You need money for guns and clotes desperatly, bun once you do the bank heist, things lay low and money become unecessary unles you spend them like crazy!
Dimitri dies there, the diamonds are hidden from Bulgarin there, the cook dies there, Niko gets betrayed by Dimitri there, Luis’s diamonds gets stolen there, Johnny ambushes them, Evan dies there, what else?
@@RandalfElVikingo Yeah, but Dimitri is still in the ship when he calls up Niko and betrays him again. That's where all the shit is happening and those people protecting the money in the warehouse were sent my dimitri.
The Heroin is the whole reason Niko and Luis managed to kill Dimitri and Bulgarin, think about it if Dimitri never got the h niko never would have located him on the ship (revenge) or if niko did the deal with him Dimitri would make the fatal mistake of sending a hitman to romans wedding (deal) and if bulgarin never got the H luis and tony never would have been able to find out about him moving it on funland (giving luis and tony an opening). So in short the true hero of the story was The Horse.
I thought that was more of a positive thing. It happens after you find Darko, the last thing that was keeping Niko in the past, whatever you do with him, it helps Niko to move on and he allows himself to relax a little by drinking alcohol something he never does in cutscenes before
Igor_Laza__ Can you really blame them though? The game was already released delayed and I doubt they knew exactly where they were going with TDLAD/TBoGT but only had an idea about it.
Johnny is far from week, but his meth problem coupled with the fact that Trevor is bat-shit crazy is what caused Johnny's demise. I love this character too, but I'm a realist.
2016: "Play the newest DLC and buy this fancy looking car and new clothes that cost billions of dollars!! By the way, we patched out Rooftop Rumble and Survival missions which helped you generate money without doing shit heists that trolls fuck up on!"
In my mind, there's no way Niko would have done the deal. After he betrayed Niko and kidnapped and tortured Roman, Niko would have definitely said "fuck the money" and taken the chance to take Dimitri out. Add in the fact that the girl he genuinely had feelings for said she'd lose respect for him for pining after cash.
im not sure if roman dying is the canon ending. in gta v there is a social media page you can look up that belongs to Niko, in which it says that he is currently working with the Bellic cab company, and also said happy birthday to Roman in a recent post (unless it's one of those weird posthumous things).
@Mayochiki this is a good point, i'm with you on pegorino as the final target given how late he was introduced to the game but i just don't like roman being dead so it's a toughie, plus niko had enough money set aside from all the jobs he did plus the bank job
I like johnny because he's a badass but you can see he has a code of honor and he actually thinks before he acts, not too quick to act until he's sure of what's going on. Billy really made him act in ways he wasn't comfortable. He wasn't weak he was actually a strong guy, but gta 5 made him weak to boost Trevor, God I hate Trevor, rip to johnny.
Tbh I can't see how any true fan of GTA IV can really love GTA V's story. They killed one of the protagonists and completely changed the tone of GTA's stories.
Imo the deal ending's more impactful since Dimitri's a long time enemy and Roman's a bigger loss. Only thing I don't like about the revenge ending is Packie's phone call since he's my favorite character. :(
After watching the whole Diamonds, Heroin and Cocaine story. I feel like The Lost and Damned was the most important one out of all three of the episodes.
More important than Niko's? Johnny was less involved with the diamonds than Niko & Luis. Like Luis was much less involved with the heroin, besides destroying it.
At first i didn't know the cutscene with Billy and a Triad member was for but now it all made sense that Billy had set up Johnny and Jim to an ambush which of course backfired and Billy got arrested instead the funny thing is he must have crashed his bike into an uncoming police car while trying to escape when he got caught he was so pissed that he yelled "You set me up Johnny you set me up" "Fuck you Johnny you're dead!" While being detained
TheDragVeteran nah. Packie had a grieving mah to comfort. His family broken enough as is, last thing he wants is to danger himself. Plus he knew Niko wad capable of bring justice.
When you think about it, the diamonds or cocaine are nowhere as important as the heroin. You must make the most important decision in the game based on the H.
