can a NORMAL PLAYER learn to use the wingman like iitzTimmy and Aceu (Apex Legends)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- ►Can a pleb learn how players like Aceu, Timmy, and Hal get so consistent with the wingman in Apex Legends? I dive deep with Soar_Hollow on how to get more consistent with the wingman.
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BIG thank you to Hollow for showing me the wingman ways!!
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I really enjoyed this video, thanks Kandy and Hollow
Thanx to u both will add tips
This was such a great video, I really enjoyed and felt like I learned something new
Hollow is a legend in his own right!
Well considering you aren't a normal player by any means maybe I'll give it a shot lol
Hollow is one of those dudes who have that “martial arts” mindset. Focus intent in training, spar, always seeking improvement, and when attaining high level skill, teach your craft in the most conslcise way.
solid comment
focused practice will make you improve so fast its crazy
Facts
kandyrew is gonna be a wingman warlord in no time, hope you guys enjoyed :D
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@@Jonny_Rhombus true dat dog but let me take it one step further chad. the gospel says Isaiah 41:10 (NIV) "So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand." so should we take gods advice and give into these left handed demons, no...
This felt like one of my college teachers teaching a class. I hope you know that you are a really good teacher and you are really easy to understand.
@@Jonny_Rhombus bro i was joking so was the first guy
Heeeell yeah Hollow deserves all the love he can get. Really excited for this video 🤗
Frankly his comments in this video make feel better about myself for already being aware of 90% of what he’s talking about 🤣
Who needs gaming “tutors” lol
Edit:
Back when I was 16, playing CS, I used to color the sticky part of a post-it note black, would cut it out into a circle and then stick it on my crosshair. Definitely helped me naturalize the middle of my screen quicker…
Top notch stuff.
A WILD MOKEY APPEARS!
@@sfurules Truly a rare find
@@DellSnooze we have crosshair overlay programs now lol
hollow seems like a genuinely nice dude and a good teacher, quality content kandy even If I don't play apex as much I used to keep it up!
Hey why don’t you play no more 🤡is it Bc people don’t use guns no more n only use wingman the hole time n 3 shots people yea I still haven’t won a match this hole season Bc there some one with a wingman n wins the hole game 🤡🤡
2:10 Thinking of tracking with the wingman instead of flicking was the biggest jump for me. When I started to think about tracking my target always, I hit way more shots with the wingman. And it's something I have to remind myself of. When I start missing a lot I have to remind myself to get into a tracking mindset. Really good tip
honestly i only flick with it when the enemy is really close to me cuz my sens is low or when i'm changing targets (i also do when i have no sights so i can actually see the target), but tracking is definitely the way to go
@@Ottoni174 If the target is close, Just hipfire, The wingman has pretty accurate hipfire and is deadly paired with tapstrafing, basically like having a pocket sniper that you don't lose mobility with lol
The secret to good aim is using the weapon so much that you can predict where the bullet is going. This game is projectile based so even perfect tracking can miss. We see this all the time when shooting people out of the air or going up balloons.
Who are you?
@@francisvortex5785 your the biggest hater. People can see what you comment you know
@@francisvortex5785 Obviously he is Yusuke Urameshi, Spirit Detective.
This man doesn't need a weapon to shoot
Is your spirit gun hit marker or does it have bullet drop?
This makes SO MUCH sense. I went into the firing range to practice where I put my focus and the shots wouldn't stop hitting. I've been at it for 3 hours now and the ends of my mouth have started twitching upwards. I'm concerned and will contact my doctor immediately.
what 😭
@@blaze_flame953 Yes
@@sufferrng1717 no foaming from the mouth or rabid like behavior? You might be one of the few lucky survivors left😪
I’m Surprised the gun ain’t in the care package lol , I’ve been gone from apex for 5 months and my 1st game on I was 3 shoting people in seconds
@@sandboxman9174 Hi Surprised, I'm sufferRNG
Hollow the goat 💛 nice vid Kandymon
we all love you so much and appreciate what you do for us
In all honesty Hollow saying look at the target and not the reticle has been game changing for me. Literally hopped in a game afterwards and noticed an immediate difference, that was awesome, great vid shoutout to both
"It does not matter it you fire only once. Show me control." - Kratos
great stuff! was fun to listen
i feel very bad that you’re still a normal player after all these videos. you’ll get better soon bud!
you guys know this is a joke… right?
he isnt that bad:))) he is showing us the way so that he is more relatable
L comment
mad condescending, what a weirdo
People are really this dense huh
@@aperson6562 😂 yeah what’s with these people
God tier advice 🙌 you could see Kandy's aim getting better in the short period of time. Will definitely be using these tips myself 👌🏼
Focusing on the target over the crosshair is probably the single best tip anyone can give for aiming. Hollow is the goat.
