keep the thoughts you want. act upon the thoughts you want to act upon, and let the rest be the insane part in your head you dont listen to. After all the years that I have had intrusive thoughts I have learned to find humor in them. or you could just ignore them. either way the thoughts are whatever you make it. :) youre such a good person and everyone knows you mean well...but we all get these thoughts no matter how good we are inside. so go with the flow and do what everyone else does, ignore the thoughts
Hello, Kat! I originally watched a bit of your "Christians with Scrupulosity" video, and I realized we have a similar background. I was raised Roman Catholic and I, too, started researching about Catholicism. I believed in praying to Saints/Mary who could pray for us, purgatory, rosary, praying for the dead, etc. It was clear to me in the Bible that these were false teachings and I wept. They were hard to accept-hard to digest. It would mean that I believed in lies. Later on, I kept watching every video that was Christian. Testimonies from Heaven and Hell, rapture warnings, street preaching, and more. These made me very fearful, and I realize later on that it was because I didn't know the Gospel although I believed in God and Jesus. I became depressed and suicidal for months because I knew my sins stacked up to the Heavens. I believed I was going to Hell. Yet I continued watching street healings on TH-cam (people praying for people with injuries and they're gone), and the only hope I had was that God was real and if I killed myself I would be going to Hell. I didn't understand the Gospel message. Every time I did something, I thought, "What's the point? I'm going to Hell." but I tried thinking positively despite my deep sighs. When I was looking for clubs/organizations to join in my university, a girl started talking to my friend and I about her Bethel fellowship club. I said to my friend, who came from a Buddhist background, "I'll go if you go!" I didn't expect anything much. Well, my friend accepted Christ in the meeting, and I thought to myself, "Is it that simple? Can I have that too?" And the president of the club said that she heard in her heart that there are people in this room that would like to accept Jesus, and I raised my hand, albeit hesitantly. I knew the cost of following Jesus. I didn't know how I would be able to preach the Gospel to people, but I didn't care. I knew Jesus would be with me. I wanted to change. Two weeks after accepting Christ, I started struggling with myself. "Am I saved? If I'm a Christian, why am I getting these horrific, blasphemous thoughts? Why do I keep thinking about these things? What if I faked being a Christian all along and I'm only deceiving myself? What if I'm pretending; after all, Jesus said that not everyone who calls him Lord, Lord is one of His followers." I cried again, and I called someone on the phone and they led me to a Salvation prayer (although in the Bethel fellowship they led me into prayer, too). Still, doubt arose after being relaxed for a while and I opened the Bible and paced back and forth. Then a friend in Christ said to me a week ago that when we believed in Christ, we are stamped with the Holy Spirit. This Holy Spirit guarantees our inheritance of eternal life. I was calmed down for a while, and only a few days ago I truly realized that God won't let me die without Jesus Christ. God won't let me die in unbelief. Everyday, He wakes me up faithfully, and I know that when He wakes me up that there is something He wants me to do. You too, Kat. He wakes you up everyday even if we believe that we're unfaithful to Him. I want to go to Heaven...to depart from this Earth and all my sorrows, worries, anxieties, but I trust that I am covered by His grace. Grace means that we can relax (of course, we can willingly partake in sin! We're children of God!) It seems like I have bad thoughts everyday, and I am talking ugly and disgusting thoughts. An image would pop up and I would have to rebuke it in the name of Jesus. A thought would pop out and I would rebuke it in the name of Jesus. Sometimes, I get so tired that I want to give up (to not be a Christian anymore), but I remove those thoughts in Jesus' name when I think about the reward that God has promised us if we persevere and endure. I understand you, Kat. God understands you. Jesus, God dwelling in human form, lived through all your anxieties, worries, fears so you can be free from the chains that bind you down. Jesus won't condemn you. He only asks you to give all your burdens to Him so we can finish this race of faith. My contact is yvonnecarandang@gmail.com! I'd love to hear about your walk with Christ. I recently gave my life to Christ in September :) Father, I thank you for my sister Kat. Before the foundations of the Earth, you knew her. Before I even pray, you already answering me, and when I do, you are listening. Thank you for being with us even when we can't realize the small details of Your presence. Hear our cries, Lord! Deliver us! Bless her and have her heart open to the Truth. In Jesus' name. Amen.
