I love my ASUS board but I hope for others its resolved! Timestamps: [0:00] *Start* [0:17] *Topics* [1:21] *Intro* [1:49] *ASUS Controversy* >1:50 Why people are mad at LTT >5:46 ASUS BIOS explanation >11:47 ASUS can suck at PR >18:24 How LTT handles sponsors >20:48 Has ASUS said anything publicly? >25:25 ASUS can suck at PR pt 2 >31:40 Manufacturers' reputations [38:47] *LTT Store Update* >39:13 Sticklocks [47:29] *Merch Messages 1* >47:30 LTT products in retail >49:53 Floatplane update >51:57 Dropping sponsors [56:26] *Topic 2: Google IO* >59:18 Product/Feature support >1:05:12 LTT IO stream mishaps >1:09:53 New phones >1:14:07 Unintuitive phone design [1:18:29] *Topic 3: TH-cam AD Block* >1:20:05 How do we approach this? >1:25:18 The history of TH-cam ADs >1:28:29 Too much vs not enough ADs [1:31:46] Sponsors ft Squarespace, Jumpcloud, Seasonic [1:34:18] *Merch Messages 2* >1:34:59 Dumb tech mistakes >1:36:26 Power plants >1:37:25 Virtual machines >1:40:30 Basketball shorts >1:40:53 LTX lineup >1:41:36 LTX shopping update >1:47:50 LTX volunteers >1:48:07 Sticklocks on Steamdeck [1:49:12] *Topic 4: Misfit Watches not updating* >1:50:33 What the heck! [1:53:29] *Topic 5: Badminton Woes* >1:53:30 Industrial products [2:07:20] *Topic 6: Chinese CPUs* >2:08:03 Why?!? How?!? (feat Yvonne cameo) [2:12:23] *Topic 6: Net Neutrality Fake Comments* >2:14:57 White Collar crime [2:17:11] *BOINC Update* [2:18:12] *WAN Show: After Dark* >2:18:40 How to WOW customers with a small business >2:21:08 How to self-manage >2:22:05 Do you delete videos? >2:23:33 Build review video when? >2:24:19 How to run your PC on your TV [2:25:05] *Bonus Topic: UBER CSO sentence* >2:26:22 ROG ALLY vs other handhelds >2:27:59 LTT LAB logistics >2:28:48 Sticklocks lifespan >2:29:08 LLMs for home automation >2:30:15 Linus' at home trolling >2:31:37 LTT LABs future >2:34:57 Custom chip race >2:36:26 Underage on TH-cam >2:37:57 Valve's bad behaviors >2:40:50 SysAdmin qualifications >2:42:07 Impactful apps and features >2:44:54 Small TH-camrs' growth >2:49:25 Talor Swift concert >2:53:04 How to treat your fans >3:00:00 Enjoyment in work >3:10:22 Streaming PC to Phone >3:11:04 Merch memes >3:19:08 Instant regret, turned out great >3:26:14 Responsibility for products >3:28:54 Tears of the Kingdom >3:30:38 Newly weds [3:31:14] *WAN Show: RapidFire* [3:42:00] *Outro*
thats idiotc you cant just speak from one single sample. Look at the broad range of issues ppl are having with Asus. It didnt start with the AM5 platform, remember the backwards chip on intel boards??? Asus is absolute garbage now
@3:04:24 etc.: This is pretty much it. WAN Show is our opportunity to just hang out with you guys. There's no hype, no stage play, just two people we like, hanging out and having us around.
I let ads play on my phone and on my TV and when I occasionally watch TH-cam at work, but I have an ad blocker on my personal computer which is where I watch a majority of TH-cam. I have had a two hour long concert as an ad before at work on a video, that was maybe 15 minutes long, that is the most disgusting egregious bullshit you could ever have and that’s why people use ad blocker. If it’s one or two ads before or after video, I am more than happy to let that play but when you have ads that are anything more than 5 to 10% the length of the video you’re watching that’s too much. In general, I don’t think ads should be any longer than 30 seconds to a minute long. There’s nothing worse than having headphones in and not being by my phone and getting some five minute flipping ad. Ironically, the only reason I ever even started to use an ad blocker was because of those stupid banner ads they would put up in videos, where if you click the little X to close it you lose keyboard controls to skip ahead on the video, because it technically deselect it.
Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) 00:00:00 - The Beginning 00:01:13 - Intro 00:01:51 Topic #1: ASUS Controversy 00:02:59 Sponsoring ASUS 00:03:37 Why we don't review motherboards? 00:06:33 Takeaways from calls with ASUS 00:16:04 Dismissing the legal team 00:18:22 Round 1 of secret shopping: Sponsors 00:30:27 Rating ASUS customer service 00:32:36 Logitech's reputation 00:36:13 SSD increased failures rates 00:38:47 LTT store updates 00:39:27 Stick locks 00:47:30 Merch messages 00:47:38 WAN desk pad retail release 00:49:56 Challenges Floatplane dev team overcome this week? 00:52:08 Previous relationships with sponsors 00:56:20 Topic #2: Google developer conference 01:00:15 Google Tablet 01:03:04 Google products 01:10:10 Pixel 7A build and features 01:12:58 New phone 01:18:30 Topic #3: TH-cam ad blockers experiment 01:19:02 Better way to convince people to pay for TH-cam content? 01:23:18 TH-cam premium subscription 01:31:41 Sponsors 01:34:17 Merch messages 01:34:58 Dumb tech mistake 01:36:24 Tech behind power plants 01:40:24 Basketball shorts on the menu 01:41:38 Buying products and picking up at LTX? 01:43:12 How to pre-purchase your merch at LTX 01:45:17 What about second badminton unit? 01:46:51 How to be profitable in Your gym 01:47:37 LTX Volunteers 01:48:31 Bag stick protection 01:49:18 Topic #4: Fossil discontinues support for Misfit watches 01:50:54 Drop support for a product and open source it 01:51:46 Fossil Star Wars Collaboration 01:53:01 Topic #5: Badminton Center 01:56:02 Vision handle and map update 01:56:51 Re-configuring the sensor through the cloud. 02:00:12 How would an Auto Scrubber Work? 02:07:03 Topic #6: Chinese company releases new CPU 02:08:01 Power leader rebranding millions of chips 02:11:34 Topic #7: Net neutrality 02:14:21 Net neutrality violations 02:15:35 Money at stake in net neutrality case 02:17:46 WAN Show: After Dark 02:18:45 Have any stories from the 1970s? 02:18:51 How to wow Customers 02:21:15 Advice for adjusting to change 02:23:12 How hard is it to find LTT videos? 02:23:28 Build of the Week 02:24:16 How to use my PC on my TV 20 foot HDMI cable 02:25:40 Did Uber withhold information about ex-security chief? 02:26:18 How do you compare the WinGPD4 to the Ally? 02:26:42 What's the difference between the Ally and the Steam Deck? 02:29:16 Would you trust an LLM AI with keys to your home automation? 02:30:48 What is the next big step in the lab? 02:33:10 Faraday cage and Wi-fi router 02:34:42 Why did OPPO leave the custom chip race? 02:35:21 How do you take into account users that lie about their age? 02:40:19 Systems administrator certifications 02:42:05 How to Change Your Daily Routine for the Better? 02:43:20 Why have we not made pizza in the last six months? 02:44:45 Flowplane Zero Subscribers 02:46:29 Is it worth my time to start and maintain a Patreon? 02:49:18 What's it like to go to a Taylor Swift concert? 02:56:05 The lab's goal is to make a database that you can trust 02:56:45 How to Start a Developer Job 02:59:23 Under new management 02:59:50 How to Deny Warranty Requests 03:01:50 The Trust Me Bro Guarantee 03:02:54 What aspects of your job feel like work vs fun?
@@werethless12 when? admittedly I haven't seen EVERY single LTT video, but I've never seen linus turn a blind eye to calling out a sponsor on their bs.
@@patrlim As it should be. And is what I respect about them, they seem to have found a way that they can make a good living while providing value, not just taking money from people anyway they think they can get away with.
@@dwalters98 Unfortunately too many people see things in black and white, you are with me 100% or you are against me, nuance has no place. What I like about Linus and company from what i've seen, is they are completely capable of seeing both the good and bad at the same time. Unfortunately rare, at least these days, if it hasn't always been.
I remember when EVGA sent me replacement thermal pads on a GPU that I bought pre owned without original receipt, *for free* like 4 years after the product was released. Damn I wish they were still in the market 😢
Hauppage sent me a new ir reciever for a tv card that was years old and that I bought used. I emailed them on a friday and this sbsolute legend put one in an envelope and dropped it off on his way home. Also Koss. I bought these diry cheap Porta Pro in like 2002 or something and they were great for my basic needs. Several years later I emailed them and said that if you care I'm so impressed with these holding up for four years before the padding started to break and I will certainly buy more Koss products. And they replied that padding is covered by lifetime warranty and askefd if I wanted new ones.
Thank you I see them comment so often saying stuff about other people making comments during the live where people take things that they say in totally the wrong way, and it's not like what they said was not clear either. It feels like people are being obtuse at times
Against ASUS it seems like he is getting soft. How many ASUS sponsored videos they have and compare to other brands, except dbrand. Is it just me or most builds lately are sponsored by ASUS?
@@ChannelJanis dunno for sure, but a lot of times a company will pay for multiple sponsored videos at once, instead of just a single ad spot or one video only. That may not be what's happening, but it wouldn't surprise me if it thins out in a few weeks
@@IsaacRifkin but ASUS quality issues are known for years, but nobody speaks about it. They just claim that they don't review motherboards or wifi routers, phones and so on, but their sponsored videos contain these products, that have issues. Linus claimed, he won't say anything he does not believe even in sponsored videos, but he puts these products. I believe he believes in long term big cash deals. Would be nice to know, how much each sponsor has spent on LMG lately. I would love to see them being independent from sponsors and being able to say whatever they want.
Agree. A podcast i listen to recently went over to Spotify for distribution, and all of a sudden they now have auto inserted ad reads that start in the middle of a sentence
@@MarkSmithMCS Yeah, that is the absolute worst. What’s even lousier is that even if you pay for Spotify Premium, they still serve you with those interruptions because the content creator put them in due to it being part of their sponsorship deal … you’ll be listening to a really engaging topic to then hear a sponsorship with a totally different vibe before cutting back to hear the rest of the sentence (sometimes there will be 2-3 back to back, happening in several segments throughout the show). For the most part, you can skip through them, but wow is it ever so annoying. The way they do it with LTT and WAN is honestly the best way to go about it. No constant interruptions, they usually wait to find a moment where it actually fits in with what they’re talking about, they’re usually very quick and to the point … just wish every other channel did the same.
@@5Andysalive I would hope this is what's happening behind the scenes. AMD shouldn't have to pay for chips burned by Asus. I have no idea how any of that works, but I hope.
In there latest video on this Steve from Gamers Nexus advised he reach out to AMD about this and AMD advised him that a CPU failuer cause by this Mobo issue is covered under the CPU's warrenty.
Another company I have great experiences with is Fractal Design. They're pretty damn solid in customer service, long term parts support, build quality, and communication. When their new case had a problem with the fan hub PCB, they immediately recalled everything and properly fixed it all.
When a tech company has their lawyers doing more than their engineers when a problem emerges, you’ve got a potentially irreparable problem with the company’s priorities.
It also says something about the environment. You could be a decent company but your legal budget is ballooning, not because you’re getting sued left and right, but because of ever increasing regulations.
