he would give me any of his time? Thank you very much for the suggestion and for taking the time to watch. I really appreciate it.
@@MDpolo The chance may be slim, without trying the chance will be none. With around 400 Berettas in his collection his curiosity might get a response. Either way best wishes.
@@MDpolo Yankee Marshall has a big Beretta collection also. Oh wait... never mind, he don't know shit. lol.
Very true. I will reach out to him. Thank you.
😂
It has the old rounded trigger guards, no stepped slide, and a frame safety.
I don't think those are original grips (later models ca 1976 had branded grips whilst the earlier ones were plain).
You are correct. Those are not the original grips. I’ve been hunting for original grips for years with no luck. Thank you for stopping by.
When you say you contacted Beretta, do you mean the USA branch or the Italian branch?
Despite being the same company, I have a hunch they may respond differently
At least for other big names such as Walther and HK, their home European branches operate differently from their USA branches so I'd say its worth a shot to ask both
Just my two cents
Thank you very much for the suggestion, but yes. I’ve contacted both the Italian and US companies.
مرحبا ي صديقي هل عرفت اين تم صناعته
Ian at Forgotten Weapons might have some info. Nice Pistol...👍👍👍👍
Yeah, I’ve reached out to him a few times without success. I appreciate the suggestion though. Thank you very much for watching!
I have those grips but I switched to Lok Grips
Good choice!
Mine has Made in Italy. I luv it
If you didn’t want one of these after watching Lethal Weapon we can’t be friends.
Same with Die Hard aka the greatest Christmas movie ever.
@@JacksonWalter735 ABSOLUTELY!!
That is a nice pistol, wherever it was made. Hope you were able to get some more information about it.
It is very nice. As of now, no additional info. Thank you for watching.
@@MDpolo My pleasure.
Very unique gun! Definitely hang onto that one! 😲
Absolutely. Thank you very much!
If it's after the slide steps it's probably 1977-1978. I have one and I cannot for the life of me find photos online, nor can I find alot of information on it
I met the head of marketing for Beretta at the NRA Show. I spoke to her about my handgun and asked me to send her photos of it. She said she has an expert in the company that can tell me exactly what it is. I’m very eager to get a response.
@@MDpolo Do let us know, from everything ive seen its almost impossible to find someone who has a beretta model 92, anyone who has made a video about the history of them can pull every other model of the gun out their ass, even the slide stepped ones, but when it gets to the model 92 post slide step but pre 92s they say it existed, but they dont have a version of it handy.
عندي متلو صنع وان... يعني اي بلد... هل هو ايطالي
I don’t know. It doesn’t have any markings at all.
Interesting. Wish I could help, but all I can say is cool gun. Lol. I hope you get it figured out.
Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
This information is taken from a website regarding beretta. As it turns out they did have a plant in brazil.
In the 1970s, Beretta also started a manufacturing plant in São Paulo, Brazil. A contract between Beretta and the Brazilian government was signed, under which Beretta produced Beretta 92s for the Brazilian Army until 1980. Later this plant was sold to Taurus, who continues to manufacture the Beretta 92 under the name of PT92 using the same tools and labour which Beretta used, without the need for a license from Beretta, since the design is based on the original Beretta 92, for which the patents have expired.[16]
A Taurus Beretta 92 is not a Beretta it's an imitation made to close specs. Just throwing that out there.
And lately there have been clones coming from all over the world.
Thank you very much for doing research for me. I did a follow up video called mystery solved. On January 2023, I took the gun to the NRA show and spoke to the Beretta historian and and that video I share the information he gave me.
It looks like a 1st gen made to show US police. I carried one in the 80's that had been a Chicago.PD.
this Italy???
We can’t figure out where it was made.
@@MDpolo كيف يمكننا ذلك..
فتت علانترنت مكتوب انه اول نسخ بيريتا. مازلت ابحث.
هل يعرف احد صنع اي بلد هذا المسدس...
My best guess is Brazil but it has no markings anywhere.
Holy crap I have one identical and have never been able to find anything out about it, even has the same grips same features and a serial about 1k away from yours, mine on the front strap said something but was ground off and they used the grip to hide it. I can make out "SGM ATTxx" I can not make out the last two numbers/letters
That is amazing! I’m desperately trying to find where to buy the original grips but I’ve been unsuccessful so far.
@@MDpolo I think they might have been imported with these grips as mine has them as well.
I have the same gun but in the serial number i dont have B or Z its just numbers and the problem iam looking all the fking internet for someone who can desassemble the 92 beretta but every single 92 have the safety on the slide and i cant find anyone has the same gun its just new 92 but the one i have is the same as yours
I have yet to find a resource that can tell me exactly what mine is.
@@MDpolo yeah me too bro its just so weird we cant find anything about this gun
Do you have anything to trade?
I’m not understanding your question. Anything to trade for what?
I spent three hours filing the Lok grip so it could fit in my pistol
I had to do some custom work on them but now they fit like gloves.
Possibly one of those submitted for testing to the military
I have those grips
I’m searching for the original set. Can’t find them anywhere.
Made in brazil there BB on the side of the chamber that mean berretta brazil .the italian pistol PB .pietro beretta
Interesting. I’ll have to take a look at it one more time. I appreciate that!
هل هذا مسدس 🇮🇹ايطالي
او برازيلي..
I have a few extra sets of original grips.
Where did you get them?
@@MDpolo , GunBroker and eBay , and numrich . Everytime I see them I buy them. If are still looking let me know.
Please check for the proof marks on the gun, and tell us.
I have. The only proof marks are the ones shown in the video. I have also send photographs to Beretta in the US and in Italy. Not luck.
Contact Small Arms Solutions and he might be able to help you. He's very knowledgeable about Beretta firearms. Good luck ! He is on TH-cam
Thank you for the suggestion. I appreciate it.
Six numbers on the USA made Beretta ending with the letter z
Thank you very much. I made a follow up video on what I discovered.
I have the original grips
Nice. I can’t find a pair anywhere.
اعتقد انه فرنسي.
دخلت الانترنت كاتبين انو صنع فرنسي..
I really don’t think it was made in France. Thank you for stopping by.
Did you ask gun jesus