✅ [Free PDFs] Selling Puts for Monthly Income + Put Credit Spreads + Options Trading for Beginners PDF (170+ Pages): geni.us/options-trading-pdf What did you think about this video? Leave comments/thoughts below. -Chris
Thanks for the note Evan! Yeah the RR calculation is interesting and not flattering when you widen the strikes. But a super wide put spread is still better than a short naked put in my opinion.
I would like to see a risk graph for the small accounts scenario, the one with just $1 dollar wide spread, also how do you create does risk graphs (not the app just the data). Really like your content keep up the good work.
Chris, Another outstanding video. Your explanation and graphics are so well done! How do you determine profit if the stock price is between the strikes at expiration?
Thanks! You would use the following calculation: Short Put Strike - Stock Price With a maximum being the strike width and the minimum being zero (no negative numbers). Because a vertical spread like this can only be worth zero or the width of the strikes, or anything in-between (if the stock is in-between the strikes). So if you sold a 200/185 put spread and the stock is at $192, the put spread is worth: $200 - $192 = $8. If the stock is $198, the put spread is worth: $200 - $198 = $2 It's basically the intrinsic value of the short put.
But what if you are silly and you let it expire between the strike prices? Obviously you could have gotten out of the trade before the end of day...but what if you lost your internet connection at 345 on Friday? @@projectfinance
Very informative!! I needed to hear about the different wordings for the spreads and alll about put credit spreads to gain more profit in my portfolio on Robinhood.
Great video, super clear. I only wish you went over finding the right time to roll your put credit spread. Can't seem to any much videos that go over it.
Chris. Great video and very clearly presented. What happens if you place a 5 point spread for example buy $100 sell $95 and the stock price drops to $97 on the last day. I’m forced to buy at $100 but the sell never triggers?
Your spread would be worth $3.00 if it was on the last day since the 100 put would be worth $3 and the 97 put would be worth pennies or zero if it was right at expiration. In that scenario, you would buy 100 shares of stock at $100 if assigned on the short put. Or, you could buy back the spread for $3.00 to close the trade. In reality, if that happened on the day of expiration, you would not get assigned and you'd be able to close the spread before the close because the short 97 put would still have decent amounts of extrinsic value in the first few hours of the day.
Just to clarify this question, to be a Bull Put Spread wouldn't it be: Sell the 100 Strike and Buy the 95 Strike, otherwise it's a Debit Spread when selling the lower strike and buying the higher strike?
Very informative video. Selecting strike prices is something I struggle with so I learned a lot from your risk/reward comparison of widening the spread vs trading more contracts with the narrower spread to scale up the trade.
Best video I've seen on put credit spreads. To the point with great examples. I also appreciate how you explained managing the spread, i.e., what happens at expiration and how you might close the spread before expiration. Well done.
The RR is useful but doesn't take into consideration the probability of profit. If you widen the strikes you also lowers the breakeven prices and increase probability of profit. So buying multiple narrow credit spread will take more of a move in the underlying to be profitable compared to a wider credit spread. Most the time you shouldn't hold credit spread into expiration anyways so widening the spread maybe better in general. 18:48
How does one get approved to trade credit spreads? The brokers won't say what I need to do to get approval. Just that the credit spreads are "3rd level" . No answer to my request for specific steps to take to get approval. Very frustrating. I have a funded account that is just sitting unused. Your presentation is very good. Thank you.
you’ll need to apply for approval and answer a questionnaire and claim that you have expert level knowledge and experience with options/derivatives. It also helps to claim that you have high net worth and liquidity. Many brokers are strict about spreads and option privileges. I use tastytrade which gives full options approval with margin accounts and doesn’t use the tiered system.
The stock price collapses and you lose way more than you can make. It seems like the stock “won’t drop that far” but it will happen eventually if you trade the strategy enough
I sold a put credit spread and the value is showing more then what I sold it for. For ex. I sold 25 contracts for .10. It is now showing a value of $300. Is it possible to make more than what I sold it for?
Can you give exact trade details? If you sold 25 spreads for $0.10, that means each spread collected $10, or $250 total. If the total value of the spreads is now $300, that means you have a $50 loss on your position currently.
Please DO NOT display full screen shot of your face during your presentation. keep your picture in a very small frame in any quadrant. Let the subject you are discussing occupy the entire duration while you are talking. It is very annoying when you cut your presentation constantly with your full face. Was how Tony does it in his Option play presentation
I really do like the way you explain things simple and to the point...In the Spread you reference at the 14 min mark (Short 190, Long 185)...what happens if the stock ends at 187 at expiration? Does that mean only short put 190 would be exercised, since it didn't shoot down to the 185? And you'd have to buy 100 shares at 190?
