@@sollyprogrammer3750 I stopped going to church for many reason's. Some personal, some for annoyances with the Christians there. I've been to many churches, and it always comes down to the same reasons. But the main reason I bounce on all churches is based on what the pastor is preaching. The always find a way to loop back to the first day I went there and preach that, as if the bible were a small book.
I'm just glad to know it's not God's people who define my faith but the truth of the Gospel I've experienced and believe in. People will mismanage the truth but the truth will always remain truth.
The Bible says do not forsake the assembly of yourself together. We need the fellowship whether it is reading the Bible and worshipping at church or in your own home with other believers
Look at the world we live in. Look at our president and his supporters and the message, ugliness and violence they defend and encourage while calling themselves Christians. I have questioned this just like he did? Haven't you?
When I was hurt by Christian, I didn't leave God. I stumble in some areas but I got back up. What I learn that I was putting trust in the wrong person. But I try saying some of still stuff to Christ myself. And I was told in so many words. I can't blame others for folks. I have my own relationship with him. I really think you just followed the money bro!
The people. Not the Christ is a turn off 😏 most of us have felt this way when trying to walk our unique calling... callings that may not look neat and clean.
Honest question, how could you be turned off by the people, when you know they're human? When you knew from the beginning that it was about Christ? 1 Peter 4:11 if someone speaks, let him speak God’s words; if someone serves, let him do so out of strength that God supplies; so that in everything God may be glorified through Yeshua the Messiah - to him be glory and power forever and ever. Amen. 12 Dear friends, don’t regard as strange the fiery ordeal occurring among you to test you, as if something extraordinary were happening to you. 13 Rather, to the extent that you share the fellowship of the Messiah’s sufferings, rejoice; so that you will rejoice even more when his Sh’khinah is revealed.
The Broham Nation Because theologically the church is supposed to be representative of the body of Christ on earth. Lecrae's theology of the church may have (obviously) had to go through some necessary reforming because of the life experiences he was having. It sounds like his testimony of 'almost leaving Christianity' expresses more of an active desire to live a religionless life, rather than leaving the person of Christ himself. When those who you thought were your brothers and sisters in Christ condemn you for following his call to go fully into the world, that's going to cause you to doubt and have to reevaluate your faith.
I have been turned off by people who identify as Christian. I have met horrible hypocrites who hate and abuse in the name of Jesus. These people made me want nothing to do with Christianity. It wasn't until I actually read the bible and saw that Jesus was nothing like these people.
Fuck off Ruslan yo ass out here dropping diss tracks tryna act like your a Christian and shit. Miss me with that. Your whole label just breeds hypocrisy look at what happened to John
leadership is often a very lonely trek, at very least during seasons in many of our walks. This is especially true when trailblazing in very important and needed areas of darkness, in our progressively darkening world. But to you my brother Lecrae, and to any other leader, *Consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.* Hebrews 12:3 Pray for your leaders, this is not easy!
You seem so steeped in the word. So why is it, you're not able to discern that Lecrae's desire is not to be your brother. He wants to partner with the world.
Love covers a multitude of sin. A brother offended is harder than a city to be won. The Bible also teaches us to not be easily offended. The word tells us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Looking through these comments we could definitely upgrade our love packages for self and others. He who is without sin...you all know the rest. Can we at least pray for one another we already pray for our enemies, right.
Paul also notes that, while we can't judge/assess the unbelieving world by Biblical standards, we are to judge/assess one another. Obviously, there's a difference between prideful condemnation and genuinely concerned rebuke. I think it fair to highlight his role as a leader to many, many of whom don't have enough roots in their faith, yet, to discern God's distinct leading for them vs. His distinct leading of others; or concern themselves with considering how the righteousness of the Word in front of them surpasses that of any pastor, loved one, artist and even their own conscience. I also think it fair to underscore how the Church is continuously put on trial to an unbelieving world by its believers. I think it's helpful to be honest and not put on a smiley face, but what's the boundary? Where's the hope? I'm sure I'm guilty of responding to my own disdain re: the Church, along with many others. But if Jesus loves his Bride, and he were standing right in front of us, how would we talk about her then? Anywho, I feel like as long as Lecrae truly feels led in the direction he's going, I personally don't have a gripe (unless it's straight out irreverent). But it would be nice to see him, as a leader, also honestly address any stumbling blocks that his walk may be placing in the way of weaker brothers and sisters. I wonder if Jesus not only sent his own disciples away to shield the woman at the well, but also to shield them from a mission field that *they* were not ready to handle. I think this is a good example, not just of how vulnerable we can be at different points in our life, but of the great responsibility that comes with with a role that we may desire, have prayed for or have just been saddled with as we seek to be obedient to the Lord. Any form of leadership (great or small) isn't meant to be a cakewalk, or about serving ourselves, our art, our talent, our dreams; like the artists who contributed to the temple in the old testament, our calling is meant to be a tool that reflects the holiness/set-apartness of God to others. All that said, I definitely agree on the hope that we would all join in prayer for Lecrae. He's facing a lot. May God continue to help and lead--with a strong hand--our brother, his fam and all of whom have a voice in their lives (1 Cor 5:12-13; 1 Cor 6:1-6; Jn 7:21-24; Rom 14)
TeeJay Ross best comment and amen!that's why my generation is more and more lost: the modern Christianity living too much around the old Testament and focus on apparence of "perfection"
Lecrae is one of the most transparent dudes out there, I really don't understand why y'all keep questioning his agendas when he makes it so clear. He said that he's always had a heart to reach lost souls, but he changed his approach because he realized that you can't approach non-believers with heavy doctrine. He's doing his best to disciple people and help needy people, just because he's not yapping about it all the time doesn't mean he's not doing it. The bible also specifically tells us not to brag about good deeds we've done, so when y'all ask him to talk about if he witnessed to certain celebrities or not, y'all are really asking him to sin. Being loving and offering a hand to help is a way to witness, too.
But that doesnt also guarantee that the people he is wanting to "disciple" would get sound doctrine without having to be covered by their worldly standards. Lecrae must be having that kind of approach - it isnt wrong either, but is it efficient? Arent we suppose to reach out people with the clearest words? Words that dont only come out to our mouths but words that are spoken through our actions? Arent the people also deserve to be taught or reached out by the very truth, the word of God, instead of compromising with their ways/standards which are clearly abonished by the statutes of the Lord? Lecrae must start reassessing his way of reaching out to lost souls, because he might be leading them to halfbaked "christians" Yes, he has a good purpose, but hes doing it in a degenerative way.
Lecrae influence me to be more real, relevant and relatable in my raps. I still like to be Lyrical Theology, but since I believe Jesus called me to rap to the unsaved, I have to give it to them in a way that they understand the gospel without being over bible thumping.
I see a lot of comments saying he did it to himself. The man admitted his lack of faith was because of people not treating him right - rather than God not treating him right and he owned up to it. Anyone willing to admit they were wrong in their reactions to Crae? Sometimes we're so focused on being right that we end up acting outside of Christian morals. I was in a place like that, but I also remembered that it's Christ who I worship and not His followers. It's extremely sad and really quite interesting to see that he humbly admits his mess ups, yet no one wants to admit they may have treated him in a disrespectful manner. I'm not saying he's always right, however so often we are QUICK to point our fingers at another's flaws and yet, never quick to admit our own fault. Humility is to be practiced by all Christians, not just when we want, but when God asks it of us. Some may say God is asking you to go at him as you have, sure, okay, I won't argue back and forth on that, I just see this through a much different lens than many I guess.
And yet, he still did songs with secular artists. "C'mon guys, we're cool, we're real hip-hop too! Metro Boomin trusts ME, and we're not corny anymore!"
Why should I feel bad for someone that was claiming Christ and was not producing any fruits and was causing others to stumble. I keep him pray but he needs to put Christ back as his focus and stop trying to be like the world.
So much infighting. The father weeps when he looks down upon his children. When brother raises sword against brother. For they are too caught up in making war with one another. Forgetting about the one task given to them, to preach the gospel and make disciples. If only his children could do that one thing our world would be a very different place.
Reading all these comments got me thinking about my own walk with God. I need to do a self examination, work out my own salvation. Lord help me see my own sin. I don't want to be so caught up in some one else's sins, flaws that I miss the mark myself. One thing for sure, bigger level, bigger devil. Satan mad at Lecrea because his music is getting played at a public school football games, T.V shows. I wonder if my life was in a spotlight what would people say about my walk in Christ on their TH-cam channel.
The problem is lecrae wants to be accepted by other people but he got to understand not everyone going to receive him. He even said it in one of his songs that the industry shut the door on him because the message he was trying to bring. At the end of the day lecrae can't fold just because he been rejected
He's spoken the truth, and thats where im at in my life right now. Life has been tough lately and im at a point where sometimes i see death as the solution even when i know its not. And the church i go to and the people i live with have contributed to me hating myself and being lost, I hope and pray that God touches my heart again so i can get back to where my relationship with him was.
Thank you for keeping it real! I feel the exact same way sometimes.. about religion and your example of relationships too lol love your music Lecrae! I really appreciate the kind of music you create. It's plays a big part of my life and happiness. Thank you!
I am not. He is human and he is questioning the state of our country, of our world and wondering how he and those people (some that support TRUMP) can both call themselves Christians. It is ok to question and need to reboot.
it is subtle deception, he puts down Gods people and gives no redeeming quality, like if he is the only one "doing it right" by trying to fellowship with the world. no man is above rebuke, doesn't matter how famous u get
@@unknownunknown4029 The fuck does supporting Trump have to do with anything? Weird of you to try to make that point considering Trump has brought back God into the white house.
@J why you flustered??? Git the fuck outa here with your white rage. Go follow Michael W. Smith or the Gaither Brothers or something. Enjoy your white privileged life with them fellas. Fuck
I appreciate Lecrae's answer because of the honesty, but I hope he understands the "organized religion" he is complaining about isn't every church congregation and every Christian. He needs to be careful about brushing all believers that disagree with him with a broad brush. Also, quoting unsaved people's statements about Christians must be taken with a grain of salt since they don't spiritually discern the things of God (1 Corinthians 2:14). In addition, he mentioned that they didn't understand the direction he was going in. Well, some may not understand in a self-righteous way, but there are many that didn't understand based on the Word of God. Sometimes we have to examine ourselves in the midst of criticizing other believers. They could certainly be wrong and even judgmental (in the wrong way), but sometimes we can put ourselves in a victim mode as if all of our decisions are right or righteous. But, no offense, if Lecrae "left" Christianity, the Bible declares he wasn't among us according to 1 John 2:19. I'm glad his trip overseas helped his perspective, but it better be his love for Christ based on a regenerated heart that makes him run the race because if we want to leave every time a believer (or non-believer) criticizes us, we don't understand the depths of sin and the grace of God.
Eric Smith That's what I was thinking as well. But before we say that he wasn't a part of us, let's not forget the prodigal son, who the Father welcomes back. I think what really needs to be examined, when someone leaves the faith, are their motives for leaving. Hebrews 10, speaks of apostates, but they are people who had experienced and tasted of God's grace and yet they preferred their sin, whereas the prodigal son really didn't know how good he had it till he left. We must look at the reasons in the heart and more often than not, only God knows those reasons.
