Hey Sam, I'm only halfway through the video, so maybe you figured this out already: % damage increase items will make Surtr 1 do even more damage. So you can use runeforged, sunder, ankh etc. to increase it. I'd love to see a video where you get his 1 stacked and then add another ~20% damage on top of it. You could get upgraded beads and basically do two 1,200 damage taps back to back.
As a Surtr-fied Surtr enjoyer, I agree that he is neglected. I feel like he would feel better if his 2 and his ult weren’t as “clunky” as they feel. He’s super fun to play but when half his kit feels slow it brings him down
Man your first game you were talking about how bad he is but I’ve been playing him in solo and I’m trash solo and I still can hang with solo laners with how strong he is. Full defense build with top damage in the game. He’s super super strong.
Surtr Really is just Nasus from League. The only issue is there's a lot less farm on the map that you can just go around smacking for stacks, so even though Nasus stacks are infinite and Surtr's aren't it's hard to fully stack Surtr. Cannoneers does seem to make it more likely though which is awesome. Can always swap out cannoneers later in a game when it stops being useful.
@xPandamon on what planet? Surtr can get a max of 1 stack per hit of his 1, Nasus can get up to 12 stacks per 1 and it stacks infinitely. I've seen Nasus 50% squishies late game with his 1 alone while I've never seen a surtr get even close to that if he's building bruiser and sometimes he can't even do that while full damage. So either you're capping or I haven't been watching league right
@@CFallescence No no you misunderstood me, I just meant that while Surtr gets one stack, it is not equal to 1 damage. Both stack similarly, but Nasus can get bonuses from monsters and champs and has no cap of course
Thanks for this one Sam! I really haven’t played much Surtr because I didn’t understand him too well. This helped a ton! Looking forward to playing him now. 🤙🏼
The problem is games are so long cause powers so low and the maps so big. Season 8 was prime. I’m with Sam I hate the power nerf and made the games so boring. Watching season 7 and 8 spl was way more exciting. Games going 20+ min with no kills is crazy
@tselacky4117 the map isn't big and pro games are generally going to have way less kills on average than casuals and it's not because of power that games go on for 30 minutes it's because comeback mechanics are op
Does golden blade allow you to stack surtr's passive faster, or is it max one stack per ability usage? Sorry if it was mentioned in the video. I was watching without sound lol.
Very interesting to me to hear the difference between the levels. At my level, which is admittedly VERY low, warriors, and especially Surtr RUN games in casual. But I also play mostly slash and joust. Interested what high level ranked players do to beat up warriors
Tanks in modes with less players and faster xp and gold gain are usually better. In Conq supports gains gold and exp really slow so they cant powerspike as fast as in other modes. Because buying 40 def is better than 40 power. For example, at 100 physical protections, you take 50% of the sheet damage from that damage type(with that a 2k health now you need 4k damage to kill the guy), where a 100 power only would increase your damage for a set amount that is limited by your abilitie scaling. So tanks just powerspike faster which for low level player is suprising and they get shit on. Remember that hunters are the best counter to tanks and mages and assasins should avoid them, also pen% is better against tanks than just flat pen.
You're spitting the hardest facts in this intro Sam, Hirez nerfs everyone with reduced damage and then chooses a handful of gods to overload with buffs. Where is the damn logic in that???
I believe when I got to 200 stacks on surtr it did 450 magical damage. Not including the tick damage that followed. However if they somehow buff it without my knowledge then I'm probably wrong
I don't think hydras would be worth it since the damage is based off of the ability damage and not the actual auto attack damage. I think Archdruids would be funnier overall since that's consistent damage.
@@CFallescence you mean as in the kills they get go towards the stacks? that could be interesting, although probably wouldn't happen often enough to really make it worth it.
@@iambeastlee well it would at least make it easier to stack, especially late game where minions can solo an archer minion at the very least or when you ult so it's not totally useless
@@CFallescence anything where you are banking on minion AI to stack for you is not going to be reliably repeatable, all it takes is 1 enemy nearby and your imp will leave the minion to fight the god instead. With the amount of damage on his 1 though, it stacking slow is much preferable anyways, so really this change making almost no difference would be preferable to any other changes to his stacking speed.
