He's echoing the neocons blueprint for a new world order, they put in writing what Oliver is dramatising in this scene. it's a document called "the project for the new american century". It's also echoing George Kennan.
W had seven years to get Bin Laden and never did. Even said himself at a press conference "to be honest with you I just don't spend that much time on him." They were too busy trying to push the war and dressing up W in fighter pilot uniforms.
Sullyhogs he should have been a national hero, he could have stopped the war. But the thing is, he would have been a pariah because public opinion would have been "we should have went into Iraq", only in hindsight is the Iraq war a disaster.
Great man . The Democrats are to far the other way ... weak pansies to territorists and dictators . Republicans went to far with the ill thought out war ... lots of lives lost for greedy oil companies and banks all false bullshit . Obama continued this on in a more sneaky way ... pretending oh we lefty’s don’t do evil things honest ..: what a load of bollocks that was ... stupidly handling over money to hazebaloa and ISIS groups complete fucking idiot
nah. there's things i like about Colin Powell, but 'national hero'?? --nah. He ultimately allow all of what transpired to happen, on his watch. He was complicit. He peddled the lies of the admin & KNEW at the time they were lies. Not to mention his record in Vietnam, specifically, The Mỹ Lai Massacre. Nah,... no national hero. Just another man. ...following orders.
pamela s Every active veteran of the armed forces is a hero in my book. I have huge respect for this who served. As for Colin, what was his connection to MyLai? Seriously, I’d like to know As for just following orders, that’s what soldiers do. I do agree he was complicit here but his choices were either go along or resign. And having the military mind, you don’t abandon your commander in chief in moments like this. Bob Dole and John McCain were similar. You follow orders Once President Clinton called senators Dole and Gingrich to the Oval Office during a particularly difficult time between the White House and Congress. Gingrich didn’t want to go, he was so mad. Dole said that when the commander in chief calls, you show up. It was respect for the title of commander in chief regardless of who owns the title
@@theemperor1379 It is not the truth, it's just an assortment of silly left-wing tropes about America, Bush, and the Iraq War. You do realize that not everything in US foreign policy revolves around "muh oil". It's for sure an important consideration, but it's not the only one. And with respect to the oil consideration, it's about ensuring a steady supply of oil to the whole world, that it isn't used as an ideological or state tool to wage economic war. It's not about "mwahahaha we want your oil mwahahaha".
@@stefan4159 Sure. It's not just about oil. It's also about imperialism. It's also about greed, power and control. It doesn't matter what other reason there is. America is a solider of evil.
@@theemperor1379 No, it is about ensuring a liberal democratic world order. Don't fall for anti-American propaganda, when if you actually consider history, America is the guarantor of peace and stability of the world.
Your Message starts at ~ 05:00 but nevertheless thanks for uploading the whole scene! It's a fine example for groupthink in goverments (everywhere) and once again respect to Colin Powell
This is just Oliver Stone's assumption on General Powell's contribution. Fact: Powell went to the UN Security Council claiming there are nukes in Iraq (which was a lie).
@@stefan4159 What is true-nature of threat America faces? Let me guess, countries or ideas that were not "American" enough? That's like 90% of world ye buddy.
@@soedirmanfighter5319 No, the threat that America faces is from the forces of totalitarianism like from China and Iran. And not just America, Western civilization in general with its emphasis on freedom and democratic values. That's why the Ukraine war is so important: if we don't fight the Russians and other freedom haters over there, we'll be fighting them here in the West (spoiler: I'm not american).
It’s really sad to see how ridiculous was the discussion and the decision to destroy my country, “Researchers estimated there were 405,000 excess Iraqi deaths attributable to the war through mid-2011. They also attempted to account for deaths missed because families had fled the country, and estimated 55,805 total deaths, bringing the total to nearly 461,000”
Iran not Iraq....iran not Afghanistan.... Iran not Saudi.... Iran not Qatar..... Iran not China..... Iran not Russia..... Iran is a 7,000-year-old civilization. Iran is the only country that does not have Independence Day because it has not been occupied yet. Once you understand these concepts, you can understand the meaning of Iran. Iran is not looking for a war and does not want to go to war
Cheney and Bush were straight up like Vader in Revenge of the Sith: "I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire." "If you're not with me, then you're my enemy."
Hey do you think all of the people in that room regret not listening to the most experienced and knowledgeable military person in the room which was Colin Powell?