Kailey, I appreciate your comments and insights, but I believe some clarification is needed here. This is going to be quite lengthy, so I appreciate your patience to read it all. I didn't say Lecrae was not of us, but if he left Christianity, then 1 John 2:19 stands true. But let's define "leaving." Leaving Christianity Biblically means you left the faith never to come back; this would mean he is an apostate. And apostate, Biblically, is someone faking Christianity though he or she was never really regenerated (born again) by the Spirit. This is spoken of alot in scripture, particularly by Jesus in Matthew 13:20, the second ground in that parable of the sower. Or the wheat and the tares in Matthew 13:24-30. This is much different than Christians that struggle (read Galatians 5:16-26 or Romans 7:15-25) who may not come to church for a time, stop having fellowship for a time, or even reading their Bibles for a time. This happens to all of us as believers, but it is God who keeps us. If Lecrae means this, then it is a common struggle. If he means that he will leave not to come back, then it would mark him as an apostate because we are sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14), being conformed into the image of Christ (Romans 8:29),and the good work God has begun in us He will perform it until Christ's return (Philippians 1:6). Christians are bought with a price and belong to Christ to be His workmanship (Ephesians 2:10). Nothing can pluck us out of the hand of Christ the Son or God the Father (John 10:27-29). These are Biblical truths of assurance; in this respect, no Christian could "leave" Christianity because it would mean we could "leave" Christ. If we could do so, then all these Bible verses (and many others) would be false because God saves us, justifies us, sanctifies us, then glorifies us. Salvation is all a work of God and if a Christian could "leave" it, it shows he was faking it the whole time, which is the reason 1 John 2:19 says, ""They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us; but they went out, that they might be manifest that they were not all of us.' Notice this verse makes clear that if they leave, it's because they are not of us because if they were, they would continue (struggles and all). Yet they left that it would be manifest (or revealed) that they were not of us. If Lecrae one day leaves the Christian faith and just walks with the world, never to come back, he falls into this category. Not unlike the raper Jahaziel, who revealed he didn't know the Lord. As for the Prodigal Son, it is truly about a sinner repenting. The Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11-32 is based on the conversation in Luke 15:1-2, where the Pharisees and scribes criticized Jesus for sitting with sinners. Jesus tells two parables, the second one about the Prodigal Son to give a lesson about why He sat with sinners; because God is a merciful provider who seeks the sinful creation that takes advantage of all that is given without being thankful to the provider. This is a picture provided by the Prodigal Son; He is actually a sinner, not yet saved. It wasn't until he repented, confessing that he sinned against heaven and the father that he came to faith (Luke 15:18-19) and when he came back to his father, his father accepted him back. This is a picture of salvation. But the older brother is a picture of a hypocrite, a fake that thinks he knows god. He represented the Pharisees and this was the harsh point to Jesus' audience. He sat with sinners because God wants to bring sinners to repentance, but the Pharisees were jealous of this (like the older son) which is why Jesus shames them with this fact at the end of the parable. I know we say God only knows the heart, and He does. Yet Christians are to discern actions and words because they flow from the heart (for example, Jesus says this Himself in Matthew 15:18-20). Therefore if Lecrae makes consistent public statements bad-mouthing the "organized" church or even believers and he seems to praise and love certain things of the world (which James 4:4, Romans 12:1-2, and 1 John 2:15-17 speak against), I can only discern by his consistent actions. Does that mean he's unsaved? Not necessarily, but it does mean we need to pray for him because he is in a high-profile situation (which, by the way he originally says is a ministry based on Romans 1:16), so believers that hang on his every word should examine it Biblically, not emotionally. I hope that kinda clarifies my position. I'm not against Lecrae, I actually pray that he understands that this is a spiritual battle (Ephesians 6:10-18) and there are many land mines out there. He needs to be careful. Thanks for reading.
I definitely see what you're saying. I think I was unclear on what was meant by the word 'leaving'. Thanks for clarifying! I agree with you on all of these points. Although, I do believe that the principle of the Prodigal son parable can be applied to believers as well. As it says in Hosea 14:4, "I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, for My anger has turned away from him." I think it can be a case by case basis, based on those who are truly children of God and those who are not. But the word is definitely clear in that if we've experienced God's goodness and continue in our sin, there no longer remains a sacrifice for us. Again, I think we're on the same page, but some of these things can be difficult to articulate through TH-cam comments. Haha. Anyways, thanks for the thoughtfully-worded response and have a nice day!
Sending love LeCrae! Keep asking God to surround you with His true people and to surround you with His presence! Then let His light keep shining through you brother! He is using you!
So much respect for you. My mom had chronic illness and the "church " at that time told her she was I'll because of "hidden sin" in her life that she needed to repent of. It wrecked her for awhile. But, praise God, her relationship with Jesus was strong. She did not go back to church. But she lived her faith. I believe spiritual abuse is real and needs to be talked about just as you have. I sincerely thank you and pray God continues to bless you.
I feel what he's saying, it's not easy to be on a such a big platform, especially being the first to do something, ur probably going to make mistakes, we're all humans, but who's the blame for all the confusion reach record created? Who's going to take responsibility for that? The issue of a rapper that's Christian or a Christian rapper, or a rapper just in general. We have so many rappers out there who hides their faith and ride the waves of the music industry. The church supported lecrae because we felt like he represented us, the mission of reaching the world and the culture with the gospel msg, but when believers started to see the shift reach and lecrae was making they were like wait a minute, what is this guy doing? Collaborating with secular artists? Saying he's not a Christian rapper, he's just a rapper now? Changing the mission statement on their label site, agreeing with people who are saying that Christian rap is wack and corny, and not truly defending the church on certain issues in his interviews, encouraging his followers to listen to secular music by doing music with artists who are helping to polute our culture and youth with dirty music that encourages sin. These are some of the issues I've seen and heard. So far nobody from reach record have said that they feel like they were wrong in their approach even tho the church in general sees it. Other believers sees it. I'm not bashing them, I'm just saying that this is what I've seen. U can't get upset with the Christian faith or the church when you start doing things that doesn't line up with the gospel and expect People to just agree with such compromise, People are going to speak up and voice their opinions on the matter, I notice that some believers did not show Grace at all during their rebuke of lecrae and reach record which didn't help the situation at all.
I feel you lecrae..I’m on the same journey..just started producing music and working sharing the gospel through hip hop and rap and I’m getting flack by close family and friends it’s like bruh I only glorify Jesus Christ in everything I do ugh 😑 praying for you and please pray for me
I'd listen to your family. The music industry is evil and you will eventually be forced to choose between God or money....lacrae chose to compromise for fame and fortune. That's why he doesn't stand up for biblical truth...he sold out. He's a man pleaser. Anyone with eyes to see can see that....not the lukewarm tho...they believe you can have God and the world, but God says you have to forsake the world and a friend of the world is an enemy of God. lacrae wants to be liked and respected by the world....that's obvious
I'm glad that you didn't leave in the end brother. Sadly, I had felt similarly.. when I came back to the Lord from falling off the path and living a backslidden life.. I thought I would have a lot of encouragements and welcome backs from Christian people I know but was only really encouraged by 2 close friends. The rest either said nothing to me but observed my socials seemingly disapprovingly, or commented bittersweet about my previous lifestyle. But you know what I release them and leave them in God's hands. And whenever I hear someone come to the faith, or come back to the faith I try to welcome them with gladness and encourage them because the Bible tells me all of heaven rejoices when this happens. A shame I didn't get much of that myself but God is my source. God bless all ❤
Let's not act like we haven't experienced this at one point. We're not perfect and neither is he, at least he acknowledged it got back on track and admitted it, kept it real.
The Bible says let no man deceive you not even Hip Hop Artist Lecrae. Who used the Christian Church to build his platform.Now he is wanting validation from the world and not God. I use to love Lecrae's music and I started noticing a change..Music will never win the souls of men only the preaching of God's word..I pray that he would repent from from the direction he is going in leading the youth astray with this music deception. We all need to repent of our sins and the evil that we do not just Lecrae..Thanks be to God that he doesn't judge us like we deserved for the sins we have committed against Him. He is so merciful and gracious towards us wanting us too turn and repent of our sins. He is so long suffering.
Noble CreationTv you were talking about the correct thing you're right about what the Bible said do not be deceived by man also a lot of people are using Jesus as a franchise and that is very disrespectful in the midst of all this God is showing people true heart's if you go back in the Bible when Jesus had his 12 disciples one of them betrayed him for money so really and truly there's nothing new Under the Sun but at the end of the day all you can do it just pray for those who are disrespecting God and JesusChrist
Amen bro so true.. It's clever deception at it's best..He wants to receive his rewards from this world and that's not cool. I hope He repent from misleading the youth..
Fast Forward to 2020: Lecrae still blessing us with his gifts after tremendous persecution...he handled his pain so graciously. And he dropped Set Me Free today🔥🔥 Its a new season❤️
Matthew Richardson that's why I've kinda stopped associating my self with it for like the last 2 years. Still team GOD, still team Jesus. It's just the religious spirit behind a lot involved in Chh has become such a turn off for me.
Matthew Richardson Yup, I can't stand most CHRISTIANS. I've seen White Christians tear this man apart on social media. I've seen Black Christians tear this man apart on social media. If I was an artist, the LAST genre I'd wanna go into is Christian. They are some of the most judgemental, closed minded, racist group of people I've come by. Sad but it's the truth. Don't believe me? I can show proof of that. This is why noone takes the Christian community serious. I'm down with God...I'm NOT down with his so called followers.
I hear a lot about the injustices oand hypocrisy of believers but I never hear of how beautiful the church can be when operating in a healthy way. I've seen and witnessed so many people set free, delivered, restored and amazing fellowship and ministry. I've seen beautiful miracles signs and wonders prophecies and other things the Holy Spirit has done in congregations. Plus if it was always about the intimacy and secret place between us and Jesus then why am I always hearing the body of Christs behaviors as an attitude to hinder people faith in Christ? That's ridiculous. Ive heard many responses when witnessing that christians have been the cause of people rejecting the gospel but that's just an excuse. The church should never determine how one will respond to Christs sacrifice and invitation for reconciliation to all...
Because y’all are all hypocrites. Y’all despise those who don’t share the same beliefs as you. You don’t love people like y’all claim to do. Your love is not genuine. You Christians are the fakest people around.
Maybe because people haven't seen the beautiful parts. But he's one to talk, he can listen and admire Tupac and ignore all his evil or the evils with the other secular rappers around him yet with the church it makes him doubt being a Christian it's so stupid. Christ, a perfect man, walked among us in compassion and sympathizes with our weaknesses and we as imperfect people should be able to do the same. Hypocrisy is literally in every society, he's just looking for excuses.
@@imrickjamesbitch6574 first of all, what are you talking about? How many real Christians do you know? Where are you getting your ideas of what is love and what is hate? You obviously know nothing.
And the fact that someone like you obviously listens to Lecrae shows a real problem with his music when you are obviously a hater of Christ and Christians.
A. Smith I been around Christians my whole life. You guys aren’t any different from the world you try so desperately to separate yourselves from. You’re hypocritical. Y’all don’t even follow that book like y’all say to do. Y’all cherry pick bible verses you want to live and say fuck the rest. I bet I know more about your bible than you will ever know.
Long Suffering is a fruit of the Spirit.... meaning it proves u R on the right track! Keep going Lecrae...persecution is a mark of righteousness....Keep the Love and be encouraged.
Why is he quoting Gandhi and not Jesus. Christians are sinners saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. We fight the flesh everyday. Trust God your faith isn't in the people. . Love God Love people
It's because Ghandi was asked the question what it would take for him to be a Christian. He replied ( in short) that he didn't have a problem with Christ, but His followers. Ghandi was of course lying to himself, because Christ said He was the only way to God, and Ghandi clearly wanted another way. But it is telling when Christians bite and devour each other, it wrecks the best testimony God asks us to demonstrate: His love. Unfortunately, all Christians fail at this, myself included, and Lecrae feels deeply misunderstood by Christians. I still don't understand why he is doing a lot of what he is doing and I get frustrated with his newer approach, So I pray for him. He has the same Holy Spirit I do, but a lot more pressure. He also has an inside perspective that I can't see.
I understand exactly what he means. I walked out of the blessings and will of God. Because of how someone in the church treated me. It bothers me so much that we have to deal with drama and negativity in the church. But the devil is in the pews too so notsurprised. I had to remember too look up and not around me. Because people say what they want to say and do what they want to do. But God has the final say
….no sir, SINFUL human beings are in the pews, just like you….just like me….(Romans 3:10-12…..Romans 3:23)…the Bible talks about how to handle a brother who offends you. 1)take it to them 2)take it to church leadership 3)if he doesn’t repent then treat him like an unbeliever. And also forgive them 70 times 7.
