The thing I love about this channel is that I haven’t heard 9/10 of the stories despite the fact that I watch tons of true crime content. I love that you focus on a lot of historical stories- even though they’re old, they’re no less important! Really interesting to as always!
I find it fascinating and also incredible that the theft of clothing was deemed more heinous than abduction, assault, kidnapping and coercion (is that the right word?) to prostitution. I can't see Elizabeth bashing her own head, although stranger things have happened (see the Murdauch/Murdaugh? case in US at the moment where the guy paid someone to kill him) nor does she seem to be a character who would tell lies to get someone in court, did they even pay out compensation in those days? It also shows that the press/media where same then as now, and that the public like to get stuck in aboot it with their opinions. I'm glad that Elizabeth had a life in America. Thanks so much for your work and information. Good wishes as ever Xxx 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🍀 🗺️ 🏴🕊️⚖️
I wonder where she would have been staying all that time if not at Mrs. Wells' house. I wonder if she might have run away from an abusive or stifling mother and stayed with a secret beau. Then maybe he was physically abusive and unable to provide for her, so she fled back to her mother. She likely would not have admitted the truth knowing the negative affect it would have on her reputation, so she concocted a false narrative, unconcerned for the reputation and fate of the people she implicated. It really is a curious case.
Wow just looked up the Murdaugh case and I guess not only did he hire someone to kill him for insurance fraud, but his housekeeper died in 2018, and his wife and younger son were shot and killed in June. I smell a Netflix special
I wonder if she was sexually assaulted and this is the story she came up with, guided by her mother, in order to claim her virtue was still intact. I really don’t see anyway she would have returned home without her stays, unless she had been sexually assaulted. Women didn’t roam the streets in solely their chemise (underwear) and whatever had happened, she was in some way harmed.
You're right, I didn't think of that, the stigma and people whispering about her when she goes out in the community. From other brief cases I've watched I know back in the 17th & 18th century women who've been assaulted even find it hard to get work afterwards so it is possibly she made it all up yes
@@F40PH-2CAT why would she have returned in her underwear….and without stays? Stays are made specifically for an individual and as they wear them, they form to their body shape. She wouldn’t have left without her stays.
I'd like to hear some of the theories as to what happened to Elizabeth during her absence. I can't imagine she was just out somewhere, having fun. I'm glad she found a good life in America, although it was not long.
@@charlylucky7508 Some of the American colonies were penal colonies, where convicts were sent rather than crowd the prisons. After the Revolution, the British had to find a new penal colony, which is why so many were sent to Australia.
I think something did happen to her, whether she was attacked or it was purely an accident. But the trauma messed her up. Back then, they didn't realize the effect a trauma could have on someone. She believed what she said was true. Either that or she was a very good actor.
This is a real puzzler. It seems unlikely that she would be able to describe, and take police to, a home to which she'd never been. The details not adding up is a sticking point, but trauma may have convoluted her memories and/or created false memories to help her cope.
I was thinking the same thing. People who are abducted and assaulted usually disassociate from the situation, leaving their memories full of holes. Remember that she wasn't the one to find the house; two men did, and it's possible (not certain, but possible) that when they brought her there, she just thought it was that house, and that her memories were corrupted by being shown the house. Not 100% sure about this theory, but I think it's worth considering.
I don’t understand how she could have been convicted of perjury when clearly she was attacked and stripped of most of her clothes! But it was a long time ago! I enjoyed your video, as usual!
The perjury was that her initial description to the police of the woman who held her hostage, and the attic she was held hostage in, didn't match the woman who was convicted and her attic (even though she said it was the attic, even though it didn't match her initial description.) So hard to know what happened in this case, it seems likely that her story of being held hostage was true, but it seems likely that the house and woman she identified were not correct (possibly from the head injury from the initial abduction.)
Well, it sounds like perjury when they ascribe an assault to people who had quite convincing alibis that they couldn't have been there. Teenaged girls have sometimes gone to great degrees of self-harm to portray themselves as victims, and more have told convoluted lies to avoid blame for situations (such as sexual assault) that today would not be considered their fault at all. I wonder if she tried to come up with a "shield" story (perhaps she had been sexually assaulted by someone "respectable"), and when someone jumped on the Wells connection she felt compelled to keep agreeing with it.
@@b.f.2461 I did a deep dive on this case years ago, there's a bit more to it than what was covered here but the only logical theory I could come up with was something happened to sully her reputation. Whether that was voluntary or not, noone will ever know, but the rest of it was to cover it up.
There are a few books about this strange affair. You're right - it was big news back then. One of the women that allegedly kidnapped her was supposedly a gypsy (I think the one who was seen telling fortunes). The press hyped it up with calling the 2 warring factions, or leastways disagreeing factions, the Canningites vs. the Egyptians. Nevertheless, something bad had definitely happened to Liz. She was in rough shape when she returned - physically, mentally, and emotionally. Good presentation.