Our journey as a christian with intrusive thoughts can be really difficult, but one thing we should all remember is that we are not deliberately letting this happen. Our hearts are against these thoughts and God knows a struggling heart the best. Thank you for this. Jesus bless you 💕
@ yvonne most of what you wrote reminds me of myself. Two summers ago I had an OCD episode, fearing that I would lose God for all eternity. This episode has led me to depression. I wonder how you’re doing?
I've felt the 'bad person' / and or 'not good enough' narrative a lot. It's a tough journey, because I still have a hard time distinguishing what actually is compulsive, and that winds up being a fight for certatinty if I don't detach and let go. You do really have to stand your ground sometimes, and if you're afraid of something, just acting on what you think / and or feel you want will allow yourself to discover the reality. Obsession and compulsions can work their way into pretty much anything, so remember even healthy activities like walking and eating wholesomely can turn into a nightmare of self-defeat and hatred, if you don't just give yourself permission to just be and take it all step by step at your own pace and your own way. Also, deliberately diffusing thoughts by saying them deliberately goes only so far and can cause more damage in the long run, because it provokes the rest of the brain to keep sending those messages over and over--I'd call this part escalation of exposure--basically just confronting fear / and or doing what makes you anxious for the sake of it, even if it had no interest to you, and has harsh backlash because of repressed desires. Peace.
Hey, your videos helped me so much with my OCD back in 2016, i've stopped listening to the thoughts since then. I'm sure you'll figure this out, keep strong!
I don't think I have intrusive thoughts, I just have bad thoughts all the time. All the time. They're not fleeting or anything. Which somehow scares me even more. Because if it isn't an intrusive thought, which is scary enough, then it's my personality. It's actually my thoughts.
You are not a bad person simply because you care wether you are or not. I just learned about intrusive thoughts from you. I can relate to you so much I deal with religious, sexual, and violent intrusive thoughts. I am also autistic so detecting my own thoughts and feelings is difficult. Don't doubt yourself. We have faith and religious principals which keep us in line. I hope you feel better.
You've got OCD & Intrusive thoughts & they are strong in your head that is why you still have them. I know the pain you are currently going through, my HOCD is the exact same way & it is horrible. Believe me when I say you are not fighting these things alone, there are many of us struggling through the same battles & I am always here if you need someone to speak too.
I've suffered from POCD and it was fucking hell. Now I've nearly recovered from it. I felt so much anxiety that I almost felt like I wanted to commit suicide.
Thank you so much for the advice. The thing is that I am trying to recover from OCD entirely since other obsessions can take its place. I am watching Mark Freemans videos and am constantly trying to observe thoughts in a non judgemental state :)
Ocd sucks. Mark Freeman has helped me sooo much. You should check out his new book if you haven't. Keep pushing forward girl. You aren't alone, I've been dealing with the same thing for the last few years. Re-assurance is the worst and tricky. But I find that if I'm one Hundred percent honest with myself.... Deep down..I know good and well when I'm trying to get re assurance.
Hello does anybody have the fear of your thoughts and believing you did something bad or acted it out because the thought was there. Although you know you didn't act on it but your mind says otherwise
Hey Kat, long time no see, good to see you. I'm gonna tell you what I think... I think that thoughts aren't always just thoughts, for example, the non-intrusive, intentional, willful thought of adultery with someone is sinful, but the intrusive thought of adultery is not, because you can't commit a sin if someone forces you to do it, in this case, OCD is forcing you to think about a certain thought. So I try to keep the boundaries well defined, to the point that, if it's OCD, I manage to spot in on sight, it's like: "Ok OCD, that won't work, I know it's you" (most of the times, I'm able to forbid it to control my thoughts). Anyways, I wish you strength in Christ, Kat. Our fight is internal but He lives inside us, amen?
Am i the only one who obssesives whit goods tougths like i like skyscrapers alot and i love looking at the but because i have ocd when i think of a surden skyscraper i cant get the picture rigth in my head and i just have to get it rigth and it literly takes me minutes sometimes hours and i cant stop thinking about it till i get it rigth and it overwhelmes me and hives me anxiety i hate that even my good tougtgs are anoying too
My brain's always like "what if this isn't an intrusive thought" and it drives me insane. Best wishes to you
Yes
Man I can relate.
me tooooooo
keep the thoughts you want. act upon the thoughts you want to act upon, and let the rest be the insane part in your head you dont listen to. After all the years that I have had intrusive thoughts I have learned to find humor in them. or you could just ignore them. either way the thoughts are whatever you make it. :) youre such a good person and everyone knows you mean well...but we all get these thoughts no matter how good we are inside. so go with the flow and do what everyone else does, ignore the thoughts
Hello, Kat!
