I think over time the "possessive fan" mentality has died down a bit, but it is something that should be brought up and discussed more often. Especially from people who've experienced it or know people who've experienced it.
Everytime I think it’s dying down, fans prove me wrong. Karina from Aespa and seunghan from RIIZE are recent examples proving that things aren’t actually getting better in kpop.
I think if kpop people just start acting like it’s not a big deal and actually enjoy themselves and talk at awards shows it will help. You have to set the tone and expectations for your fans. Don’t lie to fans about loving them.
for the longest time I used to think eli was so boring, cuz he didnt talk much back then, but seeing him now on this show I realize he is so dmn funny😭 looool
what ashley said about fan being possessive over their artist and about western fans is exactly correct, nd i also think idols feels more comfortable in foreign while promoting rather in korea exactly like what suju leeteuk said in his live
Everything you said in this episode!!!!! Idols should be able to live their lives out in the open. They do not belong to anyone and just because YOU decided to spend money on merch doesn't mean you are owed anything beyond the merch you purchase!!! Yeah we can all be a little delulu all in good fun, enjoying the escape music/movies/tv can give us BUT It's weird and gross to think they belong to you like that. I think the parasocialness that some of these companies push does real damage to fans that can't handle and realize the lines their blurring.
Spilling the tea...Preach!!! Knetizens, Kpop companies and kidols....listen!!!! No wonder when worst comes to worst idols spiral down so deeply. Happy mindset gives positive vibes.
Omg, this is so freaking refreshing to watch and listen to! I need more idols to be brave and talk more about this. Honestly, being a K-pop idol fan for more than 10 years, I’ve seen so much, and one thing I didn’t understand until now is wtf idols have to apologise when they’re caught dating someone like !!?!!?!! Seriously, every time I’ve seen articles on idols apologising because of a dating scandal (even calling it a scandal is too much), it’s felt like they did a crime or something-which they’re not, obviously. Honestly, things need to change though; we’re approaching 2025
Kangnam and Xander give me the same unfiltered vibes, maybe Xander's a little more unhinged idk LOL. good to see Eli again! would love to see Key on this show too.
10:34 Yeah Eli, we only found out a year later after their registration... I was so happy for him. It was hard because he was literally the first active idol to do that... he literally carried the burden for people like Sungmin who married a few months later and Chen who had to fight tooth and nail but it's possible because Eli did it first. But U-Kiss really had a lot of members that got married. Eli, Dongho, Kibum, Kiseop, Hoon, bruh....🤣
너무 재밌다🩷🩷🫶🏻🫶🏻 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 알렉산더오빠 폭탄돌리기 벌칙하는데 무관심인거 찐친 맞닼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 아니 근뎈ㅋㅋㅋ 언니 위험했던거 알지 ? 인스타 이야기 안했으면ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 오랜만에 게스트로 불러주셔서 감사합니다 제작진드을🩷 덕분에 오랜만에 언니 자컨 말고 다른 방송에서 볼수 있었어용 아리랑 최고🩷
i do miss kpop having REAL cunty concepts but at the same time... looking back those were being performed by minors/barely adults idols. if cunty kpop is back i want 25+ y/os on the stage please
This ep. makes me so ranty lol!! WTF -Toxic fans can leave, honestly. I NEVER understood it, & we don't support that here! -Apologies should be for actual problems (which should also be few & far between, like companies basically raise some of these kids & need to help them understand what it is to be a good person for real, not just in front of cameras. Like give them solid ground. Because, also, being irresponsible & disrespectful behind the scenes isn't being "normal" either.) So, toxic company culture & industry entertainment (party) culture is also canceled. Someone give them the memo.
idol music isnt supposed to be deep tho like i get what they mean but acting like there isnt a difference between singers and idol-singers will just confuse you more. like when ashley said western celebrities are treated differently than idols, well, thats because of what the concept of idol implies. its a weird system and needs a lot of change in order to humanize both idols and fans (in fan culture and in law/contracts), but musically wise, i think its okay to not to force it to have super deep lyrics. companies are doing it (to claim their idols wrote them) and 😭 lets just say it doesnt always work
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Eli’s story remind me of SJ’s Sungmin with his r/s and marriage…. the fact that they destroyed his career is still upsetting from a foreign fan’s pov.
WE NEED THE TEA MOREEEE like, GO GUYS, TELL THEM !!!
I think over time the "possessive fan" mentality has died down a bit, but it is something that should be brought up and discussed more often. Especially from people who've experienced it or know people who've experienced it.
but the seunghan thing was months ago?? i feel like things got worse after that
Everytime I think it’s dying down, fans prove me wrong. Karina from Aespa and seunghan from RIIZE are recent examples proving that things aren’t actually getting better in kpop.
@@layloo5244also jungwon and winter
It’s just that the SM idols have the worst outcomes of dating news basically
I think if kpop people just start acting like it’s not a big deal and actually enjoy themselves and talk at awards shows it will help. You have to set the tone and expectations for your fans. Don’t lie to fans about loving them.
for the longest time I used to think eli was so boring, cuz he didnt talk much back then, but seeing him now on this show I realize he is so dmn funny😭 looool
ashleeyyyy so happy seeing you here
This is actually HILARIOUS 😂❤
omg seeing eli and xander again is so nostalgic!!!! takes me back to days of tuning into arirang's pops in seoul iykyk
Loving , enjoying every second of the show..... 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
what ashley said about fan being possessive over their artist and about western fans is exactly correct, nd i also think idols feels more comfortable in foreign while promoting rather in korea exactly like what suju leeteuk said in his live
Oh, Eli ❤ great to see you!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Wow! I like this show so real.The answer so direct👏😍❤️
the way eli hyung said SING LIVE yooo thats so savage and just hit more different now
Loved it man
Someone atleast talked about it
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ아 진짜 핵 꿀잼이닼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Waiting for more episodes to release
Can't wait for the next episode omg
Arirang should give Ashley her show back!