It was confirmed the Revenge Ending was cannon. Leslie talked about it, Packie talks about Kate's death in GTA 5. As far as we know, Niko is retired from his life of crime working as a cab driver living in a mansion in Broker with his Cousin. Luis probably retired too and has a family now. The only loose end was the triad buisness but the protaginist from Chinatown Wars ties those loose ends
When I first played gta 4 I did the deal and then when roman died i was upset and then I redid the entire campaign again cuz I did not save before the deal or no deal and when Kate died I was ehh I rather have roman
The sad part about the ending in GTA IV (Original) is that Kate will tell you not to deal with Dimitri (Revenge) and she will get killed if you make that choice however if you go with what Roman recommends (Deal) and work with Dimitri..Roman will be the one that gets killed at the wedding instead. Very sad and ironic if you think about it.
I want GTA 5 to do something like GTA 4 did. How all the stories connected somehow. Honestly GTA 4 was one of the best games I played story line wise. GTA 5 has so much potential to do something like this. I hope they do. GTA 4 story is 10x better then GTA5 although I did enjoy 5.
Agreed. I hope in a DLC or something. Maybe a storyline with a character that's associated with the 3 chararcters, like Lamar. Although, I think I'll like a DLC with 3 chararcters that each is associated with 3 different gangs, maybe The Lost, or the Ballas, or the Families.
Ray was really a slime ball. Got the lost to take the heroin from the Angels, then acted as if he knew nothing or didn’t want any parts when Phil got Niko to take it AGAIN.
@@MerlautJones naw dog, watch again. Ray told the lost to steal it. Then I think they wouldn’t give it to ray so ray told Niko to go steal it from them
Damn, niko’s story out the 3 has to hurt the most since either option can turn out good and end up bad. Losing his cousin or a girl he’s learning to love and has to protect.
Billy and Johnny's relationship is exactly the same than Jax and Clay from Sons of Anarchy. Great video friend. Its a pity you can't leave the music on. This game's soundtrack is wonderful. Especially Liberty Rock during TLAD.
Man Johnny sure does look different in GTA IV. This was 2008, this was before The Lost and Damned came out in 2009, they made an effort to replace it with biker jacket.
Honestly I think it’s kind of ironic though that Johnny works with niko for a bit not realizing that he killed Jason but it got twisted by billy though so he could attack the AOD
I never knew that the H was the same gear between The mob and the bikers. Thought they were 2 different storylines. 12 years later and i’m still learning things now
I always hated Billy since he manipulated Johnny and tricked his brothers into believing that the AODs were responsible for Jason's death, when in reality it was Niko who did it. This shows that he never cared about his brothers or the Lost
Follow the annotations... DEAL ending starts at 32:38 and REVENGE ending starts at 53:37 In DEAL you kill Dimitri at Happiness Island (and Dimitri kills Pegorino at the casino) In REVENGE you kill Pegorino at Happiness Island (and Dimitri on the Platypus)
Dude you have to accept that this game is a peace of art if we talk about it history and characters personalitys, their expressions and dialogs are perfect and the diversity of nationalitys make it more interesting. All of this waay apart from the missions and decisions that make Nico Bellic a very enjoyable character to play with.
but i must say: i gotta give you heavy props for this editing. i mean , not that the editing itself is like amazing SFX , but that this had to take a shit ton of time to time exactly right and playing the games through and through. definitely takes a lot of time and effort and i know as a fellow editor it had to be so tiring at times. i commend you on taking the time to make these videos so accurately timed. bravo. ☺👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍💖
another good video story.. keep up the good work man. only the dedicated viewers watch. so don't beat yourself up about the views or thinking if your doing anything wrong. in my opinion, this is the best quility you could ever edit. nice job man. LOL, i can hear your mouse an keyboard tho
It seems the "Out of Comission" ending is more canonical than the "Deal" ending because it seems more connected with the DLC. It makes more sense that Bulgarin would steal the H in that ending. Though you could say he bought it in the Deal ending. It seems likely that the H was stolen. Plus, Bulgarin running hints somewhat at him stealing the H. Think about it. If he bought it. He would only be running from Tony and the Mob. He's not afraid of the Cops as a few missions in TBoGT shows. So why would he run if he can take in Dimitri's men. If he stole it. He has alot more to fear. Dimitri's mafia remnants, Tony, and the mafia. It seems more likely that he would take Dimitri's men in if he bought it. Then he would fight Tony and the mafia as he would have the men. It seems the only reason he would run is because he stole it from the remnants of Dimitri's men. Which would piss off the entire Russian Mafia, making Bulgarin an outsider and enemy number 1 in Hove Beach. At least, that what l think. That's just my own personal head cannon for the events of the main ending.