I originally watched a bit of your "Christians with Scrupulosity" video, and I realized we have a similar background.
I was raised Roman Catholic and I, too, started researching about Catholicism. I believed in praying to Saints/Mary who could pray for us, purgatory, rosary, praying for the dead, etc. It was clear to me in the Bible that these were false teachings and I wept. They were hard to accept-hard to digest. It would mean that I believed in lies.
Later on, I kept watching every video that was Christian. Testimonies from Heaven and Hell, rapture warnings, street preaching, and more. These made me very fearful, and I realize later on that it was because I didn't know the Gospel although I believed in God and Jesus.
I became depressed and suicidal for months because I knew my sins stacked up to the Heavens. I believed I was going to Hell. Yet I continued watching street healings on TH-cam (people praying for people with injuries and they're gone), and the only hope I had was that God was real and if I killed myself I would be going to Hell.
I didn't understand the Gospel message. Every time I did something, I thought, "What's the point? I'm going to Hell." but I tried thinking positively despite my deep sighs.
When I was looking for clubs/organizations to join in my university, a girl started talking to my friend and I about her Bethel fellowship club. I said to my friend, who came from a Buddhist background, "I'll go if you go!" I didn't expect anything much.
Well, my friend accepted Christ in the meeting, and I thought to myself, "Is it that simple? Can I have that too?" And the president of the club said that she heard in her heart that there are people in this room that would like to accept Jesus, and I raised my hand, albeit hesitantly.
I knew the cost of following Jesus. I didn't know how I would be able to preach the Gospel to people, but I didn't care. I knew Jesus would be with me. I wanted to change.
Two weeks after accepting Christ, I started struggling with myself.
"Am I saved? If I'm a Christian, why am I getting these horrific, blasphemous thoughts? Why do I keep thinking about these things? What if I faked being a Christian all along and I'm only deceiving myself? What if I'm pretending; after all, Jesus said that not everyone who calls him Lord, Lord is one of His followers."
I cried again, and I called someone on the phone and they led me to a Salvation prayer (although in the Bethel fellowship they led me into prayer, too). Still, doubt arose after being relaxed for a while and I opened the Bible and paced back and forth.
Then a friend in Christ said to me a week ago that when we believed in Christ, we are stamped with the Holy Spirit. This Holy Spirit guarantees our inheritance of eternal life. I was calmed down for a while, and only a few days ago I truly realized that God won't let me die without Jesus Christ. God won't let me die in unbelief. Everyday, He wakes me up faithfully, and I know that when He wakes me up that there is something He wants me to do. You too, Kat. He wakes you up everyday even if we believe that we're unfaithful to Him. I want to go to Heaven...to depart from this Earth and all my sorrows, worries, anxieties, but I trust that I am covered by His grace. Grace means that we can relax (of course, we can willingly partake in sin! We're children of God!)
It seems like I have bad thoughts everyday, and I am talking ugly and disgusting thoughts. An image would pop up and I would have to rebuke it in the name of Jesus. A thought would pop out and I would rebuke it in the name of Jesus. Sometimes, I get so tired that I want to give up (to not be a Christian anymore), but I remove those thoughts in Jesus' name when I think about the reward that God has promised us if we persevere and endure.
I understand you, Kat. God understands you. Jesus, God dwelling in human form, lived through all your anxieties, worries, fears so you can be free from the chains that bind you down.
Jesus won't condemn you. He only asks you to give all your burdens to Him so we can finish this race of faith.
My contact is yvonnecarandang@gmail.com! I'd love to hear about your walk with Christ. I recently gave my life to Christ in September :)
Father, I thank you for my sister Kat. Before the foundations of the Earth, you knew her. Before I even pray, you already answering me, and when I do, you are listening. Thank you for being with us even when we can't realize the small details of Your presence. Hear our cries, Lord! Deliver us! Bless her and have her heart open to the Truth. In Jesus' name. Amen.
Our journey as a christian with intrusive thoughts can be really difficult, but one thing we should all remember is that we are not deliberately letting this happen. Our hearts are against these thoughts and God knows a struggling heart the best. Thank you for this. Jesus bless you 💕
@ yvonne most of what you wrote reminds me of myself. Two summers ago I had an OCD episode, fearing that I would lose God for all eternity. This episode has led me to depression. I wonder how you’re doing?