These really old cases are so interesting. With investigations being rudimentary at best, it's fascinating to hear about the 'facts' of these cases. These so often relied almost exclusively on eye witnesses. Nowadays, it's well known that eye witness accounts are so unreliable, and hearing all of the conflicting testimonies in these cases really illustrates this phenomenon. Thank you for your hard work researching these obscure cases from all over the world and then producing such well-made and beautiful documentaries about them.❤
The fact that England has such a thorough history that you can share these cases from this era is such a benefit and part of why I am a follower! Thanks for the excellent upload BC!
I’m shocked that kidnapping was not a crime but a theft of Elizabeth’s 10 shilling corset was a death sentence. It is compelling that affluent neighbors gave evidence for the Defense. Very good historical Brief Case! Thank you! 😌
As an Australian, I know from historical records that stealing a suit was considered a capital offence, and many who were spared the death penalty were transported for the offence. Stealing a suit was considered a crime against authority, because clothing marked the boundaries of the ruling class. A lot of impoverished people who stole suits were trying to better their prospects of a job. I suppose stealing corsets was considered an equally punishable offence against the ruling class.
I'd say this one depends on how big/tangible the discrepancies were. When I was in college, I remember this one class where we all were shown a picture of a room and then had to describe the place. Except for obvious things like the colour of the walls, that one big piece of furniture and if it was clean/dirty, we all pretty much used different terms to describe it and remembered some details differently. And Elizabeth's trauma could have added to that. I don't know how trained were investigators back then, or how seriously they took women's depictions compared to their own.
Really good point and they knew she had got free so could have changed the loft layout etc. Especially as another couple lived there after...I recently watched a video where it said that one reason the police know if u r telling the truth is when people lie they never stray from the story or descriptions. When u remember things , truly, each time bits become more clear or u remember more details or it slightly different. As your memory isn't an exact picture but parts of pictures linked together. It makes a valid point. That's how I know if my child fibs to me now.
Did you have time to stay in the room? I'm assuming that since this was a class, you only had a small period of time. My experience is that people tend to remember things like a room they stay in when they are there for more than a class session.
What a fascinating case. For a moment I thought you where going to say the mother was seeing her daughter's ghost, and I was a bit surprised to hear she actually turned up alive after having been missing for 4 weeks. Another interesting video, thank you.
This is a fantastic mystery. If I had to pick a side I'd say she was kidnapped but probably wasn't able to recollect everything because of PTSD. At least she got out of England and got a new life in America! Fast car's & movie stars.
agreed! people who have gone through trauma and/or brain damage can be prone to suggestion. Brain tries to fill in the space to deal with whats missing.
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Oh, something undoubtedly happened to Elizabeth. You mentioned that she was found in the Bedlam area, so she could have had memory loss and been imprisoned there before ultimately escaping confinement, which could be done to anyone in those days without they themselves giving permission for it. I think she got frightened and may have told her mother that she had been kidnapped and attempted to be forced into prostitution, because of the stigma attached to the whole insane asylum system that society was against. It likely just got out of hand, and she was frightened about the consequences, so she stuck with her story.
This truly was a fascinating and yet puzzling story about, Elizabeth Canning. People said it didn't fit her personality to just disappear but yet she did and people seem to be torn, as to what really happened to her. She may have simply blocked out the kidnapping and trauma, and that could be why there's contradictions in her telling about what happened to her. Great investigating and presentation, as always.
We didn't hear what the accused had to say, except one of them wasn't in town at the time of the abduction. The case got so much media attention so if Elizabeth had been somewhere else, someone must had seen her and would have to had come forward to tell about it. It didn't happen, so I think she was speaking the truth. Except, if she was held by someone else, someone she wouldn't name and who had no interest in coming forward.
Love waking up to Brief Case! This case was very interesting, I can't stop thinking about what could have really happened. Another amazing video as always! 💖Elaina
I think Elizabeth was telling the truth, but she got the people and house incorrect. She said it took about 5 hours to walk home, but the house they zoned in on was only about 10 miles from hers. That's a long time to be walking 10 miles... Even walking at a slow pace (25 min per mile), she should have arrived home in about 4 hours. The only reason they zoned in on the house in the first place, was because someone thought it was similar. But the loft room didn't match and the appearance of the female captor didn't match her statements. I have a feeling the house where the kidnapping actually took place, was a few miles farther down the same road or a different road entirely and she was too traumatized to make an accurate identification at the time. I don't think it helped that Mary was Romani, since they were considered thieves and less-than by the English population at the time. She (and the others by association) became the perfect target, due to the prevailing prejudices of the time and I am not surprised they centered the blame on her/them, even with things not adding up.
You do such a great job at these old, obscure cases! Love it! I think she disappeared on her own for whatever reason. She didn't think the story she told would implicate anyone. When iit did, she felt trapped into sticking to it.
a lot for stealing someone's knickers. So called civilization was questionable back then. If you could survive a person would be better off living in the middle of nowhere as far away from people as they could get back then.