Yes exactly, if only one option is ITM at expiration, only that option gets exercised/assigned (depends on if you're long or short that option) and the other goes out worthless. So yes, if you short a 190/185 put spread and the stock is 187 at expiration, the 190 short put gets assigned and you buy 100 shares at $190/share. The 185 put goes out worthless. Seeing that buying 100 shares for $190/share is a $19,000 position, you would need to close your spread before expiration if you could not carry this share position (i.e. you don't have $19K to buy the shares). If you only have $10K in your account, you could still get assigned on the short 190 put and then you'd be long stock on margin (you own $19K worth of stock in a $10K account). You'd need to be careful here and probably want to close the shares. I always recommend closing spreads before expiration/on the day of expiration, especially if they are partially ITM or one option is close to being ITM.
The short put will be assigned (you'll buy 100 shares per short put contract) and the long put expires worthless. The result is you'll end up with stock. If the stock position is too large for your account you'll need to close it or your brokerage will close it for you.
When you buy back the credit spread, is it better to buy it back at a lower price than market rate?.....This can be confusing. Just want to confirm before I do something that puts more money into my account
Hello, when you talk about maximum loss potential on a credit spread like in the video can you elaborate what this means if the share price goes against you quickly and is ITM. Are you up for just the maximum loss money wise or do you also get assigned the shares? Thanks 🙏
If your put credit spread go against you by a huge amount; should you just let it go to expiration? Or should you close it because the losses will be limited? 🤔
What if the stock price at expiration is in between the puts - below the short put, but above the long put? You'd be assigned the shares I assume, which could be very expensive. What do you think is the best way to avoid that?
Exactly, you'd be assigned on the short put (buy 100 shares per short put) and the long put goes out worthless. The best way to avoid this is to always close options before expiration to avoid assignment/exercise, especially if one of the options in a spread is ITM or near being ITM. And by before expiration I just mean before the closing bell on expiration day.
Yes, that is the normal way to do it! That way, the position makes the full profit even if the stock price doesn't move, and can even decrease a bit as long as it's above your short strike at expiration. However, the further away from the stock price you go, the less money you'll be able to make and the more risk you'll have since it's a higher probability trade.
Could I do this if I had a super widespread. Let’s say I got assigned on the short side and I don’t want to exercise the long to cover. Now I am owning 100 shares that I don’t have the funds to cover, could I just sell the 100 shares and lose out on the difference while keeping the long open? I am also thinking about this more towards a LEAPS situation, but the same scenario applies if that’s even possible to do? Thank you!
@@fongheenkitaloka2800 No, for instance if you got assigned on the short put and the options had 10 days left until expiration then you could continue holding the long put for the remaining 10 days.
Hey Chris, I have a question. What should I do if the short put gets assigned on a Friday? I'm in a bull put spread on the spy and got assigned 1000 shares on the spy over the weekend. I don't even know how I got assigned if I don't have that margin amount. I still have the 10 puts in the money
You don't need the money to buy the stock since it happens forcefully. What happens is your account is put in a huge negative margin situation, but as long as you still have the long put you aren't at risk of massive losses. Your risk profile is the same as the original put spread position after assignment, except it's actually more profitable on the upside. To close out the position you'll need to sell the stock and then sell your long puts. You could technically do this in one order. If you don't close the position out, your broker will do it for you if you don't respond to their messages about it. You could also exercise the long puts to sell the stock. Though if there's lots of extrinsic value in the long puts then you don't want to exercise them. It would be better to sell the stock and then sell the puts. Sell the stock first, then sell the puts.
Why choosing a put credit spread instead of a bull call debit spread? What are the differences besides one is a credit strategy and the other one is a debit strategy?
The put you want to sell (higher strike of the spread) is sell to open. The lower-strike put of the spread is buy to open. To close the spread the orders are reversed
You can do weeklies too, just a different/faster game and need to trade strikes closer to the stock price. Easier to get blown through and see max loss on the position, but also easier to see max profits too.
Good video. To improve it for people just starting out, you should show ALL possible outcomes e.g. for the put credit spread, what happens when the price is above both strikes, below both strikes, and between the strikes (which I believe is the scenario which confuses most new traders, and is sometimes broker-dependent?)