I find it very thematical that, when roman got shot, niko was the one that pointed the gun at him (unintentionally), portraying that the deal he took is what got his brother killed (thematically that is)
The older you get, the more you notice how "real" this game was. Dark, gritty actual gangster stuff. Whereas 5 just started going clown mode, and don't even get me started on the GTA 6 trailer 💀 clown fiesta. I guess times change but GTA 4 only got better in my eyes as time went on
GTA iv was supposed to have 3 protagonists like GTA V, but couldn't be done due to technical reasons at the time, that's why the heroin and diamond story feels incomplete in GTA IV and only makes sense in EFLC.
That H really was cursed, leads into a deadly biker war then they get ambushed by feds then the triads cross Johnny over it and get screwed over by Phill who was being watched by police and pegorino dies no matter what
Nice editing man, I like how you put together the pieces of the puzzle Rockstar threw at us, as there are a lot of things I missed while playing. Subscribed.
Luis is a man of morals. He could have taken the H but chooses to destroy them. Also there's a theory that Bulgarin got the Diamonds back (offscreen) then Luis got them too when he killed Bulgarin (offscreen) but he realizes it already destroyed many lives so he purposely bumped that homeless dude dropping the bag of diamond so the homeless guy could get it.
@@muntadar1655 he has men to search for it. If the diamond was truly lost, what type of trash truck would dump the garbage at the park? Should the truck pick up the trash? So Luis intentionally dropped it there.
People talk about the similarities between Johnny K and John Marston. Now that RDR2 is out there are even more. Billy's relation with Jim and Johnny is so similar to Dutch's with Arthur and John. Jesus I just hear Billy talk about loyalty and I start to laugh remembering all the Dutch memes.
It's kind of hard to keep track of all the sub plots in this game while you play it due to the medium it's told in, but it's pretty cool to see how interconnected they all are upon rewatching. The story depth is really impressive. It's actually on the level of a novel I'd say.
"A large ammount of heroin"... so large it's in a little package you see Brian gives to Johnny, which also don't make sense when considering they took two hefty bags from the AOD clubhouse. Same bages later given back to the Triads (16:49) and on that time they had no problem carrying them on their bikes... also stealing an AOD van would result in more attention
Thanks man, the same goes for you as well... I was surprised over having a decent discussion and having actually learned something (that is not related to GTA).
Fun fact: The guy who voices the undercover cop (Charlie) is voiced by James Yaegashi. The guy who voiced Wu Zi Mu from San Andreas.
Sneaky Viper "So... he's not blind."
"Nope."
"But I wanted him to be blind!"
+TheRydersanandreas Woozi: im blind CJ: no shit
you wrong dude, because James Yageshi is Charlie voice ;]
Can you comment the time?
10:33
Kate says you don't need money. Literally, you don't. There's nothing for you to spend it on in IV anyway.
thepunisher236169 I always needed money for guns when I played the game :(
Nacho Shinoda but if u play with cheats u dont need money. I play with cheats. That makes the game more fun.
Just buy them cheap from Little Jacob
My cousin ain’t dying plain and simple
You need money for guns and clotes desperatly, bun once you do the bank heist, things lay low and money become unecessary unles you spend them like crazy!
I totally forgot about Heroin and the cocaine. I only focused on the diamonds :D
***** That's why I make these videos, so people won't forget :P
whatever57010 Thank you kind sir!
I would love to take some diamonds.
Because the diamonds are the most important.
As kid I just ignored these drugs.
GTA IV is all the story of one cursed ship, the Platypus
Alex captain died in a diaper full of doo
Dimitri dies there, the diamonds are hidden from Bulgarin there, the cook dies there, Niko gets betrayed by Dimitri there, Luis’s diamonds gets stolen there, Johnny ambushes them, Evan dies there, what else?
@@wanilimbe Niko gets betrayed in a warehouse, not the ship.
@@RandalfElVikingo Yeah, but Dimitri is still in the ship when he calls up Niko and betrays him again. That's where all the shit is happening and those people protecting the money in the warehouse were sent my dimitri.
@@makypine4829 ohh, you're talking about the second betrayal.
The Heroin is the whole reason Niko and Luis managed to kill Dimitri and Bulgarin, think about it if Dimitri never got the h niko never would have located him on the ship (revenge) or if niko did the deal with him Dimitri would make the fatal mistake of sending a hitman to romans wedding (deal) and if bulgarin never got the H luis and tony never would have been able to find out about him moving it on funland (giving luis and tony an opening). So in short the true hero of the story was The Horse.