Oh yes. Many of Australia’s convicts were convicted of stealing small lengths of cloth or clothing and only lived because their death sentences were commuted. British Law was entirely about the value of property over people.
Stellar video. I love that I’ve never heard of these cases. Very intriguing. On one hand, I feel like she’s lying but then again she could have been traumatized so much that she got details wrong. Idk 🤷🏻♀️
@@lorettacadman8466 yep it definitely can block out traumatic events. I have a black hole in my memory from when I was sexually abused as a child. I can remember before and after the worst time but I can’t remember anything in between. The other times he hurt me are gone now too, they disappeared from my memory after the worst happened. It’s strange to know it happened but not have any memory of it. I’m ok with not knowing as I’ve forgiven him and don’t dwell on things I can’t change.
Ahhh...just what I needed to start this Monday morning! Awesome video, as always! Hope you had a wonderful weekend, and a wonderful Thanksgiving, @Criminally Listed, as well as all of your subscribers (if you all celebrate Thanksgiving!) Hope everyone has a great week! 😊
@@Jaggededge112 I meant to put Brief Case! I actually watched a Criminally Listed video right before this one, and had that one on my brain! Lol! Thanks for the correction! I'll just blame it on Monday! I'm still trying to get back into the groove after being off work for the last 9 days!
To be poor in London back then must have been harsh. Not only do you have poverty to deal with, you stand a chance of getting the death penalty for the least little crime! Thanks, Brief Case, for another fantastic video!
@Brief Case Thank you for another fascinating, enigmatic, "new" (to me) case study! With regard to Elizabeth's alleged perjury, one thing I kept coming back to was that she did have a significant head injury which could very well have affected her memory. The fact that no one besides the victim and likely perpetrators came forward with an alternative explanation is a bit of a red flag as well. As you're far more familiar with this case than I am, I would love to hear your opinion. Thanks for another banger. 😍
Good morning Briefies. No sleep yet. I dunno. But this is an unexpected treat as I've been watching previously uploaded videos. Hope you are well Briefy. Happy holidays everyone. From Texas...Mimi.. out-🎄💎❤
As to Elizabeth's memory of the event, it reminds me of one of the more modernish cases of memory based convictions and who you believe : Kevin Green was convicted in 1979 on his then wife's testimony that he had been the man who assaulted her, caused her brain trauma from a blow to the head and the loss of their full term baby. This was based on the last memory she had of him and their interaction before the attack -Of them having a heated argument though after that point she didn't remember anything specific about the actual attack. 16 years later DNA exonerated Green as the culprit but he would later go on to settle a wrongful death suit brought on by the ex-wife after he was freed. She maintained that HE had been the one that rendered her unconscious which allowed her to be assaulted by the real perpetrator. Maybe BC and Crime Reel can cover it as a cross over since the real culprit was a serial killer. Like maybe one does the 1979 case while the other does the one about the serial killer and tie it in that way? Anyhow it's a very interesting case in how convinced we can be that our memories are accurate even after evidence has proven other wise.
I love these cases from the 18th century. Can you please do older cases like this one when you can. I know the research on these has too be really hard, but they are so intriguing. Thank you for your hard work BC...We love U.
I'm new to your channel, but I am in love with your delivery of these fascinating stories. Victorian England is my most favourite era from history. Thank you, thank you!! ❤️🇨🇦
Thank you again BC for another wonderful and informative crime stories from the past. Very much appreciate your time researching and posting your videos every week. I hope TH-cam knows how much we Brief Case fans are here to support you🙏🙏🙏❤️🥰
I listened twice to understand better. Poor girl, must be horrible for her. No one in Court believed her story. And she died too young, hope she was happy with her marriage. Thank you Bcase. I was impressed with this case too. You did a great job! Ads👍🏻 Will relisten more of your contents later
I'm also interested in what others think happened. I myself can't really fathom why she would do this other than maybe wanting to run off with a boy and then changing her mind. Or maybe her plans didn't work out and she didn't know how to go back home without making up a story. Or perhaps she just wanted the attention for some crazy reason. This is a head scratcher for sure. I'm glad I voted for the eighteenth century case in your poll. It was definitely an interesting one. Thank you for your time, energy and skill Mr. Case. ❤️
Like someone else in the comments section said, I wonder if she was actually sexually assaulted and because of the shame and stigma back in the 17th & 18th century she or along with her mother made up that story to keep her virtue intact. It sounds as though something did happen to her although I don't believe it happened exactly as she said.
I'm really trying to get away from true crime but your brother keeps bringing me here. Happily, you cover lesser known and more historical crimes. Thank you.
Wow Brief Case, this is definitely one of the best stories you have narrated thus far. Alot of detailed information that you uncovered about this case is remarkable. Thank you for sharing this sad and complicated story with us. Your delivery is spectacular! 🙂
Another great video BC. I love the uniqueness of this channel, you'll be hard pressed to find another that covers such niche cases as Brief Case. Keep up the great work 👍
Wow! I wouldn't have wanted to live in that era! Assault is not a crime but stealing something gets you the death penalty? Holy moley! Thanks for the great work you do! Love your episodes!