✅ [Free PDFs] Selling Puts for Monthly Income + Put Credit Spreads + Options Trading for Beginners PDF (170+ Pages): geni.us/options-trading-pdf
What did you think about this video? Leave comments/thoughts below.
-Chris
This video was fabulous--easy to understand and thorough! Chris always has great content!
Thank you Jeremy! I appreciate it! Many more videos to come! Let me know if you have any feedback/sections that didn't make sense to you.
Hey Chris,
I like the risk to reward calculation. Thanks for putting that in there! Might have to implement that in my trading.
Thanks for the note Evan! Yeah the RR calculation is interesting and not flattering when you widen the strikes. But a super wide put spread is still better than a short naked put in my opinion.
I would like to see a risk graph for the small accounts scenario, the one with just $1 dollar wide spread, also how do you create does risk graphs (not the app just the data). Really like your content keep up the good work.
Thank you! That was a great, clear explanation of the trades. Best explanation I’m found.
Chris,
Another outstanding video. Your explanation and graphics are so well done!
How do you determine profit if the stock price is between the strikes at expiration?
Thanks! You would use the following calculation:
Short Put Strike - Stock Price
With a maximum being the strike width and the minimum being zero (no negative numbers). Because a vertical spread like this can only be worth zero or the width of the strikes, or anything in-between (if the stock is in-between the strikes).
So if you sold a 200/185 put spread and the stock is at $192, the put spread is worth: $200 - $192 = $8.
If the stock is $198, the put spread is worth: $200 - $198 = $2
It's basically the intrinsic value of the short put.
But what if you are silly and you let it expire between the strike prices? Obviously you could have gotten out of the trade before the end of day...but what if you lost your internet connection at 345 on Friday?
@@projectfinance
Nvm, you answered it below and it was as I suspected.
Thanks!
Very informative!! I needed to hear about the different wordings for the spreads and alll about put credit spreads to gain more profit in my portfolio on Robinhood.
Great video, super clear. I only wish you went over finding the right time to roll your put credit spread. Can't seem to any much videos that go over it.
Chris. Great video and very clearly presented. What happens if you place a 5 point spread for example buy $100 sell $95 and the stock price drops to $97 on the last day. I’m forced to buy at $100 but the sell never triggers?
Your spread would be worth $3.00 if it was on the last day since the 100 put would be worth $3 and the 97 put would be worth pennies or zero if it was right at expiration. In that scenario, you would buy 100 shares of stock at $100 if assigned on the short put. Or, you could buy back the spread for $3.00 to close the trade.
In reality, if that happened on the day of expiration, you would not get assigned and you'd be able to close the spread before the close because the short 97 put would still have decent amounts of extrinsic value in the first few hours of the day.
Just to clarify this question, to be a Bull Put Spread wouldn't it be: Sell the 100 Strike and Buy the 95 Strike, otherwise it's a Debit Spread when selling the lower strike and buying the higher strike?
very good presentation, easy to understand
Very informative video. Selecting strike prices is something I struggle with so I learned a lot from your risk/reward comparison of widening the spread vs trading more contracts with the narrower spread to scale up the trade.
I'm glad that was helpful!
Best video I've seen on put credit spreads. To the point with great examples. I also appreciate how you explained managing the spread, i.e., what happens at expiration and how you might close the spread before expiration. Well done.
Credit spreads are an awesome tool. love this strategy 👍
Agreed. Thanks for the comment!
very good presentation,, easy to understand
Thank you!
Always great videos, thank you.
Thanks for the comment! More videos to come!
The RR is useful but doesn't take into consideration the probability of profit. If you widen the strikes you also lowers the breakeven prices and increase probability of profit. So buying multiple narrow credit spread will take more of a move in the underlying to be profitable compared to a wider credit spread. Most the time you shouldn't hold credit spread into expiration anyways so widening the spread maybe better in general. 18:48
Yes you are 100% correct. In the examples the B/E doesn’t change dramatically but still increases POP for sure. Great insight!
thanks for amazing presentation
Great video Chris first video I have watched I liked the fact that risk is limited w put spread but buying puts you are losing time value
Thanx chris..love u buddy
Great video!! Thanks a lot❤
Nice
What happends when price is between the put and the call at experation?
How does one get approved to trade credit spreads? The brokers won't say what I need to do to get approval. Just that the credit spreads are "3rd level" . No answer to my request for specific steps to take to get approval. Very frustrating. I have a funded account that is just sitting unused.