Niko Bellic and the greed for money
Drugs ruin lives :P ^_^
the true "Heroine" of the story was the heroin. Huge opportunity missed
Just like in real life, I love you Heroin 😍❤️❤️
The Dark Horse of the story
GTA IV has 3 fucking stories
The Diamonds
The coke
The Heroin
What a game. The best GTA ever
You're forgetting the revenge.
Also notice each story takes on a different island ?
@@RafaelPereira-dc9ir
Yee I’ve thought of that too 😂
And ctw has sword
Playboy talks nonsense
Niko went from
“A glass of water”
To
“Vodka on the rocks”
Lord what have they done to this man 😭
Liberty City can really change a man I guess.
I thought that was more of a positive thing.
It happens after you find Darko, the last thing that was keeping Niko in the past, whatever you do with him, it helps Niko to move on and he allows himself to relax a little by drinking alcohol something he never does in cutscenes before
God, I love how GTA 4 has so many sub-stories that all tie in with the episodes somehow. GTA 5 does not have that type of story depth.
Montana 927
sadly there a ton of storyline errors
Igor_Laza__ pls explain
Igor_Laza__ Can you really blame them though? The game was already released delayed and I doubt they knew exactly where they were going with TDLAD/TBoGT but only had an idea about it.
IAmTheeShadow
Yea that's true
Yeah it's a real shame. GTA V is basically "HEY BUY THESE SHARK CARDS YOU DUMB FUCKS!!!!"
I really hate how 5 made 4's badass characters looks weak.
I found them harder to manoeuvre and a lot less accurate. Franklin, Michael & Trevor, dumb, dumber and dimmest.
When Johnny died he was strung out on meth
@Nocny Cieć z Choroszczy plus had it coming 6 years later hence The Ballad Of Rocco
Johnny is far from week, but his meth problem coupled with the fact that Trevor is bat-shit crazy is what caused Johnny's demise.
I love this character too, but I'm a realist.
It did that to show how crazy and dominant Trevor was
Remember when GTA used to be story-driven, and not DLC and micro-transaction driven?
stg bro gta iv had the deepest story too.
2016: "Play the newest DLC and buy this fancy looking car and new clothes that cost billions of dollars!! By the way, we patched out Rooftop Rumble and Survival missions which helped you generate money without doing shit heists that trolls fuck up on!"
Yes good times
Anthony Turcios I'm praying that Red Dead isn't the same way, but I am kind of preparing for it to be.
Yeah, same here.
In my mind, there's no way Niko would have done the deal. After he betrayed Niko and kidnapped and tortured Roman, Niko would have definitely said "fuck the money" and taken the chance to take Dimitri out. Add in the fact that the girl he genuinely had feelings for said she'd lose respect for him for pining after cash.
im not sure if roman dying is the canon ending. in gta v there is a social media page you can look up that belongs to Niko, in which it says that he is currently working with the Bellic cab company, and also said happy birthday to Roman in a recent post (unless it's one of those weird posthumous things).
FalloutEnthusiast Kate's death is cannon as in GTA v Roman on life Invader with niko
@Mayochiki this is a good point, i'm with you on pegorino as the final target given how late he was introduced to the game
but i just don't like roman being dead so it's a toughie, plus niko had enough money set aside from all the jobs he did plus the bank job
Revenge missions wasn’t really about revenge, it was more so tying up a loose end
Kate is no worth it. Niko deserves a better girl, girl who dress better and is more interesting.
I was thinkin' about this and just noticed, Bulgarin had the diamonds first, and the heroin last, what a coincidence.
I like johnny because he's a badass but you can see he has a code of honor and he actually thinks before he acts, not too quick to act until he's sure of what's going on. Billy really made him act in ways he wasn't comfortable. He wasn't weak he was actually a strong guy, but gta 5 made him weak to boost Trevor, God I hate Trevor, rip to johnny.
Honour? Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Johnny K steal Niko Bellic's and Ray Boccino's share of the diamond money.
lmao! he had a whole story and seemed important enough to live then BAM , trevor whips his brains off his boots in GTA5
I almost cried when Trevor killed Johnny. I couldnt understand why Rockstar was making this choise.
Tbh I can't see how any true fan of GTA IV can really love GTA V's story. They killed one of the protagonists and completely changed the tone of GTA's stories.