This is honestly such a good video, actually helpful and not clickbait at all. Hollow GOATED asf
It’s funny how much the aiming and speed parts mirror actual pistol marksmanship
Another point I wanna make is that when shooting, take a moment to analyze your opponent's pattern, It helps so much with predicting obvious patterns by getting 1-2 shots in. Trust me, once you shoot, every enemy in this game have their own footwork. The more you do that, the faster you predict their pattern and eventually you can see patterns as if you have clairvoyance. Just my 2 cents
The piano noise at 2:18 tripped me out. I am home alone with no piano in the house, but for some reason it sounds like it wasnt coming from my pc 🤣
I’m so glad I found kandy I can really learn from him and with him. He’s not so like flashy so I can actually understand wat I’m watching. Thx kandy
this has got to be my favorite Kandy video ever, love these dudes :)
tbh this video really inspiring. i just got to diamond lobby as a solo player and this actually might help me get to master. it really change my prospective on how to aim. i experience alot of time where i just miss all of my shot because im too focus on my crosshair instead of the enemy
Hollow was surprisingly helpful, nice, and understanding. Great vid
Narrative of Self is the result of a feedback loop between “Separate Self” & Cosmos - 🎈
I enjoy these videos. Kinda like the other one you did a while back when you were being coached. Great stuff.. very helpful.
For me I have struggled in apex a bit as someone who became very competent on m&k in hit scan games like csgo and valorant. This is due to the fact that in a hitscan game with smaller maps and much different ttk (especially because these games are all about that one headshot that instantly ends your opponent) you learn the fundamentals such as centering, cross hair placement, micro adjustments, flicks, strafe aiming, I'm a way that doesn't fully apply to a game like apex. In apex you have to account for velocity and distance, different hit boxes, and a ttk that relies more on sustain, consistent damage over a much longer period of time. I think players like me struggle to marry what we have learned in other games to apex in some of these areas. I wingman spam sometimes because I feel like I need to pump dps to compensate for the fact that the game doesn't have that one or two shot potential in the same way the aforementioned titles do. And yes I know the wingman along with weapons like the mastiff and pk are burst weapons but as was shown in this video spam rarely has a happy ending. Couple this with the fact that targets move way faster and way differently in apex its a bit of an adjustment for a cs/Val player. It's a tracking game whereas the other two are flicking games by nature. If there is any piece I'd advice someone who reads this takes away it is to practice tracking alot in aim labs or something of the sort, and most importantly SLOW DOWN THE SHOTS. I noticed I needed to do this early on and applying this principle rapidly improved my pk and wingman game. You really gotta train your brain to only squeeze of that shot once it recognizes its on target.
Wow, I feel like I learned so much through this video as well. :D Thanks for this little educational video and letting people take part in your process of learning and improving at the game.
Thanks Kandy and Hollow. I always appreciate this helpful content.
Omg viewing the wingman as a tracking weapon instead of a flicking weapon and i saw an instant improvment! Slowing down my shots helps a ton also.. thank you
just realized hollow was using an arc star as a countdown for a duel, wow! this is smart!!!!
It honestly takes some time to learn how much you need to lead with the wingman. Based off others ping and internet it can be different for some. I know I've been practicing more and more on controller snapping and leading still wingman in a league of its own.
I like how hollow explains things
I like how he explains the wingman. I always just told people to point the wingman at someone and don't think about about you crosshairs
i love this guys energy and gaming philosophy, very insightful
Awesome video. Im on controller trying to get better at the wingman and found this super interesting. I'd love to see more vids like this.
WOW. I learned a SHIT ton. Even as a controller player (which im currently working on my wingman aim) almost ALL of these tips are so so so helpful. Im excited to pick up the weapon in my games and practice more :)
W student, W teacher, W video
Dot on tape on center of monitor or built in monitor crosshair or crosshair overlay, having a static crosshair is amazing. Just having an idea of where the center of your screen is can be good enough for bodyshots but not for consistent headshots
I started playing apex again two weeks ago and totally fell in love with the wingman
Im spamming this gun as much as possible so i get good with it
I just came back after two years and always wanted to learn the wingman, so I threw myself into arenas and only let myself use the wingman; and it's crazy how much of this I picked up on. I don't focus on the reticle anymore and I started tracking and now I'm much better - not amazing but better. I also learned to slow down if I miss too many shots; I just take a deep breath and focus. I got a lot of work ahead of me (such as sensitivity alone) but it feels amazing actually being competent with it. It's the movement I need to focus on now...
