Talkin' Ship - Engine Room!

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  • @Bobfelli
    @Bobfelli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Navy practice is for. Four hour watches with a three section rotation. Routine would be four hours on watch followed by eight hours off. The "off" time was spent at meals, engineering and shipwide drills, and sleep.
    In addition to water, there were salt tablets to ensure electrolytes were maintained. If conditions got too hot then watches could be shortened to two hours except under battle conditions.
    The rudder angle indicator was important because the steam steering engine is also located in the STBD Engine Room.
    Bob Fellingham MM1(SS) Retired. Former member of the 1st Texas Volunteers, BB35

  • @Bobfelli
    @Bobfelli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Love this old ship. I was a member of the First Texas Volunteers, BB 35 for twelve years. I am also a retired US Navy Machinists Mate. Typical watch rotation for the period was four hours on watch and eight hours off. In high heat, engineering rotation was shortened to two hours. Salt tablets were the order of the day. Off time was spent on maintenance, drills, and some sleep. Maximum rpm on the engines was 127 Revolutions per minute if I remember correctly. The piston stroke was 4 feet. The piston sizes were designed so that each piston would have the same thrust or force on the crankshaft. Two cams for each valve were connected via the Stephenson link rocker to the reversing steam piston on the outboard side. One of the cam was for ahead rotation and the other was for reverse. The high pressure piston exhausts to the intermediate piston which exhausts to the two low pressure pistons. These engines were about the same horsepower rating as the reciprocating engines on the Titanic. They are somewhat smaller in size due to having a higher supplied steam pressure.

    • @purplepenguin6195
      @purplepenguin6195 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      if the engine room was knocked out, what kind of automatic backup electrical system does the ship have?

    • @Bobfelli
      @Bobfelli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@purplepenguin6195 The dynamo rooms which contained two dynamos each were not in the Enginerooms. The forward one is in compartment A-39. Its forward bulkhead was at frame 41 just aft of #2 turret barbette and directly below the fwd control station. The after Dynamo Room was in compartment C-24 just forward of #3 turret barbette and just aft of #3 fire Room. Its forward bulkhead is frame 77 1/2. The forward Emergency Diesel Generator is in Compartment A-13-5 directly under #1 turret barbette. The forward bulkhead is on frame 41 on th e Port side of center. The after Emergency Diesel Generator is in Compartment D-11 directly under #5 turret barbette to the STBD side of center. The forward bulkhead is frame 115. Each Emergency Diesel Generator has its associated emergency switchboard in the compartment. As you can see, the electrical distribution system was widely disbursed. Unfortunately, the compartment for the after EDG was flooded many years ago. That engine is now just a pile of rusting steel.

    • @charlesmoore766
      @charlesmoore766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bobfelli Hey Bob. Are the the same Bob that was FTV, and worked at the STNP? This is Chuck, an FTV ghost from the past

    • @Bobfelli
      @Bobfelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesmoore766 Yes I am. I am on messenger too

    • @charlesmoore766
      @charlesmoore766 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bobfelli How can I get a hold of you without making my contact info public? I don't do messenger or social media

  • @jabbiernitisaro9736
    @jabbiernitisaro9736 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    We need to respect the ship that came in to battle because with out them we lose

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      battle?
      what battle?
      I don't know about you, but WW2 ended around 80 years ago

    • @chrisb9960
      @chrisb9960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steyn1775 Considering the ship was built in 1912 (over a century old), its shakedown cruise was an actual mission (to Mexico), was the first Navy ship to get anti aircraft artillery, first to get on board radar, served in both WWI & WWII (to include Normandy and Okinawa) you should give some latitude for the history that the ship represents.
      The history of this vessel is truly amazing. It even has an enemy shell onboard that after it struck didn’t go off and was defused after arriving at port.

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisb9960 sorry man, my 3 year younger me was stupid and didn't know much about history, now I am very much a history nerd and have respect for all the vehicles, planes and ships that fought in WW2

  • @mikep3180
    @mikep3180 7 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    This ship needs to be saved

    • @westpool8807
      @westpool8807 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yes i a agree i bought it in the game to help save it. i am from tx and i think its shameful that they let it get in this condition

    • @Odin029
      @Odin029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@riseandshinejp The state of Texas has the dough. As much as Texas brags on itself they should be ashamed of how they've treated USS Texas.