I feel like items should be more about what you get from them, like their passives and item specific things like cooldown and pen etc and less about the power they have (power items should exist mind you) and base damage should be more important but I'm also not a game dev and am very stupid
New feature called duel orb. Its a buff that drops when you get a kill in duel and if you pick it up then auto a tower it deactivates it for a few seconds
I havent played since the season of souls due to the dumb changes such as the titans fighting solo lane in conq, the dumb ghosts that spawn after you kill an enemy, and the many changes to items and gods that go against what the community wanted. I come back to check on how smite has been since and now there are weird starter items for 1v1?? Just bring back the old items at this point
I don’t know man, I think you were kinda overblowing it about the latest patch, I think most of the buffs were pretty minor. Most of them were just “same cooldown on all levels instead of scaling down”. And Cupid just got a buff to his 2, and considering he’s like the worst hunter in the game right now, that’s a bit absurd imo
Would love to see a T.I.L.T Zeus. Been a while since we last saw him
Yeah Sam. Play zeus bro
i don't think i've seen zeus being played willingly by someone that didn't main him these days
SAMDUDE, play Zeus pl0x
Hey Sam, I'm only halfway through the video, so maybe you figured this out already: % damage increase items will make Surtr 1 do even more damage. So you can use runeforged, sunder, ankh etc. to increase it. I'd love to see a video where you get his 1 stacked and then add another ~20% damage on top of it. You could get upgraded beads and basically do two 1,200 damage taps back to back.
I see my dreams of a Geb tilt video will continue
Geb tilt would be pretty fun to see
He'd drop a Geb TILT and it'll just be 0:13 seconds long
@@armintor2826some would argue that that is too long
I feel like the removal of hybrid items hurt warriors especially hard, but maybe I’m wrong
Your not
hybrid items being removed is why most conquest matches have mages in solo now
@@chasegordon4479idk men hybrid items were only good onna few aa warrior for the most part. Ability warrior are smacking hard now
@@unclientrandom5371hybrid items were used by all warriors not just Aa shifter and void was literally a main item for most if not all warriors
@@MissedTheJoke Shifter and void were never used
As a joust player i pray the day never comes where warriors get buffed. I cant sleep anymore all i see is a random warrior when i do.
Or two!! 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
They already are!
I got some bad news
This did not age well
@@zacharythomas8321 I would be even more mad if it wasnt for baka being able to out damage our dps as a full tank.
20:10 When he finally realized his math was off!!!! I was in pain for so long.
If you got Surtr 1 passive to 200 and bought Druids stone you could probably one hit someone with your one by itself.
almost a two hour TILT. Sam out here blessing us thank u king
As a Surtr-fied Surtr enjoyer, I agree that he is neglected. I feel like he would feel better if his 2 and his ult weren’t as “clunky” as they feel. He’s super fun to play but when half his kit feels slow it brings him down
I’m so early that that relic which reverses damage is still in the game
Good ol' bracer of undoing, absolutely loved it just for the frick you factor lmao
At least we now got alternate timeline for a similar vibe
@@GetSoupedSoHard somebody… call the ambulance… but not for me! ( when using the bracelet of undoing )
Man your first game you were talking about how bad he is but I’ve been playing him in solo and I’m trash solo and I still can hang with solo laners with how strong he is. Full defense build with top damage in the game. He’s super super strong.
He's not, he's early game is bananas but he falls off super hard late, and most games go late rn
@@ElDiowzer late game is actually his strongest point, if you stack his 1 you do 50% of a health bar with archdruids proc
17:50 IMAGINE WITH HYDRA
Surtr Really is just Nasus from League. The only issue is there's a lot less farm on the map that you can just go around smacking for stacks, so even though Nasus stacks are infinite and Surtr's aren't it's hard to fully stack Surtr.
Cannoneers does seem to make it more likely though which is awesome. Can always swap out cannoneers later in a game when it stops being useful.
You really don't need cannoneers, just smack the minion before executing it. You know, like Nasus does
nasus stacks faster because he doesn't only get a single stack for everything his 1 kills
@@CFallescence Both get more than one damage per stack though, the rate is the same
@xPandamon on what planet? Surtr can get a max of 1 stack per hit of his 1, Nasus can get up to 12 stacks per 1 and it stacks infinitely.
I've seen Nasus 50% squishies late game with his 1 alone while I've never seen a surtr get even close to that if he's building bruiser and sometimes he can't even do that while full damage.