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the WAN show. it helps my brain focus while working and it's an amazing show. I get to learn a TON of stuff from you guys as well. keep on being awesome!
The entire reason I use adblock is because I don't want to see "Hot singles in your area" ads, ads that contain viruses, ads that embed a million trackers, or have a million ads slowing down my browsing experience. If all of these issues were fixed, then sure, I'd turn off my adblock, but as it stands these ads are far too invasive, mature, extreme, and such for my tastes. I'm fine with watching your car commercial, I'm not fine with you collecting my data to sell to a broker, or giving me a virus. I'm fine with you playing a banner or two, I'm not fine with so many ads that my internet or browser performance is impacted, or the video only fits onto a 10 by 20 window. As it stands, adblockers will be forced to evolve. Like everything, this is just an arms race. TH-cam updates their scripts, adblockers become less detectable. TH-cam increases detection algorithms, adblockers become something not tied to the browser. So on and so forth ad infinitum. And if TH-cam thinks this is going to increase profits, they're wrong. It just means pirates will rip videos off TH-cam and repost them elsewhere. I know there have been instances where Lets Plays were posted to the Hub in years prior.
Don't forget crypto scam ads, phishing ads, ads that treat women like objects, shock content and gore ads. As VPNs and adblockers don't go together, I had the misfortune of seeing all of those in a span of the last 1.25 years on top of what you've mentioned. Also, a lot of ads for CP, but mostly in the comments. probably the most disturbing thing.
@AstroBlaster Do you really think TH-cam would block itself into oblivion, or do you think they would modify their behavior so that they kept profitable by keeping as many people happy as possible? I suspect the latter.
If you want me to not use adblockers, stop making ads so fricking obnoxious and numerous. If you want me to pay for premium, then improve the product instead of constantly making the platform and apps worse... They perfectly manipulated the situation to create this giant dead spot where ads are crap, but premium doesn’t feel worth it...
I feel like linus could legitimately hire a team of 2-4 people who just do secret shopper/ customer service evaluation. Have them be part of the lab or main team and get some good content out of it; simultaneously figure out a way to assign a grading and you could probably sell the seal to companies as a marketable 3rd party evaluation. Just echoing that idea from the start of the stream, haven't watched the whole thing yet. But i think it's a great idea!
Here's the thing - TH-cam is a social platform, much like an MMO is a social game. I'm reminded of an episode of Extra Credits where he mentioned being asked by a developer "How many players who aren't spending money do you expect me to pay for server capacity for?" The answer was "As many as you can get," because while features are cool, the community is what gets people to stick around. Even if you can't convert them all to paying customers (you can't), their presence encourages paying customers to stick around. Nobody wants to pay to play around on a dead platform.
Would be okay with it if they solved the glaring issues in the system. I'll never stop clicking report, eventually together we get a better experience. They should allow us to have some level of reputational clout, so the feedback actually gets results. I have been reporting obvious botnet misinformation/scam/spam threads for many years, with ZERO effect and almost no adaptation by the malicious parties. I only keep trying because I know the imbalance that exists, and that which is obvious af to me is impossible to simply replicate with code. It's the opposite situation. Novel heuristic solutions need layers of contextual data to draw from. You can see Google Research is on the cutting edge very clearly when you look. It's very easy to be impatient without details.. I would be so mad about the failings of the system, if I didn't have experiences that I could draw from ! TH-cam token ? decentralized version of TH-cam with incentive alignment could be part of the solution. You could stake your YT.. now the report system knows to prioritize analysis of your report text.. you have "SKIN IN THE GAME". A protocol on Ethereum called ERASURE (.xxx is the site) makes it obvious.. great page ! "what if you could punish bad dates?"
"ideamarket" is another thing that is coming along nicely.. anyone can understand if they try.. we are very habitual (self programming) creatures. Once we LEARN BY DOING, we get the obvious in hindsight effect. Seeing is believing is one of my favourite lines lately.. this decade will be filled with evolutionary positives ! groupthink change. 1. Make money arguing on the internet. Rate posts to express agreement or disagreement. The more your posts get rated, the more you earn. 2. Legitimize disruptive ideas in the time it takes a tweet to go viral. Crowdsource ratings on an Ideamarket post to show the world what top minds really believe about disruptive topics. 3. Proof of thought-leadership. Imagine querying the on-chain record of opinions - “Who rated [IMPORTANT THING] above [90% CONFIDENCE] at [EARLY TIME]?” Will you be on that list? Some new variant of "intellectual property" has been needed for a good while now, legal structure is so complex and inefficient ! seems obvious this would happen now someone came up with it, right ?? pretty impressive what happens when people give and see what comes from that giving. Pay it forward.. Thankfully no ads for me (yet?)
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@@WilliamOwyong Might be a good thing - if Valve can’t support the product well in those countries, then selling it there could be bad for customers and bad for their brand.
I had to RMA an MSI motherboard in 2021, I don't remember how, but somehow I ended up in contact with the US support centre (I live in India) and they helped me 1000x more than what the Indian support team did. It just reinforced my general theory that the global reputation doesn't mean anything out here.
LOL! A fellow from India getting an American on the tech support line? That's the absolute reverse of almost every customer support experience I had for the last 10 years.
1:11:34 I know LTT doesn't really do long-term phone reviews, but it'd be really interesting to see what Luke thinks of folding phones after using one for a while. Would be some real value in having someone who's good at articulating his gripes and doesn't spend a bunch of money on tech stuff randomly do a video.
I stopped buying Asus products entirely when they scammed me with a cashback promotion. Back then when 12th gen came out and their mainboards were to no surprise terribly overpriced they offered a cashback when buying a 12th gen cpu with one of their mainboards. In the Conditions of Participation they stated they could change the conditions at any time. And OH Boy they DID! At first i was supposed to get my cashback in like 2 weeks. They changed that to a month. Then after like 2 or so weeks they changed it to 6 months. And another week later they changed the conditions so i wouldn't be eligible anymore and not get my cashback at all.
I stopped buying Asus when they pushed an update to my hacked T Mobile routers to restore it to T Mobile instead of the stock Asus firmware I had installed. I understand that I was using it in a way that they didn't intend, but they went out of their way to stop people from doing it. It would have been easier, and cheaper, to not worry about it. I just wanted to try their mesh system.
@@Pyro60000 In your case they probably had to push that update because of their agreement with T-Mobile. A hacked modem (it sounds like it was a modem/router combo) can be used to bypass plan limits which is something no ISP is going to like. First I've heard of these other issues.
Really want to listen to this but saving it for work on Monday while I’m installing air flow systems in hospitals you will keep me entertained and up to date who else waits for work lol
I don’t know if you've used the internet without ad blockers recently but I have for the last like 10 years and it's just not a big deal. At least for me. And if you go on a website and get the information you want from it and that site is free and you are using an ad blocker you are an egoistic person imo
@@Fliptricksftwdude There are dishonest ads too (websites with twenty ads that spread an enticing, useless article over twenty pages - to make you refresh their ads twenty times). I don't want to give them the revenue, but other content creators; sure. I don't use AdBlockers because they use and sell your data, too, introduce vulnerabilities and don't stop the most annoying time wasting ads (usually simply hides them, but still lets you wait). It's not bad practise to protect your privacy and ads are more often than not a big threat to that privacy. The twenty aforementioned ads each have twenty different ad agencies that they sell your IP address and ad profile to, without consent. Considering the alternatives to support your favourite creators and whom the most revenue goes to otherwise, I really wouldn't hail this enemy of entertainment so.
@@Fliptricksftwdude every time I have to use a machine without Adblock is absolutely awful. You're just used to eating the shit sandwich so you can't smell it anymore.
I love how Luke and Linus are just amazed, looking at German engineering xD I dont know if that product in particular is any good, but generally Kärcher makes really high quality stuff.
@@Tsiikki the pressure washers are pretty good. Even the consumer grade (yellow) as far as I've seen. But most companies churn out a lot of shit these days so Kärcher is probably no different.
@@LucIndustries They're just horrible. Leaks everywhere. K5, K7, doesn't matter. K7 new lance is bad design, starts to leak from that small o-ring which is impossible to buy. I have it, replaced 3 lances now. 2: It advertises that it can take max 60c water. Guess what; It can't. Again, the o-rings fails. Just stay away. Many of my friends tossed their Kärchers to trash and got something else. We have very soft and clean water here, so no calcium deposits etc. Maybe the US models are different. Sorry I can't post proof on YT comments but EU models just suck.
Getting an RMA for a 9 year old PSU from Corsair was breezy. They were great. Got a brand new HX1000(i?) for my AX750i by word alone; they sent it even before they received my return. I'm going to be switching between EVGA and Corsair for my PSU needs for sure.
I could not buy the new LG ultra wide OLED monitor, as it was impossible to order from them to ship to other country and I got ping-ponged between german and latvian support teams. At the end I just ordered Corsair Flex OLED monitor on Corsairs home page and it was shipped quickly and safely to my doors. I used to look at Corsair carefully but now they are a solid choice for me.
@@ChannelJanis nice. and honesty, as much as I hate iCUE, I’d rather have peripherals all on one buggy software than on many so they might be getting my next mouse purchase too lol
I think the point is you don't have to interact with ads you can't legally be forced to watch ads or wait for them. Just means more preloaders will become more common, if you setup a automated program that loads up any subscribed channel downloading/saving its buffer for the video with ads removed until your ready to watch it thus you never see ads for your favorite channels, not counting livestreams or being able watch it right when it's uploaded.
@@nuangrobbelaar7659 ? Your logic is one step removed & thus invalid. 1stly the content is free, I don't pay or get paid for watching it, me watching an ad is not an agreed to transaction with me & youtube I have no contract with them, &if I did I'd force them into a fair contract that sees me getting half the ad money each time I watch one. Terms of service in general are boardline illegal since you can't have a good faith contract where the other party can't negotiate terms. Also you don't even need an account to watch stuff which means terms don't apply anyways for the content in the first place. 2ndly more on that last point once something is posted online "by the owner/legal publisher/hoster" with no barrier to entry that content is public domain for fair use alongside private domain for personal use. Watching something is personal use of which 99% of all legal stuff never get you into legal trouble. 3rdly Ads should be legal in the first place for all sites that aren't 18+ any place not blocked by an I'd age gate of 18+ shouldn't be allowed to advertise including TV broadcasts.
I really love the way you addressed the ASUS controversy. I've owned tons of ASUS products over the years, and while I've only needed to reach out to support a few times, I was completely blown away by their support. I bought a motherboard used that was still in warranty. It was missing a component, and I was kind of bummed about it. I reached out to support for transferring the warranty to me and asked about purchasing the missing component. They sent me it free (I think it was valued at $40 and assisted me with warranty transfer). I get the whole "get it in writing or it isn't a thing", but ASUS is a company that exceeds "their policy", even if that policy is horribly communicated, at best.
Everyone else: mad that LTT threw Asus in the dirt because Asus has been so reliable for so long. Me: always ignores Asus and buys MSI because they have a cool dragon logo and I have the brain of a child
I’ve not had a good experience with MSI when things went wrong. A new MSI motherboard didn’t boot and ruined RAM and they sent me a refurbished one that had the same issue. They refused to look at the RAM their motherboards ruined to prove it was their fault and they refused to replace it. This was at a time when 16GB of RAM cost $200. Their motherboards ruined $600 worth of RAM. The motherboards I used instead had no issues, but wouldn’t boot with any RAM modules installed in either of the MSI motherboard.