I'm truly keeping this man lifted because he's too rappi for the church and too churchy for the world seriously you keep doing what God called you to do Lecrae don't let no one put you in a box because at the end of the day I feel like he's taking his gift and he's using it for the glory of God and I know people have mixed emotions because even on some of his songs he sings with worldly rappers but at the end of the day we don't know what goes on in that studio he could be spreading the gospel....
GOLD! Even so, I think that CHH fans are INDEED taxing on artists to have a standard of living that isn't...where they're at. I'm not saying that Lecrae was 'perfect/ideal/etc' but, the fans, to a greater degree, weren't helping to understand nor be encouraging to this guy's walk. They judged him at every turn and didn't really ask him where he was going. Its like everything Christians are supposed to be told everything and...I suppose we should in private in that like Paul did with the other Apostles like Galatians. But also in that same book, Paul went straight for the ministry and DIDN'T 'check-in' with anybody. He just did the ministry. so yeah. 'Don't let your right hand what your left hand doing.'-Jesus. But, yeah. I'd just like for people to just ATTEST that he's doing okay. That's all I want. To know that we know; or, that you know that things are happening alright. [Edit] I am glad that Lecrae's doing his thing. At the end of the day, Christianity; whether popular or not, will keep growing by God's will of Decree and although Lecrae's famous and whatever aims we're hoping that he will reach; and not reach in our own minds, Christ will build His church. So, instead of wondering if he would've should've done this or that, we've got our own walk. Let other people nearby disciple him; because they're able to. Can't make much happen w/o love or knowledge in a loving way.
People confuse Christianity with religion. I hear Lecrae's heart. Making a decision to turn to Christ as the source instead of yourself is a pretty big decision. It says that you are no longer your own god and you can't navigate life without the Creator of Life, and Jesus is now responsible for that role. With trusting Christ will come criticisms because Jesus too was met with criticisms by the same type of religious folks whom Lecrae is criticized by. I understand completely. I don't think that there is anything wrong with wanting to separate from the religious folk. Afterall, it's pastors, preachers, evangelist, apostles and teachers who were called to the body of Christ, not the ministry of helps. Keep up the great work for the kingdom, Lecrae!
I find it ironic how people in the comments are saying that people trash on lecrae for going away from Christianity but most of the trashing actually happens to those who are telling lecrae what he's doing is wrong... smh
I think I see what LaCrae is doing a little differently. The people of Jesus day including the Pharisees passed judgment on him because who accompanied him and who he decided to have lunch with in addition to those he healed and day of the week he did it. I believe Jesus was trying to get us to understand that relationships are more important than Religiousness (not to be confused with righteousness). In LaCrae's defense, he is touching and influencing a people and a population that not many can have the opportunity to reach. God's heart is that not one will perish, so it is our responsibility to use our gifts and talents to meet them where they are. I feel LeCrae is seasoned enough to impact and influence them to change by thinking outside the box and by breaking the traditional cycle of religion or religiousness vs meaningful relationships building with all men regardless of our biases and preconceived notions. I applaud you LeCrae and Mali Music as well for going mainstream and maintaining your righteousness, reaching the unreachable and having to be hated by you own fellow Christians to save souls and break out of the cycle and system of old. We have to upgrade our methods of influence to make real impactful change.
I feel where he's coming from. He doing what God ed him to do and "religious" people attacking him. Even Jesus left the "religious" people and hung out with the people that really needed and wanted him. I'm so proud of the work that Lacrae is doing!
Sometimes fame and the money can cloud your faith, in your walk with Jesus. I think we all go through periods where we question God and some of us have walked away from Him. But something (Holy spirit) Is always there to guide you back to Christ.
Leacre I have to say brother that you have such a big heart and christ knows your heart more then the world dose but as long as you stay with your music and have Jesus in it and there is no way of stopping you remember when you first started you inspire a lot of ppl to turn to Chris and I'm one of the inspiration and pray for you was the reason why I turn to Chris I just hope that you don't lose your faith
I would like to state the comments I am about to add are not hater comments or anything of the sort just a different perspective . Maybe some of the reason he felt disenfranchised by the church is because he did that to himself to begin with. (Seriously not hating on the brother). He has not only not defended the church during interviews but seems not to be able to take rebuke or exhortation from the church which is not biblical. He stated no one could understand the direction he was going but he should acknowledge that alot of the saints were having a problem with that direction and he has become a huge stumbling block for many. And once again he makes the church look badin public and even blames them for this trial he has passed through with no self examination or accountability. Again I would like to state I am not hating on the brother and I pray he doesn't walk away from the faith but he's made alot of mistakes that he doesn't want to seem to own up for. Thanks as always wade-o for awesome videos and keeping us up to date with CHH.
So well said. Totally understand where youre coming from. And have even thought similar thoughts. Not here to demonize him or his walk at all. But its as you said, he has people watching. Especially his fans and people in the church. And not all of the church hates him. Just trying to understand whats going on.
My bad, I should of been more clear. Topics like this are hard to talk about via chat room cause you gotta be real specific. Just like Lecrae, when I said "church" i didn't mean the church as a whole. I don't know him personally but I am very sure he didn't mean 100% of the church. The point I was trying to make is when you speak on the church publically, those that are not of the church are going to take it as we mean "whole church". The world is always looking for a reason to point the finger and criticize, they don't need any extra help from us, especially in the public eye. To quote Shai Linne on "Cosmic Powers", "Here's an important principal/You become more vulnerable the more your visible/I mean c'mon, if Peter and David can fall/Shouldn't that be a wake up call for us all?/. (And no I did not quote Shai Linne because of his recent public remarks towards Lecrae, the lines were just fitting).
Those are fair points. People do look to discredit the church at every turn. And I'll be honest....i chuckled when you quoted shai. Thanks for the clarification.
Wade-O, no one knows his heart there, but I don't think he hates the whole church. The problem is, he speaks against the church in general terms in ways that don't edify others. He certainly has a life full of problems many don't understand, but at the same time, he has a platform others don't and much responsibility comes with it. I pray for him sincerely, but sometimes (and this is only based on his public comments) it doesn't appear that Lecrae examines his own words, motives, and walk when the criticism does come. Not everything brethren say to him is "hating," it's actually loving based on some things he says and does that bring James 4:4, 1 John 2:15-17, and 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 to mind. We can only go by what we see and hear. We certainly could be wrong in that respect, but over the past few years he has been publicly consistent about saying and doing things that make a believer look at scripture, then examine Lecrae's actions and statements, and then come away scratching our heads wondering what's up.
Tellme what unscriptural thing hehas said or done? God bless Lecrae, had times in my life I was exhorted through his music, keep your eyes on Christ, follow Him, dont worry about religous people
Instead of judging him how about we pray for him and leave it in gods hands. Only God sees his true plan and that is Lecraes own walk with Christ. Not ours. A Christian prays for their brothers and does not judge them. Have faith God will fix his path when he goes astray.
God never leaves you or forsaken you so the holy spirit still dwells in him no matter how his life looks like. I thought about what Christians were criticizing about and i put myself in lecrae shoes and all i can say is that hes blessed
Wow he hit the spot I needed to hear this I was church hurt real bad but what I realized on the journey I took my eye off of Christ and put it on people I can't take it out on my father but I found myself in an awkward place not even going to church that's not cool so keep me lifted...
I don't think he should really care what random people on the internet are saying he should know that comes with the territory, as far as receiving criticism from Christian artists, I haven't heard anyone criticize him in an ungodly manner and I think they have some valid points. The tough thing with the Lecrae situation is that we have seen him move away from Christ and the church musically. As a Christian I loved Lecraes music, but there have been some things he's done that I don't get but for me the main issue I've had is that it seems like he's trying to steer away from Christ musically.
Nice phrasing of the question, bro! Had to look up the full interview. Good stuff. I can't wait to see people take his "I want to see how broad I can go" line out of context. LOL
This is exactly why I returned to christ. This time around it's about building a solid relationship with God! I'm going through my journal now. Studying the bible has been revealing. Enlightening.
Thank you for not giving up. I feel your pain and I respect your honesty. A lot of ppl go through this. We have to believe in the creator and not in the creation. To much is given, much is required. The hard times are God’s pruning season for us. Doesn’t make it easier, but just hold on. When ur called to something much greater than man can fathom, just remember God ways are not ours ways, His thoughts are not our thoughts, and He is to wise to make a mistake. We are fearfully, perfectly, purposely made! Much ❤️
I suppose I appreciate Lecrae' s honesty. However, sometimes he tries too hard to appear mainstream and different; with his words he inadvertently marginalizes the Christian community to appease to the world. It's actually quite appalling because the world is watching this and it continues to give the world continuous ammo to attack said community. The church should be corrected...we have alot of work to do. But to be appear to be this "anti-religious" crusader before the world is embarrasing.
I respect his honesty, the problem is that he is in the spotlight so of course you're going to see flaws but what about us as believers who do things behind close doors, sometimes you just have those weak moments but thank God that He is faithful even when we are faithless for He cannot deny Himself, let's keep our brother in Christ lifted up
Alot of Christians would say he did it to himself but the truth is its because all the self righteous Christians with a religious spirit ganging up on him and calling it righteous judgement which is a flat out lie Straight From Hell when you get that all the time it makes you want to quit believe me I could not handle it I will lash out in my flesh too much and yes he could have made the church look a little better but guess what the church doesn't do themselves full of hypocrites backstabbing gossips and some of chh is corny but on the other hand not all of the church is like that you did need to have a balance and interviews I understand Lecrae
Dezperado7'z Yes I can amit that I have acted out in my flesh especially at work because I'm a human being I'm real about it that's why I need Jesus everyday just like you and just like Lecrae I'm not perfect and I'll never will be a real believer in Jesus admits to Falling everyday being transparent a fake Christian will point at everybody else's problems and act like they don't sin everyday yes we are to go to God to help us but we will still fall at times a part of life yes I don't care about him doing music with other artists I like all kinds of music Christian or non-Christian just like I Like watching non-Christian movies everybody's got their conviction as long as we don't force it on each other believe me I will be the first to admit I had and have problems sometimes I feel like the worst at times mostly my attitudes but God Love us through them only the devil would say you are no good because look what you just said or did yes we are to try to do better
Oowee.. I regret to say I've had the same experience with a lot of churches. I wanted to join the choir in at least three churches without hearing me sing or anything they all denied me which was something I've never experienced before
I jus wanna pray 4 Crae....Life is hard and the path is narrow!!! I used to be critical my self of folks!! But now for me i chose to try and show Jesus love more!! Theres a time 4 love...a time 4 hate...!!! Hate the sin love the person even if they dont except it!!! Its easy to love someone who loves you back!! Bless all yall atleast we are discussing Jesus instead of promoting the world❤
Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly. (James 3:1) It comes with the territory brothers and sisters. The reason Lecrae gets much scrutiny and gets judged strictly is because of the platform he stands on. There is a difference between condemning someone and judging someone righteously. As Christians we are able to "judge righteously" according to God's word which is different from condemning someone. I believe many who follow Lecrae were not necessarily condemning him but they were "judging" his actions based on the teaching platform he took up for years. Yes he is not a pastor but his music taught the masses about Christ so it should not come as a surprise that he gets judged strictly when people don't understand his moves. We/He should understand that those who follow him are at different levels, some are new to the faith,some mature,some returning to the faith,some still immature in the faith etc, so he/we can't put the blame on God's people. Jesus was scrutinised left,right and centre and they even said he had demon in him. But he said the servant can not be greater than the master. So what Lecrae went through is nothing new under the sun. Leaders everywhere will always be judged more strictly so my brother Lecrae should get his strength from the source of life and not look up to what people say. We should pray for our leaders in the faith and our leaders do the same for those who follow them because after all is said and done "the eye can not say to the ear i don't need you". We are of one body. Grace and Peace.
in a Christian and I believe what you did I spirit led. Some times we Christians are a meas but he never changes. hold on care it will all be worth it in the end.❤
you know I had a dream I saw Lecrae sniffing drugs like he just tired of everything. He looks so fatigued now and restless. we all going thru it bro just keep fighting and don't let go hanging on by a tread I know..