Love your content. Helps me get to sleep and although my TV shuts off after an hour the content keeps playing. So while I'm not awake to give Likes, you are getting plays and I hope it helps you keep this thing funded! Thank you!
I love this channel. The cases are unique to only this channel. I have never heard any of these cases on any other channel. Keep up the God work.. love from St. Lucia 🇱🇨
I absolutely love these older Brief Case editions! If the case occurred before photography I an as excited as a child. Mind you, all B.C.s are a special viewing experience. The Monday morning coffee and B.C. ritual is a great way to begin a week.
Absolutely love the voice reciting the cases and I love the cases I love the older ones love the new ones does not matter it helps me relax at night like somebody's reading me as story thank you so much
This really was a thought-provoking case for sure. Harkens modern plight of human trafficking, but at the same time the ??? nature of crime classification and punishments of the era. Thanks BC!
Wow! That was really great! I think she was telling the truth. Why would she make up such a story? Buuuut, there is this little niggle at the back of my mind! Many thanks as always B.C. 😊😊
The thing I love about this channel is that I haven’t heard 9/10 of the stories despite the fact that I watch tons of true crime content. I love that you focus on a lot of historical stories- even though they’re old, they’re no less important! Really interesting to as always!
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@Emily Y I fully agree with your comment. I've been a true crime fanatic for 35+ years. I love the older cases.
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I find it fascinating and also incredible that the theft of clothing was deemed more heinous than abduction, assault, kidnapping and coercion (is that the right word?) to prostitution.
I can't see Elizabeth bashing her own head, although stranger things have happened (see the Murdauch/Murdaugh? case in US at the moment where the guy paid someone to kill him) nor does she seem to be a character who would tell lies to get someone in court, did they even pay out compensation in those days?
It also shows that the press/media where same then as now, and that the public like to get stuck in aboot it with their opinions.
I'm glad that Elizabeth had a life in America.
Thanks so much for your work and information.
Good wishes as ever Xxx 🙏🏼 ❤️ 🍀 🗺️ 🏴🕊️⚖️
I wonder where she would have been staying all that time if not at Mrs. Wells' house. I wonder if she might have run away from an abusive or stifling mother and stayed with a secret beau. Then maybe he was physically abusive and unable to provide for her, so she fled back to her mother. She likely would not have admitted the truth knowing the negative affect it would have on her reputation, so she concocted a false narrative, unconcerned for the reputation and fate of the people she implicated. It really is a curious case.
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Wow just looked up the Murdaugh case and I guess not only did he hire someone to kill him for insurance fraud, but his housekeeper died in 2018, and his wife and younger son were shot and killed in June. I smell a Netflix special
I wonder if she was sexually assaulted and this is the story she came up with, guided by her mother, in order to claim her virtue was still intact. I really don’t see anyway she would have returned home without her stays, unless she had been sexually assaulted. Women didn’t roam the streets in solely their chemise (underwear) and whatever had happened, she was in some way harmed.
You're right, I didn't think of that, the stigma and people whispering about her when she goes out in the community. From other brief cases I've watched I know back in the 17th & 18th century women who've been assaulted even find it hard to get work afterwards so it is possibly she made it all up yes
It would have been strange to name real names in such a story. Since prosecution or at least investigation is likely and you'll probably be found out.
Or she ran off with the wrong man. Nice girls of "good character" still do stupid things.
That was the first thought that came into my mind!
@@F40PH-2CAT why would she have returned in her underwear….and without stays? Stays are made specifically for an individual and as they wear them, they form to their body shape. She wouldn’t have left without her stays.
I'd like to hear some of the theories as to what happened to Elizabeth during her absence. I can't imagine she was just out somewhere, having fun. I'm glad she found a good life in America, although it was not long.
Taken by someone and held hostage, but she escaped. Poor girl
So being sent to America was punishment? She died a few years before independence, so it's not like America was in disarray. Or maybe it was.
Happens today
@@charlylucky7508 Some of the American colonies were penal colonies, where convicts were sent rather than crowd the prisons. After the Revolution, the British had to find a new penal colony, which is why so many were sent to Australia.
@@ImCarolB , I knew about Australia, but didn't know about here in the U.S. Thanks.
I think something did happen to her, whether she was attacked or it was purely an accident. But the trauma messed her up. Back then, they didn't realize the effect a trauma could have on someone. She believed what she said was true. Either that or she was a very good actor.
I think you propose the most likely answer.
Some girls are great actors.
Really interesting story BC, thanks for your regular stories every Monday
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This is a real puzzler. It seems unlikely that she would be able to describe, and take police to, a home to which she'd never been. The details not adding up is a sticking point, but trauma may have convoluted her memories and/or created false memories to help her cope.
She didnt take them the two guys she told the story to said that it must be that house.