@@pfizerpricehike9747 Gigabytes software is just as bad I got a gigabyte x570 board, and a gigabyte rtx 4070 ti and their rgb softare doesnt work with the rgb in their gpu. Not to mention gigabytes version of armory crate is baked into their motherboards just like on asus boards so on my fresh install of windows i was greeted with gigabyte crap installing itself.
TH-cam lost all rights to complain about adblockers when they sold themselves to the data kraken. Adblocking is something that should be mandatory until google starts paying people for the mass amounts of data they are collecting, which is their main profit anyways considering youtube hasn't made any profit for years. Besides even if they manage to block one kind of adblock, another will crop up.
even bing shares a kickback for you. You collects points for searcehs, and with points you can buy shit. I got 100RP to league, but there's many other stuff you can get.
Honestly I think the push to develop foldable/expandable-friendly app features and usability improvements (multitasking dock, utility toolbars-sidebars, drag window-snapping, desktop-grade professional applications, etc.) will have a positive impact on non-folding Android tablets as well. As long as "Pixel Folds" exist for 6+ generations I think the continued, cohesive investments in usability for tablets are really going to pay off as well.
In RL we have limited space (like fences & roofs), so that means limited amount of Adds vs content. On the interent however, the amount of adds is growing the more of processing power various devices have. In the 90-ties and 2000, there weren't as many adds as today - simply because most devices would crash and be out of ram & cpu power (not to mention internet bandwidth). So, nowadays we have more & more adds, but the amount of content is the same. Addblocks exists to block adds - because at some point there were simply too many of them everywhere (Enough is enough). It is better to install an Addblock that takes some portion of your ram instead of allowing adds that will consume more ram & cpu. Oh, and did I mention that it is my device, so it is my ram and if something that I don't wish to be there, is there - then excessive adds behave are pretty much a bloatware / malware. It is not like people can't stand "an add" or two. People can't stand where they need to scroll down and look for content in the sea of adds. In RL amount of adds is regulated by government entities - same law should be applied for the interent adds and things should be regulated on the Interent as well. Sorry but right now there is absolutely zero control and regulations so internet websites have become an "infinity banner" for adds with limitless space. Also... Paying for having no adds or just one or two vs 100 on top of already paying your internet provider is too much for most people. It is like your can pay for a privilege to pay more.
First of all, making Yvonne walk on-screen is workplace bullying and second thing - NICELY DONE! Yvonne brought the summer into the WAN show with her presence.
Can confirm that Logitech has great customer support, I have their G915 low profile keyboard and a few months ago some of the keys stopped working. After support walked me through several troubleshooting steps, they sent me a new one free shipping and everything. Long story short, it was a bug in their current software build that corrected itself when I updated right before the new board arrived so now I have a new unopened keyboard when my current one does actually go out
I'm a technician for Karcher. That automated scrubber yall were looking at is not actually out yet- the one that docks itself for charging, cleaning, refilling. It will use proprietary software and hardware. The current autonomous stuff all use the same hardware and softwware from a company called Brain and so far Karcher has a vacuum with it, and the scrubbers are with other companies like Tennant, Ice, and Minuteman. Price range is around 100k usd. If you have any questions on how they work or anything, I can answer
When you talked about Logitech, I want to throw in that I have had my G503 mouse replaced 5 times. So great customer service, but each time it had the exact type of failure.
L&L, we enjoy watching the combination of bromance and hot take between the two of you (and Dan's sotto voce commentary, of course.) it makes ti all very entertaining, especially the _lack_ of drama between y'all. Something TV shows have yet to figure out is that many people aren't interested in watching the train wreck of interpersonal conflict that is television programming these days.
It's not the Ads in itself, it is getting forced to watch two ads pre video which timed together add about the a third extra onto the length of the TechLinked show. Some Ad lengths are disproportionate to the size of the video you are trying to watch and there is not always an skip timer
On the subject of ads as content, Jay’s ifixit ad is one I don’t skip through every time. If more sponsor spots or ads in general were interesting and not just boring corporate talking points there probably wouldn’t be so much outcry
I would rather watch that 3 times in one video, than one "random" ad targeted at me based on my location. I have outright closed videos I wanted to watch when those "random" ads came up, they frustrate me so much. Maybe I SHOULD go YT premium...
I felt guilty a few years ago about using an ad blocker, so I turned it off on TH-cam. Over the next three days or so I watch probably 40 ads for Ford Ecoline vans aimed at fleet buyers. I turned adblock back on and haven't watched an ad since. If companies are going to collect massive amounts of minutia about my tastes and preferences, they should at least be able to deliver me relevant and entertaining ads.
Thank you for *not* having mid-roll ads on WAN show. Especially on longer format videos, an ad in the middle of a topic just ticks me off and I am *much* more likely to click away and never finish that video or even watch the first 5 seconds of the ad. So, no one wins.
3:04:33 I love that Linus just now "figured out" why we love this show. The literal first ever one, wayyy before "WAN Show", was a live session made with Google *Hangouts* (nearly 11 years ago... my back hurts) I've seen every single one and the off topic tangents were always the best.
It's not about having a midroll AD, It's about having double unskippable midroll ADS at a stupidly high frequency. I watched a 17 minute video the other day with preroll, 4 double unskippable midrolls and a postroll. If the number of ads was at least REASONABLE I wouldn't care but it's almost at the point there's more ad than video sometimes
I saw the Jayz2Cents firing video of ASUS. To be fair, Jay from Jayz2cents has been having issues with ASUS on various motherboards for a while now, and this fiasco of ASUS motherboards just straight up Texas Barbequing AMD 7000 series X3D (and maybe other chips???) was the last straw with him. For what he listed that he's had to deal with, it makes sense for him to tell ASUS to go pound sand after working so long with them. I've used plenty of their products in my and my daughter's PC's over the last 15 to 20 years. And with this stink, I can't trust them. I'm still not 100 percent with MSI and Gigabyte for the immolating PCI risers and the exploding power supplies. And if what Jay said is correct about ASROCK spending time trying to fix their product lines and image, I'm probably going to go with them. My daughter is in college and my house also needs some serious $$$ repairs. I don't have the money to risk on a dodgy bet and then see if complaining to "Uncle Linus" is going to fix it. Until ASUS gets their act straight, I'm looking elsewhere.
As a data scientist for a digital marketing form, I feel like the general public is in utter denial about how much digital ads affect their behaviour as a consumer.
I agree that it's weird you got heat for the ASUS stuff.... But maybe a pinned comment when the video launched saying that you are aware of it and going to discuss it on the wan show would have helped greatly
The funny thing is, ads DON'T work, at least not how you think. They make it more difficult to find other products, rather than making it easier to find the product they're advertising. They make it harder to find anything, because you're being aggressively assaulted by ads constantly, so when you do look for something, you don't think "what's the thing that I heard about from *friend, family, coworker*", you look to magazines, websites, whatever, which are all paid promotion. It's actually a giant, complex protection racket where most of the people propping it up don't even realize what they're doing.
Good find on the Kärcher cleaner. It's a really good brand. It's well known, especially in Europe, for its robuust German engineering. I got a Kärcher pressure washer, and it is awesome. My dad always had Kärcher stuff and it never failed him either.
When you said you don’t know why people like Wan show i think i have a decent idea and really you hit the nail on the head with luke saying “it doesn’t feel like I’m working”. You guys know better than anybody if you’re enjoying making content people will enjoy watching that content 99% of the time. I can feel with other podcasts (Wan show is really a podcast at this point) they just go through the motions talk about honesty crap 90% of the time and just say really generic things. You guys present the topic and discuss in a very insightful and yet entertaining way. You can feel when content creators are making content cause that’s what their viewers want and they do it just for the paycheque. You can feel the passion from both of you discussing these topics and providing some interesting insights. Best example is when elon newly acquired Twitter a while back, most podcasts were discussing it but only surface level info anyway with any slight interest would know. But you guys presented different sides, discussing his motives for the platform, and more. Basically you guys make good content just by enjoying yourselves while also being naturally insightful and curious
There are no terms of service for someone watching TH-cam. You do not need an account to watch videos. TH-cam can try to detect things like ad blockers and prevent viewing videos, but that's it. People are under no obligation to _not_ work around such measures, since there is no agreement in place for watching videos. The only actual way to extract payment from everyone using a site is to paywall it.
Google can try all they want to stop addblockers, but there will always be ways around it. Chromium is not the only browser type and even among them not all of them are going to dump support. If people care, it really won't be all that hard to swap to firefox or Brave, or wait for a developer to find a workaround, just like bringing back the dislike button. Maybe not perfect, but google still isn't going to just be able to throw out a 'are you mad bro?"
@@derickd6150 That's what people said about piracy too and emulation, torrenting, etc are more alive than ever. Jellyfin and Plex are getting increasingly popular too.
Issue is that brave is also built on chromium. And Firefox is about 10% of web browsers. Google can just write these 10% off as cost of doing business and cut it off
@@akhiad5687 Brave can choose to support old APIs or open up new ones and that's what they are doing. Being buult off chromium isn't an issue, which is my point. This may very well also drive up use of Firefox. The point is not "how many" care, it's that we have an option to care. In the grand scope of things, most people don't use ad blockers. Just a lot do. Those people will be able to decide whether or not it matters to them. So, unlike incorrectly stated, Google isn't going to be able to force anyone to do anything they don't want to. But way to keep changing the goalposts. You work for Google or just like the taste of their schlong, by the way?
On the TH-cam/AdBlock topic, I picked up an adblock when TH-cam introduced mid-roll ads. I'm generally okay with 15 seconds of a skippable ad at the front. It's literally the mid-rolls that were the bridge too far for me, as they are actively detrimental to the content consumption experience.
Until ad servers start reviewing the ads they run before running them, until they start screening for malware and disallowing actual scams as ads? Adblock will continue to be security software - my most recommended of them all.
This whole Asus x3d issues is making me happier that I went for a 5800x3d instead of waiting... I would have gone for an Asus motherboard again and even if I wouldn't have had any issues it would still feel uncomfortable exactly because of what Linus was saying that your cpu could still be damaged in a non obvious way... So hurrah for tried and tested previous gen hardware :D
Reminder that youtube music does _not_ come with youtuube premium. It is a different interface that is optimised for music and it's publicly available for anyone.
I like to have my watch 10 minutes fast so I'm always on time. It's also good to watch people run away from you after they've asked you for the time because they think they're late 😂
They bought a bunch of those auto cleaners for every store here during vid. None of them function automated anymore, every morning before the store opens someone hops on it and drives it atound the store. Usually a manager, managment is now janitorial staff. I loved this
I received an email from the office of one my state senators back when Net Neutrality was on the line, thanking me for providing input on the matter. I had never contacted that senator's office in my entire life...
I had a similar situation with my new ASUS intel board, it was giving the INTEL i7 13700K all the juice it asked for, I had to go into the BIOS after searching the Internet for the normal TDP settings and other things and set things to more normal settings. However, dealing with ASUS customer support over their Armory program showing me having an AIO pump in Fan Xpert4 when my PC uses a Noctua Chromax NH-15 air cooler. The program hasn't been fixed yet, but they took thorough documentation and given the current stress they are under, I believe it might take them a little time to get it fixed up considering this latest problem they are dealing with.