Trevor is one of the worst GTA characters
the revenge ending seem's the best but not for packie...
Or his sister
@@kyletanking No not his sister, She dumps Niko as soon as Roman gets killed so I don't have any regrets about that bitch
Fun fact: Roman is still alive because we can see it in Lifeinvader in GTA 5
Imo the deal ending's more impactful since Dimitri's a long time enemy and Roman's a bigger loss.
Only thing I don't like about the revenge ending is Packie's phone call since he's my favorite character. :(
@@MerlautJones yeah but Roman's death was more sad than Kate's death.
I love thinking luis saved niko's ass by killing bulgarin
And Niko killing Ray saved Johnny
Unintentionally
After fucking each other for most of their stories, they finally helped one another (even if unintentionally).
Yes he did.
@@rickyspanish3053 Until he met Trevor.
After watching the whole Diamonds, Heroin and Cocaine story. I feel like The Lost and Damned was the most important one out of all three of the episodes.
It's probably my favorite one story line wise, it's a close one between the original and TLAD.
Ur probably right but I love and enjoy playing TBOGT
More important than Niko's? Johnny was less involved with the diamonds than Niko & Luis. Like Luis was much less involved with the heroin, besides destroying it.
Everything revolved around Niko
It was my less favorite but storywise is very important
i love how Billy tried to kill Johnny and Jim but instead played himself and got prisoned
This is karma for idiots.
It only shows how stupid he is.
At first i didn't know the cutscene with Billy and a Triad member was for but now it all made sense that Billy had set up Johnny and Jim to an ambush which of course backfired and Billy got arrested instead the funny thing is he must have crashed his bike into an uncoming police car while trying to escape when he got caught he was so pissed that he yelled "You set me up Johnny you set me up" "Fuck you Johnny you're dead!" While being detained
When kate died.. i taught packie was going to seek revenge as well
Pegorino and Dimitri are dead so there is no one left to take revenge on (unless he blames Niko in some way)
whatever57010 That's true though I think he meant Packie going along with Niko to kill Pegorino.
Ashwa Cage it would be awesome if you could call Packie before the mission and ask him to help you take down Pegorino
TheDragVeteran nah. Packie had a grieving mah to comfort. His family broken enough as is, last thing he wants is to danger himself. Plus he knew Niko wad capable of bring justice.
Shatta Buss Sentry what up?
When you think about it, the diamonds or cocaine are nowhere as important as the heroin. You must make the most important decision in the game based on the H.
You mean nowhere near as cursed.😄
@Mᴀʀᴛʏ Mᴄғʟʏ free cabs > no sex
@ᴅᴇᴄᴀᴅᴇ How it is cursed? I don't like the fact that Kate is that important for Niko, I was glad when Jimmy ****** her. I never liked her.
@@araxoshine-princessofevil7675 who hurt you
@@AmandaVieiraMamaesouCult No one. I just don't like tomboys.
This is why I love GTA4. The substories are great and it connects all 3 episodes together. And i learn a lot by watching your videos.
GTA IV contains so many underrated quotes.
"What's wrong with you, man? You're being fucking weird."
16:50 The irony of Billy claiming to not trust the Triads when he secretly did, but regretted it.
Something weirdly satisfying about watching the shooting parts sped up, probably the sounds of the guns haha especially the submachine gun
Theres full auto, and then theres fuller auto. Lol
@@Shuv455 and then there’s Grand Theft Auto
It was confirmed the Revenge Ending was cannon. Leslie talked about it, Packie talks about Kate's death in GTA 5. As far as we know, Niko is retired from his life of crime working as a cab driver living in a mansion in Broker with his Cousin. Luis probably retired too and has a family now. The only loose end was the triad buisness but the protaginist from Chinatown Wars ties those loose ends
When does Packie talk about Kate’s death in GTA V?
@@Goji-pb6uu
I wonder where he got his source of information from...
@@genmeriphoton7655 and benzies didn't talk about it either... probably he offloaded some clickbaiter's claims
I'm glad that her death is cannon, I wanted her to suffer from the start.
Revenge is canon due to in TBOGT last mission there's a dialogue which states that "Now Rascalov is dead, we have sole claim to the junk."
Roman never hurt anyone
That broke me heart💔😰
@fbju bvff also Mellorie slept with Vlad before
What about that poor cockroach?? :(
Bill Worboyes if it didn’t make the credits, it isn’t important. 🤣
I broke down in sobs after that.