She had head injury could have caused her confusion on which house
I was thinking the same thing. People who are abducted and assaulted usually disassociate from the situation, leaving their memories full of holes. Remember that she wasn't the one to find the house; two men did, and it's possible (not certain, but possible) that when they brought her there, she just thought it was that house, and that her memories were corrupted by being shown the house.
Not 100% sure about this theory, but I think it's worth considering.
@@harrycarrey5124 Was just going to say that exact thing, thank you
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I don’t understand how she could have been convicted of perjury when clearly she was attacked and stripped of most of her clothes!
But it was a long time ago!
I enjoyed your video, as usual!
The perjury was that her initial description to the police of the woman who held her hostage, and the attic she was held hostage in, didn't match the woman who was convicted and her attic (even though she said it was the attic, even though it didn't match her initial description.) So hard to know what happened in this case, it seems likely that her story of being held hostage was true, but it seems likely that the house and woman she identified were not correct (possibly from the head injury from the initial abduction.)
Well, it sounds like perjury when they ascribe an assault to people who had quite convincing alibis that they couldn't have been there.
Teenaged girls have sometimes gone to great degrees of self-harm to portray themselves as victims, and more have told convoluted lies to avoid blame for situations (such as sexual assault) that today would not be considered their fault at all. I wonder if she tried to come up with a "shield" story (perhaps she had been sexually assaulted by someone "respectable"), and when someone jumped on the Wells connection she felt compelled to keep agreeing with it.
@@b.f.2461 I did a deep dive on this case years ago, there's a bit more to it than what was covered here but the only logical theory I could come up with was something happened to sully her reputation. Whether that was voluntary or not, noone will ever know, but the rest of it was to cover it up.
There are a few books about this strange affair. You're right - it was big news back then. One of the women that allegedly kidnapped her was supposedly a gypsy (I think the one who was seen telling fortunes). The press hyped it up with calling the 2 warring factions, or leastways disagreeing factions, the Canningites vs. the Egyptians. Nevertheless, something bad had definitely happened to Liz. She was in rough shape when she returned - physically, mentally, and emotionally. Good presentation.
These really old cases are so interesting. With investigations being rudimentary at best, it's fascinating to hear about the 'facts' of these cases. These so often relied almost exclusively on eye witnesses. Nowadays, it's well known that eye witness accounts are so unreliable, and hearing all of the conflicting testimonies in these cases really illustrates this phenomenon. Thank you for your hard work researching these obscure cases from all over the world and then producing such well-made and beautiful documentaries about them.❤
The fact that England has such a thorough history that you can share these cases from this era is such a benefit and part of why I am a follower! Thanks for the excellent upload BC!
I’m shocked that kidnapping was not a crime but a theft of Elizabeth’s 10 shilling corset was a death sentence. It is compelling that affluent neighbors gave evidence for the Defense. Very good historical Brief Case! Thank you! 😌
IKR. That's so warped. Kidnapping and assault, no big deal. Steal a corset and you're going to hang.
As an Australian, I know from historical records that stealing a suit was considered a capital offence, and many who were spared the death penalty were transported for the offence. Stealing a suit was considered a crime against authority, because clothing marked the boundaries of the ruling class. A lot of impoverished people who stole suits were trying to better their prospects of a job. I suppose stealing corsets was considered an equally punishable offence against the ruling class.
At this time property crime was considered more severe than violent crime.
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I'd say this one depends on how big/tangible the discrepancies were. When I was in college, I remember this one class where we all were shown a picture of a room and then had to describe the place. Except for obvious things like the colour of the walls, that one big piece of furniture and if it was clean/dirty, we all pretty much used different terms to describe it and remembered some details differently. And Elizabeth's trauma could have added to that. I don't know how trained were investigators back then, or how seriously they took women's depictions compared to their own.
I had a professor do that experiment too. He hated me cause I got every detail right and skewed thr results,lol
There was another couple moved up there after Elizabeth escaped and the room looked different after their took up residence there
Really good point and they knew she had got free so could have changed the loft layout etc. Especially as another couple lived there after...I recently watched a video where it said that one reason the police know if u r telling the truth is when people lie they never stray from the story or descriptions. When u remember things , truly, each time bits become more clear or u remember more details or it slightly different. As your memory isn't an exact picture but parts of pictures linked together. It makes a valid point. That's how I know if my child fibs to me now.
Did you have time to stay in the room? I'm assuming that since this was a class, you only had a small period of time. My experience is that people tend to remember things like a room they stay in when they are there for more than a class session.
What a fascinating case. For a moment I thought you where going to say the mother was seeing her daughter's ghost, and I was a bit surprised to hear she actually turned up alive after having been missing for 4 weeks.
Another interesting video, thank you.
This is a fantastic mystery. If I had to pick a side I'd say she was kidnapped but probably wasn't able to recollect everything because of PTSD. At least she got out of England and got a new life in America! Fast car's & movie stars.
agreed! people who have gone through trauma and/or brain damage can be prone to suggestion. Brain tries to fill in the space to deal with whats missing.