Even Obama knew that Cheney, whether you like his methods or not, is correct here about why we can't just "leave" the Middle East. That's why Obama didn't pull out out our forces even when he - and his supporters - wanted to do it. We have to be there, in a big way, or we leave ourselves vulnerable on many, many fronts.
your creating vulnerability by staying. bomb so many innocents that terrorism is increased because of it. who was even talking about terrorism pre gulf war?
Anthony Serocco It's a nice detail they put to show how US foreign politics was (and still is) back then. Remember that Western support (I'm talking Western in general, not just American) for the Tibet movement is pretty big.
great piece. an insight into how the iraq war started. its all about usa empire. shame colin powell lied to the un abour wmd. otherwise he was a hero. as a soldier he knew about the nastiness of war. something these civilian neocons did not. empire is always a bad idea.
No, it's not about "muh empire", it's about ensuring an open world market for middle-class Americans to sell their goods, because America is a merchant nation and a trading nation. And that market requires freedom and democracy. An actual empire (not the one you isolationists imagine) would be counterproductive. Turn off Infowars or whatever the hell you're watching. And besides, Tom Cotton and John McCain were soldiers, and they were also neocons.
I see this film being from dubyas perspective, he's in charge, Cheney and rumsfeld are kind of ineffectual etc. While vice is from Cheney's and George is an ignorant fool.
This Is all bullshit btw, the movie was made during 43 time in office. Many books are out to how all this actually played out. This movie is so stupid.
Ha, Iran's a mess. The U.S. extracts less oil from Iraq now than they did prior to Sadam in power. I work in oil markets and it is a silly scene. Even Oliver Stone told Bill Maher that it's not a historical scene.
Not at all. Saddam's antics are what started the war. He welcomed in terrorists who were wanted internationally, he assassinated his defectors in Europe and London, he stole from the UN, he tried to assassinate H.W. Bush, he invaded Kuwait, etc. The U.S. also had weak intelligence. If we went there for oil...then why don't we have a majority of their oil to offset our costs of the war? Even then why would the U.S. let the country elect its democratic leader when the country is majority Shia thus more inclined to follow Iran's example which is to do business with BP, Russia, and China primarily. Even now, Exxon has had trouble in Iraq because they have had a hard time breaking even from drilling in southern Iraq while Shell (non-US) and BP (non-US) drill in mainly in the North which is better to drill in. That's why this video is so silly.
"a forever war, everywhere three four wars at a time "...!
Does Oliver Stone have the ability to predict the future?
@@josephballin9937 Yes
He's echoing the neocons blueprint for a new world order, they put in writing what Oliver is dramatising in this scene. it's a document called "the project for the new american century". It's also echoing George Kennan.
Iran🇮🇷
Real Empire
Iran is the poop of islamisim
The ironic thing about Powell's speech, we DID use special forces to get Bin Laden in Pakistan.
Obama also let him go in 3 separate occasions! Oh yeah that doesn't help the leftist narrative....
W had seven years to get Bin Laden and never did. Even said himself at a press conference "to be honest with you I just don't spend that much time on him." They were too busy trying to push the war and dressing up W in fighter pilot uniforms.
AJ Ocean Obama was the president who gave the order that eliminated the man responsible for 911. And that just still turns Republican’s red with fury.
+Daniel Ryan He _inherited_ a years old operation from the previous administration.
Mr. White and the previous administration might have been the ones to get Bin Laden-if they hadn’t taken their eyes off the ball.
Colin Powell is a national hero. God bless him.
+mike jones nope
Sullyhogs he should have been a national hero, he could have stopped the war. But the thing is, he would have been a pariah because public opinion would have been "we should have went into Iraq", only in hindsight is the Iraq war a disaster.
Great man . The Democrats are to far the other way ... weak pansies to territorists and dictators . Republicans went to far with the ill thought out war ... lots of lives lost for greedy oil companies and banks all false bullshit . Obama continued this on in a more sneaky way ... pretending oh we lefty’s don’t do evil things honest ..: what a load of bollocks that was ... stupidly handling over money to hazebaloa and ISIS groups complete fucking idiot
nah. there's things i like about Colin Powell, but 'national hero'?? --nah. He ultimately allow all of what transpired to happen, on his watch. He was complicit. He peddled the lies of the admin & KNEW at the time they were lies. Not to mention his record in Vietnam, specifically, The Mỹ Lai Massacre.
