Fantasic result from the upgrade both in light quality and the slight range increase, every little helps. I have owned everry series of Golf from the Mk 1 to my current 7.5R which is standard LED headlights. Back in the days LED,s weren't avaliable so the only option was a higher power halogen replacement usually 75/85W. I first fitted these to my Mk2 GTI only to find that they didn't seem any brighter, what i found was that the incresed current draw through the cables resulted in a voltage drop at the lamp. This was in the region of 2.5 to 3 volts which grestly recuced the lamp wattage. My fix was to install slave relays switched from the high/ low beam circuit to give the full voltage direct from the battery to the lamps. With your LED upgrade the current is greatly reduced so voltage drop through the cables would be negligible. Outstanding restoration of the Golf, it looks fantastic.
Yes, a slave relay is good even if you are using the original lamps. I have changed both the high beam switch and the light switch due to the use of high power halogen lamps. Thanks for your comment☺️
The slave relay set up makes such a difference, we put the 100w bulbs in they weren’t even legal for road use. Never got pulled for them until I did the relay mod. I guess they were still under the standard brightness due to the voltage drop. Did similar mods on my bikes and it too made a difference, not that one of my bikes light was that good to start with. A lit match would have been better.
Riktigt grymma lampor!! 🤩 Jag skaffade den lite billigare varianten som heter Philips LED-HL H4 Ultinon Essential LED, de sålde ut dessa på Jula förra året, så jag köpte två kit. Monterade det ena kitet på min Twizy och blev väldigt impad över ljuset, snyggt med det blåaktiga LED-ljuset också, passar fint ihop med färgen på Twizyn 😁 Om det är som på mina 80-tals Audi-bilar, så finns det ju inga relän för ljusen, utan allt går via spaken och det är ju verkligen att föredra en mycket lägre ström genom den. Händer ofta på äldre bilar att både spak och framförallt lyktvredet smälter. Många som satte i 100W i helljuset råkade ut för det iallafall... Börjar bli svårt att få tag i sådana vred nuförtiden.
Just changing the side lights bulbs to LED on my daily driver made a very noticeable difference, will be doing this change soon as the lights are still not good compared to our new car with factory LED lights.
Fantastic video, lot of interesting and useful informations, not missing any details. I really like close up picture of led head, low beam reflector and mounting mechanism solution. Did you manage to put original rubber sealing in place? Thank you Best regards
Thank you so much😃 No, I have not put them on yet but I will actually do that today. Sounds like you watched the whole video, again thank you so much.🥰
The answer is in fact in the video itself. The number is in it. The total capacity is 55 kWh and the consumption of this car is 1.3 kWh per 10 km driven 55/1,3= 420km theoretical. So I estimate 300-350km in real life. Thanks for your question. I have to test that in the future.
If you change the high beam indicator in the instrument cluster to a blue LED, you can go a few metres further. 😊 Not plug-and-play as you have to choose a current limiting resistor to avoid the blue LED blinding you... Before it burns out. The 3 cluster illumination lamps are 1.2W each so a LED conversion on those may help. They lamps don't last more than 10 years or so anyway... Maybe LED will be better. Check the market for ready made units.
We have those in the e-Up and e-Golf, but a different brand cause that Philips had issues to fit and heat was another issue. There are only 2 manufacturers that have the right documents which you need to drive these aftermarket solutions legally in the EU. Unfortunatelly I can not remember the brand, only that our first choice Philips did not fit so well and that those were shipped back.
I think that in reality it is more like 4.5 km more range, since the DC/DC converter also has 80-90% efficiency =) Anyway, the light is much, much better =)
Road legal only for car's that on the list from Philips. At most new , not so old car's. Sorry about my bad english, I live in North Germany, nearly 58 jears old.
Oh, false advertising then?? Anyway, I will use them, but I will definitely check that up. Thanks for the info☺️👍🏻 (I understand your English perfectly👍🏻)
@@flyingtools I think you are perfectly fine. The list covers a lot of popular old cars including Golf 1 and 2. I wanted to post the link to the compatibility list but YT doens't let me. But it's easy to find on Philips web site. This conversion is getting better and better. I drove Golf 2 when I was young and still miss the car a bit.