@@BillyWorboyes underrated comment haha
When I first played gta 4 I did the deal and then when roman died i was upset and then I redid the entire campaign again cuz I did not save before the deal or no deal and when Kate died I was ehh I rather have roman
Conker!!! Hi!
same
Besides I am a better antagonist than Dimitri Rascilov, I have a longer death scene for a start.
Same
Better you have roman
Better to have the one who is from your family.
The sad part about the ending in GTA IV (Original) is that Kate will tell you not to deal with Dimitri (Revenge) and she will get killed if you make that choice however if you go with what Roman recommends (Deal) and work with Dimitri..Roman will be the one that gets killed at the wedding instead. Very sad and ironic if you think about it.
Johnny looks so different in GTA 4 compared to TLAD
Jason Hurk your a wierdo lmao
@@Isolated-_--hv8ej what? No.
Johnny, Luis, even the Triad character look different
@@TheRenegadeMage and jim
@@charlied2585 shut yo weird ass up
I want GTA 5 to do something like GTA 4 did. How all the stories connected somehow. Honestly GTA 4 was one of the best games I played story line wise. GTA 5 has so much potential to do something like this. I hope they do. GTA 4 story is 10x better then GTA5 although I did enjoy 5.
Agreed. I hope in a DLC or something. Maybe a storyline with a character that's associated with the 3 chararcters, like Lamar. Although, I think I'll like a DLC with 3 chararcters that each is associated with 3 different gangs, maybe The Lost, or the Ballas, or the Families.
All these years later and gta 5 was a big OOF
Gta 5 is still masterpiece, even gta 4 is better, because gta 4 is the best.
GTA San Andreas also had a good story
@@moosejuice2166 they made that comment when gta 5 was around two years old
Ray was really a slime ball. Got the lost to take the heroin from the Angels, then acted as if he knew nothing or didn’t want any parts when Phil got Niko to take it AGAIN.
Wait, what? Ray had nothing to do with the heroin. All he did was sell the Lost some guns, like that grenade launcher.
@@MerlautJones he was the one that told them to steal it in the first place. Then played dumb when Phil got Niko to take it from them.
@@youngfrantz5109 But then Ray would've wanted it for the Pegorinos instead of letting the Lost sell it for themselves. That was all Billy.
@@MerlautJones naw dog, watch again. Ray told the lost to steal it. Then I think they wouldn’t give it to ray so ray told Niko to go steal it from them
bro your videos are full of adventure they really cool keep it up
+Sebastian Martinez thanks man :D
+whatever57010 01:12:32 lol niko
whatever57010 hey Johnny is wearing totally different jackets in the two games why did they change it
Thecrazymofo Bat that was beta johnny
nate smith what so they still didn't finish him in gta Iv
Damn, niko’s story out the 3 has to hurt the most since either option can turn out good and end up bad. Losing his cousin or a girl he’s learning to love and has to protect.
My niko doesn't love Kate lol, 0 dates
These never get old to watch. A lot of the GTAs have awesome stories in them and whatever57010 knows how to do the storytelling~
What if Niko just stole the H after he killed Dimitri?
CurryStain Niko don’t like heroin
CurryStain yeah and gave it to pegorino to make him leave alone
@@theunknownperson9785 "I don't even like fucking heroin".
@@titanenzubber3778 Lol Niko probably should've tried that.
I know I’m 7 years late but it wouldn’t make sense, how is he going steal something that is already theirs?
Billy and Johnny's relationship is exactly the same than Jax and Clay from Sons of Anarchy.
Great video friend. Its a pity you can't leave the music on. This game's soundtrack is wonderful. Especially Liberty Rock during TLAD.
So true, was thinking it myself when I watched SOA
I don't Think so
I think it's closer to Dutch and Arthur from rdr2
@@jakefitzsimons4245 they probably would've made that comparison if the comment wasn't made four years before rdr2 came out
Funny thing is TLAD came first
I think Jax and Clay had a closer father-son relation than Johnny and Billy ever did though, at least until Jax lost all respect for Cay.
Man Johnny sure does look different in GTA IV. This was 2008, this was before The Lost and Damned came out in 2009, they made an effort to replace it with biker jacket.
Honestly I think it’s kind of ironic though that Johnny works with niko for a bit not realizing that he killed Jason but it got twisted by billy though so he could attack the AOD
maaan your channel is amazing the effort you put in this... you deserved way better feedback, keep up the good work!