Nah,... no national hero. Just another man. ...following orders.
pamela s Every active veteran of the armed forces is a hero in my book. I have huge respect for this who served. As for Colin, what was his connection to MyLai? Seriously, I’d like to know
As for just following orders, that’s what soldiers do. I do agree he was complicit here but his choices were either go along or resign. And having the military mind, you don’t abandon your commander in chief in moments like this. Bob Dole and John McCain were similar. You follow orders
Once President Clinton called senators Dole and Gingrich to the Oval Office during a particularly difficult time between the White House and Congress. Gingrich didn’t want to go, he was so mad. Dole said that when the commander in chief calls, you show up. It was respect for the title of commander in chief regardless of who owns the title
I wonder how accurate this is
It's literally the truth.
@@theemperor1379 It is not the truth, it's just an assortment of silly left-wing tropes about America, Bush, and the Iraq War. You do realize that not everything in US foreign policy revolves around "muh oil". It's for sure an important consideration, but it's not the only one. And with respect to the oil consideration, it's about ensuring a steady supply of oil to the whole world, that it isn't used as an ideological or state tool to wage economic war. It's not about "mwahahaha we want your oil mwahahaha".
@@stefan4159 Sure. It's not just about oil. It's also about imperialism. It's also about greed, power and control. It doesn't matter what other reason there is. America is a solider of evil.
@@theemperor1379 No, it is about ensuring a liberal democratic world order. Don't fall for anti-American propaganda, when if you actually consider history, America is the guarantor of peace and stability of the world.
@@stefan4159 I think it’s time for you to wake up
this is a great part of the movie
"EMPIRE"
REAL... empire.
NO ONE WILL EVER FUCK WITH US AGAIN.
😂😂🖕🖕🖕
@@thehedgehogsdilemma9478 Who did fuck you before? The uk?
Exactly. This is the best way how american love war and steeling others nation life , land and source. How american are sickmind media.
7:53 *a forever war, everywhere, 3 or 4 wars at a time* ... we got that NOW !!! 😲😲😲😲😲😲
lol you can say that again...
Your Message starts at ~ 05:00 but nevertheless thanks for uploading the whole scene! It's a fine example for groupthink in goverments (everywhere) and once again respect to Colin Powell
This is just Oliver Stone's assumption on General Powell's contribution. Fact: Powell went to the UN Security Council claiming there are nukes in Iraq (which was a lie).
@@GrayFoxROU That's why when Powell resigned in 2005 it's clear that his speech @ the UN was the worst moment of his life. Simply because he lied.
Josh Brolin looks so much like George W. Bush, it's terrifying.
I thought he did a great job in this movie. I wasn't convinced on Brolin till this and There Will Be Blood.
No
This movie literally tells you what war on terror really is all about but americans still burry their head in the sand screaming «terrorism »
No, this movie appears to be a left-wing propaganda film designed to mislead Americans and global viewers about the true nature of the threat we face.
@@stefan4159 What is true-nature of threat America faces? Let me guess, countries or ideas that were not "American" enough?
That's like 90% of world ye buddy.
@@soedirmanfighter5319 No, the threat that America faces is from the forces of totalitarianism like from China and Iran. And not just America, Western civilization in general with its emphasis on freedom and democratic values. That's why the Ukraine war is so important: if we don't fight the Russians and other freedom haters over there, we'll be fighting them here in the West (spoiler: I'm not american).
Empire. Real Empire! Nobody will fuck us again! :X
It’s really sad to see how ridiculous was the discussion and the decision to destroy my country,
“Researchers estimated there were 405,000 excess Iraqi deaths attributable to the war through mid-2011.
They also attempted to account for deaths missed because families had fled the country, and estimated 55,805 total deaths, bringing the total to nearly 461,000”
Freedom is expensive.
God bless you and your people my dear friend!
Iran not Iraq....iran not Afghanistan.... Iran not Saudi.... Iran not Qatar..... Iran not China..... Iran not Russia..... Iran is a 7,000-year-old civilization. Iran is the only country that does not have Independence Day because it has not been occupied yet. Once you understand these concepts, you can understand the meaning of Iran.
Iran is not looking for a war and does not want to go to war
This film is way superior to VICE. In every aspect.
It's obvious that the director of vice is inspired by Oliver stone, including using historical stock footage.
Thank you for posting this, Azeem! 😀
you're welcome
He did not just say yellow cake. Nigga I got some yellow cake right here.
That Cheney part from 5:43 was fucking powerful
Cheney and Bush were straight up like Vader in Revenge of the Sith:
"I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire."
"If you're not with me, then you're my enemy."
Hey do you think all of the people in that room regret not listening to the most experienced and knowledgeable military person in the room which was Colin Powell?