I love it when people think they're better than everyone else I understand what it's like to understand your faith is more mature than many or some others, but if you're walking so close with God how could you be so blind to helping his people
There are many people who claim to be Christians yet, are very opinionated about Lecrae but, I just want to say one thing. I'm a sinful man who walks a dark path but, I am trying hard to be closer with God because I truly believe at one time in my life when I was younger, God helped me when I called upon him and this is when I was on the streets, surrounded by people with evil and malicious intentions. The only thing that kept me clinging on to my faith was CHH and it still does. Even though Lecrae may not be 100% Christian in his music, I feel like he still helps us lost ones in thinking and wanting to be closer with God. To anyone out there reading this, please pray for me.
I'm losing faith, not from the people but the promises of God just don't provide. I am having to work hard to survive because I'm relying on God to provide.
Life is a game of convincing/agreement. Every one of you that read that first sentence will have your own interpretation of it. For all of you that think Lecrae’s music is heretical have one perspective. Those that think it’s God inspired or filled have another perspective. This goes the same with scripture. Everyone has their own interpretation of it. Now the real question is to what extent are we leaning towards our own understanding, the understanding of other people, and God. It’s impossible to please everybody. The Bible tells us to be in a constant renewal of our minds. At the end of the day everyone’s following something or someone because of their/its power to convince. Whether it be through faith, power, experience, lies... the list goes on. We follow convictions. Even this message itself is meant to convince this reality. It’s a paradoxical trap, and the funny thing is that the only way out of it is to choose a conviction and just believe that it is right. Some of you will understand this comment and some of you will not and others will be oblivious to it. All we know is that God “is”
Man, you don't even know, this is my thoughts, my heart coming out of Lecrae's mouth. That is EXACTLY how I been feeling especially since last fall with the election and everything. Man.
We as a body of Christ needs to be strong as an individual and a whole. The devil will try his absolute best to get you to sin and as far away from Christ that he can. Just keep ya head up and continue to rock with Christ no matter what. I know sumtimes we as Christians don’t meet eye to eye but Christ wants us to work it out with other Christians that are lost or don’t fully understand the messages that person might be going thru sumthing never know so don’t give up on em just pray that God softens they hearts. Much luv to you all.
I noticed this as it was happening, its a shame the christians forget that Gods purpose for him is to reach people that others cant reach. I have no rap cred, no street cred, I couldnt relate to the people that he can relate to. He was just trying to be a light, as God has asked and the people that are supposed to lift him up and encourage were the ones tearing him down. So sad that we think Christian artist are only for "us". We are like greedy kids in the sand box. Lecrae, Im glad you follow God and not man! Keep it up.
I can definitely relate... That's why it's so important to have your OWN relationship with God. Otherwise, the "church folk" will run you away from Christianity...
Omg Yall are so... Lecrae quotes Ghandi because Ghandi was asked how he felt about Christ. He said it's not Christ that's the problem but His followers. Thus, Ghandi was saying he would NEVER turn his people towards Christ for fear they'd be so corrupt as Christs followers. AKA, some of the Church isn't doing the best job to represent Christ so yes it is a turn off to Christianity. We cause people to blaspheme because of how we live.
Clearly Ghandi had a problem with Christ since Ghandi wasn't a christian, but a hindu. He lived in unbelief. Though he admired the ways of Christ. He did not submit to him as Lord over All. And there lies the problem
I feel Lecrae because I though not a celebrity have felt the same way about the church and biblically sound Christians I have known. We forget about that verse in Galatians 6 where Paul talks about one being caught in transgression that a spiritaully mature person should restore them in a spirit of gentleness but that comes with a warning for that person that they may not be tempted so keep watch. I have even disagreed with some of Crae's positions, it's not all black and white like everyone thinks. The struggle is really real and it is God who keeps us praise his name.
We as individuals are apart of the body. The body is the church. Christ is the head. What do you mean you’re done with relationships. It’s easy to do things on your own. If the church were not organized biblically then we can do whatever we want. Keep it real bro. Light is light. Dark is dark. Don’t try to make your dark to gray to light bro. Special calling, right.
what God gives he can take away. it was your music that turned me back to God.God is love my friend God is the truth the way and the light the Omega the beginning and the end. Please do not leave God.. He died for you. He lived you so much he died for you. If the world hates you. The world first hated me. This devil that grats you thing's.. there only things you can't take with when you pass. please stay humbel love the Lord your God. I would rather stand with God then to stand with the world and be judged by God. I proud of what you have done with your life I'm happy for you. Never forget who got you there GOD JESUS THE HOLY SPIRIT. never forget that Satan is a deciver he doesn't care for you or your family. never forget you where a preacher of the word of God that is your calling.. I do not want to see you in the Deeper Darker!!! I want you to live forever. If they where truly God's people they would not have done anything bad to you. That's how the devil works I know I use to have money a car a home untill I was drained dry.. All my so called friends left..... Use your talent for God and God alone. It will not be easy it won't get your worldy things but think of your Mason on a Gold road in Heaven. I beg you come to God!!!!!! Come back to love and live for ever don't let the devil win.
I've thought of leaving the faith many times. Maybe I have subconsciously left mentally time to time. I've left religion because of the emotional and sexual abuse I encountered but I've clinged to Christ and his teachings and living out my faith on my own day by day.
IMO this a whack move by Crae. The most beautiful aspect of this walk with Christ is that He gives us the undeserved privilege to choose. That means that what you make of things, that's on you. If you wanna leave the faith, that's an internal struggle - not external.
Sho Nuff thank you for the response. Just wanna preface my response with the fact that it’s been 2 years since this comment & I’m still a huge Lecrae fan. Also that as he has shown that his perspective has grown since this vid, so has mine. My view of hell is that it it’s a place that is separation from God & those who inhabit it are ones who have chosen that separation from God is better than being with him. I don’t think God would just “send” us there. We are His children & I believe it’s His will is that all of us be saved (spend eternity with Him.) That is exactly the reason why He sent His Son, Jesus. I still stand on the point that God gives us the opportunity to choose. And that’s a beautiful thing. While Romans 10:9 tells us what we need to do in order to be saved, Romans 12:1-2 tells us that we have to remind our mind DAILY. The way I see it, everyday (& even throughout the day) we need to refresh our mindsets all the time so that we can make the decision to live for Him in all things. Basically, to do all things for His glory. (Colossians 3:17) Have I figured this out & do this every single day? Absolutely not. I mess up all the time. But I keep choosing God because He chose me. He chose you. He chose all of us when He died/rose for us :) god bless you brother
But who's wrong here? Lecrae, or the countless people watching him drift into heresy? Writing people off as bad and judgemental doesn't help when you ignore why thry respond the way they do.
Jesus gave us a Great Commandment Love one another, these are the Fruits of the spirits man.. LOOSE YOUR PRIDE MAN HUMBLE YOUR SELF BEFORE GOD IN PRAYER REPENT AND BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST MAN.. AND DONT GET UP UNTIL GOD POURS OUT SOMETHING OF HIM IN YOU SO THAT WAY HE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER... You know people BY There FRUITS. Examine your self brotha
He's getting into black liberation theology! Wasn't he the one help Kendrick find God? Now Kendrick is a black Hebrew! Sounds like lecrae isn't helping but adding fuel to the fire of racial division! I beg all of Gods people to look at John McArthurs take on racism because he lays out the biblical explanation to heal and restore hearts not the worldly way! Siding with the liberal Godless left and black hate groups isn't going to change our nation! The gospel does that
The shirt that he's wearing is Marvel Comic's character, The Black Panther, which also is a upcoming film set for a 2018 release. Seriously, lets not read anymore into it.
Christians are sinners saved by grace right? So it's not like we don't sin and make mistakes - we just keep running back to the savior. I would say that the unrealistic expectations come from non-believers and that the real angst that people have toward Christians comes from our unwillingness to passively go along with sin - in our lives or in others.....people can say they love Christ, just not Christians, but they are really using Christians as scapegoats for why they aren't submitting to God. I'm really disappointed in Lecrae for not defending Christ followers and those who put him in this position...Especially when HE was encouraging to GO HARD for the Lord for all those years (after the music stops).....I got a feeling that old 'Crae would have a real problem with this Lecrae.....His comments make sense in the sense that falling away from God's people is often the first step in falling away from God....I'm also astounded by the fact that if you say something that's not affirming about him, it makes you fake or a hater. I love this dude, his music and his ministry. I think those of us who are most critical are probably the ones that are most concerned about him.
I've learned to follow Christ and not "Christians"
💯POINTS to this comment! Very powerful and vital!
@Daris Meachem people who follow Christ are Christians but all Christians are not Christ followers. There are so many christian that are church goers.
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@@sollyprogrammer3750 I stopped going to church for many reason's. Some personal, some for annoyances with the Christians there. I've been to many churches, and it always comes down to the same reasons. But the main reason I bounce on all churches is based on what the pastor is preaching. The always find a way to loop back to the first day I went there and preach that, as if the bible were a small book.
I'm just glad to know it's not God's people who define my faith but the truth of the Gospel I've experienced and believe in. People will mismanage the truth but the truth will always remain truth.
Amen
I agree the brother needs Love, Prayer & Encouragement. And even continuous Discipleship from the Elders of the Church.
He obviously isn't looking for discipline or reproach just praise
The Bible says do not forsake the assembly of yourself together. We need the fellowship whether it is reading the Bible and worshipping at church or in your own home with other believers
Look at the world we live in. Look at our president and his supporters and the message, ugliness and violence they defend and encourage while calling themselves Christians. I have questioned this just like he did? Haven't you?
@@divasbraidz he's definitely not looking for praise. Stop it.
Real talk! I love Jesus but some of the people who claim to follow him...it's a struggle.
Someone probably feels the same about you.
It isn't a struggle.
Really
They are tools of Jesus to make us strongest .
When I was hurt by Christian, I didn't leave God. I stumble in some areas but I got back up. What I learn that I was putting trust in the wrong person. But I try saying some of still stuff to Christ myself. And I was told in so many words. I can't blame others for folks. I have my own relationship with him.
I really think you just followed the money bro!
The people. Not the Christ is a turn off 😏 most of us have felt this way when trying to walk our unique calling... callings that may not look neat and clean.
Honest question, how could you be turned off by the people, when you know they're human? When you knew from the beginning that it was about Christ?
1 Peter 4:11 if someone speaks, let him speak God’s words; if someone serves, let him do so out of strength that God supplies; so that in everything God may be glorified through Yeshua the Messiah - to him be glory and power forever and ever. Amen.
12 Dear friends, don’t regard as strange the fiery ordeal occurring among you to test you, as if something extraordinary were happening to you. 13 Rather, to the extent that you share the fellowship of the Messiah’s sufferings, rejoice; so that you will rejoice even more when his Sh’khinah is revealed.
The Broham Nation Because theologically the church is supposed to be representative of the body of Christ on earth. Lecrae's theology of the church may have (obviously) had to go through some necessary reforming because of the life experiences he was having. It sounds like his testimony of 'almost leaving Christianity' expresses more of an active desire to live a religionless life, rather than leaving the person of Christ himself. When those who you thought were your brothers and sisters in Christ condemn you for following his call to go fully into the world, that's going to cause you to doubt and have to reevaluate your faith.
I have been turned off by people who identify as Christian. I have met horrible hypocrites who hate and abuse in the name of Jesus. These people made me want nothing to do with Christianity. It wasn't until I actually read the bible and saw that Jesus was nothing like these people.