Their software is complete and utter trash and should be flagged by any antivirus bc it fricking digs deep into your system against will Removing armory crate completely and ever file and folder generated by asus through it is a huge pain. Same with msi, They both make great hardware but the software is like not even remotely useable, it’s just utter trash
Another company that dealt with a problem fast and well was Arctic Cooler when their AIO gaskets were made from incorrect rubber and was breaking down in the fluid. They made a DYI repair kit free to product owners, as well as saying they would take the recalled AIO's back for those that were not comfortable taking a water cooler block apart and replace the faulty model.
About AD-blocking: in Italy I pay just 20 euros for unlimited connection to the internet, with fiber. I'd be happier to pay just 10 euros more per month for the ISP to distribute to all the different websites where creators publish their stuff for free and that I visit, rather than paying any single website 10 euros a month to watch perhaps something that I don't fully enjoy or follow. For example a video like this one is more of a noise while I do house chores, rather than something I watch with great attention.
Loved the first 20 seconds where linus was completely unaware he was live, and the "what, Really?" and then the slow realization hes live before jumping into the intro, idk why but that was super funny to me.
3:04:37. Yes, 100% why I watch wan show. you guys would be great to hang out with. I like the way you guys process things and banter. As someone on the spectrum, this fits me in a way that is hard to come by.
The talk of the warrantee piece of paper reminded me so much of the Tommy Boy argument on Guarantees "If you want I can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will,...,for your customers sake you might want to think about buying a quality product from me."
If they force me to watch ads on youtube I'll specifically stop watching anything LTT. If Linus is dumb enough to use the internet without ad block that's his problem, he's crazy if he thinks everyone else should too.
@@macking104 Yeah I forgot TH-cam and the bigger creators are nearing bankruptcy. Newer creators can't break through. Ad block has been completely devastating to the platform as a whole for the last decade. Oh wait...
@@Saboo8444 they aren't nearing bankruptcy, but in our exponential growth world, if they don't grow, they actually shrink relative to the rest of the world. So as more and more people block ads and Google needs greater profits, they are forced to ban ad blockers. And they will win eventually
@@derickd6150 Lol, This is completely delusional and shows a fundamental lack of understanding regarding exponential growth. Google are just fine. They absolutely won't win in the end though. Don't you think people are already working on ways around the new ad block blocker?
I actually pay for TH-cam Premium. But if TH-cam starts complaining that I have uBlock enabled on Firefox, I'll probably cancel it and put that money towards Floatplane, Nebula and whatever other hedge platforms my favorite creators are using.
I wonder if it’s been mentioned before but what would be LTTLabs retesting policy? Like with the Intel ARC graphics cards, there was (allegedly) significant performance uplift with some of their driver updates so for their databases to be “accurate”, they would have to retest and retest, at which point does the results get dropped for no longer being relevant or updated due to new circumstances/conditions. What would be their quality control control tests to determine if it’s “golden sample” or other outliers? How will their tests account for different configurations or implementations as performance may wildly differ when paired with different concomitant devices?
I have brand loyalty when it comes to LTT. They haven’t ever given me a significant reason to loose the trust I have in the quality of their products. So brand loyalty does exist. I’m a five dollar tshirt man and I own multiple LTT clothing items.
As Linus at a certain point i'd stop apologising or explaining your reasoning to idiots that still don't have any idea what LTT is and stands for. Linus has been such a good guy with his heart in the right place, its so dumb that people keep jumping to the worse conclusions every time the smallest thing happens. If you want this guy to fail or you can't stand him, go somewhere else. If anything, I simply trust Linus to do the right thing, and even if something goes wrong by mistake, he will 110% make sure its fixed and right. Stop targeting the good people of the world..
I don't want any Dan exclusives, its his fault i own a 3D printer, damn him and that P1P review *shakes fist in air* Loving the printer though so no real hate there Dan :P
I actually find text based instructions much faster than a video for how-to stuff. If nothing else TH-cam seems to force creators to add introductions, 'what's happened since the last video, ad breaks, long sections talking about stuff only tangentially related to the topic, trying to sell that person's repair service, etc., etc.
Yep. But sometimes its not the narration but the techniques you can glimpse from the person doing wathever live. Also take into consideration most yuounglings are used to video instructions not written ones. Thanks to youtube. 😅
This is one of the problems with new hardware. We always forget but it is a freaking awesome and complicated machine that can literally burn down your house! Yes it can be a problem with updates on old hardware but new hardware is always more prone to bugs and problems. That is why comercial use always go for the new-ish stuff not the new last stuff. This is just sad because I've been using Asus and Gigabyte motherboards for 20 years now and never had any problems. It will be very hard to justify my next motherboard to be Asus when I want a Gigabyte GPU for their 3y warranty. So I should just get both from Gigabyte and skip Asus this time around. This can hurt their business A LOT for years, specially going into a possible global recession.
The problem with youtube and adblocker stuff is that Google knows ads are less profitable than YT Premium even if nobody blocks ads, so they made viewing ads a terrible experience. Then when that pushed people to adblockers, suddenly they decided to block adblockers. If YT never made viewing ads such an awful experience, significantly less people would have learned about and started using adblockers. They did it to themselves and now they're mad about it. If they stopped showing 3 minutes of ads for every 3 minutes of content, maybe people wouldn't be in such a rush to seek out adblocking measures.
Prediction: If TH-cam blocks ad blockers I will be saying "bye bye Linus", I will not put money in Google's coffers. I *used* to consume Google's ads happily until they embraced the "be evil" mantra. Linus, if you want to maintain your viewers, who benefit you in other ways, *you* need to pressure TH-cam to back off. 1:26:08 You can fool yourself into thinking "yes you will watch TH-cam despite your protests", but as someone who has 100% blocked Amazon and its subsidiaries from my network at the IP level I can confidently say that I will NOT go to TH-cam or Google. Edit: fixed timestamp
I wonder how majoritary your stand up is. I am not saying your argument is not right, but even if it is, I don’t believe it represents the majority. I would love if the majority of people were consequent and stand up with these and other issues, but you just have to look arround and see it is not the case.
@@deelirious I suspect you're right, but unless people actually talk about it then it isn't made clear to both Linus and TH-cam, and other people won't even consider taking the same stand.
@@PippetWhippet I think I may have figured out what you mean. My network is my home network, not provided for others, so 5G or VPNs are irrelevant. But if I were to block Amazon for others on a network I managed it could be done by managing their access devices (desktops) to implement appropriate policies, such as no USB devices and only approved WiFi networks. But what it really gets down to it whether it is appropriate to do so for the particular environment. In my case, absolutely, I don't want Dr Evil in my network. If I were managing a bank or stock exchange network I would probably come to the same conclusion and would implement the appropriate restrictions. I have been in environments where no mobile or personal devices were permitted in the office, and all network connections were optical fibre only.
@@PippetWhippet It'll be an ongoing issue, but by the sounds of it you need tighter control of the desktop environment. Things like denying users having admin privileges, disabling USB ports for everything but keyboards and mice, no bluetooth file sharing, etc. Laptops will be a problem, especially when away from the office, but I would recommend disabling split tunneling when they VPN into the office. Phones may be OK as long as they cannot connect to any of your office resources, either through the office Wifi, or to the desktop via bluetooth, USB or Wifi. It's always a struggle, especially with end users wanting control, so the only way to achieve it is to have approval and support from management. Good luck!
I love my ASUS board but I hope for others its resolved!
Timestamps:
[0:00] *Start*
[0:17] *Topics*
[1:21] *Intro*
[1:49] *ASUS Controversy*
>1:50 Why people are mad at LTT
>5:46 ASUS BIOS explanation
>11:47 ASUS can suck at PR
>18:24 How LTT handles sponsors
>20:48 Has ASUS said anything publicly?
>25:25 ASUS can suck at PR pt 2
>31:40 Manufacturers' reputations
[38:47] *LTT Store Update*
>39:13 Sticklocks
[47:29] *Merch Messages 1*
>47:30 LTT products in retail
>49:53 Floatplane update
>51:57 Dropping sponsors
[56:26] *Topic 2: Google IO*
>59:18 Product/Feature support
>1:05:12 LTT IO stream mishaps
>1:09:53 New phones
>1:14:07 Unintuitive phone design
[1:18:29] *Topic 3: TH-cam AD Block*
>1:20:05 How do we approach this?
>1:25:18 The history of TH-cam ADs
>1:28:29 Too much vs not enough ADs
[1:31:46] Sponsors ft Squarespace, Jumpcloud, Seasonic
[1:34:18] *Merch Messages 2*
>1:34:59 Dumb tech mistakes
>1:36:26 Power plants
>1:37:25 Virtual machines
>1:40:30 Basketball shorts
>1:40:53 LTX lineup
>1:41:36 LTX shopping update
>1:47:50 LTX volunteers
>1:48:07 Sticklocks on Steamdeck
[1:49:12] *Topic 4: Misfit Watches not updating*
>1:50:33 What the heck!
[1:53:29] *Topic 5: Badminton Woes*
>1:53:30 Industrial products
[2:07:20] *Topic 6: Chinese CPUs*
>2:08:03 Why?!? How?!? (feat Yvonne cameo)
[2:12:23] *Topic 6: Net Neutrality Fake Comments*
>2:14:57 White Collar crime
[2:17:11] *BOINC Update*
[2:18:12] *WAN Show: After Dark*
>2:18:40 How to WOW customers with a small business
>2:21:08 How to self-manage
>2:22:05 Do you delete videos?
>2:23:33 Build review video when?
>2:24:19 How to run your PC on your TV
[2:25:05] *Bonus Topic: UBER CSO sentence*
>2:26:22 ROG ALLY vs other handhelds
>2:27:59 LTT LAB logistics
>2:28:48 Sticklocks lifespan
>2:29:08 LLMs for home automation
>2:30:15 Linus' at home trolling
>2:31:37 LTT LABs future
>2:34:57 Custom chip race
>2:36:26 Underage on TH-cam
>2:37:57 Valve's bad behaviors
>2:40:50 SysAdmin qualifications
>2:42:07 Impactful apps and features
>2:44:54 Small TH-camrs' growth
>2:49:25 Talor Swift concert
>2:53:04 How to treat your fans
>3:00:00 Enjoyment in work
>3:10:22 Streaming PC to Phone
>3:11:04 Merch memes
>3:19:08 Instant regret, turned out great
>3:26:14 Responsibility for products
>3:28:54 Tears of the Kingdom
>3:30:38 Newly weds
[3:31:14] *WAN Show: RapidFire*
[3:42:00] *Outro*
Thank you :)
You are the *fucking* GOAT, my dude.
To be fair, having a functional motherboard is all you can ask from it.
About the bonus topic, it was the Uber CSO, and he was sentenced to probation, not prison
thats idiotc you cant just speak from one single sample. Look at the broad range of issues ppl are having with Asus. It didnt start with the AM5 platform, remember the backwards chip on intel boards??? Asus is absolute garbage now
2:08:50 She didn't say "Hi" to the WAN show people, she said "Bye".
Big W for Ivonne.
I can't believe they won't allow us to adjust the clock on our watches. Man, these are really messed up times.
"messed up times" couldn't have said it better in this context
NICE
get out
I am more disappointed with my own head right now as it added a "ba-dum tsss" at the end of reading that 🤦🏻
Smart watches are for stupid people that much is clear lol
@3:04:24 etc.: This is pretty much it. WAN Show is our opportunity to just hang out with you guys. There's no hype, no stage play, just two people we like, hanging out and having us around.
Yup, this ^
The problem of TH-cam ads for me is that they often advertise scams or shady business/websites.