@@flyingtools Philips is making it very hidden with the *, Osram makes it a bit more clear, its only road legal for the list of cars they provide. I hate this level of complication for led headlights, if they have the correct pattern and set at the right height it should be legal, it's also safer in my opinion.
yes, they really are. I bought them in a local car part store so sadly no link. You have to read on the box and Google it up to find a store that sell them.
Sadly I don't believe it is legal in the UK to replace a Halogen headlight bulb with a LED bulb. Some do it but switch back to OEM bulbs for inspection. It might be legal to replace the entire headlight as I have seen some Landrovers with LED headlights but I'm not sure.
lol, not legal yet in Finland.. Apparently also not compatible with any of my cars either 😂 Audi A3 8L, A4 B5 and A6 C5. Strange as there are a lot of these cars on the road and all the Golfs are approved!
i dont know. i have a renault zoe r240 and i think with a 22kwh battery light has a impact of range even it is only 1km or 3 km depending on your drive time for the entire battery charge. i mean if you are discharging your battery in 1h of drive time or in 6h can make a difference. if you have a smaller battary like from a citroen ami electric moped car it has only a 5,4 usable battary capacity and drives only 45kmh and has a advertised range from 75km and often you get exactly 75km or some times up to 90km of range. using the 800w heater has a big impact on the range. i mean yea lights are always on, on this car but the bms reports 70w idle power consumption if you only turn on the ignition if you power up the drive system it goes up to 110w only for standing still. The citroen ami uses 80wh per km, it is not the best efficiency for a 480kg vehicle but still relative efficient. i dont know how much is only the light consuming but on that scale even the light has a big impact and with better drivetrain efficiency this impact grows bigger. i mean what amount of power does a car need only for lights? i think using led makes sense even you dont use the efficient leds, the range gain is still there the citroen ami uses all led lights and i guess there are not the best one but saving only 2w per light does change nothing. in your case yea gong from 60w to just 18 makes sense but its only your headlights. changing elecrtonis like relays and other parts to more evvicent one ads up and can you bring maybe 15km in total. Especial older vehicles like yours uses extensively relays. there are other types of relays on the market tat uses solid state relays instead of the mechanical one. i dont know how much your vehicle consumes only being turned on but your can drop that number significantly without changing much only replace some parts easily like you have done with your lights
visit germany and charge on the highway for about 70 Cent instead of 8,6 cent in Sweden (home tarif is roughly 30 cent / kWh) Then you could get the money back a lot fast within 200.000 km - quite a long ride and time I bet
Let’s say that you do that ride and you have an overage speed at 65km/h then it will take +3000 hours to complete 200,000 km. That means that your leds already had burned out (Philips claims 3000h) and you need to buy new leds😅
Shame they are so dam expensive that's around 7.5A reduction in current over my 55w/60w halogen bulbs, I drive my car on sidelights on roads with streetlighting because my audio system is so hungry and every last Amp my car can produce is very precious lol.
Wow, what a difference. Nice quality headlights, didn't know they existed. For a lot of cars this is a usefull swap!
Yes i think so too.
Fantasic result from the upgrade both in light quality and the slight range increase, every little helps.
I have owned everry series of Golf from the Mk 1 to my current 7.5R which is standard LED headlights.
Back in the days LED,s weren't avaliable so the only option was a higher power halogen replacement usually 75/85W. I first fitted these to my Mk2 GTI only to find that they didn't seem any brighter, what i found was that the incresed current draw through the cables resulted in a voltage drop at the lamp. This was in the region of 2.5 to 3 volts which grestly recuced the lamp wattage. My fix was to install slave relays switched from the high/ low beam circuit to give the full voltage direct from the battery to the lamps.
With your LED upgrade the current is greatly reduced so voltage drop through the cables would be negligible.
Outstanding restoration of the Golf, it looks fantastic.
Yes, a slave relay is good even if you are using the original lamps. I have changed both the high beam switch and the light switch due to the use of high power halogen lamps. Thanks for your comment☺️
The slave relay set up makes such a difference, we put the 100w bulbs in they weren’t even legal for road use. Never got pulled for them until I did the relay mod. I guess they were still under the standard brightness due to the voltage drop. Did similar mods on my bikes and it too made a difference, not that one of my bikes light was that good to start with. A lit match would have been better.