Fuck off Ruslan yo ass out here dropping diss tracks tryna act like your a Christian and shit. Miss me with that. Your whole label just breeds hypocrisy look at what happened to John
Ruslan KD I feel you
leadership is often a very lonely trek, at very least during seasons in many of our walks. This is especially true when trailblazing in very important and needed areas of darkness, in our progressively darkening world. But to you my brother Lecrae, and to any other leader, *Consider Him who endured such hostility from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.* Hebrews 12:3 Pray for your leaders, this is not easy!
You seem so steeped in the word. So why is it, you're not able to discern that Lecrae's desire is not to be your brother. He wants to partner with the world.
Nicole after the album came out, I wonder do you feel differently?
bboystance07 read the Bible and perhaps God will grant you discernment to know who lecrae truly belongs to.
Rock Collins if you can point me to specific verses or chapters, I would appreciate it. If I find anything of note, ill,let you,know.
Brother Simon absolutely!!!!
Love covers a multitude of sin. A brother offended is harder than a city to be won. The Bible also teaches us to not be easily offended. The word tells us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Looking through these comments we could definitely upgrade our love packages for self and others. He who is without sin...you all know the rest. Can we at least pray for one another we already pray for our enemies, right.
Paul also notes that, while we can't judge/assess the unbelieving world by Biblical standards, we are to judge/assess one another. Obviously, there's a difference between prideful condemnation and genuinely concerned rebuke. I think it fair to highlight his role as a leader to many, many of whom don't have enough roots in their faith, yet, to discern God's distinct leading for them vs. His distinct leading of others; or concern themselves with considering how the righteousness of the Word in front of them surpasses that of any pastor, loved one, artist and even their own conscience. I also think it fair to underscore how the Church is continuously put on trial to an unbelieving world by its believers. I think it's helpful to be honest and not put on a smiley face, but what's the boundary? Where's the hope? I'm sure I'm guilty of responding to my own disdain re: the Church, along with many others. But if Jesus loves his Bride, and he were standing right in front of us, how would we talk about her then? Anywho, I feel like as long as Lecrae truly feels led in the direction he's going, I personally don't have a gripe (unless it's straight out irreverent). But it would be nice to see him, as a leader, also honestly address any stumbling blocks that his walk may be placing in the way of weaker brothers and sisters. I wonder if Jesus not only sent his own disciples away to shield the woman at the well, but also to shield them from a mission field that *they* were not ready to handle. I think this is a good example, not just of how vulnerable we can be at different points in our life, but of the great responsibility that comes with with a role that we may desire, have prayed for or have just been saddled with as we seek to be obedient to the Lord. Any form of leadership (great or small) isn't meant to be a cakewalk, or about serving ourselves, our art, our talent, our dreams; like the artists who contributed to the temple in the old testament, our calling is meant to be a tool that reflects the holiness/set-apartness of God to others. All that said, I definitely agree on the hope that we would all join in prayer for Lecrae. He's facing a lot. May God continue to help and lead--with a strong hand--our brother, his fam and all of whom have a voice in their lives (1 Cor 5:12-13; 1 Cor 6:1-6; Jn 7:21-24; Rom 14)
I agree with what you just said. The HOLY SPIRIT in me will not argue with the HOLY SPIRIT in you. AMEN
TeeJay Ross best comment and amen!that's why my generation is more and more lost: the modern Christianity living too much around the old Testament and focus on apparence of "perfection"
Amen! In JESUS' name!
TeeJay Ross QUIT BEING WHAT YA NOT. PERFECT.
Lecrae is one of the most transparent dudes out there, I really don't understand why y'all keep questioning his agendas when he makes it so clear. He said that he's always had a heart to reach lost souls, but he changed his approach because he realized that you can't approach non-believers with heavy doctrine. He's doing his best to disciple people and help needy people, just because he's not yapping about it all the time doesn't mean he's not doing it. The bible also specifically tells us not to brag about good deeds we've done, so when y'all ask him to talk about if he witnessed to certain celebrities or not, y'all are really asking him to sin. Being loving and offering a hand to help is a way to witness, too.
Emmanuel McAllister Speak facts, bro, you got the nail on the head. They don't hear you, though.
But that doesnt also guarantee that the people he is wanting to "disciple" would get sound doctrine without having to be covered by their worldly standards. Lecrae must be having that kind of approach - it isnt wrong either, but is it efficient? Arent we suppose to reach out people with the clearest words? Words that dont only come out to our mouths but words that are spoken through our actions? Arent the people also deserve to be taught or reached out by the very truth, the word of God, instead of compromising with their ways/standards which are clearly abonished by the statutes of the Lord? Lecrae must start reassessing his way of reaching out to lost souls, because he might be leading them to halfbaked "christians"
Yes, he has a good purpose, but hes doing it in a degenerative way.
Ummm, The Apostles and Jesus Himself gave *heavy doctrine* to unbelievers.
Emmanuel McAllister 👍🏼
Lecrae influence me to be more real, relevant and relatable in my raps. I still like to be Lyrical Theology, but since I believe Jesus called me to rap to the unsaved, I have to give it to them in a way that they understand the gospel without being over bible thumping.
I see a lot of comments saying he did it to himself. The man admitted his lack of faith was because of people not treating him right - rather than God not treating him right and he owned up to it. Anyone willing to admit they were wrong in their reactions to Crae? Sometimes we're so focused on being right that we end up acting outside of Christian morals. I was in a place like that, but I also remembered that it's Christ who I worship and not His followers. It's extremely sad and really quite interesting to see that he humbly admits his mess ups, yet no one wants to admit they may have treated him in a disrespectful manner. I'm not saying he's always right, however so often we are QUICK to point our fingers at another's flaws and yet, never quick to admit our own fault. Humility is to be practiced by all Christians, not just when we want, but when God asks it of us. Some may say God is asking you to go at him as you have, sure, okay, I won't argue back and forth on that, I just see this through a much different lens than many I guess.
eloquently spoken; great perspective. 10/10 would read again :) lol
Bless Up Amen alot of Christians are in a fantasy world thanking they don't sin everyday sin is something simple is fear or a bad attitude
And yet, he still did songs with secular artists. "C'mon guys, we're cool, we're real hip-hop too! Metro Boomin trusts ME, and we're not corny anymore!"
Why should I feel bad for someone that was claiming Christ and was not producing any fruits and was causing others to stumble. I keep him pray but he needs to put Christ back as his focus and stop trying to be like the world.
The Broham Nation what's wrong with that?
So much infighting. The father weeps when he looks down upon his children. When brother raises sword against brother. For they are too caught up in making war with one another. Forgetting about the one task given to them, to preach the gospel and make disciples. If only his children could do that one thing our world would be a very different place.
Matthew Richardson Its a distraction. Christians fighting each other is a distraction from hell. It's all vanity.
Sheesh We should pray for him mayne not easy being out there in the wild
Totally agree
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Keep the faith ,Jeremiah and many endure hardship but thank God Hes a keeper
The Wade-O Radio Video Channel did he just say Egypt?
iamgchildaproductofgrace no pop tarts
Great question
Indeed.
David Livick hey man....remember me
The K-crae show - I do
David Livick what don’t you watch is the question lol, 😂
The homie Livick!!!!!!!
Reading all these comments got me thinking about my own walk with God. I need to do a self examination, work out my own salvation. Lord help me see my own sin. I don't want to be so caught up in some one else's sins, flaws that I miss the mark myself.
One thing for sure, bigger level, bigger devil. Satan mad at Lecrea because his music is getting played at a public school football games, T.V shows. I wonder if my life was in a spotlight what would people say about my walk in Christ on their TH-cam channel.
Lanina Clay ❤️👏🏾 Thank You! I feel the exact same way.
Say Word Sis!
The problem is lecrae wants to be accepted by other people but he got to understand not everyone going to receive him. He even said it in one of his songs that the industry shut the door on him because the message he was trying to bring. At the end of the day lecrae can't fold just because he been rejected
He's spoken the truth, and thats where im at in my life right now. Life has been tough lately and im at a point where sometimes i see death as the solution even when i know its not. And the church i go to and the people i live with have contributed to me hating myself and being lost, I hope and pray that God touches my heart again so i can get back to where my relationship with him was.
Can sooo relate. Bless you. Your faith is built on the unshakeable rock Jesus Christ!
Thank you for keeping it real! I feel the exact same way sometimes.. about religion and your example of relationships too lol love your music Lecrae! I really appreciate the kind of music you create. It's plays a big part of my life and happiness. Thank you!
Is no one else concerned with this answer?
I am not. He is human and he is questioning the state of our country, of our world and wondering how he and those people (some that support TRUMP) can both call themselves Christians. It is ok to question and need to reboot.
it is subtle deception, he puts down Gods people and gives no redeeming quality, like if he is the only one "doing it right" by trying to fellowship with the world. no man is above rebuke, doesn't matter how famous u get
@@unknownunknown4029 The fuck does supporting Trump have to do with anything? Weird of you to try to make that point considering Trump has brought back God into the white house.
@J why you flustered??? Git the fuck outa here with your white rage. Go follow Michael W. Smith or the Gaither Brothers or something. Enjoy your white privileged life with them fellas. Fuck
@@FirstUsername God never leaves any house sir.lol.
I appreciate Lecrae's answer because of the honesty, but I hope he understands the "organized religion" he is complaining about isn't every church congregation and every Christian. He needs to be careful about brushing all believers that disagree with him with a broad brush. Also, quoting unsaved people's statements about Christians must be taken with a grain of salt since they don't spiritually discern the things of God (1 Corinthians 2:14). In addition, he mentioned that they didn't understand the direction he was going in. Well, some may not understand in a self-righteous way, but there are many that didn't understand based on the Word of God. Sometimes we have to examine ourselves in the midst of criticizing other believers. They could certainly be wrong and even judgmental (in the wrong way), but sometimes we can put ourselves in a victim mode as if all of our decisions are right or righteous. But, no offense, if Lecrae "left" Christianity, the Bible declares he wasn't among us according to 1 John 2:19. I'm glad his trip overseas helped his perspective, but it better be his love for Christ based on a regenerated heart that makes him run the race because if we want to leave every time a believer (or non-believer) criticizes us, we don't understand the depths of sin and the grace of God.
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Eric Smith That's what I was thinking as well. But before we say that he wasn't a part of us, let's not forget the prodigal son, who the Father welcomes back. I think what really needs to be examined, when someone leaves the faith, are their motives for leaving. Hebrews 10, speaks of apostates, but they are people who had experienced and tasted of God's grace and yet they preferred their sin, whereas the prodigal son really didn't know how good he had it till he left. We must look at the reasons in the heart and more often than not, only God knows those reasons.
Kailey, I appreciate your comments and insights, but I believe some clarification is needed here. This is going to be quite lengthy, so I appreciate your patience to read it all. I didn't say Lecrae was not of us, but if he left Christianity, then 1 John 2:19 stands true. But let's define "leaving." Leaving Christianity Biblically means you left the faith never to come back; this would mean he is an apostate. And apostate, Biblically, is someone faking Christianity though he or she was never really regenerated (born again) by the Spirit. This is spoken of alot in scripture, particularly by Jesus in Matthew 13:20, the second ground in that parable of the sower. Or the wheat and the tares in Matthew 13:24-30. This is much different than Christians that struggle (read Galatians 5:16-26 or Romans 7:15-25) who may not come to church for a time, stop having fellowship for a time, or even reading their Bibles for a time. This happens to all of us as believers, but it is God who keeps us. If Lecrae means this, then it is a common struggle. If he means that he will leave not to come back, then it would mark him as an apostate because we are sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13-14), being conformed into the image of Christ (Romans 8:29),and the good work God has begun in us He will perform it until Christ's return (Philippians 1:6). Christians are bought with a price and belong to Christ to be His workmanship (Ephesians 2:10). Nothing can pluck us out of the hand of Christ the Son or God the Father (John 10:27-29). These are Biblical truths of assurance; in this respect, no Christian could "leave" Christianity because it would mean we could "leave" Christ. If we could do so, then all these Bible verses (and many others) would be false because God saves us, justifies us, sanctifies us, then glorifies us. Salvation is all a work of God and if a Christian could "leave" it, it shows he was faking it the whole time, which is the reason 1 John 2:19 says, ""They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us; but they went out, that they might be manifest that they were not all of us.' Notice this verse makes clear that if they leave, it's because they are not of us because if they were, they would continue (struggles and all). Yet they left that it would be manifest (or revealed) that they were not of us. If Lecrae one day leaves the Christian faith and just walks with the world, never to come back, he falls into this category. Not unlike the raper Jahaziel, who revealed he didn't know the Lord.