Very good vid. 👍 it's unbelievable, I was actually very good with the wingman when I just started playing Apex. Became bad overtime because I had a cpl of bad experiences, without realizing I was tired at that time, but it stucked in my mind I suck. IMO confidence is the key to Apex games in general. Wingman has a timing to it.
simple. do what the pros do.
go to the firing range. get the reticle on-screen. then put a small piece of tape onto your monitor over the reticle.
now you'll always have a centered reticle, no matter what gun, no matter what sights or irons or hipfires. headshots +60%.
from a wingman lover (not of timmy or ace's level but I play with it regularly with a good degree of success) the tip about it being a tracking weapon is HUGE
Ironically that first top of "you should look at your target not your reticle" is something we're taught as beginner rifleman in the military
The first tip about tracking the enemy actually improved my aim alot!! Thank you
these tips really helped me as well. I applied it to the peacekeeper, big difference. I feel much more consistent and deadly now
I love your videos like this, they actually really help me get better
lovely video with chill atmosphere
This "normal player" bit needs to end. Totally crazy that Kandy considers himself an average player. Not a fuckin' chance hahaha. If so, I'm the worst player that ever lived hahah
I was thinking the same thing....Kandy you're just a normal dude but you're not a "normal" apex player.
Great collab on this! Solid wingdude shots.
kandy, yur not a normal player at this point, yur most likely a way better player than a few years ago. ive been watchin yur apex videos ever since that gibraltar x caustic glitch, and i personally think that yut already a pro at this game!! keep doin what ya love!! :DD
have you and your loved ones been made to feel inferior by kandyrew claiming to be a normal player? if so, you may entitled to apex coin compensation
the eyeball thing works tremendously, my aim is pretty bad and i dont use the wingman, but there was this time when i was playing with my friend and i was pretty pumped i dont know why and my wingman aim was nutty, i usually have 200-400dmg games but i had like 600-800 damage almost purely wingman and i definitely improved my aim because of that tip
The only reason I hit plat this season is becoz of your vids like this hahaha my guy you learning from others helps me a lot so much ❤️
That flicking he was talking about at the beginning of the video is more of a reflex. A lot of people's tracking isnt the greatest but they feel that they can flick onto the target better. I didn't even realize I did it until one of my friends was spectating me in valorant and asking why I flicked away from the target after missing with the sheriff. I do it on console too, it's just a very weird thing that happens
This is SO helpful. A huge thank you to both of you!
Hollow is such a humble soul. ❤️
Your videos are honestly so helpful. Ty!
Woah when you really listen this information is top tier and I don’t even comment on videos
Kandy and Hollow are a whole vibe 🍃💨
就像一位武术大师，依旧在请教高人，不断提升自己的技术与修为
Regarding the first segment about the common "mistake" of flicking off the target and flicking back onto them for the next shot, I feel like the conclusions drawn by Hollow are kind of off.
I don't think that the primary motivation of doing that is to avoid the visual recoil or to "intentionally put yourself at a disadvantage to make flashy plays" as Hollow suggests. I also think that it's quite a stretch to assume that iiTzTimmy would be intentionally and consistently going out of his way to throw off his aim for no good reason, no matter how sweaty the game or situation, just to show off his flicks to the stream.
Hollow then suggests thinking of the Wingman as a tracking weapon, keeping your crosshair as close to the target as you can, so that you can easily micro-adjust towards their head for your next shot. However, an important point that Hollow did not bring up is that his mouse sensitivity of 43 cm/360 is extremely different compared to iitzTimmy's 21 cm/360.
That kind of tracking and micro-adjustment aiming definitely makes sense for a mid sensitivity like Hollow's, but if you play at a much higher sensitivity like Timmy's, it becomes much more difficult to smoothly track the target without overshooting once they move out of the range of your wrist tilts. And even if you CAN continue to track closely to the target, the micro-adjustments also become more difficult to do, as a small twitch of your hand could send your crosshair flying past their head.
Personally, I suspect that that is the actual reason behind those off/on flicks. By flicking a good distance off the target, it gives Timmy enough room to comfortably flick back onto the target without worrying as much about having extremely tight mouse control to prevent overshooting.
Anecdotally, I had a similar experience back when Overwatch first came out. At the time, I didn't know anything about adjusting mouse sensitivities and played with a sensitivity at or close to default, which was very high for my DPI. When playing Hanzo, I intuitively started flicking off of the target and then flicking back onto them with each shot, because it was the only way I could wrangle the super fast sensitivity. It wasn't until much later when I started messing with settings that I broke that habit.
Very insightful Kandy! Thank you much!!!