I don't think Colin Powell ever talked really in those meetings
Iran here we go.
hahahaha. Damn man. WWIII in the making.
Moron.
@@divinginthedeep Not a joke anymore.
This was a powerful scene!
What Cheney said was so very true! "Empire".
Our great President is returning America as the dominant world Empire.
hes a bloated fuckface and no he isnt. hes alienating US from its allies
Even Obama knew that Cheney, whether you like his methods or not, is correct here about why we can't just "leave" the Middle East. That's why Obama didn't pull out out our forces even when he - and his supporters - wanted to do it. We have to be there, in a big way, or we leave ourselves vulnerable on many, many fronts.
Bullshit
your creating vulnerability by staying. bomb so many innocents that terrorism is increased because of it. who was even talking about terrorism pre gulf war?
What is the name of the movie
W. (2008)
TH-cam:Confession of an ECONOMIQUE Hit Man by John Perkins!
Is this documented from a memoir? Any official record? Or just Stone's interpretation.
I'd actually like to find this out myself, too.
Knowing Oliver Stone facts are probably extremely extrapolated.
Guys the name of the movie ??? Thanks
W. (2008)
Movie name W.
Thankyou
Bush🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
6:05
Zbiggy's Grand Chessboard!
All of the people portrayed in this scene should tried for war crimes, including Colin Powell.
What's odd is how Tibet is separate from China on their map.
free tibet
Anthony Serocco It's a nice detail they put to show how US foreign politics was (and still is) back then. Remember that Western support (I'm talking Western in general, not just American) for the Tibet movement is pretty big.
What’s name movie?
W. (2008)
great piece. an insight into how the iraq war started. its all about usa empire. shame colin powell lied to the un abour wmd. otherwise he was a hero. as a soldier he knew about the nastiness of war. something these civilian neocons did not. empire is always a bad idea.
No, it's not about "muh empire", it's about ensuring an open world market for middle-class Americans to sell their goods, because America is a merchant nation and a trading nation. And that market requires freedom and democracy. An actual empire (not the one you isolationists imagine) would be counterproductive. Turn off Infowars or whatever the hell you're watching. And besides, Tom Cotton and John McCain were soldiers, and they were also neocons.
@Florian Cravic What the hell are you talking about?
من يتبرع بترجمته ونكون له من الشاكرين
Rummy Rummy Rummy. ..
Seemed like the John C Calhoun in the 21th century.
Everyone battle for their poverty.
8:20
🖤🥀
This is not empire
Dick Cheney had some great ideas, very smart man!
Big thoughts 💭
I see this film being from dubyas perspective, he's in charge, Cheney and rumsfeld are kind of ineffectual etc. While vice is from Cheney's and George is an ignorant fool.
Fool me once shame on........shame on you......
This Is all bullshit btw, the movie was made during 43 time in office. Many books are out to how all this actually played out. This movie is so stupid.
Good movie
I've always thought Cheney was the big boss man behind this administration. Ahhh... the word "Empire" makes me swell with American pride.
You are part of the problem if you think that. The world needs to live together.
I miss that administration
Band of geniuses
Join the military?
SC ok
Welp I gotta go with Cheney on this one.
Yeah, why? Are you dumb?
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MY GOODNESS LAAAAAWD IT'S TEXAN THANOS!!!!!!
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This scene is not historically accurate.
+upinsmoke2897 How so? In that Iran has not been invaded yet?
Ha, Iran's a mess. The U.S. extracts less oil from Iraq now than they did prior to Sadam in power. I work in oil markets and it is a silly scene. Even Oliver Stone told Bill Maher that it's not a historical scene.
upinsmoke2897 Do you think the aim of this war was oil only?
Not at all. Saddam's antics are what started the war. He welcomed in terrorists who were wanted internationally, he assassinated his defectors in Europe and London, he stole from the UN, he tried to assassinate H.W. Bush, he invaded Kuwait, etc. The U.S. also had weak intelligence.
If we went there for oil...then why don't we have a majority of their oil to offset our costs of the war? Even then why would the U.S. let the country elect its democratic leader when the country is majority Shia thus more inclined to follow Iran's example which is to do business with BP, Russia, and China primarily. Even now, Exxon has had trouble in Iraq because they have had a hard time breaking even from drilling in southern Iraq while Shell (non-US) and BP (non-US) drill in mainly in the North which is better to drill in.
That's why this video is so silly.
upinsmoke2897 Lol...It's not true because Oliver stone said it yet a sitting General said it was going to happen this way