As for the Prodigal Son, it is truly about a sinner repenting. The Prodigal Son in Luke 15:11-32 is based on the conversation in Luke 15:1-2, where the Pharisees and scribes criticized Jesus for sitting with sinners. Jesus tells two parables, the second one about the Prodigal Son to give a lesson about why He sat with sinners; because God is a merciful provider who seeks the sinful creation that takes advantage of all that is given without being thankful to the provider. This is a picture provided by the Prodigal Son; He is actually a sinner, not yet saved. It wasn't until he repented, confessing that he sinned against heaven and the father that he came to faith (Luke 15:18-19) and when he came back to his father, his father accepted him back. This is a picture of salvation. But the older brother is a picture of a hypocrite, a fake that thinks he knows god. He represented the Pharisees and this was the harsh point to Jesus' audience. He sat with sinners because God wants to bring sinners to repentance, but the Pharisees were jealous of this (like the older son) which is why Jesus shames them with this fact at the end of the parable.
I know we say God only knows the heart, and He does. Yet Christians are to discern actions and words because they flow from the heart (for example, Jesus says this Himself in Matthew 15:18-20). Therefore if Lecrae makes consistent public statements bad-mouthing the "organized" church or even believers and he seems to praise and love certain things of the world (which James 4:4, Romans 12:1-2, and 1 John 2:15-17 speak against), I can only discern by his consistent actions. Does that mean he's unsaved? Not necessarily, but it does mean we need to pray for him because he is in a high-profile situation (which, by the way he originally says is a ministry based on Romans 1:16), so believers that hang on his every word should examine it Biblically, not emotionally. I hope that kinda clarifies my position. I'm not against Lecrae, I actually pray that he understands that this is a spiritual battle (Ephesians 6:10-18) and there are many land mines out there. He needs to be careful. Thanks for reading.
I definitely see what you're saying. I think I was unclear on what was meant by the word 'leaving'. Thanks for clarifying! I agree with you on all of these points. Although, I do believe that the principle of the Prodigal son parable can be applied to believers as well. As it says in Hosea 14:4, "I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely, for My anger has turned away from him." I think it can be a case by case basis, based on those who are truly children of God and those who are not.
But the word is definitely clear in that if we've experienced God's goodness and continue in our sin, there no longer remains a sacrifice for us.
Again, I think we're on the same page, but some of these things can be difficult to articulate through TH-cam comments. Haha. Anyways, thanks for the thoughtfully-worded response and have a nice day!
perfect analysis👍👍
Sending love LeCrae! Keep asking God to surround you with His true people and to surround you with His presence! Then let His light keep shining through you brother! He is using you!
So much respect for you. My mom had chronic illness and the "church " at that time told her she was I'll because of "hidden sin" in her life that she needed to repent of. It wrecked her for awhile. But, praise God, her relationship with Jesus was strong. She did not go back to church. But she lived her faith. I believe spiritual abuse is real and needs to be talked about just as you have. I sincerely thank you and pray God continues to bless you.
I feel what he's saying, it's not easy to be on a such a big platform, especially being the first to do something, ur probably going to make mistakes, we're all humans, but who's the blame for all the confusion reach record created? Who's going to take responsibility for that? The issue of a rapper that's Christian or a Christian rapper, or a rapper just in general. We have so many rappers out there who hides their faith and ride the waves of the music industry. The church supported lecrae because we felt like he represented us, the mission of reaching the world and the culture with the gospel msg, but when believers started to see the shift reach and lecrae was making they were like wait a minute, what is this guy doing? Collaborating with secular artists? Saying he's not a Christian rapper, he's just a rapper now? Changing the mission statement on their label site, agreeing with people who are saying that Christian rap is wack and corny, and not truly defending the church on certain issues in his interviews, encouraging his followers to listen to secular music by doing music with artists who are helping to polute our culture and youth with dirty music that encourages sin. These are some of the issues I've seen and heard. So far nobody from reach record have said that they feel like they were wrong in their approach even tho the church in general sees it. Other believers sees it. I'm not bashing them, I'm just saying that this is what I've seen. U can't get upset with the Christian faith or the church when you start doing things that doesn't line up with the gospel and expect People to just agree with such compromise, People are going to speak up and voice their opinions on the matter, I notice that some believers did not show Grace at all during their rebuke of lecrae and reach record which didn't help the situation at all.
Nat Chea, you need to check out this new video from Andy Mineo. Reach records done lost their minds: th-cam.com/video/hSpfNokJN1A/w-d-xo.html
It seems he was just In the gospel arena just to gain recognition
I feel you lecrae..I’m on the same journey..just started producing music and working sharing the gospel through hip hop and rap and I’m getting flack by close family and friends it’s like bruh I only glorify Jesus Christ in everything I do ugh 😑 praying for you and please pray for me
I'd listen to your family. The music industry is evil and you will eventually be forced to choose between God or money....lacrae chose to compromise for fame and fortune. That's why he doesn't stand up for biblical truth...he sold out. He's a man pleaser. Anyone with eyes to see can see that....not the lukewarm tho...they believe you can have God and the world, but God says you have to forsake the world and a friend of the world is an enemy of God. lacrae wants to be liked and respected by the world....that's obvious
Love his honesty, glad he's letting it out. We need more of that out here. Glad to hear about the healing trip to Israel also!
I'm glad that you didn't leave in the end brother. Sadly, I had felt similarly.. when I came back to the Lord from falling off the path and living a backslidden life.. I thought I would have a lot of encouragements and welcome backs from Christian people I know but was only really encouraged by 2 close friends. The rest either said nothing to me but observed my socials seemingly disapprovingly, or commented bittersweet about my previous lifestyle. But you know what I release them and leave them in God's hands. And whenever I hear someone come to the faith, or come back to the faith I try to welcome them with gladness and encourage them because the Bible tells me all of heaven rejoices when this happens. A shame I didn't get much of that myself but God is my source. God bless all ❤
The end has not been reached, we shall see.
Let's not act like we haven't experienced this at one point. We're not perfect and neither is he, at least he acknowledged it got back on track and admitted it, kept it real.
The Bible says let no man deceive you not even Hip Hop Artist Lecrae. Who used the Christian Church to build his platform.Now he is wanting validation from the world and not God. I use to love Lecrae's music and I started noticing a change..Music will never win the souls of men only the preaching of God's word..I pray that he would repent from from the direction he is going in leading the youth astray with this music deception. We all need to repent of our sins and the evil that we do not just Lecrae..Thanks be to God that he doesn't judge us like we deserved for the sins we have committed against Him. He is so merciful and gracious towards us wanting us too turn and repent of our sins. He is so long suffering.
Noble CreationTv AMEN
Thanks bro
Noble CreationTv you were talking about the correct thing you're right about what the Bible said do not be deceived by man also a lot of people are using Jesus as a franchise and that is very disrespectful in the midst of all this God is showing people true heart's if you go back in the Bible when Jesus had his 12 disciples one of them betrayed him for money so really and truly there's nothing new Under the Sun but at the end of the day all you can do it just pray for those who are disrespecting God and JesusChrist
Amen bro so true.. It's clever deception at it's best..He wants to receive his rewards from this world and that's not cool. I hope He repent from misleading the youth..
amen. all these Christian artists get a taste for fame and money and forget God and the Church.
Thank you for your transparency, God bless you
Fast Forward to 2020:
Lecrae still blessing us with his gifts after tremendous persecution...he handled his pain so graciously. And he dropped Set Me Free today🔥🔥 Its a new season❤️
If you all have a problem, go talk to Lecrae. Being keyboard theologians saying "I told you so" in the name of Jesus does nothing.
Whoooooo!! They not ready. 🔥 🔥 🔥
Have to admit I've found the CHH fan base quite toxic as of late. Too many keyboard warriors.
Matthew Richardson that's why I've kinda stopped associating my self with it for like the last 2 years.
Still team GOD, still team Jesus. It's just the religious spirit behind a lot involved in Chh has become such a turn off for me.
Facts my G
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Matthew Richardson Yup, I can't stand most CHRISTIANS. I've seen White Christians tear this man apart on social media. I've seen Black Christians tear this man apart on social media. If I was an artist, the LAST genre I'd wanna go into is Christian. They are some of the most judgemental, closed minded, racist group of people I've come by. Sad but it's the truth. Don't believe me? I can show proof of that. This is why noone takes the Christian community serious. I'm down with God...I'm NOT down with his so called followers.
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I hear a lot about the injustices oand hypocrisy of believers but I never hear of how beautiful the church can be when operating in a healthy way. I've seen and witnessed so many people set free, delivered, restored and amazing fellowship and ministry. I've seen beautiful miracles signs and wonders prophecies and other things the Holy Spirit has done in congregations. Plus if it was always about the intimacy and secret place between us and Jesus then why am I always hearing the body of Christs behaviors as an attitude to hinder people faith in Christ? That's ridiculous. Ive heard many responses when witnessing that christians have been the cause of people rejecting the gospel but that's just an excuse. The church should never determine how one will respond to Christs sacrifice and invitation for reconciliation to all...
Because y’all are all hypocrites. Y’all despise those who don’t share the same beliefs as you. You don’t love people like y’all claim to do. Your love is not genuine. You Christians are the fakest people around.
Maybe because people haven't seen the beautiful parts. But he's one to talk, he can listen and admire Tupac and ignore all his evil or the evils with the other secular rappers around him yet with the church it makes him doubt being a Christian it's so stupid. Christ, a perfect man, walked among us in compassion and sympathizes with our weaknesses and we as imperfect people should be able to do the same. Hypocrisy is literally in every society, he's just looking for excuses.
@@imrickjamesbitch6574 first of all, what are you talking about? How many real Christians do you know? Where are you getting your ideas of what is love and what is hate? You obviously know nothing.
And the fact that someone like you obviously listens to Lecrae shows a real problem with his music when you are obviously a hater of Christ and Christians.
A. Smith I been around Christians my whole life. You guys aren’t any different from the world you try so desperately to separate yourselves from. You’re hypocritical. Y’all don’t even follow that book like y’all say to do. Y’all cherry pick bible verses you want to live and say fuck the rest. I bet I know more about your bible than you will ever know.
Long Suffering is a fruit of the Spirit.... meaning it proves u R on the right track! Keep going Lecrae...persecution is a mark of righteousness....Keep the Love and be encouraged.
Why is he quoting Gandhi and not Jesus. Christians are sinners saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. We fight the flesh everyday. Trust God your faith isn't in the people. . Love God Love people
Kyle Manning it's something a non believer would say.
It's because Ghandi was asked the question what it would take for him to be a Christian. He replied ( in short) that he didn't have a problem with Christ, but His followers. Ghandi was of course lying to himself, because Christ said He was the only way to God, and Ghandi clearly wanted another way. But it is telling when Christians bite and devour each other, it wrecks the best testimony God asks us to demonstrate: His love. Unfortunately, all Christians fail at this, myself included, and Lecrae feels deeply misunderstood by Christians. I still don't understand why he is doing a lot of what he is doing and I get frustrated with his newer approach, So I pray for him. He has the same Holy Spirit I do, but a lot more pressure. He also has an inside perspective that I can't see.
Gandhi was a liar. Pretentious people quote Gandhi
Because Lecrae is a human just like us. As Christians, we admonish and lift up. We're judging people and we're not even in court.