I let ads play on my phone and on my TV and when I occasionally watch TH-cam at work, but I have an ad blocker on my personal computer which is where I watch a majority of TH-cam. I have had a two hour long concert as an ad before at work on a video, that was maybe 15 minutes long, that is the most disgusting egregious bullshit you could ever have and that’s why people use ad blocker. If it’s one or two ads before or after video, I am more than happy to let that play but when you have ads that are anything more than 5 to 10% the length of the video you’re watching that’s too much. In general, I don’t think ads should be any longer than 30 seconds to a minute long. There’s nothing worse than having headphones in and not being by my phone and getting some five minute flipping ad. Ironically, the only reason I ever even started to use an ad blocker was because of those stupid banner ads they would put up in videos, where if you click the little X to close it you lose keyboard controls to skip ahead on the video, because it technically deselect it.
yes loads of scame adds. I remember constantly getting driver update bs
I prefer shady/scam ads I can laugh about over the ones my goverment uses from my taxpayer money that spreads outright lies for political benefits.
How else am I going to buy my gold and NFTs?
Meanwhile they censor and claim to be against misinformation... Should make you think.
I love Dan's commitment to be at every WAN show. 3:31:29 "[if this WAN Show hasn't ended] I will stay here till Monday"
Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe)
00:00:00 - The Beginning
00:01:13 - Intro
00:01:51 Topic #1: ASUS Controversy
00:02:59 Sponsoring ASUS
00:03:37 Why we don't review motherboards?
00:06:33 Takeaways from calls with ASUS
00:16:04 Dismissing the legal team
00:18:22 Round 1 of secret shopping: Sponsors
00:30:27 Rating ASUS customer service
00:32:36 Logitech's reputation
00:36:13 SSD increased failures rates
00:38:47 LTT store updates
00:39:27 Stick locks
00:47:30 Merch messages
00:47:38 WAN desk pad retail release
00:49:56 Challenges Floatplane dev team overcome this week?
00:52:08 Previous relationships with sponsors
00:56:20 Topic #2: Google developer conference
01:00:15 Google Tablet
01:03:04 Google products
01:10:10 Pixel 7A build and features
01:12:58 New phone
01:18:30 Topic #3: TH-cam ad blockers experiment
01:19:02 Better way to convince people to pay for TH-cam content?
01:23:18 TH-cam premium subscription
01:31:41 Sponsors
01:34:17 Merch messages
01:34:58 Dumb tech mistake
01:36:24 Tech behind power plants
01:40:24 Basketball shorts on the menu
01:41:38 Buying products and picking up at LTX?
01:43:12 How to pre-purchase your merch at LTX
01:45:17 What about second badminton unit?
01:46:51 How to be profitable in Your gym
01:47:37 LTX Volunteers
01:48:31 Bag stick protection
01:49:18 Topic #4: Fossil discontinues support for Misfit watches
01:50:54 Drop support for a product and open source it
01:51:46 Fossil Star Wars Collaboration
01:53:01 Topic #5: Badminton Center
01:56:02 Vision handle and map update
01:56:51 Re-configuring the sensor through the cloud.
02:00:12 How would an Auto Scrubber Work?
02:07:03 Topic #6: Chinese company releases new CPU
02:08:01 Power leader rebranding millions of chips
02:11:34 Topic #7: Net neutrality
02:14:21 Net neutrality violations
02:15:35 Money at stake in net neutrality case
02:17:46 WAN Show: After Dark
02:18:45 Have any stories from the 1970s?
02:18:51 How to wow Customers
02:21:15 Advice for adjusting to change
02:23:12 How hard is it to find LTT videos?
02:23:28 Build of the Week
02:24:16 How to use my PC on my TV 20 foot HDMI cable
02:25:40 Did Uber withhold information about ex-security chief?
02:26:18 How do you compare the WinGPD4 to the Ally?
02:26:42 What's the difference between the Ally and the Steam Deck?
02:29:16 Would you trust an LLM AI with keys to your home automation?
02:30:48 What is the next big step in the lab?
02:33:10 Faraday cage and Wi-fi router
02:34:42 Why did OPPO leave the custom chip race?
02:35:21 How do you take into account users that lie about their age?
02:40:19 Systems administrator certifications
02:42:05 How to Change Your Daily Routine for the Better?
02:43:20 Why have we not made pizza in the last six months?
02:44:45 Flowplane Zero Subscribers
02:46:29 Is it worth my time to start and maintain a Patreon?
02:49:18 What's it like to go to a Taylor Swift concert?
02:56:05 The lab's goal is to make a database that you can trust
02:56:45 How to Start a Developer Job
02:59:23 Under new management
02:59:50 How to Deny Warranty Requests
03:01:50 The Trust Me Bro Guarantee
03:02:54 What aspects of your job feel like work vs fun?
Only 20 minutes into the video but this is surprisingly accurate. 😮
Thank you so much! Was going crazy trying to find a specific part
The nuclear power plant in my town gives tours.
hero
What happened to the other guy?
If anything Linus is harder on his sponsors than he would be with a random other company. He holds them to a decent standard.
because he is telling people "go buy this". if the product is crap, then they feel semi-responsible
Uh huh....
So that was a straight up lie.
@@werethless12 when? admittedly I haven't seen EVERY single LTT video, but I've never seen linus turn a blind eye to calling out a sponsor on their bs.
@@patrlim As it should be. And is what I respect about them, they seem to have found a way that they can make a good living while providing value, not just taking money from people anyway they think they can get away with.
@@dwalters98 Unfortunately too many people see things in black and white, you are with me 100% or you are against me, nuance has no place. What I like about Linus and company from what i've seen, is they are completely capable of seeing both the good and bad at the same time. Unfortunately rare, at least these days, if it hasn't always been.
I remember when EVGA sent me replacement thermal pads on a GPU that I bought pre owned without original receipt, *for free* like 4 years after the product was released.
Damn I wish they were still in the market 😢
I wish they made more motherboards. Like more budget ones. I would buy them in a heartbeat
Maybe the reason why 😂
Same with my old EVGA 1070, bought used, called them and got them for free a few days later
And they are gone too 😂
Hauppage sent me a new ir reciever for a tv card that was years old and that I bought used. I emailed them on a friday and this sbsolute legend put one in an envelope and dropped it off on his way home.
Also Koss. I bought these diry cheap Porta Pro in like 2002 or something and they were great for my basic needs. Several years later I emailed them and said that if you care I'm so impressed with these holding up for four years before the padding started to break and I will certainly buy more Koss products. And they replied that padding is covered by lifetime warranty and askefd if I wanted new ones.
I don't know how good of an idea it is but it sounds cool to make a WAN show live with audiance at LTX.
aren’t they already doing that on saturday?
They have done live wan before and I think they are doing it at this year's LTX as well
4 Hours of WAN show is enough to cover the whole week of driving to work and back home, listening to it in the car.
4 hours of commute a week? Lucky you! When I had to commute it was like 12+ a week.
My commute is 15-20hours per week
@shak1ification you cant math can you?
@@zviper I'm sure they can. 2 hours of commute each way (20h/5days/2x per day) is insane.
@@zviper you really think your commute is reasonable? 😬
Man i love Linus. "i need this to go away or everything is on pause". This guy legit actually cares. 10/10 trust Mr Sebastian
Thank you I see them comment so often saying stuff about other people making comments during the live where people take things that they say in totally the wrong way, and it's not like what they said was not clear either. It feels like people are being obtuse at times
In my time seeing Linus, he actually criticises his sponsors more than most popular youtubers.
Against ASUS it seems like he is getting soft. How many ASUS sponsored videos they have and compare to other brands, except dbrand. Is it just me or most builds lately are sponsored by ASUS?
@@saphricpcgaming5182 ah I see, you're a man of culture as well.
@@ChannelJanis dunno for sure, but a lot of times a company will pay for multiple sponsored videos at once, instead of just a single ad spot or one video only.
That may not be what's happening, but it wouldn't surprise me if it thins out in a few weeks
@Janis Rocans is he? Must not have watched the Ally review
@@IsaacRifkin but ASUS quality issues are known for years, but nobody speaks about it. They just claim that they don't review motherboards or wifi routers, phones and so on, but their sponsored videos contain these products, that have issues. Linus claimed, he won't say anything he does not believe even in sponsored videos, but he puts these products. I believe he believes in long term big cash deals. Would be nice to know, how much each sponsor has spent on LMG lately.
I would love to see them being independent from sponsors and being able to say whatever they want.
I enjoy the way you guys incorporate ads into your stream. Presenting the ads yourself makes me more willing to hear/watch them.
Agree. A podcast i listen to recently went over to Spotify for distribution, and all of a sudden they now have auto inserted ad reads that start in the middle of a sentence
@@MarkSmithMCS Yeah, that is the absolute worst. What’s even lousier is that even if you pay for Spotify Premium, they still serve you with those interruptions because the content creator put them in due to it being part of their sponsorship deal … you’ll be listening to a really engaging topic to then hear a sponsorship with a totally different vibe before cutting back to hear the rest of the sentence (sometimes there will be 2-3 back to back, happening in several segments throughout the show). For the most part, you can skip through them, but wow is it ever so annoying.
The way they do it with LTT and WAN is honestly the best way to go about it. No constant interruptions, they usually wait to find a moment where it actually fits in with what they’re talking about, they’re usually very quick and to the point … just wish every other channel did the same.
Those are sponsor spots not youtube ads though.
Asus should not only be replacing the motherboards under warranty but also any burnt CPU because of this.
or AMD present them the bill for it's replacements because it's Asus' fault.
The board that should get replaced is the board of directors
The losses would be catastrophic if they did that, ain't happening.
@@5Andysalive I would hope this is what's happening behind the scenes. AMD shouldn't have to pay for chips burned by Asus. I have no idea how any of that works, but I hope.
In there latest video on this Steve from Gamers Nexus advised he reach out to AMD about this and AMD advised him that a CPU failuer cause by this Mobo issue is covered under the CPU's warrenty.
Another company I have great experiences with is Fractal Design. They're pretty damn solid in customer service, long term parts support, build quality, and communication. When their new case had a problem with the fan hub PCB, they immediately recalled everything and properly fixed it all.
When a tech company has their lawyers doing more than their engineers when a problem emerges, you’ve got a potentially irreparable problem with the company’s priorities.
Gotta protect their investors over their customers
It also says something about the environment. You could be a decent company but your legal budget is ballooning, not because you’re getting sued left and right, but because of ever increasing regulations.
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No. Lawyers keep them protected from potential litigation. Unfortunately we live in a very letigious society.
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Just wanted to say I really appreciate the WAN show. it helps my brain focus while working and it's an amazing show. I get to learn a TON of stuff from you guys as well. keep on being awesome!
The entire reason I use adblock is because I don't want to see "Hot singles in your area" ads, ads that contain viruses, ads that embed a million trackers, or have a million ads slowing down my browsing experience. If all of these issues were fixed, then sure, I'd turn off my adblock, but as it stands these ads are far too invasive, mature, extreme, and such for my tastes. I'm fine with watching your car commercial, I'm not fine with you collecting my data to sell to a broker, or giving me a virus. I'm fine with you playing a banner or two, I'm not fine with so many ads that my internet or browser performance is impacted, or the video only fits onto a 10 by 20 window.
As it stands, adblockers will be forced to evolve. Like everything, this is just an arms race. TH-cam updates their scripts, adblockers become less detectable. TH-cam increases detection algorithms, adblockers become something not tied to the browser. So on and so forth ad infinitum. And if TH-cam thinks this is going to increase profits, they're wrong. It just means pirates will rip videos off TH-cam and repost them elsewhere. I know there have been instances where Lets Plays were posted to the Hub in years prior.