So true! When I got a monitor it had the red dot in the middle of the screen I noticed the difference
I thoroughly enjoyed this video, thank you!!
its actually kinda scary how much the look at the target tip helps
Also at add to the speed...I agree it's better to start slow and make your hits. Once you start getting hits consistently, you'll naturally get consistent hit FASTER over time.
-If you cant hit shit and shoot too fast just take a breath, slow down, and aim. Focus on getting hits at a slower pace.
Now I kinda want to talk to Hollow, great stuff here.
Keep up the grind your aim has a lot of potential
that Francis voice was on point
the one very important thing he said is actually this
.... you have to play when your 1 hp as if you have 100 hp,in other word you fight until you the one standing last in some situation .
13:56 made me smile
Its kinda similar how CSGO operates where every shot can be lethal. You want to aim where theyre going to be not following them with your sights.
Best pro guide without paying
from what i see, when itztimmy plays he positions his mouse in a place where he knows he can do a constant flick. usually he shoots then moves is mouse down then sets up for the exact same flick again instead of trying to flick from a bunch of different angles.
Yo these tips were huge. I always do us on my reticle, I changed that today and saw a huge difference on all guns
I WAS NOT EXPECTING HOLLOW IN THIS
i think in regards to flicking hollow isn't taking muscle memory in to consideration. I think it was Taimou an overwatch pro mcree player that went in depth on a flicking guide and how your muscles learn to whip at your target, flicking is a very repetitive fast movement which using your arm mostly and not your wrist is a very good way of creating a consistent muscle memory
9:29 that ragdoll lmao
This is actually really good! I've always used the Wingman as of late like the deagle/357 in COD MW19, which is aim in, take a shot, leave ADS and then re-ADS for the next shot, rinse repeat. But with these tips, I can see now that taking a wingman and dueling someone is more of a commitment than just dealing random burst damage. It makes sense, the wingman is actually more of an oppressive weapon imo than most others, the feeling of being focused down and getting bopped 45/86 adds more pressure than getting fried by an SMG or AR in the mid ranges.
Then again, playing other games and not focusing on Apex leads to some bad habits formed from other games like COD. So thanks Soar_Hollow for the tips and Kandy for showing us how the big boys get it done. That being said, we're probably going to be seeing a lot of wingman guys out there in the games!
17:20 why do people drop cells and run around with empty space? It doesn’t make any sense to me.
Normal player proceeds to have 20k badge and 4k damage badge
Aww I cheered so loud at home every time you won :')
Isn't the first tip the same concept as the one for fighting games? Where you should be looking at where your opponent is as opposed to looking at your character is?
I've often felt I play better on 16:9 screens rather than my main 21:9 screen and these tips kinda speak to why that might be. It's so much easier to get a strict sense of the centre of your screen when it's smaller and squarer. At least that's my excuse. :D
banger video as usual kandy looking forward to this one
Ps you can press M to go straight to the legend menu in the firing range!
Wow I never thought about these tips, definitely trying these tonight!
2 months ago I was good with the wingman and I remember watching this video now I suck, don’t know why
I once heard from Shroud and i don't remember his exact words but he said something along the lines of just playing the game, having fun and by playing the game you'll also be practicing and getting better at the game and after that i stopped obsessing over aim
in apex the "breathing" makes the center of your screen go slightly up and down and it really shows when you use a sniper the reason it is so noticeable on the wingman is bc there is no stock for it. that might be wrong but im pretty sure its right
I wanna know if that guy has studied any pedagogy because he’s actually a really good teacher
I get less kills with wingman but man getting kills with that gun brings a ton of joy
This video was so rad.
I have an idea Kandy.
Why not do a series, get Hollow and a fresh brand new player. You then start with Smurfs but when the player is in new lobbies you both don’t fight.
This way you will learn how hard this game is for new players…something non of us ever will know as we were there even when octane didn’t exist.
By playing and helping this new player I think both of you would grow as nothing makes you better then teaching someone else.
I can tell you it's pretty hard starting out especially if your a solo with friends it's much easier
Damn this soar dude is super mature.
Tankk you fot the free lessons
lmao me watching like im going to get better over night
you know what, that kinda works out. I mean the part of stopping paying attention to the flicking action and instead aiming with the centre of your screen.
Love this video! More content like this please
This was a such a great video. Kandy, you asked great questions and I appreciated the way Hollow was able to explain so clearly. Honest question, would it be harder to use the Wingman on 200ping and above or would ping make no difference to the tips given?
for all it's faults with servers and netcode, sub 250/300 ping works really well, think they do some weird client side registration that compares to server registration with a decent margin of error, and when it faults to much you get the no reg hits, cus you client has registered the hit on your side, but just failed to confirm it with the server, unlike most games that just handle it all server side and 200 ping just feels aw full and you basically have to compensate for the ping when aiming.