  • @charlesmoore766
    @charlesmoore766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 1910 concept drawings for Texas included turbines instead of recip engines. In 1923 the Navy again considered turbines for in the ships collection of drawings show turbines located where the boiler and the boilers outboard of the turbines

  • @black07rr
    @black07rr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Imagine how hot and loud it was down there during full acceleration

    • @oldfucker68
      @oldfucker68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is very hot and very loud. It sucks the life out of you.

    • @deanc99
      @deanc99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oldfucker68 When I as in the south Pacific, we were restricted to only 10 minutes at a time in the engine room. You'd crawl up the ladder and lay on the deck covered in sweat and shivering because the outside was so much colder.

  • @boboala1
    @boboala1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome presentation on the inner workings/mechanics of this historical ship's engines! I gotta get down there & take the tour someday!

  • @charlesmoore766
    @charlesmoore766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fastest speed achieved was 22.28 knots during the October 1913 speed trials off the coast of Maine

  • @vicmclaglen1631
    @vicmclaglen1631 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There's some perspective; took >21 minutes in a straight line to reach full speed.

    • @stephenwong7465
      @stephenwong7465 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The limitation on acceleration and deceleration on a steam ship is limited by the firing rate of the boiler. Its a coordinated dance between the burnerman (guy running the boiler) and the throttleman (guy controlling the amount of steam into the engine) If they don't work together you'll suck the boiler off line and you lose the shaft until you get the plant cross-connected to get steam from the other boiler.
      When the engineroom receives an order to change speed, the order is repeated on a PA that you can hear throughout the engineroom. The burnerman has to increase or decrease the firing rate of the boiler to generate more or less steam to meet the demand of the engine, he has to add more fuel and more air, assemble and insert more burner barrels, light the fires on the new burner barrels, etc. Someone else has to increase the feed rate to add more water into the boiler otherwise very soon there won't be enough water to generate the steam, etc. At the same time the throttleman will follow the acceleration tables and keep tabs on the main steam pressure gauge to determine how much more steam to admit to the engine.
      During conditions which require the ship to respond to speed changes quickly, the engineering watch team will do something called "double up/double down" which means double the rate of the acceleration table and deceleration table. It is something that is practiced often and is just as safe but is hard on the machinery. The standard acceleration table minimizes "wear" on the machinery.

  • @claytonhowe2309
    @claytonhowe2309 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This Docent had immense information. Very impressive presentation.

  • @jagsdomain203
    @jagsdomain203 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Once again WG thanks for the save the texas. I had forgotten about the Texas I have been promoting it as much as I can and Facebook posting to do what I can.
    Tha la for the Texas camo it is Awsom.

    • @colinsdad1
      @colinsdad1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Jerry Glaze Couldn't agree more!! This ship represents the LAST of the WW1 "Dreadnaught" type of Battleships. Here in MA, we were lucky enough to save our USS Massachusetts, which, if I recall, is the only South Dakota class Battleship left. It too requires an immense amount of upkeep to keep it safe for visitors.
      I hope the younger generations DON'T forget the history that ships such as the Texas represents.

    • @jagsdomain203
      @jagsdomain203 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      colinsdad1 i lived at the consitiution and cassen young. One regreat is i never won the lottery to sail on her around castle island. While liveing there we had the tall ships 2 times. Indeed we are very lucky

    • @colinsdad1
      @colinsdad1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jerry Glaze Sad part is I've never been to either.... looks like I'm overdue for a visit....

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@colinsdad1 Alabama is another South Dakota class battleship, just like Massachusetts, that was saved as a museum ship. It is a shame that none of the "famous 12 standard-type" battleships survived to become museum ships. None of the battleships built before 1914 and between 1914 (Texas) and 1941 (North Carolina) were saved!!!

    • @colinsdad1
      @colinsdad1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nogoodnameleft I feel sorry for the Brits with their WW2 ships... They got to keep a light cruiser... Yay. Just the fact that they allowed the Warspite to get scrapped brings a tear to my eye.

  • @davidncw4613
    @davidncw4613 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    OUTSTANDING! Thank you. Excellent content and camera work. btw ships flags and camos bought and gifted to div mates, donations sent to TX. You might want to prominently display a link for donations.

  • @stevenmoore4612
    @stevenmoore4612 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes she needs to be saved! She should not meet the same fate as say for example the USS enterprise had. She should have been turned into a museum for how famous and legendary she was! The same should go for the Texas!