I never knew that the H was the same gear between The mob and the bikers. Thought they were 2 different storylines. 12 years later and i’m still learning things now
Niko:why is this wierd?
Also niko:*runs over pedestrian and gets a wanted level*
24:33 Phil's car started moving even though he wasn't on the driver's seat yet :D
24:33
“ I don’t want to see a fucking picture. I’m trying to get us out of this situation! “ 😂😂😂
UGHH Love Everything About These, very entertaining. Hope You Do More, Cuz I Can Tell You Apreciate GTA's Good Story And Dialogue.
Thanks, I also love Gta IVs story :)
I always hated Billy since he manipulated Johnny and tricked his brothers into believing that the AODs were responsible for Jason's death, when in reality it was Niko who did it. This shows that he never cared about his brothers or the Lost
I love these connections, Rockstar did a great job with this!
They made this game a fine piece of art tying everything together the diamonds the h and the cocaine
Follow the annotations... DEAL ending starts at 32:38 and REVENGE ending starts at 53:37
In DEAL you kill Dimitri at Happiness Island (and Dimitri kills Pegorino at the casino)
In REVENGE you kill Pegorino at Happiness Island (and Dimitri on the Platypus)
brooooo so who ever advice u took that person wud die at the wedding
bruh. the way these games were interconnected together was genius writing over at rockstar.
Don't mess with drugs, kids!
I have been stuck in a rabbit hole of your GTA IV videos, and I am not complaining at all
This game had stories within stories no other gta game was like this
I’m glad you make these videos about the story because it’s always confusing and easy for everything to seem random without the added context
Dude you have to accept that this game is a peace of art if we talk about it history and characters personalitys, their expressions and dialogs are perfect and the diversity of nationalitys make it more interesting. All of this waay apart from the missions and decisions that make Nico Bellic a very enjoyable character to play with.
Him and Johnny k both
you are a good editor, you get the story across clearly.
but i must say: i gotta give you heavy props for this editing. i mean , not that the editing itself is like amazing SFX , but that this had to take a shit ton of time to time exactly right and playing the games through and through. definitely takes a lot of time and effort and i know as a fellow editor it had to be so tiring at times. i commend you on taking the time to make these videos so accurately timed. bravo. ☺👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👍💖
Just realized that everybody always seems to focus on the diamonds but in reality the H is far, far more important
another good video story.. keep up the good work man. only the dedicated viewers watch. so don't beat yourself up about the views or thinking if your doing anything wrong. in my opinion, this is the best quility you could ever edit. nice job man.
LOL, i can hear your mouse an keyboard tho
No matter what choices you do in GTA IV , it's all tragic and sad for Niko
It seems the "Out of Comission" ending is more canonical than the "Deal" ending because it seems more connected with the DLC. It makes more sense that Bulgarin would steal the H in that ending. Though you could say he bought it in the Deal ending. It seems likely that the H was stolen.
Plus, Bulgarin running hints somewhat at him stealing the H. Think about it. If he bought it. He would only be running from Tony and the Mob. He's not afraid of the Cops as a few missions in TBoGT shows. So why would he run if he can take in Dimitri's men. If he stole it. He has alot more to fear. Dimitri's mafia remnants, Tony, and the mafia. It seems more likely that he would take Dimitri's men in if he bought it. Then he would fight Tony and the mafia as he would have the men. It seems the only reason he would run is because he stole it from the remnants of Dimitri's men. Which would piss off the entire Russian Mafia, making Bulgarin an outsider and enemy number 1 in Hove Beach.
At least, that what l think. That's just my own personal head cannon for the events of the main ending.
"So... This is weird."
"Why is this weird?"
*gets a wanted level for running over the pedestrian*
20:08 Chick-fl-a employee when you ordered your food and they forgot to say “my pleasure”
Amazing work on these videos, Subbed and Liked
Thanks man, happy you enjoy my videos :)
The heroin story is never talked about as much as the diamond deal man GTA 4 is the real deal!
I find it very thematical that, when roman got shot, niko was the one that pointed the gun at him (unintentionally), portraying that the deal he took is what got his brother killed (thematically that is)
I like the Diamonds better as well, the Heroine has more holes in the plot, so this one was actually much harder to make.