Your presentation is very good. Thank you.
you’ll need to apply for approval and answer a questionnaire and claim that you have expert level knowledge and experience with options/derivatives. It also helps to claim that you have high net worth and liquidity. Many brokers are strict about spreads and option privileges. I use tastytrade which gives full options approval with margin accounts and doesn’t use the tiered system.
@@projectfinance TYVM !
How do I manage the loss?
Is now a bad time to make these types of trades with the market being so volatile?
Put credit spread seems better than buying a call option on its own in my opinion.
Yes and concurrently Call credit spread is better than buying puts.. however you need far more money before you can do spreads
can anyone answer this...what is the biggest risk to this strategy? As a new trader this seems like an easy way to make some guaranteed money?
The stock price collapses and you lose way more than you can make. It seems like the stock “won’t drop that far” but it will happen eventually if you trade the strategy enough
I sold a put credit spread and the value is showing more then what I sold it for. For ex. I sold 25 contracts for .10. It is now showing a value of $300. Is it possible to make more than what I sold it for?
Can you give exact trade details? If you sold 25 spreads for $0.10, that means each spread collected $10, or $250 total. If the total value of the spreads is now $300, that means you have a $50 loss on your position currently.
@@projectfinance I took a screenshot but I don’t know how to post a pic here.
@@sonogirl12345 you could upload to Imgur and post the Imgur link here
@@projectfinance I downloaded the app but haven’t figured out how to upload a pic there.
@@sonogirl12345 I would just do it on a computer here: imgur.com/upload
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Please DO NOT display full screen shot of your face during your presentation. keep your picture in a very small frame in any quadrant. Let the subject you are discussing occupy the entire duration while you are talking. It is very annoying when you cut your presentation constantly with your full face. Was how Tony does it in his Option play presentation
Dont teach them...they dont deserve it
too late besides other articles show how put credit spreads work.
Thank you for this. QQ: Which sites do you use to track and generate Put Credit Spread Risk Graph?
Thanks Chris. The best video in you tube explaining PUT Spread.
Wow, thank you! I appreciate that! I hope it was super helpful for you
I really do like the way you explain things simple and to the point...In the Spread you reference at the 14 min mark (Short 190, Long 185)...what happens if the stock ends at 187 at expiration? Does that mean only short put 190 would be exercised, since it didn't shoot down to the 185? And you'd have to buy 100 shares at 190?
Yes exactly, if only one option is ITM at expiration, only that option gets exercised/assigned (depends on if you're long or short that option) and the other goes out worthless.
So yes, if you short a 190/185 put spread and the stock is 187 at expiration, the 190 short put gets assigned and you buy 100 shares at $190/share. The 185 put goes out worthless. Seeing that buying 100 shares for $190/share is a $19,000 position, you would need to close your spread before expiration if you could not carry this share position (i.e. you don't have $19K to buy the shares). If you only have $10K in your account, you could still get assigned on the short 190 put and then you'd be long stock on margin (you own $19K worth of stock in a $10K account). You'd need to be careful here and probably want to close the shares.
I always recommend closing spreads before expiration/on the day of expiration, especially if they are partially ITM or one option is close to being ITM.
Great Video !!
Hi can i ask, i had a sell put itm and buy otm, what is most likely to happen if the underlying price is in betwwen on expiration? Thanks.
The short put will be assigned (you'll buy 100 shares per short put contract) and the long put expires worthless. The result is you'll end up with stock. If the stock position is too large for your account you'll need to close it or your brokerage will close it for you.
@@projectfinance so is it better to wait till expiration day to close or as long there's a profit to close? Thank you
Outstanding, Bravo! I also have a quick question, does trading wider spreads make the spread decay faster like naked/cash secured puts?
When you buy back the credit spread, is it better to buy it back at a lower price than market rate?.....This can be confusing. Just want to confirm before I do something that puts more money into my account
Hello, when you talk about maximum loss potential on a credit spread like in the video can you elaborate what this means if the share price goes against you quickly and is ITM. Are you up for just the maximum loss money wise or do you also get assigned the shares? Thanks 🙏
With this strategy, you close your position before that happens.
If your put credit spread go against you by a huge amount; should you just let it go to expiration? Or should you close it because the losses will be limited? 🤔
Thank you Chris!
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You're welcome thanks for watching!