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft ปีที่แล้ว

      USS Washington should have been saved too but she became forgotten and scrapped despite being the only U.S. battleship to singlehandedly sink an enemy battleship without the assistance of other ships like destroyers' torpedoes. What happened to Enterprise, Saratoga, and Washington was a travesty. Washington singlehandedly saved Guadalcanal in November 1942. If she didn't do what she did at Guadalcanal the USS South Dakota would have been sunk.

  • @Jackice
    @Jackice 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    yet still no link to www.battleshiptexas.org in the description so here WG since you say you want to help her add it in there.

  • @adamskinner5868
    @adamskinner5868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    another interesting insight into how the Texas functioned, thanks

  • @rogerhuber3133
    @rogerhuber3133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a shame the TP&W people control the ship now as they don't have the will or financial ability to take care of her and spend their time, money and efforts on the great Texas parks. We can't forget the contribution the Texas made and the fact she's the last of the Dreadnaught type battleships and, as pointed out here, is the last of this type ship powerplant. It's disrespectful letting her rot away and sink at her mooring.

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft ปีที่แล้ว

      They gave control of the ship to the wonderful Battleship Texas Foundation in 2020. They are doing a wonderful job fixing her up.

  • @donniemontoya9300
    @donniemontoya9300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    YES, more Texas videos!

  • @Edax_Royeaux
    @Edax_Royeaux 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a basic question. The USS Iowa has 212,000 shp from it's engines. What was it about those engines that gave it almost 12 times the horsepower that Texas had? Was it the 30 year gap in technology? Engine size? Type of engine used?

    • @LaBomba-up9dp
      @LaBomba-up9dp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ltflak I believe the biggest change that gave the newer ships such higher amounts of horse power was increased steam pressure from having welded steam pipes systems. As Tom said Texas only had up to 270 psi in her steam mains, while wiki says Iowa could produce up to 600.

    • @Shadx27
      @Shadx27 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the change to 'improved' steam turbines greatly improved performance. Edit: The turbine technology greatly improved latter.

    • @fmmchannel6365
      @fmmchannel6365 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      let me try to answer this. first as u know from the video The BB Texas was propelled by Steam Reciprocating engine in which The engineer said was the best for efficiency at that time. But, u need to know that in 30 years gap, steam turbines has really well developed and it turned out that the steam turbine has the double efficiency compared to Reciprocating steam engine. The steam turbine is also has the advantage of power it can produce vs the weight it has compared to the steam reciprocating engine (read power to weight ratio). for more information in fact today Steam turbine is still be used for Electric generation in Powerplants cz it is the most suitable engine that can produce power that needed for big powerplant

    • @kayjay7780
      @kayjay7780 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Iowa class use 600# super heated (dry) steam driving 4 Turbines each coupled to a reduction gear and propeller - super heat was 850 deg - most of the energy in the steam is the temperature not the pressure. In the 1960s the US Navy went to 1200#/975 deg superheated steam. You really didn’t want to be around a steam leak. At low speed the reciprocating engine was actually pretty efficient - US BB prior to Texas actually had switched to turbines.

    • @Orkel2
      @Orkel2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, there are many accounts from other, damaged or destroyed ships, of scalded, practically melting sailors climbing out of engine rooms after a shell or shells got inside. And dying soon after. Steam pipes bursting is nasty.

  • @philliplozano7326
    @philliplozano7326 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish the USS Texas was not leaving San Jacinto Battlegrounds, she will surely be missed...

    • @chrisb9960
      @chrisb9960 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully her next home will provide enough attention as not to let the hull degrade to this extent again.

  • @charlesmoore766
    @charlesmoore766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The recip engines pushed the ship 726,000 miles

  • @ntomenicgiorgo3598
    @ntomenicgiorgo3598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Tom Scott the older one. Great work!

  • @andypage9
    @andypage9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Airplanes have propellers. Ships have screws.

    • @chrisb9960
      @chrisb9960 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would the ever discuss the different geometries of the propellers? There are so many of them.
      Screw propellers
      Skewback propeller
      Modular propeller
      Voith Schneider propeller
      controllable-pitch propeller
      Etc. etc. etc.

  • @texastopshotsphotography2997
    @texastopshotsphotography2997 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the videos, they are great. I have always wanted to see the boiler rooms, will you make a video of that area of the ship?