But this doesn't explain why she was kidnapped. Why was she targeted for kidnapping? That's the real unsolved mystery.
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A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
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Kinfolk said Jed move away from there
Said Californy is the place you ought to be
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Really enjoyable change with a mystery instead of a murder. I hope we get more like this story as well as continuing murder cases too.
Thanks for another great case presentation Briefey. Hopefully you and everyone is doing well. Have a great day!
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Oh, something undoubtedly happened to Elizabeth. You mentioned that she was found in the Bedlam area, so she could have had memory loss and been imprisoned there before ultimately escaping confinement, which could be done to anyone in those days without they themselves giving permission for it. I think she got frightened and may have told her mother that she had been kidnapped and attempted to be forced into prostitution, because of the stigma attached to the whole insane asylum system that society was against. It likely just got out of hand, and she was frightened about the consequences, so she stuck with her story.
This truly was a fascinating and yet puzzling story about, Elizabeth Canning. People said it didn't fit her personality to just disappear but yet she did and people seem to be torn, as to what really happened to her. She may have simply blocked out the kidnapping and trauma, and that could be why there's contradictions in her telling about what happened to her. Great investigating and presentation, as always.
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Thank you for the Monday morning upload. I'm not under threat of flood yet here. Thank goodness!
We didn't hear what the accused had to say, except one of them wasn't in town at the time of the abduction. The case got so much media attention so if Elizabeth had been somewhere else, someone must had seen her and would have to had come forward to tell about it. It didn't happen, so I think she was speaking the truth. Except, if she was held by someone else, someone she wouldn't name and who had no interest in coming forward.
Love waking up to Brief Case! This case was very interesting, I can't stop thinking about what could have really happened. Another amazing video as always! 💖Elaina
It’s always a pleasure to listen to your posts. You were my first true crime channel and still my favourite. PEACE ;]
Thankyou :)
I think Elizabeth was telling the truth, but she got the people and house incorrect. She said it took about 5 hours to walk home, but the house they zoned in on was only about 10 miles from hers. That's a long time to be walking 10 miles... Even walking at a slow pace (25 min per mile), she should have arrived home in about 4 hours. The only reason they zoned in on the house in the first place, was because someone thought it was similar. But the loft room didn't match and the appearance of the female captor didn't match her statements. I have a feeling the house where the kidnapping actually took place, was a few miles farther down the same road or a different road entirely and she was too traumatized to make an accurate identification at the time. I don't think it helped that Mary was Romani, since they were considered thieves and less-than by the English population at the time. She (and the others by association) became the perfect target, due to the prevailing prejudices of the time and I am not surprised they centered the blame on her/them, even with things not adding up.
I think she would have stopped to rest. Don't yo
I Love it when it is time for Brief Case to upload a new case because I really enjoy all of his cases
Interesting. Never heard of Elizabeth Canning. I like hearing historical cases, rather than today’s. There’s something more intriguing. Thank you.
You do such a great job at these old, obscure cases! Love it!
I think she disappeared on her own for whatever reason. She didn't think the story she told would implicate anyone. When iit did, she felt trapped into sticking to it.
I would love to see this as a movie.
The punishment for stealing a corset was the death penalty?!? Wow!
a lot for stealing someone's knickers. So called civilization was questionable back then. If you could survive a person would be better off living in the middle of nowhere as far away from people as they could get back then.
Oh yes. Many of Australia’s convicts were convicted of stealing small lengths of cloth or clothing and only lived because their death sentences were commuted. British Law was entirely about the value of property over people.
@@Renfair333 So true. A lot of prisoners were "Transported" for property crimes.
Meanwhile, you can make up a false sob story, annihilating somebody's reputation forever and only get 1 month for it... Justice...
@@Renfair333 That's still true in a way. If you steal or kill an expensive show dog, it's a felony, but kill a mutt and you're fine
So excited to watch!!
What a perfect way to start the day! Thanks as always for all you do. I hope you enjoy your day.
Thank you! You too!
Stellar video. I love that I’ve never heard of these cases. Very intriguing. On one hand, I feel like she’s lying but then again she could have been traumatized so much that she got details wrong. Idk 🤷🏻♀️
I've learned alot In nursing school about trauma such as this. Your brain can shut down to protect you from rembering certain things.
@@lorettacadman8466 yep it definitely can block out traumatic events. I have a black hole in my memory from when I was sexually abused as a child. I can remember before and after the worst time but I can’t remember anything in between. The other times he hurt me are gone now too, they disappeared from my memory after the worst happened. It’s strange to know it happened but not have any memory of it. I’m ok with not knowing as I’ve forgiven him and don’t dwell on things I can’t change.
Ahhh...just what I needed to start this Monday morning! Awesome video, as always! Hope you had a wonderful weekend, and a wonderful Thanksgiving, @Criminally Listed, as well as all of your subscribers (if you all celebrate Thanksgiving!) Hope everyone has a great week! 😊
I watch criminally listed as well. Brief case is an amazing true crime TH-cam.