Don't forget crypto scam ads, phishing ads, ads that treat women like objects, shock content and gore ads. As VPNs and adblockers don't go together, I had the misfortune of seeing all of those in a span of the last 1.25 years on top of what you've mentioned. Also, a lot of ads for CP, but mostly in the comments. probably the most disturbing thing.
Hey do you have that "Hot singles in your area" link?
@AstroBlaster Do you really think TH-cam would block itself into oblivion, or do you think they would modify their behavior so that they kept profitable by keeping as many people happy as possible? I suspect the latter.
@AstroBlaster until TH-cam stops running actual scams as ads, your over-dramatic words ring hollow.
If you want me to not use adblockers, stop making ads so fricking obnoxious and numerous. If you want me to pay for premium, then improve the product instead of constantly making the platform and apps worse... They perfectly manipulated the situation to create this giant dead spot where ads are crap, but premium doesn’t feel worth it...
I feel like linus could legitimately hire a team of 2-4 people who just do secret shopper/ customer service evaluation. Have them be part of the lab or main team and get some good content out of it; simultaneously figure out a way to assign a grading and you could probably sell the seal to companies as a marketable 3rd party evaluation. Just echoing that idea from the start of the stream, haven't watched the whole thing yet. But i think it's a great idea!
Tech Jesus, Steve on Gamers Nexus has that covered.
@@alanhonlunli companirs would be more scared if more people were doing it. And I'm all for keeping everyone honest.
Sounds like BBB.
@@AdriNox777 the bbb is low key useless for individual cases it's fine but for holding companys accountable it's meh
Here's the thing - TH-cam is a social platform, much like an MMO is a social game. I'm reminded of an episode of Extra Credits where he mentioned being asked by a developer "How many players who aren't spending money do you expect me to pay for server capacity for?" The answer was "As many as you can get," because while features are cool, the community is what gets people to stick around. Even if you can't convert them all to paying customers (you can't), their presence encourages paying customers to stick around. Nobody wants to pay to play around on a dead platform.
Would be okay with it if they solved the glaring issues in the system. I'll never stop clicking report, eventually together we get a better experience. They should allow us to have some level of reputational clout, so the feedback actually gets results. I have been reporting obvious botnet misinformation/scam/spam threads for many years, with ZERO effect and almost no adaptation by the malicious parties. I only keep trying because I know the imbalance that exists, and that which is obvious af to me is impossible to simply replicate with code. It's the opposite situation. Novel heuristic solutions need layers of contextual data to draw from. You can see Google Research is on the cutting edge very clearly when you look. It's very easy to be impatient without details.. I would be so mad about the failings of the system, if I didn't have experiences that I could draw from !
TH-cam token ? decentralized version of TH-cam with incentive alignment could be part of the solution. You could stake your YT.. now the report system knows to prioritize analysis of your report text.. you have "SKIN IN THE GAME". A protocol on Ethereum called ERASURE (.xxx is the site) makes it obvious.. great page !
"what if you could punish bad dates?"
"ideamarket" is another thing that is coming along nicely.. anyone can understand if they try.. we are very habitual (self programming) creatures. Once we LEARN BY DOING, we get the obvious in hindsight effect. Seeing is believing is one of my favourite lines lately.. this decade will be filled with evolutionary positives ! groupthink change.
1. Make money arguing on the internet. Rate posts to express agreement or disagreement. The more your posts get rated, the more you earn.
2. Legitimize disruptive ideas in the time it takes a tweet to go viral. Crowdsource ratings on an Ideamarket post to show the world what top minds really believe about disruptive topics.
3. Proof of thought-leadership. Imagine querying the on-chain record of opinions - “Who rated [IMPORTANT THING] above [90% CONFIDENCE] at [EARLY TIME]?” Will you be on that list?
Some new variant of "intellectual property" has been needed for a good while now, legal structure is so complex and inefficient ! seems obvious this would happen now someone came up with it, right ?? pretty impressive what happens when people give and see what comes from that giving. Pay it forward..
Thankfully no ads for me (yet?)
Erasure is being used for this right now:
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I can't wait for the lab to start testing product specs and claims, and put the ones who lie on blast, that would be a great series.
Valve has incredible customer service for rma on the steam deck. Even when user related damage. It's insane
@ck5071 I've had great experiences with support with my index.. Cords, controls, face gasket etc
Steam deck is still not officially available in many countries
@@WilliamOwyong Might be a good thing - if Valve can’t support the product well in those countries, then selling it there could be bad for customers and bad for their brand.
Yeah they do. I stepped on my index controller and valve sent me a replacement free. I was amazed.
@William Owyong thats not really a customer support issue though. Valve isn't that big of company in the hardware space
I had to RMA an MSI motherboard in 2021, I don't remember how, but somehow I ended up in contact with the US support centre (I live in India) and they helped me 1000x more than what the Indian support team did.
It just reinforced my general theory that the global reputation doesn't mean anything out here.
LOL! A fellow from India getting an American on the tech support line? That's the absolute reverse of almost every customer support experience I had for the last 10 years.
1:11:34 I know LTT doesn't really do long-term phone reviews, but it'd be really interesting to see what Luke thinks of folding phones after using one for a while. Would be some real value in having someone who's good at articulating his gripes and doesn't spend a bunch of money on tech stuff randomly do a video.
I watch the wan show to hear you and Luke hang out. You could literally chat about anything for 3 hours and I'd tune in.
I stopped buying Asus products entirely when they scammed me with a cashback promotion. Back then when 12th gen came out and their mainboards were to no surprise terribly overpriced they offered a cashback when buying a 12th gen cpu with one of their mainboards. In the Conditions of Participation they stated they could change the conditions at any time. And OH Boy they DID! At first i was supposed to get my cashback in like 2 weeks. They changed that to a month. Then after like 2 or so weeks they changed it to 6 months. And another week later they changed the conditions so i wouldn't be eligible anymore and not get my cashback at all.
Well that’s what I call fraud.
I stopped buying Asus when they pushed an update to my hacked T Mobile routers to restore it to T Mobile instead of the stock Asus firmware I had installed. I understand that I was using it in a way that they didn't intend, but they went out of their way to stop people from doing it. It would have been easier, and cheaper, to not worry about it. I just wanted to try their mesh system.
They did the same thing to me during the 6700k era. Frick Asus
@@Pyro60000 In your case they probably had to push that update because of their agreement with T-Mobile. A hacked modem (it sounds like it was a modem/router combo) can be used to bypass plan limits which is something no ISP is going to like.
First I've heard of these other issues.
@@grn1 It's just a regular AC1900 wifi router. No modem. AC68U with less CPU clock speed. It was unnecessary and malicious as far as I can tell.
Really want to listen to this but saving it for work on Monday while I’m installing air flow systems in hospitals you will keep me entertained and up to date who else waits for work lol
Definitely. Custodian at a major university. Brainless work requires entertainment. This show will get me through Monday.
@@Pyro60000 I’m bout to start it now I work in construction so make my list of cuts and use my earphones as ear defenders lol
Using the internet without active Ad blockers is like spending time in a mental asylum without mind numbing drugs...
A good refreshment for your drug addled brain?
I don’t know if you've used the internet without ad blockers recently but I have for the last like 10 years and it's just not a big deal. At least for me. And if you go on a website and get the information you want from it and that site is free and you are using an ad blocker you are an egoistic person imo
@@Fliptricksftwdude There are dishonest ads too (websites with twenty ads that spread an enticing, useless article over twenty pages - to make you refresh their ads twenty times). I don't want to give them the revenue, but other content creators; sure. I don't use AdBlockers because they use and sell your data, too, introduce vulnerabilities and don't stop the most annoying time wasting ads (usually simply hides them, but still lets you wait). It's not bad practise to protect your privacy and ads are more often than not a big threat to that privacy. The twenty aforementioned ads each have twenty different ad agencies that they sell your IP address and ad profile to, without consent. Considering the alternatives to support your favourite creators and whom the most revenue goes to otherwise, I really wouldn't hail this enemy of entertainment so.
I've been to asylum without the drugs, dead serious. You're better off having your wits dude, this comparison is dumb
@@Fliptricksftwdude every time I have to use a machine without Adblock is absolutely awful. You're just used to eating the shit sandwich so you can't smell it anymore.
I love how Luke and Linus are just amazed, looking at German engineering xD I dont know if that product in particular is any good, but generally Kärcher makes really high quality stuff.
Every yellow Kärcher product is shite. They used to be good..
@@Tsiikki the pressure washers are pretty good. Even the consumer grade (yellow) as far as I've seen.
But most companies churn out a lot of shit these days so Kärcher is probably no different.
@@LucIndustries They're just horrible. Leaks everywhere. K5, K7, doesn't matter. K7 new lance is bad design, starts to leak from that small o-ring which is impossible to buy. I have it, replaced 3 lances now. 2: It advertises that it can take max 60c water. Guess what; It can't. Again, the o-rings fails. Just stay away. Many of my friends tossed their Kärchers to trash and got something else. We have very soft and clean water here, so no calcium deposits etc.
Maybe the US models are different. Sorry I can't post proof on YT comments but EU models just suck.
Fun Fact: In Austria we use the company's name "Kärcher" for pressure washers. If you use a pressure washer you say "kärchern" in German
Karcher vacum the best
"abkärchern"
@@GeneralKenobi69420 And then Sarkozy spoke…
This title and thumbnail aged like fine milk.
Getting an RMA for a 9 year old PSU from Corsair was breezy. They were great. Got a brand new HX1000(i?) for my AX750i by word alone; they sent it even before they received my return. I'm going to be switching between EVGA and Corsair for my PSU needs for sure.
I could not buy the new LG ultra wide OLED monitor, as it was impossible to order from them to ship to other country and I got ping-ponged between german and latvian support teams. At the end I just ordered Corsair Flex OLED monitor on Corsairs home page and it was shipped quickly and safely to my doors. I used to look at Corsair carefully but now they are a solid choice for me.
That's pretty cool. Like this segue. To our sponsor. Seasonic.
@@ChannelJanis nice. and honesty, as much as I hate iCUE, I’d rather have peripherals all on one buggy software than on many so they might be getting my next mouse purchase too lol
I think the point is you don't have to interact with ads you can't legally be forced to watch ads or wait for them. Just means more preloaders will become more common, if you setup a automated program that loads up any subscribed channel downloading/saving its buffer for the video with ads removed until your ready to watch it thus you never see ads for your favorite channels, not counting livestreams or being able watch it right when it's uploaded.
So you just want free content? You think you’re *entitled* to people’s hard work without compensating them in any way.
@@nuangrobbelaar7659 ? Your logic is one step removed & thus invalid.
1stly the content is free, I don't pay or get paid for watching it, me watching an ad is not an agreed to transaction with me & youtube I have no contract with them, &if I did I'd force them into a fair contract that sees me getting half the ad money each time I watch one. Terms of service in general are boardline illegal since you can't have a good faith contract where the other party can't negotiate terms. Also you don't even need an account to watch stuff which means terms don't apply anyways for the content in the first place.
2ndly more on that last point once something is posted online "by the owner/legal publisher/hoster" with no barrier to entry that content is public domain for fair use alongside private domain for personal use. Watching something is personal use of which 99% of all legal stuff never get you into legal trouble.
3rdly Ads should be legal in the first place for all sites that aren't 18+ any place not blocked by an I'd age gate of 18+ shouldn't be allowed to advertise including TV broadcasts.