21:18 Niko: "I've Got a Complaint About Your Driving ASSHOLE!" [Such a badass line]
This game has subplots richer than the entirety of GTA 5's main story lmao
Thanks man, happy you enjoyed it :)
The older you get, the more you notice how "real" this game was. Dark, gritty actual gangster stuff. Whereas 5 just started going clown mode, and don't even get me started on the GTA 6 trailer 💀 clown fiesta.
I guess times change but GTA 4 only got better in my eyes as time went on
Sadly GTA is taking the Saint's Row path for some reason, when it should've just stayed on its own lane
This reminds how different GTA 4's missions were different from each other
Play in GTA V, there missions are really different.
And thanks for calling my video "awesome" :)
I love the heroin story as well as the diamond story GREAT JOB with these stories man
Its like watching one good movie its just what I always loved about playing gta. Watching, playing, loving the story tellings.
thanks for posting this! those crossovers always intrigued me, good to see them in one place and be able to follow :)
So the diamond is the end for Luis
While the heroin is the end for Johnny and Nico
GTA iv was supposed to have 3 protagonists like GTA V, but couldn't be done due to technical reasons at the time, that's why the heroin and diamond story feels incomplete in GTA IV and only makes sense in EFLC.
I never thought those stories felt incomplete at all. It was nikos story and as it was pre DLC I feel like it all wrapped together well.
That H really was cursed, leads into a deadly biker war then they get ambushed by feds then the triads cross Johnny over it and get screwed over by Phill who was being watched by police and pegorino dies no matter what
30:34 That fucking look that niko has on his face is amazing
This makes me want to replay GTA IV for the 15th time
Nice editing man, I like how you put together the pieces of the puzzle Rockstar threw at us, as there are a lot of things I missed while playing. Subscribed.
You can see that Billy really does kind of hate Brian.
Luis is a man of morals. He could have taken the H but chooses to destroy them.
Also there's a theory that Bulgarin got the Diamonds back (offscreen) then Luis got them too when he killed Bulgarin (offscreen) but he realizes it already destroyed many lives so he purposely bumped that homeless dude dropping the bag of diamond so the homeless guy could get it.
Well seems kinda mid theory ngl but would be cool
No, he did not get the diamonds, a hobo got them by chance, you can see that in TBOGT ending
@@SkelterHelter did you fully read my comment?
But the diamonds were lost in trash how could bulgarin recover them easily
@@muntadar1655 he has men to search for it.
If the diamond was truly lost, what type of trash truck would dump the garbage at the park? Should the truck pick up the trash? So Luis intentionally dropped it there.
I Really like playing as Johnny more than Niko and Luis
Same
I love playing as Johnny and Niko but not luis
i love playing as luis and Niko
It does not matter for me if ı play a long time
Again a great video, watched it until the end once again
People talk about the similarities between Johnny K and John Marston. Now that RDR2 is out there are even more. Billy's relation with Jim and Johnny is so similar to Dutch's with Arthur and John. Jesus I just hear Billy talk about loyalty and I start to laugh remembering all the Dutch memes.
“I got a plan boys!”
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When Kate says she was going to take a chance on Niko and then gets shot.. the feels
man, lj talking about roman in the deal car chase is breaking my heart.
Thanks man, happy you enjoy my videos :)
Gta 5 ending - pushes car into water
Gta 4 ending- *WE FUCKING WON MAN*
It's kind of hard to keep track of all the sub plots in this game while you play it due to the medium it's told in, but it's pretty cool to see how interconnected they all are upon rewatching. The story depth is really impressive. It's actually on the level of a novel I'd say.
"A large ammount of heroin"... so large it's in a little package you see Brian gives to Johnny, which also don't make sense when considering they took two hefty bags from the AOD clubhouse. Same bages later given back to the Triads (16:49) and on that time they had no problem carrying them on their bikes...
also stealing an AOD van would result in more attention
Best Gta channel on TH-cam barnone
yeah
30:31 If looks could kill 😂😂
It's impressive how many guys are able to kill each other because of the heroin.
+whatever57010 You rank right up there with GTA Series Videos, dude. Your vids are AMAZING! I'm subbing.
Thanks man, the same goes for you as well... I was surprised over having a decent discussion and having actually learned something (that is not related to GTA).
Billy and Brian were the perfect example of how organized crime works.
Happy you enjoyed them :)
The triads were right about the heroin, it cursed
Thank you my man ! Brings back so many fuckin memories ! Also very emotional. Thank u