Excellent video, thank you
i would just add that doing a woder spread lowers your break even point and i believe also increases the probability of success
What if the stock price at expiration is in between the puts - below the short put, but above the long put? You'd be assigned the shares I assume, which could be very expensive. What do you think is the best way to avoid that?
Exactly, you'd be assigned on the short put (buy 100 shares per short put) and the long put goes out worthless. The best way to avoid this is to always close options before expiration to avoid assignment/exercise, especially if one of the options in a spread is ITM or near being ITM.
And by before expiration I just mean before the closing bell on expiration day.
Good course.
Is this only for margins ?
Yes you need a margin account for options strategies that include a short option.
normally when you setup PCS, does the buy & sell of puts below the share price?
Yes, that is the normal way to do it! That way, the position makes the full profit even if the stock price doesn't move, and can even decrease a bit as long as it's above your short strike at expiration. However, the further away from the stock price you go, the less money you'll be able to make and the more risk you'll have since it's a higher probability trade.
Excellent video!!!
Thank you very much!
This is so good...
Thanks for that! I’m glad you think so
Could I do this if I had a super widespread. Let’s say I got assigned on the short side and I don’t want to exercise the long to cover. Now I am owning 100 shares that I don’t have the funds to cover, could I just sell the 100 shares and lose out on the difference while keeping the long open?
I am also thinking about this more towards a LEAPS situation, but the same scenario applies if that’s even possible to do? Thank you!
Yes exactly. If you get assigned on the short and still have the long you can just close the shares and hold the long put.
In this case means the long expiration date has to be later/further than the short expiration date?
@@projectfinance thanks so much!
Learned a lot from your videos and always recommend your channel when people ask about options on discord.
@@fongheenkitaloka2800 in the LEAPS example, yes. I have a deep ITM call with a DTE out over a year. The short calls I do are typically weekly.
@@fongheenkitaloka2800 No, for instance if you got assigned on the short put and the options had 10 days left until expiration then you could continue holding the long put for the remaining 10 days.
Hey Chris, I have a question. What should I do if the short put gets assigned on a Friday? I'm in a bull put spread on the spy and got assigned 1000 shares on the spy over the weekend. I don't even know how I got assigned if I don't have that margin amount. I still have the 10 puts in the money
You don't need the money to buy the stock since it happens forcefully. What happens is your account is put in a huge negative margin situation, but as long as you still have the long put you aren't at risk of massive losses. Your risk profile is the same as the original put spread position after assignment, except it's actually more profitable on the upside.
To close out the position you'll need to sell the stock and then sell your long puts. You could technically do this in one order. If you don't close the position out, your broker will do it for you if you don't respond to their messages about it.
You could also exercise the long puts to sell the stock. Though if there's lots of extrinsic value in the long puts then you don't want to exercise them. It would be better to sell the stock and then sell the puts. Sell the stock first, then sell the puts.
I’ll do that 👍🏻 Thank you Chris
Your tutorials are great. Helpful and easy to understand. Thank you.
Why choosing a put credit spread instead of a bull call debit spread? What are the differences besides one is a credit strategy and the other one is a debit strategy?
When opening a Put spread, should the selection be ‘Sell Open’ and ‘Buy Open’?
The put you want to sell (higher strike of the spread) is sell to open. The lower-strike put of the spread is buy to open.
To close the spread the orders are reversed
@@projectfinance thanks!
Thank You.
You're welcome
Nice video. How can manage / roll this option? Is it possible to limit loses or increase profit after some time after position gets opened?
Very informative
excellent video!
Thank you very much, your content is amazing, very well explained !
Thanks so much!
The value in this video is off the charts, thanks!
Glad you think so! Thanks so much
why not trade weekly options ?
You can do weeklies too, just a different/faster game and need to trade strikes closer to the stock price. Easier to get blown through and see max loss on the position, but also easier to see max profits too.
Good video. To improve it for people just starting out, you should show ALL possible outcomes e.g. for the put credit spread, what happens when the price is above both strikes, below both strikes, and between the strikes (which I believe is the scenario which confuses most new traders, and is sometimes broker-dependent?)
Thank you for the feedback and that's definitely a great suggestion. I think I did that in my older version but didn't in this one for some reason!
Yeah, what happens when the trade closes between the two put strike prices? I’d like to know.
This is great. Can you use lamens terms as the terms they use are insane.
talking waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too fast, not good
How is he possibly taking too fast lol
Set 0.25x it’s not an issue with YT 😊
You’re thinking waaaaaaayyyyyyy to slow!!