Riktigt grymma lampor!! 🤩 Jag skaffade den lite billigare varianten som heter Philips LED-HL H4 Ultinon Essential LED, de sålde ut dessa på Jula förra året, så jag köpte två kit. Monterade det ena kitet på min Twizy och blev väldigt impad över ljuset, snyggt med det blåaktiga LED-ljuset också, passar fint ihop med färgen på Twizyn 😁
Om det är som på mina 80-tals Audi-bilar, så finns det ju inga relän för ljusen, utan allt går via spaken och det är ju verkligen att föredra en mycket lägre ström genom den. Händer ofta på äldre bilar att både spak och framförallt lyktvredet smälter. Många som satte i 100W i helljuset råkade ut för det iallafall... Börjar bli svårt att få tag i sådana vred nuförtiden.
Ja jag blev jättenöjd. Ja både helljus brytare och den vanliga ljus kontakten har man ju fått byta några gånger😅
Just changing the side lights bulbs to LED on my daily driver made a very noticeable difference, will be doing this change soon as the lights are still not good compared to our new car with factory LED lights.
Snyggt jobbat som vanligt 😎👍man kan räkna på allt😁👍
Jag jagar också watt här hemma . Bara för att det är så
Roligt 🤣 och intressant 🤔
Haha, visst är det😅👍🏻
Fantastic video,
lot of interesting and useful informations, not missing any details.
I really like close up picture of led head, low beam reflector and mounting mechanism solution.
Did you manage to put original rubber sealing in place?
Thank you
Best regards
Thank you so much😃 No, I have not put them on yet but I will actually do that today. Sounds like you watched the whole video, again thank you so much.🥰
Very good, your whole video has one question for you. What range can you make with the battery of your vehicle that you converted to electric? Thanks.
The answer is in fact in the video itself.
The number is in it.
The total capacity is 55 kWh and the consumption of this car is 1.3 kWh per 10 km driven 55/1,3= 420km theoretical.
So I estimate 300-350km in real life.
Thanks for your question.
I have to test that in the future.
@@flyingtools THANKS
If you change the high beam indicator in the instrument cluster to a blue LED, you can go a few metres further. 😊
Not plug-and-play as you have to choose a current limiting resistor to avoid the blue LED blinding you... Before it burns out.
The 3 cluster illumination lamps are 1.2W each so a LED conversion on those may help. They lamps don't last more than 10 years or so anyway... Maybe LED will be better. Check the market for ready made units.
Ha ha, yes, I have to do some calculations on that😅 thank you for your tip☺️
We have those in the e-Up and e-Golf, but a different brand cause that Philips had issues to fit and heat was another issue.
There are only 2 manufacturers that have the right documents which you need to drive these aftermarket solutions legally in the EU.
Unfortunatelly I can not remember the brand, only that our first choice Philips did not fit so well and that those were shipped back.
I use them anyway😉
I think that in reality it is more like 4.5 km more range, since the DC/DC converter also has 80-90% efficiency =)
Anyway, the light is much, much better =)
Yes you have a point there👍🏻
Great point.
Road legal only for car's that on the list from Philips. At most new , not so old car's.
Sorry about my bad english,
I live in North Germany, nearly 58 jears old.
Oh, false advertising then??
Anyway, I will use them, but I will definitely check that up.
Thanks for the info☺️👍🏻
(I understand your English perfectly👍🏻)
@@flyingtools I think you are perfectly fine. The list covers a lot of popular old cars including Golf 1 and 2. I wanted to post the link to the compatibility list but YT doens't let me. But it's easy to find on Philips web site. This conversion is getting better and better. I drove Golf 2 when I was young and still miss the car a bit.
@@flyingtools Philips is making it very hidden with the *, Osram makes it a bit more clear, its only road legal for the list of cars they provide. I hate this level of complication for led headlights, if they have the correct pattern and set at the right height it should be legal, it's also safer in my opinion.
There are even older Triumphs etc on the list so likely ok. Besides Germany is known for its over the top rules on car mods….
Bleh! No Volvo's listed on neither the Philips nor Osram list!
Sämsta ljuset jag sett på en bil, var nog Volkswagen Passat generation 1. Hade i familjen på 1990 talet.