So either you're capping or I haven't been watching league right
@@CFallescence No no you misunderstood me, I just meant that while Surtr gets one stack, it is not equal to 1 damage. Both stack similarly, but Nasus can get bonuses from monsters and champs and has no cap of course
Thanks for this one Sam! I really haven’t played much Surtr because I didn’t understand him too well. This helped a ton! Looking forward to playing him now. 🤙🏼
I’m half way through and it hasn’t been mentioned at all, does Hydras not work with Surtr’s 1?
I have been waiting for surtr video for so long thank you very much sir
surtr jungle seems to be doing well in my casual games, at least early to mid game conquest
The problem is games are so long cause powers so low and the maps so big. Season 8 was prime. I’m with Sam I hate the power nerf and made the games so boring. Watching season 7 and 8 spl was way more exciting. Games going 20+ min with no kills is crazy
@tselacky4117 the map isn't big and pro games are generally going to have way less kills on average than casuals and it's not because of power that games go on for 30 minutes it's because comeback mechanics are op
Sam maybe you could answer n the next video. Is dom better than excu?? For hunters
As a 3 star sure main I can confirm that that update really killed him and how fun he was to play, haven’t played him in a minute.
Is it just me or does anyone else wanna see sam do a sutr jungle video now?
Holy crap. This is a chunky vid. Thanks for the hard work, Sam
Not sure if Hydra's effects that, but if it does that would be wild.
Remember starter items that give magic damage also effect his 1
Can't build starters in duel though
Does golden blade allow you to stack surtr's passive faster, or is it max one stack per ability usage? Sorry if it was mentioned in the video. I was watching without sound lol.
It's only the one minion that you hit. The 1 wouldn't affect any of the minions that took GB damage
Dang that sucks. Thanks for telling me tho.
Oh boi almost 2hrs of my Surtr
Very interesting to me to hear the difference between the levels. At my level, which is admittedly VERY low, warriors, and especially Surtr RUN games in casual. But I also play mostly slash and joust. Interested what high level ranked players do to beat up warriors
Tanks in modes with less players and faster xp and gold gain are usually better. In Conq supports gains gold and exp really slow so they cant powerspike as fast as in other modes.
Because buying 40 def is better than 40 power. For example, at 100 physical protections, you take 50% of the sheet damage from that damage type(with that a 2k health now you need 4k damage to kill the guy), where a 100 power only would increase your damage for a set amount that is limited by your abilitie scaling.
So tanks just powerspike faster which for low level player is suprising and they get shit on.
Remember that hunters are the best counter to tanks and mages and assasins should avoid them, also pen% is better against tanks than just flat pen.
Sam ur genuinely the goat
Just wondering, if you kill multiple minions with your 1 using golden blade, will you get multiple stacks?
No, his one applies a DOT on one enemy, and when the enemy with the DOT dies Surtr gains a stack
@@gusnewberry125 Sad. Would've been a cool interaction, a broken one of course but cool anyway
Loving this new series
i honestly have been screaming HYDRAS in my head for the entirety of the tiamat fight.
I’ve never played duels, so why did the tower stop shooting him when he dove Tiamat in the first match.
TILT as Tiamat next?
I love these Sam. They are great!
finally a lore accurate representation of Surtr lmao
Would absolutely love to see a challenge vid where you play surtr in jungle and try to get all 200 stacks
I'm a tank player. I cry every day now. Kulks in solo are my 11th reason why
My favorite warrior ever since he was released good shit Sammy boy excellent video
You're spitting the hardest facts in this intro Sam, Hirez nerfs everyone with reduced damage and then chooses a handful of gods to overload with buffs. Where is the damn logic in that???
Very fun watchin you play Surtr
Amazing video bro, always a pleasure watching you play warriors. Osiris would be one I think you could last quite a while with on a T.I.L.T
I wanna see a hydras auto proc with 200 stacks on surtr! Can his 1 even proc hydras?
Hey sam, try out cerberus it got up recently and with some base pen + your 2 you do true damage
Surtr is my favourite character I’m so happy his 1 got buffed
Can you do tilt Maman next week?
Archdruid fury is a great item as well for surtyr
Surt needs a santa skin
I believe when I got to 200 stacks on surtr it did 450 magical damage. Not including the tick damage that followed. However if they somehow buff it without my knowledge then I'm probably wrong
they did, it used to do 600 from passive alone and now does 1k.