@@Jaggededge112 I meant to put Brief Case! I actually watched a Criminally Listed video right before this one, and had that one on my brain! Lol! Thanks for the correction! I'll just blame it on Monday! I'm still trying to get back into the groove after being off work for the last 9 days!
@@JenX_1973 lol I do it all the time.
Great mystery! Thanks so much for your consistent uploads!
My pleasure!
I love the integrity with which you tell your stories. You don't judge or dramatize it anymore than in just the telling.
Thank you
Fascinating!!! I just love hearing these old, more obscure historical cases! And so well done, too. Thank you, once again, for time well spent!! ☺️
Have a wonderful Monday BC!!! Your the best way to start a week off right! Thanks for all your hard work.
To be poor in London back then must have been harsh. Not only do you have poverty to deal with, you stand a chance of getting the death penalty for the least little crime! Thanks, Brief Case, for another fantastic video!
Thanks Toni
Don't be a thief then!
Definitely a curious case. Poor girl, whatever the truth.
@Brief Case Thank you for another fascinating, enigmatic, "new" (to me) case study! With regard to Elizabeth's alleged perjury, one thing I kept coming back to was that she did have a significant head injury which could very well have affected her memory. The fact that no one besides the victim and likely perpetrators came forward with an alternative explanation is a bit of a red flag as well. As you're far more familiar with this case than I am, I would love to hear your opinion. Thanks for another banger. 😍
I've been impatiently waiting, good afternoon BC family 😊
So happy to see a new video. I was growing impatient. 😢 always love to see your videos.
Every Monday 12pm UK time
Old cases are the best I can get more into the old ones more than the newer crimes. This is an awesome channel.x
Good morning Briefies. No sleep yet. I dunno. But this is an unexpected treat as I've been watching previously uploaded videos. Hope you are well Briefy. Happy holidays everyone. From Texas...Mimi.. out-🎄💎❤
Good morning!
Hi Mimi! We all meet here same time every Monday. Feel free to join the party!
Hiya Mimi from snowy Scotland Xxx 🙏🏼
As to Elizabeth's memory of the event, it reminds me of one of the more modernish cases of memory based convictions and who you believe :
Kevin Green was convicted in 1979 on his then wife's testimony that he had been the man who assaulted her, caused her brain trauma from a blow to the head and the loss of their full term baby. This was based on the last memory she had of him and their interaction before the attack -Of them having a heated argument though after that point she didn't remember anything specific about the actual attack. 16 years later DNA exonerated Green as the culprit but he would later go on to settle a wrongful death suit brought on by the ex-wife after he was freed. She maintained that HE had been the one that rendered her unconscious which allowed her to be assaulted by the real perpetrator.
Maybe BC and Crime Reel can cover it as a cross over since the real culprit was a serial killer. Like maybe one does the 1979 case while the other does the one about the serial killer and tie it in that way? Anyhow it's a very interesting case in how convinced we can be that our memories are accurate even after evidence has proven other wise.
I will look into that one - Thanks
Very interesting case. Good video as always BC!
Boom!!! Brief case in the room
GM! Nice coverage 👍🏾
Thanks :)
I love these cases from the 18th century. Can you please do older cases like this one when you can. I know the research on these has too be really hard, but they are so intriguing. Thank you for your hard work BC...We love U.
Good morning briefcase, happy Monday. Thanks for another interesting
video. Keep up your good work,god bless you 🙏🙏
Thank you!
So glad we got a new video:) great way to start my morning:) ty 😊
Good morning Brief Case or afternoon. Great case today. Thank you for making my Mondays wonderful. Have a wonderful week ❤️
See you next Monday 🤗
I so enjoy your telling of these stories. This one is very intriguing.
I'm new to your channel, but I am in love with your delivery of these fascinating stories. Victorian England is my most favourite era from history. Thank you, thank you!! ❤️🇨🇦
Thankyou so much Theresa
Thank you again BC for another wonderful and informative crime stories from the past. Very much appreciate your time researching and posting your videos every week. I hope TH-cam knows how much we Brief Case fans are here to support you🙏🙏🙏❤️🥰
Thankyou
Another brilliant upload Brief!!! Please keep up the wonderful work (remember to give yourself self care though!) Thank you!!!
Hello Bcase! You and your videos are extremely great! Love your narration voice. Thank you
I listened twice to understand better. Poor girl, must be horrible for her. No one in Court believed her story. And she died too young, hope she was happy with her marriage. Thank you Bcase. I was impressed with this case too. You did a great job! Ads👍🏻 Will relisten more of your contents later
Thank you too!