As predicted by techquickie, half an hour of ASUS. On point! They read your minds
Riley is a major contributing writer for the WAN show
I really love the way you addressed the ASUS controversy. I've owned tons of ASUS products over the years, and while I've only needed to reach out to support a few times, I was completely blown away by their support. I bought a motherboard used that was still in warranty. It was missing a component, and I was kind of bummed about it. I reached out to support for transferring the warranty to me and asked about purchasing the missing component. They sent me it free (I think it was valued at $40 and assisted me with warranty transfer).
I get the whole "get it in writing or it isn't a thing", but ASUS is a company that exceeds "their policy", even if that policy is horribly communicated, at best.
Everyone else: mad that LTT threw Asus in the dirt because Asus has been so reliable for so long.
Me: always ignores Asus and buys MSI because they have a cool dragon logo and I have the brain of a child
They didn't throw Asus under the bus. They just said everything is fine now since it's covered by warranty.
I’ve not had a good experience with MSI when things went wrong. A new MSI motherboard didn’t boot and ruined RAM and they sent me a refurbished one that had the same issue. They refused to look at the RAM their motherboards ruined to prove it was their fault and they refused to replace it. This was at a time when 16GB of RAM cost $200. Their motherboards ruined $600 worth of RAM. The motherboards I used instead had no issues, but wouldn’t boot with any RAM modules installed in either of the MSI motherboard.
Like asus msi makes great hardware with terrible software
Armory crate and dragon center are the 2 worst pieces of Computervirus to ever have existed
@@pfizerpricehike9747 Gigabytes software is just as bad I got a gigabyte x570 board, and a gigabyte rtx 4070 ti and their rgb softare doesnt work with the rgb in their gpu. Not to mention gigabytes version of armory crate is baked into their motherboards just like on asus boards so on my fresh install of windows i was greeted with gigabyte crap installing itself.
TH-cam lost all rights to complain about adblockers when they sold themselves to the data kraken.
Adblocking is something that should be mandatory until google starts paying people for the mass amounts of data they are collecting, which is their main profit anyways considering youtube hasn't made any profit for years.
Besides even if they manage to block one kind of adblock, another will crop up.
the argument that there is other things on the internet and youtube is right to block you. Is BS because there is no alternatives to youtube
even bing shares a kickback for you. You collects points for searcehs, and with points you can buy shit. I got 100RP to league, but there's many other stuff you can get.
Google is providing a service. How they want to monetize that service so they can sustainably keep providing it is up to them...or don't use it.
@@YoFool.1506 or just be a sane person and say fix your ad and tracker problem first. 1.2k trackers blocked. no fucking way im allowing that.
Linus: "Nothing I said was incorrect, it was just upsetting." THAT is my shirt. Make it!
The best way of “adblocking” on YT without a real adblocker nor Premium, is just having a MacBook with a touchbar. You can skip any ad right away.
Honestly I think the push to develop foldable/expandable-friendly app features and usability improvements (multitasking dock, utility toolbars-sidebars, drag window-snapping, desktop-grade professional applications, etc.) will have a positive impact on non-folding Android tablets as well.
As long as "Pixel Folds" exist for 6+ generations I think the continued, cohesive investments in usability for tablets are really going to pay off as well.
In RL we have limited space (like fences & roofs), so that means limited amount of Adds vs content. On the interent however, the amount of adds is growing the more of processing power various devices have. In the 90-ties and 2000, there weren't as many adds as today - simply because most devices would crash and be out of ram & cpu power (not to mention internet bandwidth). So, nowadays we have more & more adds, but the amount of content is the same. Addblocks exists to block adds - because at some point there were simply too many of them everywhere (Enough is enough). It is better to install an Addblock that takes some portion of your ram instead of allowing adds that will consume more ram & cpu. Oh, and did I mention that it is my device, so it is my ram and if something that I don't wish to be there, is there - then excessive adds behave are pretty much a bloatware / malware.
It is not like people can't stand "an add" or two. People can't stand where they need to scroll down and look for content in the sea of adds.
In RL amount of adds is regulated by government entities - same law should be applied for the interent adds and things should be regulated on the Interent as well. Sorry but right now there is absolutely zero control and regulations so internet websites have become an "infinity banner" for adds with limitless space.
Also... Paying for having no adds or just one or two vs 100 on top of already paying your internet provider is too much for most people. It is like your can pay for a privilege to pay more.
In this episode I learned that Linus uses two thumbs to spread it open to get it over the stick.
My face was the same as Luke's when he said this and didn't realise for a sec what he just said
First of all, making Yvonne walk on-screen is workplace bullying and second thing - NICELY DONE! Yvonne brought the summer into the WAN show with her presence.
Can confirm that Logitech has great customer support, I have their G915 low profile keyboard and a few months ago some of the keys stopped working. After support walked me through several troubleshooting steps, they sent me a new one free shipping and everything. Long story short, it was a bug in their current software build that corrected itself when I updated right before the new board arrived so now I have a new unopened keyboard when my current one does actually go out
I'm a technician for Karcher. That automated scrubber yall were looking at is not actually out yet- the one that docks itself for charging, cleaning, refilling. It will use proprietary software and hardware. The current autonomous stuff all use the same hardware and softwware from a company called Brain and so far Karcher has a vacuum with it, and the scrubbers are with other companies like Tennant, Ice, and Minuteman. Price range is around 100k usd. If you have any questions on how they work or anything, I can answer
When you talked about Logitech, I want to throw in that I have had my G503 mouse replaced 5 times. So great customer service, but each time it had the exact type of failure.
L&L, we enjoy watching the combination of bromance and hot take between the two of you (and Dan's sotto voce commentary, of course.) it makes ti all very entertaining, especially the _lack_ of drama between y'all. Something TV shows have yet to figure out is that many people aren't interested in watching the train wreck of interpersonal conflict that is television programming these days.
I love Linus's attention commitment to quality.
It's not the Ads in itself, it is getting forced to watch two ads pre video which timed together add about the a third extra onto the length of the TechLinked show. Some Ad lengths are disproportionate to the size of the video you are trying to watch and there is not always an skip timer
Yeah, seen 2 unskippable 30 sec ads for a 18sec video recently
The top comment was that this kind of advertisement should be illegal
On the subject of ads as content, Jay’s ifixit ad is one I don’t skip through every time. If more sponsor spots or ads in general were interesting and not just boring corporate talking points there probably wouldn’t be so much outcry
I would rather watch that 3 times in one video, than one "random" ad targeted at me based on my location.
I have outright closed videos I wanted to watch when those "random" ads came up, they frustrate me so much.
Maybe I SHOULD go YT premium...
@@quwarq "People from *insert your state here* should pay close attention!"
@@quwarq Nah, that money would just go to google. They don't need more money.
Please make more wan show’s
Is the most genuine experience i have found on TH-cam
I felt guilty a few years ago about using an ad blocker, so I turned it off on TH-cam. Over the next three days or so I watch probably 40 ads for Ford Ecoline vans aimed at fleet buyers. I turned adblock back on and haven't watched an ad since. If companies are going to collect massive amounts of minutia about my tastes and preferences, they should at least be able to deliver me relevant and entertaining ads.
Linus is 100% on that! That is why I watch Wan show! It makes us feel like we are right there having a conversation with you.
Goood morning everybody.
Greetings from Denmark.
Its 6.15 in the morning and my son refuses to sleep any longer.
good morning from germany. same time here. but its the neighbour who refuses to sleep. thin walls. made me wake up too...
That one person in the stream chat who mentioned that the camera wasn't level around 57:50 is my worst enemy because now I can't unsee it.
Hacksmith has an army of drones for security, Linus will have an army of roombas...
Thank you for *not* having mid-roll ads on WAN show. Especially on longer format videos, an ad in the middle of a topic just ticks me off and I am *much* more likely to click away and never finish that video or even watch the first 5 seconds of the ad. So, no one wins.
3:04:33 I love that Linus just now "figured out" why we love this show.
The literal first ever one, wayyy before "WAN Show", was a live session made with Google *Hangouts* (nearly 11 years ago... my back hurts)
I've seen every single one and the off topic tangents were always the best.
I love how Linus figured out streaming in a nutshell on how it works, spoiler alert...it's more interactive than a tv show!
It's not about having a midroll AD, It's about having double unskippable midroll ADS at a stupidly high frequency. I watched a 17 minute video the other day with preroll, 4 double unskippable midrolls and a postroll. If the number of ads was at least REASONABLE I wouldn't care but it's almost at the point there's more ad than video sometimes
I saw the Jayz2Cents firing video of ASUS. To be fair, Jay from Jayz2cents has been having issues with ASUS on various motherboards for a while now, and this fiasco of ASUS motherboards just straight up Texas Barbequing AMD 7000 series X3D (and maybe other chips???) was the last straw with him. For what he listed that he's had to deal with, it makes sense for him to tell ASUS to go pound sand after working so long with them.
I've used plenty of their products in my and my daughter's PC's over the last 15 to 20 years. And with this stink, I can't trust them. I'm still not 100 percent with MSI and Gigabyte for the immolating PCI risers and the exploding power supplies. And if what Jay said is correct about ASROCK spending time trying to fix their product lines and image, I'm probably going to go with them. My daughter is in college and my house also needs some serious $$$ repairs. I don't have the money to risk on a dodgy bet and then see if complaining to "Uncle Linus" is going to fix it. Until ASUS gets their act straight, I'm looking elsewhere.
As a data scientist for a digital marketing form, I feel like the general public is in utter denial about how much digital ads affect their behaviour as a consumer.
I agree that it's weird you got heat for the ASUS stuff.... But maybe a pinned comment when the video launched saying that you are aware of it and going to discuss it on the wan show would have helped greatly
The funny thing is, ads DON'T work, at least not how you think.
They make it more difficult to find other products, rather than making it easier to find the product they're advertising. They make it harder to find anything, because you're being aggressively assaulted by ads constantly, so when you do look for something, you don't think "what's the thing that I heard about from *friend, family, coworker*", you look to magazines, websites, whatever, which are all paid promotion.
It's actually a giant, complex protection racket where most of the people propping it up don't even realize what they're doing.
I flipping love the "Let's see how we can summon Nick again" challenge, flipping made me LOL nicely done 😂
Good find on the Kärcher cleaner. It's a really good brand. It's well known, especially in Europe, for its robuust German engineering. I got a Kärcher pressure washer, and it is awesome. My dad always had Kärcher stuff and it never failed him either.
When you said you don’t know why people like Wan show i think i have a decent idea and really you hit the nail on the head with luke saying “it doesn’t feel like I’m working”. You guys know better than anybody if you’re enjoying making content people will enjoy watching that content 99% of the time. I can feel with other podcasts (Wan show is really a podcast at this point) they just go through the motions talk about honesty crap 90% of the time and just say really generic things. You guys present the topic and discuss in a very insightful and yet entertaining way. You can feel when content creators are making content cause that’s what their viewers want and they do it just for the paycheque. You can feel the passion from both of you discussing these topics and providing some interesting insights. Best example is when elon newly acquired Twitter a while back, most podcasts were discussing it but only surface level info anyway with any slight interest would know. But you guys presented different sides, discussing his motives for the platform, and more.
Basically you guys make good content just by enjoying yourselves while also being naturally insightful and curious
I love this comment. Very different. Thoughtful. Mature.
There are no terms of service for someone watching TH-cam. You do not need an account to watch videos. TH-cam can try to detect things like ad blockers and prevent viewing videos, but that's it. People are under no obligation to _not_ work around such measures, since there is no agreement in place for watching videos.