Ja, är då reflektorerna slitna också så blir det som att köra med parkeringsljuset😅
@@flyingtools Perfekt svar. Just så. Parkeringsljus.
I have forgotten to switch the multimeter wires after measuring current and blown up the fuse 😄
It can happen to anyone 😅 Luckily it has only been at low volt 12-24v😬
Thanks for watching☺️
Oh really great and so powerful led headlights I liked it so much. Can you please give the full details of these lights and link to get these
yes, they really are. I bought them in a local car part store so sadly no link. You have to read on the box and Google it up to find a store that sell them.
i think you should adjust the high oft the light again. I seems that it is a little bit do high after changing the lights... But great work!
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@@flyingtools i know! Why is your Batterie Lamp on in your cockpit?
Sadly I don't believe it is legal in the UK to replace a Halogen headlight bulb with a LED bulb.
Some do it but switch back to OEM bulbs for inspection.
It might be legal to replace the entire headlight as I have seen some Landrovers with LED headlights but I'm not sure.
I guess you’re right and be honest I am not sure if it’s really legal here in Sweden either.
lol, not legal yet in Finland.. Apparently also not compatible with any of my cars either 😂 Audi A3 8L, A4 B5 and A6 C5.
Strange as there are a lot of these cars on the road and all the Golfs are approved!
Haha, that’s a shame. But I think it’s worth the risk.😉
However the lights are being powered from the 12 volt battery not the main battery. However, love the light quality.
The 12 V battery is being charged via a DC/DC converter from the high voltage battery.
@@flyingtools yep. Like that.
i dont know. i have a renault zoe r240 and i think with a 22kwh battery light has a impact of range even it is only 1km or 3 km depending on your drive time for the entire battery charge.
i mean if you are discharging your battery in 1h of drive time or in 6h can make a difference.
if you have a smaller battary like from a citroen ami electric moped car it has only a 5,4 usable battary capacity and drives only 45kmh and has a advertised range from 75km and often you get exactly 75km or some times up to 90km of range. using the 800w heater has a big impact on the range. i mean yea lights are always on, on this car but the bms reports 70w idle power consumption if you only turn on the ignition if you power up the drive system it goes up to 110w only for standing still. The citroen ami uses 80wh per km, it is not the best efficiency for a 480kg vehicle but still relative efficient. i dont know how much is only the light consuming but on that scale even the light has a big impact and with better drivetrain efficiency this impact grows bigger.
i mean what amount of power does a car need only for lights? i think using led makes sense even you dont use the efficient leds, the range gain is still there
the citroen ami uses all led lights and i guess there are not the best one but saving only 2w per light does change nothing. in your case yea gong from 60w to just 18 makes sense but its only your headlights. changing elecrtonis like relays and other parts to more evvicent one ads up and can you bring maybe 15km in total. Especial older vehicles like yours uses extensively relays. there are other types of relays on the market tat uses solid state relays instead of the mechanical one. i dont know how much your vehicle consumes only being turned on but your can drop that number significantly without changing much only replace some parts easily like you have done with your lights
Exactly, it’s not the range that you can achieve, it’s the time that will give you the extended range in this case.
I can’t find the 6000pro only the 5000pro…I guess it is 12w not he 18w
Ok, strange, maybe depends on which part of the world you live in.
visit germany and charge on the highway for about 70 Cent instead of 8,6 cent in Sweden (home tarif is roughly 30 cent / kWh)
Then you could get the money back a lot fast within 200.000 km - quite a long ride and time I bet
Let’s say that you do that ride and you have an overage speed at 65km/h then it will take +3000 hours to complete 200,000 km. That means that your leds already had burned out (Philips claims 3000h) and you need to buy new leds😅
Shame they are so dam expensive that's around 7.5A reduction in current over my 55w/60w halogen bulbs, I drive my car on sidelights on roads with streetlighting because my audio system is so hungry and every last Amp my car can produce is very precious lol.
Yes, they are really expensive but very efficient☺️
@@flyingtools I love the light yours produce as well, they are great, they are from a decent brand, what kind of warranty do they have?
They are road legal in lamp fixtures deisgned for LEDs, which the WV lamp fixtures are not. Be aware of that the asterisk mean.
Thank for the info.👍🏻