She left herself shi didn't want to do radio anymore
@Karin.889 Are you sure about that? Do you work for Arirang?
@@NURREDIN she herself mentioned that she worked there for 6 and a half years and she feels like she won't grow there anymore
Everything you said in this episode!!!!!
Idols should be able to live their lives out in the open.
They do not belong to anyone and just because YOU decided to spend money on merch doesn't mean you are owed anything beyond the merch you purchase!!!
Yeah we can all be a little delulu all in good fun, enjoying the escape music/movies/tv can give us BUT It's weird and gross to think they belong to you like that.
I think the parasocialness that some of these companies push does real damage to fans that can't handle and realize the lines their blurring.
Spilling the tea...Preach!!! Knetizens, Kpop companies and kidols....listen!!!! No wonder when worst comes to worst idols spiral down so deeply. Happy mindset gives positive vibes.
Omg, this is so freaking refreshing to watch and listen to! I need more idols to be brave and talk more about this. Honestly, being a K-pop idol fan for more than 10 years, I’ve seen so much, and one thing I didn’t understand until now is wtf idols have to apologise when they’re caught dating someone like !!?!!?!! Seriously, every time I’ve seen articles on idols apologising because of a dating scandal (even calling it a scandal is too much), it’s felt like they did a crime or something-which they’re not, obviously. Honestly, things need to change though; we’re approaching 2025
Kangnam and Xander give me the same unfiltered vibes, maybe Xander's a little more unhinged idk LOL. good to see Eli again!
would love to see Key on this show too.
Guurrrll this show is good!!!
Enjoyed it❤❤
Man, I miss the times were idols were real. Now their all so fake. Such a fun video
Eli was so real with sing live!!!
10:34 Yeah Eli, we only found out a year later after their registration... I was so happy for him. It was hard because he was literally the first active idol to do that... he literally carried the burden for people like Sungmin who married a few months later and Chen who had to fight tooth and nail but it's possible because Eli did it first. But U-Kiss really had a lot of members that got married. Eli, Dongho, Kibum, Kiseop, Hoon, bruh....🤣
eli was living like a real G. that boy didn't need to be asked twice!😄
I like how he mentioned about cher and madonna. Cause i always thought the same too. Hahaha..
shout out to jessica pdnim in the background. i see you. i miss you!☺
Ashley fans from get real❤❤❤ love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩
This was fun.
ASHLEY IS SO FUNNY SJFKHSFKHFS
2:49 the only Chinese idol at that time in my knowledge was Hangeng 😲
Sooo....a female idol trainee at SM? 😆
There was zhoumi too
@@Adoory he wasn't active in Korea then
Omg I also think of SM
Has to be someone from fx
This is so fun!!! Yes please bring back kpop idols with personality, everyone is a robot now cause they get cancelled for breathing -.-
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅌ날것그잡채넼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
너무 재밌다🩷🩷🫶🏻🫶🏻
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 알렉산더오빠 폭탄돌리기 벌칙하는데 무관심인거 찐친 맞닼ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
아니 근뎈ㅋㅋㅋ 언니 위험했던거 알지 ?
인스타 이야기 안했으면ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
오랜만에 게스트로 불러주셔서 감사합니다 제작진드을🩷
덕분에 오랜만에 언니 자컨 말고 다른 방송에서
볼수 있었어용
아리랑 최고🩷
Ashley 💜💜💜💜💜wait, is this ep1? The 2 male hosts, whi are they? 🥺 Did i miss their intro?🥺
Louder Ashley! LOUDERRRRRR!!!!!
so many shots fired
i do miss kpop having REAL cunty concepts but at the same time... looking back those were being performed by minors/barely adults idols. if cunty kpop is back i want 25+ y/os on the stage please
you have that now with kiss of life. Try them out
@KadhalLoveAmour i stan kiof since their debut
@KadhalLoveAmour its not the same tho
@@iii9591 mhmm! I know what you mean!
ASHLEY!!!!!
This ep. makes me so ranty lol!! WTF
-Toxic fans can leave, honestly. I NEVER understood it, & we don't support that here!
-Apologies should be for actual problems (which should also be few & far between, like companies basically raise some of these kids & need to help them understand what it is to be a good person for real, not just in front of cameras. Like give them solid ground. Because, also, being irresponsible & disrespectful behind the scenes isn't being "normal" either.)
So, toxic company culture & industry entertainment (party) culture is also canceled. Someone give them the memo.
❤❤❤❤
Idols are not punishing bad behaviour. So fans think they can do whatever they want.
Eli xander❤
I'm so curious who Eli dated back then 😂😂
idol music isnt supposed to be deep tho like i get what they mean but acting like there isnt a difference between singers and idol-singers will just confuse you more. like when ashley said western celebrities are treated differently than idols, well, thats because of what the concept of idol implies. its a weird system and needs a lot of change in order to humanize both idols and fans (in fan culture and in law/contracts), but musically wise, i think its okay to not to force it to have super deep lyrics. companies are doing it (to claim their idols wrote them) and 😭 lets just say it doesnt always work
so right
Wtf who is the girl Eli dated???
*PERTAMAX*
Why is he out and doing the talk show, what about his ex??
Hi guys can you guys invite Newjeans hanni for your show if possible. I want to hear her story. If you guys dare plz do this
we’d love to have Hanni on the show too..🥹