The only actual way to extract payment from everyone using a site is to paywall it.
Google can try all they want to stop addblockers, but there will always be ways around it. Chromium is not the only browser type and even among them not all of them are going to dump support. If people care, it really won't be all that hard to swap to firefox or Brave, or wait for a developer to find a workaround, just like bringing back the dislike button. Maybe not perfect, but google still isn't going to just be able to throw out a 'are you mad bro?"
I think they will win eventually. The more people resist, the more they will be able to implement blocking certain browsers and so on
@@derickd6150 That's what people said about piracy too and emulation, torrenting, etc are more alive than ever.
Jellyfin and Plex are getting increasingly popular too.
Issue is that brave is also built on chromium. And Firefox is about 10% of web browsers. Google can just write these 10% off as cost of doing business and cut it off
@@akhiad5687 Brave can choose to support old APIs or open up new ones and that's what they are doing. Being buult off chromium isn't an issue, which is my point.
This may very well also drive up use of Firefox.
The point is not "how many" care, it's that we have an option to care. In the grand scope of things, most people don't use ad blockers. Just a lot do. Those people will be able to decide whether or not it matters to them.
So, unlike incorrectly stated, Google isn't going to be able to force anyone to do anything they don't want to.
But way to keep changing the goalposts. You work for Google or just like the taste of their schlong, by the way?
@@akhiad5687 yah, EU antitrust would not let it slide.
On the TH-cam/AdBlock topic, I picked up an adblock when TH-cam introduced mid-roll ads. I'm generally okay with 15 seconds of a skippable ad at the front. It's literally the mid-rolls that were the bridge too far for me, as they are actively detrimental to the content consumption experience.
Until ad servers start reviewing the ads they run before running them, until they start screening for malware and disallowing actual scams as ads? Adblock will continue to be security software - my most recommended of them all.
Much love for the support 🙏
This whole Asus x3d issues is making me happier that I went for a 5800x3d instead of waiting... I would have gone for an Asus motherboard again and even if I wouldn't have had any issues it would still feel uncomfortable exactly because of what Linus was saying that your cpu could still be damaged in a non obvious way... So hurrah for tried and tested previous gen hardware :D
Reminder that youtube music does _not_ come with youtuube premium. It is a different interface that is optimised for music and it's publicly available for anyone.
I like to have my watch 10 minutes fast so I'm always on time.
It's also good to watch people run away from you after they've asked you for the time because they think they're late 😂
Lmaoooo that's evil
They bought a bunch of those auto cleaners for every store here during vid. None of them function automated anymore, every morning before the store opens someone hops on it and drives it atound the store. Usually a manager, managment is now janitorial staff. I loved this
I love corporate greed also.
Jensen needs a new mega yacht!
We need a 4090 Titan 4GB GPU
I received an email from the office of one my state senators back when Net Neutrality was on the line, thanking me for providing input on the matter. I had never contacted that senator's office in my entire life...
I had a similar situation with my new ASUS intel board, it was giving the INTEL i7 13700K all the juice it asked for, I had to go into the BIOS after searching the Internet for the normal TDP settings and other things and set things to more normal settings. However, dealing with ASUS customer support over their Armory program showing me having an AIO pump in Fan Xpert4 when my PC uses a Noctua Chromax NH-15 air cooler. The program hasn't been fixed yet, but they took thorough documentation and given the current stress they are under, I believe it might take them a little time to get it fixed up considering this latest problem they are dealing with.
Their software is complete and utter trash and should be flagged by any antivirus bc it fricking digs deep into your system against will
Removing armory crate completely and ever file and folder generated by asus through it is a huge pain.
Same with msi, They both make great hardware but the software is like not even remotely useable, it’s just utter trash
Another company that dealt with a problem fast and well was Arctic Cooler when their AIO gaskets were made from incorrect rubber and was breaking down in the fluid. They made a DYI repair kit free to product owners, as well as saying they would take the recalled AIO's back for those that were not comfortable taking a water cooler block apart and replace the faulty model.
ive never dealt with asus customer support but ive had nothing but trouble or frustration on ever asus motherboard ive dealt with
About AD-blocking: in Italy I pay just 20 euros for unlimited connection to the internet, with fiber. I'd be happier to pay just 10 euros more per month for the ISP to distribute to all the different websites where creators publish their stuff for free and that I visit, rather than paying any single website 10 euros a month to watch perhaps something that I don't fully enjoy or follow. For example a video like this one is more of a noise while I do house chores, rather than something I watch with great attention.
Loved the first 20 seconds where linus was completely unaware he was live, and the "what, Really?" and then the slow realization hes live before jumping into the intro, idk why but that was super funny to me.
If "DLL" is supposed to be produced as "Dale", then "LLD" should be pronounced at "Lloyd".
kinda happy to see we are back to the 3 hour wan shows lol it was actually getting impossible to watch in one day xD
this aged well
3:04:37. Yes, 100% why I watch wan show. you guys would be great to hang out with. I like the way you guys process things and banter. As someone on the spectrum, this fits me in a way that is hard to come by.
Google just modifies Exynos chips for their Tensor chips
The talk of the warrantee piece of paper reminded me so much of the Tommy Boy argument on Guarantees "If you want I can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will,...,for your customers sake you might want to think about buying a quality product from me."
If they force me to watch ads on youtube I'll specifically stop watching anything LTT. If Linus is dumb enough to use the internet without ad block that's his problem, he's crazy if he thinks everyone else should too.
if companies dont make money how can they stay in business? answer using peer reviewed published references that are behind paywalls.
@@macking104 Yeah I forgot TH-cam and the bigger creators are nearing bankruptcy. Newer creators can't break through. Ad block has been completely devastating to the platform as a whole for the last decade. Oh wait...
@@Saboo8444 they aren't nearing bankruptcy, but in our exponential growth world, if they don't grow, they actually shrink relative to the rest of the world. So as more and more people block ads and Google needs greater profits, they are forced to ban ad blockers. And they will win eventually
@@derickd6150 Lol, This is completely delusional and shows a fundamental lack of understanding regarding exponential growth. Google are just fine. They absolutely won't win in the end though. Don't you think people are already working on ways around the new ad block blocker?
I actually pay for TH-cam Premium. But if TH-cam starts complaining that I have uBlock enabled on Firefox, I'll probably cancel it and put that money towards Floatplane, Nebula and whatever other hedge platforms my favorite creators are using.
WAN show is a nice hangout. merch messages make sense.
I wonder if it’s been mentioned before but what would be LTTLabs retesting policy? Like with the Intel ARC graphics cards, there was (allegedly) significant performance uplift with some of their driver updates so for their databases to be “accurate”, they would have to retest and retest, at which point does the results get dropped for no longer being relevant or updated due to new circumstances/conditions. What would be their quality control control tests to determine if it’s “golden sample” or other outliers? How will their tests account for different configurations or implementations as performance may wildly differ when paired with different concomitant devices?
Opportunity cost is such a key concept to learn.
I have brand loyalty when it comes to LTT. They haven’t ever given me a significant reason to loose the trust I have in the quality of their products. So brand loyalty does exist. I’m a five dollar tshirt man and I own multiple LTT clothing items.
As Linus at a certain point i'd stop apologising or explaining your reasoning to idiots that still don't have any idea what LTT is and stands for. Linus has been such a good guy with his heart in the right place, its so dumb that people keep jumping to the worse conclusions every time the smallest thing happens. If you want this guy to fail or you can't stand him, go somewhere else. If anything, I simply trust Linus to do the right thing, and even if something goes wrong by mistake, he will 110% make sure its fixed and right. Stop targeting the good people of the world..
I don't want any Dan exclusives, its his fault i own a 3D printer, damn him and that P1P review *shakes fist in air*
Loving the printer though so no real hate there Dan :P
I actually find text based instructions much faster than a video for how-to stuff.
If nothing else TH-cam seems to force creators to add introductions, 'what's happened since the last video, ad breaks, long sections talking about stuff only tangentially related to the topic, trying to sell that person's repair service, etc., etc.
Yep. But sometimes its not the narration but the techniques you can glimpse from the person doing wathever live. Also take into consideration most yuounglings are used to video instructions not written ones. Thanks to youtube. 😅
This is one of the problems with new hardware. We always forget but it is a freaking awesome and complicated machine that can literally burn down your house! Yes it can be a problem with updates on old hardware but new hardware is always more prone to bugs and problems. That is why comercial use always go for the new-ish stuff not the new last stuff.
This is just sad because I've been using Asus and Gigabyte motherboards for 20 years now and never had any problems.
It will be very hard to justify my next motherboard to be Asus when I want a Gigabyte GPU for their 3y warranty. So I should just get both from Gigabyte and skip Asus this time around.
This can hurt their business A LOT for years, specially going into a possible global recession.
The problem with youtube and adblocker stuff is that Google knows ads are less profitable than YT Premium even if nobody blocks ads, so they made viewing ads a terrible experience. Then when that pushed people to adblockers, suddenly they decided to block adblockers. If YT never made viewing ads such an awful experience, significantly less people would have learned about and started using adblockers. They did it to themselves and now they're mad about it.
If they stopped showing 3 minutes of ads for every 3 minutes of content, maybe people wouldn't be in such a rush to seek out adblocking measures.
Prediction: If TH-cam blocks ad blockers I will be saying "bye bye Linus", I will not put money in Google's coffers. I *used* to consume Google's ads happily until they embraced the "be evil" mantra.
Linus, if you want to maintain your viewers, who benefit you in other ways, *you* need to pressure TH-cam to back off. 1:26:08 You can fool yourself into thinking "yes you will watch TH-cam despite your protests", but as someone who has 100% blocked Amazon and its subsidiaries from my network at the IP level I can confidently say that I will NOT go to TH-cam or Google.
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I wonder how majoritary your stand up is. I am not saying your argument is not right, but even if it is, I don’t believe it represents the majority. I would love if the majority of people were consequent and stand up with these and other issues, but you just have to look arround and see it is not the case.
@@deelirious I suspect you're right, but unless people actually talk about it then it isn't made clear to both Linus and TH-cam, and other people won't even consider taking the same stand.
@@PippetWhippet I don't understand your question. 5G or VPNs have nothing to do with blocking ads, or circumventing ad blocking technology...
@@PippetWhippet I think I may have figured out what you mean. My network is my home network, not provided for others, so 5G or VPNs are irrelevant. But if I were to block Amazon for others on a network I managed it could be done by managing their access devices (desktops) to implement appropriate policies, such as no USB devices and only approved WiFi networks.
But what it really gets down to it whether it is appropriate to do so for the particular environment. In my case, absolutely, I don't want Dr Evil in my network. If I were managing a bank or stock exchange network I would probably come to the same conclusion and would implement the appropriate restrictions.
I have been in environments where no mobile or personal devices were permitted in the office, and all network connections were optical fibre only.
@@PippetWhippet It'll be an ongoing issue, but by the sounds of it you need tighter control of the desktop environment. Things like denying users having admin privileges, disabling USB ports for everything but keyboards and mice, no bluetooth file sharing, etc. Laptops will be a problem, especially when away from the office, but I would recommend disabling split tunneling when they VPN into the office.
Phones may be OK as long as they cannot connect to any of your office resources, either through the office Wifi, or to the desktop via bluetooth, USB or Wifi.
It's always a struggle, especially with end users wanting control, so the only way to achieve it is to have approval and support from management.
Good luck!