  • @captainjohny5503
    @captainjohny5503 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, I hope Texas after the repaires would be as good as Averof is today ! :D

  • @jochenheiden
    @jochenheiden 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent production. I learned a lot!

  • @ffwest12
    @ffwest12 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fondly called a Three legged jackass or triple expansion reciprocating steam engine. The fore runner to the Steam Turbines used later on. The Turbines had a combination of 2 or 3 turbines running thru a reduction gear to the main propeller shaft. Each Turbine engine had an HP turbine LP turbine (with a Reverse section) and in some cases a cruising turbine.

    • @Melanie16040
      @Melanie16040 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      But they had four legs... Also while later turbines were able to run at much higher RPM and used reduction gearing to couple to the prop shaft, turbines of this era were directly coupled to the shaft and would run in the 100-200rpm range (depending on the specific prop configuration).

  • @Mynx31
    @Mynx31 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Many young men learned about hot lube jobs aboard this ship.

  • @tonytavary3388
    @tonytavary3388 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love it, thank y'all!

  • @terranceroff8113
    @terranceroff8113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trevsor you are having so MUCH fun getting edumacated!

  • @nostradamusofgames5508
    @nostradamusofgames5508 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    fyi you can buy the uss texas pack in wows which some of that money goes to the museum to keep her floating (for now).

  • @williamkeith8944
    @williamkeith8944 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To save the Texas it will need to be dry docked permanently to be displayed. The constant water on the hull and electrolysis is causing the structural rust that is so expensive to be repaired.

    • @bigz4302
      @bigz4302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's ways to counteract that without putting her in drydock

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft ปีที่แล้ว

      No. She is too big to be permanently drydocked. After 5-10 years in drydock gravity will destroy her. Mikasa is not a real museum ship. She was destroyed in a large explosion in the 1920s and 60% of her was lost forever. What we see of her is parts of her and that is more of a memorial to the wreck of Mikasa than the actual Mikasa. None of her guns remain and the "guns" on their are fiberglass replicas.

  • @bullreeves1109
    @bullreeves1109 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Keep this Project valor going till July 2018

  • @rpbautis2000
    @rpbautis2000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not gonna lie, I hope Texas gets saved as it is one of the few ships remaining with hand cranked and MOVEABLE 40mm and 76.6mm aa gun. The uss Alabama has all of her 40mms welded shut. My kids love playing on the Texas's aa and I like to history and design of the Texas. I hope the Texas can remain so that all can enjoy its beauty.

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft ปีที่แล้ว

      Texas benefited from a windfall of 10 40mm Bofors quads in the 1980s. In 1948 the Navy removed all of her original Bofors quads sadly because other ships needed them. In the 1980s they reactivated all the Iowa-class battleships so they had to throw away all their good-condition Bofors quads and Texas snatched up 10 of them (I think they have 2 more in reserve so they can easily fix the 10 Bofors on-deck with spare parts if need be) so they could throw away the horrible 4 1.1 inch quad guns that the Navy installed in 1948. Those 1.1 quads were terrible. 6 to 8 of those 10 Bofors 40mm quads are actually from Missouri! The rest they acquired from the other 3 Iowa battleships. They are not only restoring and repainting these beautiful Bofors quads but they want every future visitor to sit in those guns and move them and play with them frequently.
      Those Bofors 40mm guns are legendary. AC-130 gunships didn't retire them until 2020!!!

  • @markbriehl6860
    @markbriehl6860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    EDUCATION MY DEAR WATSON, EDUCATION.

  • @gnorris10
    @gnorris10 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    EXCELLENT as always

  • @Nico_Alexander287
    @Nico_Alexander287 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Texas is a great battleship i like it so much :)

  • @deltaraven
    @deltaraven 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so the bb tex is a V8

    • @ussjohnston1
      @ussjohnston1 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Delta Raven not really they’re two separate engines both are in lines

    • @deltaraven
      @deltaraven 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah ino the v8 is a single block in a V arrangment just calling it a v8 sounds cool

  • @worldtraveler930
    @worldtraveler930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not entirely grasping how a triple expansion steam engine has 4 cylinders??!?