I've felt the 'bad person' / and or 'not good enough' narrative a lot. It's a tough journey, because I still have a hard time distinguishing what actually is compulsive, and that winds up being a fight for certatinty if I don't detach and let go.
You do really have to stand your ground sometimes, and if you're afraid of something, just acting on what you think / and or feel you want will allow yourself to discover the reality.
Obsession and compulsions can work their way into pretty much anything, so remember even healthy activities like walking and eating wholesomely can turn into a nightmare of self-defeat and hatred, if you don't just give yourself permission to just be and take it all step by step at your own pace and your own way.
Also, deliberately diffusing thoughts by saying them deliberately goes only so far and can cause more damage in the long run, because it provokes the rest of the brain to keep sending those messages over and over--I'd call this part escalation of exposure--basically just confronting fear / and or doing what makes you anxious for the sake of it, even if it had no interest to you, and has harsh backlash because of repressed desires.
Peace.
Hey, your videos helped me so much with my OCD back in 2016, i've stopped listening to the thoughts since then. I'm sure you'll figure this out, keep strong!
I don't think I have intrusive thoughts, I just have bad thoughts all the time. All the time. They're not fleeting or anything. Which somehow scares me even more. Because if it isn't an intrusive thought, which is scary enough, then it's my personality. It's actually my thoughts.
You are not a bad person simply because you care wether you are or not. I just learned about intrusive thoughts from you. I can relate to you so much I deal with religious, sexual, and violent intrusive thoughts. I am also autistic so detecting my own thoughts and feelings is difficult. Don't doubt yourself. We have faith and religious principals which keep us in line. I hope you feel better.
You've got OCD & Intrusive thoughts & they are strong in your head that is why you still have them. I know the pain you are currently going through, my HOCD is the exact same way & it is horrible. Believe me when I say you are not fighting these things alone, there are many of us struggling through the same battles & I am always here if you need someone to speak too.
I've suffered from POCD and it was fucking hell. Now I've nearly recovered from it. I felt so much anxiety that I almost felt like I wanted to commit suicide.
harun razak
I am currrently struggling with POCD. Do you have any tips on how you recover?
Thank you so much for the advice. The thing is that I am trying to recover from OCD entirely since other obsessions can take its place. I am watching Mark Freemans videos and am constantly trying to observe thoughts in a non judgemental state :)
Andreas Skoglund Hello, how are you doing ^^
Is my advice working
:-)
harun razak Yeah :)
I am slowly building my skills to accept thoughts and are currently reading a book about ACT.
I greatly appreciate your advice.
I really needed this! OCD is so difficult to defeat!
Ocd sucks. Mark Freeman has helped me sooo much. You should check out his new book if you haven't. Keep pushing forward girl. You aren't alone, I've been dealing with the same thing for the last few years. Re-assurance is the worst and tricky. But I find that if I'm one Hundred percent honest with myself.... Deep down..I know good and well when I'm trying to get re assurance.
Yay!! Missed your vids!
Hello does anybody have the fear of your thoughts and believing you did something bad or acted it out because the thought was there. Although you know you didn't act on it but your mind says otherwise
I have ocd, just learned last year.
I just go with it, "my ocd wants me this" and then I don't have to do it anymore,
Hey Kat, long time no see, good to see you.
I'm gonna tell you what I think... I think that thoughts aren't always just thoughts, for example, the non-intrusive, intentional, willful thought of adultery with someone is sinful, but the intrusive thought of adultery is not, because you can't commit a sin if someone forces you to do it, in this case, OCD is forcing you to think about a certain thought. So I try to keep the boundaries well defined, to the point that, if it's OCD, I manage to spot in on sight, it's like: "Ok OCD, that won't work, I know it's you" (most of the times, I'm able to forbid it to control my thoughts). Anyways, I wish you strength in Christ, Kat. Our fight is internal but He lives inside us, amen?
Am i the only one who obssesives whit goods tougths like i like skyscrapers alot and i love looking at the but because i have ocd when i think of a surden skyscraper i cant get the picture rigth in my head and i just have to get it rigth and it literly takes me minutes sometimes hours and i cant stop thinking about it till i get it rigth and it overwhelmes me and hives me anxiety i hate that even my good tougtgs are anoying too
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