@@heqraouzi6739 Ah finally some good news for once
gettin cannoners on him is gigabrain
Now imagine maxed Surtr passive +bumbas hammer before nerf
I wonder how much damage in total surtyr 1 can do with a crit hydra
I don't think hydras would be worth it since the damage is based off of the ability damage and not the actual auto attack damage. I think Archdruids would be funnier overall since that's consistent damage.
TILT kumbha would be devastating
So Tuesday is the community’s tryhard day. Trying hard to beat you on a TILT 😂
Yo sam, you can get a free stack from the chests for your 1 if you use it before opening it. So it'll give you 2 stacks in total
You gotta put Hydra on this build!! Wow
lol its so surreal the way it feels like your actually talking to me in these vids. love ur content sam. ribbit
This god is so dam powerful
Tell someone at hi rez to make that black skin and purple sword and actual skin that was nasty looking
hydras?
they should let the minions be able to stack his 1 passive
you DO get stacks to your 1 for killing minions
@@iambeastlee I mean Surtr's minions
@@CFallescence you mean as in the kills they get go towards the stacks? that could be interesting, although probably wouldn't happen often enough to really make it worth it.
@@iambeastlee well it would at least make it easier to stack, especially late game where minions can solo an archer minion at the very least or when you ult so it's not totally useless
@@CFallescence anything where you are banking on minion AI to stack for you is not going to be reliably repeatable, all it takes is 1 enemy nearby and your imp will leave the minion to fight the god instead. With the amount of damage on his 1 though, it stacking slow is much preferable anyways, so really this change making almost no difference would be preferable to any other changes to his stacking speed.
That Hades doesn't even enjoy playing this game
Your opponents get so damn greedy for that red sometimes xd
I feel like items should be more about what you get from them, like their passives and item specific things like cooldown and pen etc and less about the power they have (power items should exist mind you) and base damage should be more important but I'm also not a game dev and am very stupid
I gave a like, here’s a comment. Thank you Sam!❤
Good heavens
please do charybdis T.I.L.T next!
Till i lose tuesday tuesday. nice
haven't seen a 2k+ dmg in one hit
200 stacks with 5 damage each is 1000 no?
Oh yep he worked it out
i like Surtr hes a good character
W vid !
How did you freeze tower without killing BDK?
New feature called duel orb. Its a buff that drops when you get a kill in duel and if you pick it up then auto a tower it deactivates it for a few seconds
I think hades killed himself in the tower to not give you the revenge kill lol.
i love TILT, please give us Nez ha it's going to be really fun.
Warriors aren't meant to tank a 3 man team worth of damage. They need to play smarter. At least as long as they can 1v1 a damager.
T.I.L.T more like T.I.F.L.I.T (Til I Feel Like It Tuesday
Surtr build - trans, breastplate of regrowth, crusher, hydras, glad shield, soul eater
I havent played since the season of souls due to the dumb changes such as the titans fighting solo lane in conq, the dumb ghosts that spawn after you kill an enemy, and the many changes to items and gods that go against what the community wanted. I come back to check on how smite has been since and now there are weird starter items for 1v1?? Just bring back the old items at this point
Love you
Very cool
200 stacks is way too many for the 1's cooldown. You can't really gain that much if you're playing serious.
hydras for burst
nvm you saw the light
SAM. I will join a custom game to get you to 200 stacks. Assuming you didn't actually get it the rest of the video xD
Archdruids on the last back would have been so interesting to see
Hate seeing warriors doing well 💯
He’s definitely played n joust and he’s good there!! I hate him. But everywhere else yeah he sucks late game
Comment for the algorithm
Letssss goooo
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I don’t know man, I think you were kinda overblowing it about the latest patch, I think most of the buffs were pretty minor. Most of them were just “same cooldown on all levels instead of scaling down”. And Cupid just got a buff to his 2, and considering he’s like the worst hunter in the game right now, that’s a bit absurd imo
Well, to be fair, tank meta is absolutely unfun and literally unplayable.
Sorry, but if I want to watch stream I open Twitch
Cool story bro
@@dynastygaming1374 of course there will a troll to comment on that
@@DmytroBogdanHe's not a troll just pointing out that your comment is pretty unnecessary
@@xPandamon that is not for you to decide.
Comment was addressed to Sam
What the problem with me streaming on both TH-cam and twitch at the same time?
tiamat and hera are not a he