    • @Kevin-go2dw
      @Kevin-go2dw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Triple expansion, four cylinder steam engine - one small high pressure cylinder, one intermediate pressure cylinder and two large low pressure cylinders. Cranks are set at 90 degrees. The reason for two low pressure cylinders is due to the volume of steam you do not require a super large low pressure cylinder.
      Titanic (and sister ships) also had two triple expansion, four cylinder engines (that exhausted into a non reversing turbine).

  • @janiechamplin8524
    @janiechamplin8524 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just so cool !

  • @eddiez7865
    @eddiez7865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    when will better ships come I mean I don't have an X/ 10 but add XI/ 11 - XX / 20

  • @stavik8212
    @stavik8212 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats the music? ☺️

  • @jaimecf3083
    @jaimecf3083 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, I'm Jaime. I think that they can get the ship out of the water and put around it something like water.

    • @YoungBrave2006
      @YoungBrave2006 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      They need to do repairs to it before they can even drydock it, otherwise it will fall apart when they pull it out of the water. They explained that in the last Talking Ship video.

  • @snakes3425
    @snakes3425 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #SaveUSSTexas
    #SaveUSSOlympia

  • @mickolesmana5899
    @mickolesmana5899 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Takao engine's rooom

  • @rogersandmo
    @rogersandmo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    to bad they cant run the engine to and not just a static display

  • @ILSRWY4
    @ILSRWY4 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Prop" LMFAO... Props are on airplanes... this is a ship... they are screws.....

  • @deltaraven
    @deltaraven 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this guy looks like he's bored with this 15:36

    • @tomscotttheolderone364
      @tomscotttheolderone364 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you were referring to me, no, I wasn't bored. In fact, I was concentrating really hard on how to answer questions. I had no forewarning of what they were supposed to be. I hesitated and stammered a lot to try and boil answers down to something fairly short. It is my nature to give long, detailed and somewhat boring responses.

    • @boogts
      @boogts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Tom, thank you for your work on the Texas! Hoping to make it down there and sign up for one of the tours that gives you the most access.

  • @roccozecca9302
    @roccozecca9302 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No "Hemmi" abourd this vehicle'..!🤔

  • @santiagovalenciarodriguez7338
    @santiagovalenciarodriguez7338 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg

  • @TheFunkhouser
    @TheFunkhouser 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah Im lost 1 min in

  • @hooberdoober576
    @hooberdoober576 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too much talk; not enough procedures and equipment checkout. Signed.. U.S. Navy MM2 (in the 1970s)

  • @fredericnystrom9045
    @fredericnystrom9045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The docent either doesn't know what he's talking about, or isn't very good at explaining how this engine is put together and how things work. He doesn't mention where the cooling water is used (the crank bearings). The way he says it, hints that the engine cylinders are cooled which of course they are not. The eccentric rods don't move the piston, they move the valve stem which moves the valve. He doesn't mention that they pointing to a valve crosshead and not a main crosshead. He never mentions that this type of valve gear is called Stephenson valve gear. His explanation of double-acting cylinders is wrong, they aren't double acting to support the weight of the pistons but rather to extract more power from the steam, etc., etc., etc., etc. I see docents everywhere that aren't experts in what they're doing, just well meaning volunteers, teaching nonsense and perpetuating public ignorance, it drives me nuts, can you tell? Nothing personal Tom, maybe you were just nervous, thanks for volunteering.

    • @nogoodnameleft
      @nogoodnameleft ปีที่แล้ว

      You go volunteer and do a better job then. You won't though because you are a cowardly loser.

  • @MrItive
    @MrItive 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    we should scrap it and make houses for the homeless. A old ship has no use to the society

    • @bigbigmurphy
      @bigbigmurphy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It costs more money to scrap the ship, and, houses will not be built by themselves. Moreover, no one builds cheap houses using steel.............

    • @codymccord3556
      @codymccord3556 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Another thing is. Its history. Its the last original dreadnaught in the world. How would u feel if u made something extincted. This thing has been through 2 world wars. It tells a story of the men who served on this fine ship.(ohh scrap that national historic monument to make tin houses, you liberal)

    • @davidjones341
      @davidjones341 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      HEY LIBERAL LEAVE USS TEXAS ALONE AND FYI LEARN TO PROTECT YOUR HISTORY

    • @codymccord3556
      @codymccord3556 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      dav id jones I know right

    • @tylerburgess2650
      @tylerburgess2650 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You are probably the stupidest person in the world