@@BriefCaseOfficial
My pleasure! I'm relisten again after 1 hour rest. Really liked this video. Thanks
I'm also interested in what others think happened. I myself can't really fathom why she would do this other than maybe wanting to run off with a boy and then changing her mind. Or maybe her plans didn't work out and she didn't know how to go back home without making up a story. Or perhaps she just wanted the attention for some crazy reason. This is a head scratcher for sure. I'm glad I voted for the eighteenth century case in your poll. It was definitely an interesting one. Thank you for your time, energy and skill Mr. Case. ❤️
Like someone else in the comments section said, I wonder if she was actually sexually assaulted and because of the shame and stigma back in the 17th & 18th century she or along with her mother made up that story to keep her virtue intact. It sounds as though something did happen to her although I don't believe it happened exactly as she said.
@@elizabeth1989 yes. I hadn't thought of that. It's definitely a logical possibility.
I'm really trying to get away from true crime but your brother keeps bringing me here. Happily, you cover lesser known and more historical crimes. Thank you.
I don't think my brother would be bringing you here, interested to know who is though :)
"I keep trying to get out of this but they keep pulling me back in." Al Pacino, Godfather Ii.
Where do you find such interesting cases? Thank you for all the details and research so that we may look forward to Monday mornings in Alberta! :)
Thank you so much for the most interesting story, as always excellently narrated👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Thanks for watching
Wow Brief Case, this is definitely one of the best stories you have narrated thus far.
Alot of detailed information that you uncovered about this case is remarkable.
Thank you for sharing this sad and complicated story with us.
Your delivery is spectacular!
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Thanks for listening
Thanks BC! Great way to start my Monday!!😊✅❤️
The pictures were fantastic!
Thanks Monica
Another great video BC. I love the uniqueness of this channel, you'll be hard pressed to find another that covers such niche cases as Brief Case.
Keep up the great work 👍
Thanks hope all OK with you
@@BriefCaseOfficial All good BC 😁 back to putting out content now, bit more lighthearted for the time being.
Another great narration, thank you for the time and effort you put into them.
Great job B.C...very strange case!!
Thanks :)
Wow! I wouldn't have wanted to live in that era! Assault is not a crime but stealing something gets you the death penalty? Holy moley! Thanks for the great work you do! Love your episodes!
You make my workday better ☺️ such a treat! Ty!!
Love your content. Helps me get to sleep and although my TV shuts off after an hour the content keeps playing. So while I'm not awake to give Likes, you are getting plays and I hope it helps you keep this thing funded! Thank you!
Thankyou
I love this channel. The cases are unique to only this channel. I have never heard any of these cases on any other channel. Keep up the God work.. love from St. Lucia 🇱🇨
Thankyou
Perfect timing for sleep
My favourite time of the week 😊
Never disappointed. Always click 'like' well before the story starts x
I absolutely love these older Brief Case editions! If the case occurred before photography I an as excited as a child. Mind you, all B.C.s are a special viewing experience. The Monday morning coffee and B.C. ritual is a great way to begin a week.
Early for once. This has made my morning
This case as fascinated me for a long while too--thank you for making a video about it. It's such a strange story.
Haha you did an awesome job on this! Definitely one of the best BC stories. Send us more of your criminals!
A huge twist Brief Case. Thank you for ALL your hard work putting history to the NOW.
Thanks for watching
Love from Greece , glad she had a better life in america, love to hear your stories take care stay safe
Absolutely love the voice reciting the cases and I love the cases I love the older ones love the new ones does not matter it helps me relax at night like somebody's reading me as story thank you so much
Thankyou
Good morning BC.
As always BC with morning coffee, always great.
This really was a thought-provoking case for sure. Harkens modern plight of human trafficking, but at the same time the ??? nature of crime classification and punishments of the era. Thanks BC!
Excellent as always thank you xx
Thanks again!
Fantastic story. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching
Interesting case BC, I always enjoy your videos, looking forward to the next!
Thankyou
BRAVO ! BC , I STILL LOVE YOUR MURDEROUS STORIES OF ANTIQUITY............ THE BEST OF ALL. GREAT STORYTELLING AS ALWAYS . DARRELL BRONX NY USA
Another amazing video! Thank you thank you!!!
Thankyou so much :)
Thank you, BC. Fascinating, confusing case.
I liked this one!,I'm glad you had lots of pictures too!🙂
Thank you BC have a wonderful week!
Thanks You too
Wow! That was really great! I think she was telling the truth. Why would she make up such a story? Buuuut, there is this little niggle at the back of my mind!
Many thanks as always B.C. 😊😊
Thank you for all your hard work. I love laying and listening to your channel
Thankyou
Thankyou for another great post.
Thanks for watching
Wonderfully done. Keep up the awesome work
Thankyou :)
Dang! This story is crazy 🤪! My opinion about what happened to her is up in the air.
This assault is a civil issue that's amazing. Good morning briefcases this was a good one
Wow. Thank you BC. I've never heard anything like it. You've outdone yourself. Stay safe. 🌺
Thank you
Good one mate!!! Thank you!!!
What a roller coaster! Idk how you find these. I will definitely submit any good ones I hear in my audiobooks.