Because he has lost some respect for Christians not Christ. He sick of Christians judging others and each other
I understand exactly what he means. I walked out of the blessings and will of God. Because of how someone in the church treated me. It bothers me so much that we have to deal with drama and negativity in the church. But the devil is in the pews too so notsurprised. I had to remember too look up and not around me. Because people say what they want to say and do what they want to do. But God has the final say
….no sir, SINFUL human beings are in the pews, just like you….just like me….(Romans 3:10-12…..Romans 3:23)…the Bible talks about how to handle a brother who offends you. 1)take it to them 2)take it to church leadership 3)if he doesn’t repent then treat him like an unbeliever. And also forgive them 70 times 7.
I'm truly keeping this man lifted because he's too rappi for the church and too churchy for the world seriously you keep doing what God called you to do Lecrae don't let no one put you in a box because at the end of the day I feel like he's taking his gift and he's using it for the glory of God and I know people have mixed emotions because even on some of his songs he sings with worldly rappers but at the end of the day we don't know what goes on in that studio he could be spreading the gospel....
GOLD!
Even so, I think that CHH fans are INDEED taxing on artists to have a standard of living that isn't...where they're at. I'm not saying that Lecrae was 'perfect/ideal/etc' but, the fans, to a greater degree, weren't helping to understand nor be encouraging to this guy's walk. They judged him at every turn and didn't really ask him where he was going. Its like everything Christians are supposed to be told everything and...I suppose we should in private in that like Paul did with the other Apostles like Galatians. But also in that same book, Paul went straight for the ministry and DIDN'T 'check-in' with anybody. He just did the ministry.
so yeah. 'Don't let your right hand what your left hand doing.'-Jesus.
But, yeah. I'd just like for people to just ATTEST that he's doing okay. That's all I want. To know that we know; or, that you know that things are happening alright.
[Edit] I am glad that Lecrae's doing his thing. At the end of the day, Christianity; whether popular or not, will keep growing by God's will of Decree and although Lecrae's famous and whatever aims we're hoping that he will reach; and not reach in our own minds, Christ will build His church. So, instead of wondering if he would've should've done this or that, we've got our own walk. Let other people nearby disciple him; because they're able to. Can't make much happen w/o love or knowledge in a loving way.
We praying for you bro!!!
Thank you for sharing this! I know some people who would benefit from hearing this!
People confuse Christianity with religion. I hear Lecrae's heart. Making a decision to turn to Christ as the source instead of yourself is a pretty big decision. It says that you are no longer your own god and you can't navigate life without the Creator of Life, and Jesus is now responsible for that role. With trusting Christ will come criticisms because Jesus too was met with criticisms by the same type of religious folks whom Lecrae is criticized by. I understand completely. I don't think that there is anything wrong with wanting to separate from the religious folk. Afterall, it's pastors, preachers, evangelist, apostles and teachers who were called to the body of Christ, not the ministry of helps. Keep up the great work for the kingdom, Lecrae!
He’s been through a lot, and he’s still a good dude.
I find it ironic how people in the comments are saying that people trash on lecrae for going away from Christianity but most of the trashing actually happens to those who are telling lecrae what he's doing is wrong... smh
I think I see what LaCrae is doing a little differently. The people of Jesus day including the Pharisees passed judgment on him because who accompanied him and who he decided to have lunch with in addition to those he healed and day of the week he did it. I believe Jesus was trying to get us to understand that relationships are more important than Religiousness (not to be confused with righteousness). In LaCrae's defense, he is touching and influencing a people and a population that not many can have the opportunity to reach. God's heart is that not one will perish, so it is our responsibility to use our gifts and talents to meet them where they are. I feel LeCrae is seasoned enough to impact and influence them to change by thinking outside the box and by breaking the traditional cycle of religion or religiousness vs meaningful relationships building with all men regardless of our biases and preconceived notions. I applaud you LeCrae and Mali Music as well for going mainstream and maintaining your righteousness, reaching the unreachable and having to be hated by you own fellow Christians to save souls and break out of the cycle and system of old. We have to upgrade our methods of influence to make real impactful change.
I feel where he's coming from. He doing what God ed him to do and "religious" people attacking him. Even Jesus left the "religious" people and hung out with the people that really needed and wanted him. I'm so proud of the work that Lacrae is doing!
But Jesus never abandoned the gospel
@@bryanhatch6688 Lacrea has not abandoned the gospel either.
Sometimes fame and the money can cloud your faith, in your walk with Jesus. I think we all go through periods where we question God and some of us have walked away from Him. But something (Holy spirit) Is always there to guide you back to Christ.
Leacre I have to say brother that you have such a big heart and christ knows your heart more then the world dose but as long as you stay with your music and have Jesus in it and there is no way of stopping you remember when you first started you inspire a lot of ppl to turn to Chris and I'm one of the inspiration and pray for you was the reason why I turn to Chris I just hope that you don't lose your faith
I would like to state the comments I am about to add are not hater comments or anything of the sort just a different perspective . Maybe some of the reason he felt disenfranchised by the church is because he did that to himself to begin with. (Seriously not hating on the brother). He has not only not defended the church during interviews but seems not to be able to take rebuke or exhortation from the church which is not biblical. He stated no one could understand the direction he was going but he should acknowledge that alot of the saints were having a problem with that direction and he has become a huge stumbling block for many. And once again he makes the church look badin public and even blames them for this trial he has passed through with no self examination or accountability. Again I would like to state I am not hating on the brother and I pray he doesn't walk away from the faith but he's made alot of mistakes that he doesn't want to seem to own up for. Thanks as always wade-o for awesome videos and keeping us up to date with CHH.
So well said. Totally understand where youre coming from. And have even thought similar thoughts. Not here to demonize him or his walk at all. But its as you said, he has people watching. Especially his fans and people in the church. And not all of the church hates him. Just trying to understand whats going on.
I don't think he believes the whole church hates him. In fact, I know he doesn't.
My bad, I should of been more clear. Topics like this are hard to talk about via chat room cause you gotta be real specific. Just like Lecrae, when I said "church" i didn't mean the church as a whole. I don't know him personally but I am very sure he didn't mean 100% of the church. The point I was trying to make is when you speak on the church publically, those that are not of the church are going to take it as we mean "whole church". The world is always looking for a reason to point the finger and criticize, they don't need any extra help from us, especially in the public eye. To quote Shai Linne on "Cosmic Powers", "Here's an important principal/You become more vulnerable the more your visible/I mean c'mon, if Peter and David can fall/Shouldn't that be a wake up call for us all?/. (And no I did not quote Shai Linne because of his recent public remarks towards Lecrae, the lines were just fitting).
Those are fair points. People do look to discredit the church at every turn.
And I'll be honest....i chuckled when you quoted shai. Thanks for the clarification.
Wade-O, no one knows his heart there, but I don't think he hates the whole church. The problem is, he speaks against the church in general terms in ways that don't edify others. He certainly has a life full of problems many don't understand, but at the same time, he has a platform others don't and much responsibility comes with it. I pray for him sincerely, but sometimes (and this is only based on his public comments) it doesn't appear that Lecrae examines his own words, motives, and walk when the criticism does come. Not everything brethren say to him is "hating," it's actually loving based on some things he says and does that bring James 4:4, 1 John 2:15-17, and 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 to mind. We can only go by what we see and hear. We certainly could be wrong in that respect, but over the past few years he has been publicly consistent about saying and doing things that make a believer look at scripture, then examine Lecrae's actions and statements, and then come away scratching our heads wondering what's up.
Im gonna pray 4 lecrae even more now. And any other Christian who is struggling with this🙏
We can not put this man on a pedestal... period. None of us NOT NONE OF US are perfect.
Tellme what unscriptural thing hehas said or done? God bless Lecrae, had times in my life I was exhorted through his music, keep your eyes on Christ, follow Him, dont worry about religous people
Instead of judging him how about we pray for him and leave it in gods hands. Only God sees his true plan and that is Lecraes own walk with Christ. Not ours. A Christian prays for their brothers and does not judge them. Have faith God will fix his path when he goes astray.
many question, but the love our heavenlu father is greater. may God continue to bless and protect and guide lacrae
God never leaves you or forsaken you so the holy spirit still dwells in him no matter how his life looks like. I thought about what Christians were criticizing about and i put myself in lecrae shoes and all i can say is that hes blessed
Wow he hit the spot I needed to hear this I was church hurt real bad but what I realized on the journey I took my eye off of Christ and put it on people I can't take it out on my father but I found myself in an awkward place not even going to church that's not cool so keep me lifted...
I don't think he should really care what random people on the internet are saying he should know that comes with the territory, as far as receiving criticism from Christian artists, I haven't heard anyone criticize him in an ungodly manner and I think they have some valid points. The tough thing with the Lecrae situation is that we have seen him move away from Christ and the church musically. As a Christian I loved Lecraes music, but there have been some things he's done that I don't get but for me the main issue I've had is that it seems like he's trying to steer away from Christ musically.
Everybody needs prayer. Even lecrae. #pray
Nice phrasing of the question, bro! Had to look up the full interview. Good stuff.
I can't wait to see people take his "I want to see how broad I can go" line out of context. LOL
This is exactly why I returned to christ. This time around it's about building a solid relationship with God! I'm going through my journal now. Studying the bible has been revealing. Enlightening.
Thank you for not giving up. I feel your pain and I respect your honesty. A lot of ppl go through this. We have to believe in the creator and not in the creation. To much is given, much is required. The hard times are God’s pruning season for us. Doesn’t make it easier, but just hold on. When ur called to something much greater than man can fathom, just remember God ways are not ours ways, His thoughts are not our thoughts, and He is to wise to make a mistake. We are fearfully, perfectly, purposely made! Much ❤️
It Amazes me how folks think that being in Christ life is going to be easy....The Bible don't teach that...
I suppose I appreciate Lecrae' s honesty. However, sometimes he tries too hard to appear mainstream and different; with his words he inadvertently marginalizes the Christian community to appease to the world. It's actually quite appalling because the world is watching this and it continues to give the world continuous ammo to attack said community. The church should be corrected...we have alot of work to do. But to be appear to be this "anti-religious" crusader before the world is embarrasing.
I'm a 12 year old and I love lecrae. Man don't these haters bring you faith down!
I respect his honesty, the problem is that he is in the spotlight so of course you're going to see flaws but what about us as believers who do things behind close doors, sometimes you just have those weak moments but thank God that He is faithful even when we are faithless for He cannot deny Himself, let's keep our brother in Christ lifted up
Darius Jenkins one of the best comments I read
Lanina Clay Amen
Alot of Christians would say he did it to himself but the truth is its because all the self righteous Christians with a religious spirit ganging up on him and calling it righteous judgement which is a flat out lie Straight From Hell when you get that all the time it makes you want to quit believe me I could not handle it I will lash out in my flesh too much and yes he could have made the church look a little better but guess what the church doesn't do themselves full of hypocrites backstabbing gossips and some of chh is corny but on the other hand not all of the church is like that you did need to have a balance and interviews I understand Lecrae
Michelle Steed so you just admitted that you are lead by your flesh which is why you find it OK with what he's doing? Hmmm
Dezperado7'z Yes I can amit that I have acted out in my flesh especially at work because I'm a human being I'm real about it that's why I need Jesus everyday just like you and just like Lecrae I'm not perfect and I'll never will be a real believer in Jesus admits to Falling everyday being transparent a fake Christian will point at everybody else's problems and act like they don't sin everyday yes we are to go to God to help us but we will still fall at times a part of life yes I don't care about him doing music with other artists I like all kinds of music Christian or non-Christian just like I Like watching non-Christian movies everybody's got their conviction as long as we don't force it on each other believe me I will be the first to admit I had and have problems sometimes I feel like the worst at times mostly my attitudes but God Love us through them only the devil would say you are no good because look what you just said or did yes we are to try to do better
Michelle Steed 💓💓💓
Praying for him. I know the pain. God is still good
Oowee.. I regret to say I've had the same experience with a lot of churches. I wanted to join the choir in at least three churches without hearing me sing or anything they all denied me which was something I've never experienced before
What's the problem?
There is no excuse to be lukewarm, if we’re true believers we know the battle isn’t against flesh and blood but evil spirits.
I jus wanna pray 4 Crae....Life is hard and the path is narrow!!! I used to be critical my self of folks!! But now for me i chose to try and show Jesus love more!! Theres a time 4 love...a time 4 hate...!!! Hate the sin love the person even if they dont except it!!! Its easy to love someone who loves you back!! Bless all yall atleast we are discussing Jesus instead of promoting the world❤
LOL - Most so called "Christians" have absolutely no idea of what it really means to be a True Believer In & Follower Of the Lord & Saviour.
Dies anyone else have a flickering horizontal bar across the video? I hope my screen isn't broken
Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.
(James 3:1)
It comes with the territory brothers and sisters. The reason Lecrae gets much scrutiny and gets judged strictly is because of the platform he stands on. There is a difference between condemning someone and judging someone righteously. As Christians we are able to "judge righteously" according to God's word which is different from condemning someone. I believe many who follow Lecrae were not necessarily condemning him but they were "judging" his actions based on the teaching platform he took up for years. Yes he is not a pastor but his music taught the masses about Christ so it should not come as a surprise that he gets judged strictly when people don't understand his moves. We/He should understand that those who follow him are at different levels, some are new to the faith,some mature,some returning to the faith,some still immature in the faith etc, so he/we can't put the blame on God's people. Jesus was scrutinised left,right and centre and they even said he had demon in him. But he said the servant can not be greater than the master. So what Lecrae went through is nothing new under the sun. Leaders everywhere will always be judged more strictly so my brother Lecrae should get his strength from the source of life and not look up to what people say. We should pray for our leaders in the faith and our leaders do the same for those who follow them because after all is said and done "the eye can not say to the ear i don't need you". We are of one body. Grace and Peace.
in a Christian and I believe what you did I spirit led. Some times we Christians are a meas but he never changes. hold on care it will all be worth it in the end.❤
great video. Yes some belivers can give a bad name to Christianity to be honest, but we have to stay strong.
you know I had a dream I saw Lecrae sniffing drugs like he just tired of everything. He looks so fatigued now and restless. we all going thru it bro just keep fighting and don't let go hanging on by a tread I know..
I love it when people think they're better than everyone else I understand what it's like to understand your faith is more mature than many or some others, but if you're walking so close with God how could you be so blind to helping his people
There are many people who claim to be Christians yet, are very opinionated about Lecrae but, I just want to say one thing.
I'm a sinful man who walks a dark path but, I am trying hard to be closer with God because I truly believe at one time in my life when I was younger, God helped me when I called upon him and this is when I was on the streets, surrounded by people with evil and malicious intentions.
The only thing that kept me clinging on to my faith was CHH and it still does. Even though Lecrae may not be 100% Christian in his music, I feel like he still helps us lost ones in thinking and wanting to be closer with God.
To anyone out there reading this, please pray for me.
I'm losing faith, not from the people but the promises of God just don't provide. I am having to work hard to survive because I'm relying on God to provide.
Life is a game of convincing/agreement.
Every one of you that read that first sentence will have your own interpretation of it. For all of you that think Lecrae’s music is heretical have one perspective. Those that think it’s God inspired or filled have another perspective. This goes the same with scripture. Everyone has their own interpretation of it. Now the real question is to what extent are we leaning towards our own understanding, the understanding of other people, and God. It’s impossible to please everybody. The Bible tells us to be in a constant renewal of our minds. At the end of the day everyone’s following something or someone because of their/its power to convince. Whether it be through faith, power, experience, lies... the list goes on. We follow convictions. Even this message itself is meant to convince this reality. It’s a paradoxical trap, and the funny thing is that the only way out of it is to choose a conviction and just believe that it is right. Some of you will understand this comment and some of you will not and others will be oblivious to it. All we know is that God “is”
Man, you don't even know, this is my thoughts, my heart coming out of Lecrae's mouth. That is EXACTLY how I been feeling especially since last fall with the election and everything. Man.
Thanks for sharing man.
We as a body of Christ needs to be strong as an individual and a whole. The devil will try his absolute best to get you to sin and as far away from Christ that he can. Just keep ya head up and continue to rock with Christ no matter what. I know sumtimes we as Christians don’t meet eye to eye but Christ wants us to work it out with other Christians that are lost or don’t fully understand the messages that person might be going thru sumthing never know so don’t give up on em just pray that God softens they hearts. Much luv to you all.
He is just a man in a desert. We at times can't hear God's voice but it's perseverance that gets through. It's sharpening the dull tool.
I noticed this as it was happening, its a shame the christians forget that Gods purpose for him is to reach people that others cant reach. I have no rap cred, no street cred, I couldnt relate to the people that he can relate to. He was just trying to be a light, as God has asked and the people that are supposed to lift him up and encourage were the ones tearing him down. So sad that we think Christian artist are only for "us". We are like greedy kids in the sand box. Lecrae, Im glad you follow God and not man! Keep it up.
I can definitely relate... That's why it's so important to have your OWN relationship with God. Otherwise, the "church folk" will run you away from Christianity...
I love Lecrae's. It gives me something good to workout to. 👌
Plus Trip Lee and Derek Minor.
Yeah I went through that myself this year as well. I can relate.
Omg Yall are so... Lecrae quotes Ghandi because Ghandi was asked how he felt about Christ. He said it's not Christ that's the problem but His followers. Thus, Ghandi was saying he would NEVER turn his people towards Christ for fear they'd be so corrupt as Christs followers. AKA, some of the Church isn't doing the best job to represent Christ so yes it is a turn off to Christianity. We cause people to blaspheme because of how we live.
Jasmine Garner exactly
Clearly Ghandi had a problem with Christ since Ghandi wasn't a christian, but a hindu. He lived in unbelief. Though he admired the ways of Christ. He did not submit to him as Lord over All. And there lies the problem
I feel Lecrae because I though not a celebrity have felt the same way about the church and biblically sound Christians I have known. We forget about that verse in Galatians 6 where Paul talks about one being caught in transgression that a spiritaully mature person should restore them in a spirit of gentleness but that comes with a warning for that person that they may not be tempted so keep watch. I have even disagreed with some of Crae's positions, it's not all black and white like everyone thinks. The struggle is really real and it is God who keeps us praise his name.
Great message!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🙏 salute to you brother blessings fasho ✌️
We as individuals are apart of the body. The body is the church. Christ is the head. What do you mean you’re done with relationships. It’s easy to do things on your own. If the church were not organized biblically then we can do whatever we want. Keep it real bro. Light is light. Dark is dark. Don’t try to make your dark to gray to light bro. Special calling, right.
what God gives he can take away. it was your music that turned me back to God.God is love my friend God is the truth the way and the light the Omega the beginning and the end. Please do not leave God.. He died for you. He lived you so much he died for you. If the world hates you. The world first hated me. This devil that grats you thing's.. there only things you can't take with when you pass. please stay humbel love the Lord your God. I would rather stand with God then to stand with the world and be judged by God. I proud of what you have done with your life I'm happy for you. Never forget who got you there GOD JESUS THE HOLY SPIRIT. never forget that Satan is a deciver he doesn't care for you or your family. never forget you where a preacher of the word of God that is your calling.. I do not want to see you in the Deeper Darker!!! I want you to live forever. If they where truly God's people they would not have done anything bad to you. That's how the devil works I know I use to have money a car a home untill I was drained dry.. All my so called friends left..... Use your talent for God and God alone. It will not be easy it won't get your worldy things but think of your Mason on a Gold road in Heaven. I beg you come to God!!!!!! Come back to love and live for ever don't let the devil win.
Christ is the way
I've thought of leaving the faith many times. Maybe I have subconsciously left mentally time to time. I've left religion because of the emotional and sexual abuse I encountered but I've clinged to Christ and his teachings and living out my faith on my own day by day.
IMO this a whack move by Crae.
The most beautiful aspect of this walk with Christ is that He gives us the undeserved privilege to choose. That means that what you make of things, that's on you. If you wanna leave the faith, that's an internal struggle - not external.
bravo sir.
Lol and if you don’t choose him, he sends you to hell. What kind of privilege is that?
Sho Nuff thank you for the response. Just wanna preface my response with the fact that it’s been 2 years since this comment & I’m still a huge Lecrae fan. Also that as he has shown that his perspective has grown since this vid, so has mine. My view of hell is that it it’s a place that is separation from God & those who inhabit it are ones who have chosen that separation from God is better than being with him. I don’t think God would just “send” us there. We are His children & I believe it’s His will is that all of us be saved (spend eternity with Him.) That is exactly the reason why He sent His Son, Jesus. I still stand on the point that God gives us the opportunity to choose. And that’s a beautiful thing. While Romans 10:9 tells us what we need to do in order to be saved, Romans 12:1-2 tells us that we have to remind our mind DAILY. The way I see it, everyday (& even throughout the day) we need to refresh our mindsets all the time so that we can make the decision to live for Him in all things. Basically, to do all things for His glory. (Colossians 3:17) Have I figured this out & do this every single day? Absolutely not. I mess up all the time. But I keep choosing God because He chose me. He chose you. He chose all of us when He died/rose for us :) god bless you brother
Huh? He shared something extremely personal. Transparency. What is wack about it?
Crae's words ring true very much with the world. That should tell you enough.
But who's wrong here? Lecrae, or the countless people watching him drift into heresy? Writing people off as bad and judgemental doesn't help when you ignore why thry respond the way they do.
There but for the grace of God, go I.
Jesus gave us a Great Commandment Love one another, these are the Fruits of the spirits man.. LOOSE YOUR PRIDE MAN HUMBLE YOUR SELF BEFORE GOD IN PRAYER REPENT AND BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST MAN.. AND DONT GET UP UNTIL GOD POURS OUT SOMETHING OF HIM IN YOU SO THAT WAY HE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER... You know people BY There FRUITS. Examine your self brotha
Why does his shirt say Black Panther??
3 Options:
1. He's a comic book fan
2. He loves animals
3. He's showing loving to the Black Panther Organization of the 1970's.
The Wade-O Radio Video Channel LOL😂😂😂😂😂😂
He's getting into black liberation theology! Wasn't he the one help Kendrick find God? Now Kendrick is a black Hebrew! Sounds like lecrae isn't helping but adding fuel to the fire of racial division! I beg all of Gods people to look at John McArthurs take on racism because he lays out the biblical explanation to heal and restore hearts not the worldly way! Siding with the liberal Godless left and black hate groups isn't going to change our nation! The gospel does that
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The shirt that he's wearing is Marvel Comic's character, The Black Panther, which also is a upcoming film set for a 2018 release. Seriously, lets not read anymore into it.
Christians are sinners saved by grace right? So it's not like we don't sin and make mistakes - we just keep running back to the savior. I would say that the unrealistic expectations come from non-believers and that the real angst that people have toward Christians comes from our unwillingness to passively go along with sin - in our lives or in others.....people can say they love Christ, just not Christians, but they are really using Christians as scapegoats for why they aren't submitting to God. I'm really disappointed in Lecrae for not defending Christ followers and those who put him in this position...Especially when HE was encouraging to GO HARD for the Lord for all those years (after the music stops).....I got a feeling that old 'Crae would have a real problem with this Lecrae.....His comments make sense in the sense that falling away from God's people is often the first step in falling away from God....I'm also astounded by the fact that if you say something that's not affirming about him, it makes you fake or a hater. I love this dude, his music and his ministry. I think those of us who are most critical are probably the ones that are most concerned about him.
I’m not too sure this man is a Christian.
I strongly believe he is a Christian. He just went thru an immense time of doubt and struggle. He seems to have come out of that period much stronger.