As a Dane I’m rooting for Vingegaard, but heartbreaking to see Pogacar’s meltdown today.. He is such a likable person, and love the close competition between these two rivals .. Hope he will come back strong next year for some more close action 🤞
The disruption to preparation the last two years is probably frustrating. Hopefully we get to see them go head to head next year, both in amazing form.
Lots of names potentially able to step up. Gall Cano Skjelmose as already mentioned, at UAE there is not only Pogacar but also Juan Ayuso. Riccitello and Brenner two names worth keeping on your radar, Lenny Martinez already seems to be stepping up and I expect Uitjdebroecks to do the same. If Pidcock continues his progression and figures out his feeding issues then he can be a big feature of GC battles too!
They really need to start cracking down on crowd interference at the Tour. As long as they keep tolerating it, it's only a matter of time until teams start using it at a "tactic"
I was rooting for Jonas, but did not like how this tour ended with Tadej collapsing completely. I wanted a close race until Saturday with Jonas winning by a few seconds. Tadej is a super cool guy, and did not deserve to go down this way.
Usually happens at some point just happened a few stages later then it usually does with T trying to break J. J letting T spend all his energy so T ran out of steam
But that is the name of the game in every TDF..... The one that is the strongest over 3 weeks will win! We have just had the best tour for decades. All hail thís years king Vingo! And sallute to Poggi for the ride of the ages! Next year these two beast will stunn us all again!
Vingegård was asked on the Danish news whether he understood the social media questioning his performance in regard to doping. His answer was pretty straight ;- Yes, he understood it well and feels that people should continue to question the performances of any rider in the future to come. He clearly stated that he wasn´t on any illegal substances and believed the tour to be "clean" this year, one shouldn´t however be naive enough to think that doping is solely a thing of the past.
As a Dane I support Vingegaard but Pogačar is such a trooper. I really respect the honorable fight he put up. Vingegaard is just on another level. The TT yesterday was a mind blowing demonstration of power. I have never seen anything like it.
Jonas is tops and he is to be champion - I'd be celebrating. Little bit sad for pogacar, it was such a close match just stage 16 did him. He could try to retain second spot as he seems a bit demoralised. Adam yates has a chance on no 2.
What a fighter Pogacar !! Takes a lot to admit that he didn’t have anything left and couldn’t pedal anymore. I hope he comes back with a vengeance hard and strong next year.
@@krellejenbo he could have blame the crash, blame the weather, blame his team mates but he didn’t. Took it like a real man and admitted during the race “I’m gone, I’m dead”
@@neilberry1552 On stage 15 Pogi broke Froom's record from 2015 on Le Bettex. Did you cry "💉💉" that day too? I guess not. Stop being a fanboy.. Jonas is getting tested every day. People like you don't know anything, but spread evil rumors just because the one you are cheering for, isn't in the lead... Its sad.
@@CaminoCarpet no, Im danish so I cheer for Vinegaard obviously. But I still like Pog and everybody does. The danish commentators also said during the race "this is heartbreaking" Pog is a great champion and has a great personality.
@@CaminoCarpet I'm a big JV fan, but still heartbreaking to hear those words. Definitely not elation. While I was rooting against TP, I wasn't rooting for an injury or total collapse. I was rooting for nother Stage 16 outcome, where JV blows TP away, but TP still but on an amazing performance.
He aint the Best sorry to say i love the fight these 2 have but , when poggy gets stressed for weeks his form decline , for that i Think he might fo for a Giro and Vuelta , And making the tdf borring again
He will be back. But he is - as he said it - dead, for now. Normally I would say Pog is a better rider than Jonas overall. But Jonas just handles heat and long pressure so much better right now. And the time trial showed also a better technique. He stayed on the TT bike. He was not flying around on the bike uphill. And downhill - never seen a rider with this technique. The way he took the corners. The way he placed himself on the road. Perfection. I think this surprised Pog more than we know.... And today he just gave up. It happens.... Next year will maybe be totally different. But what a TdF this year!
Congratulations Jonas for winning the Tour de France 2023! He executed his strategy to perfection. He wisely conserved his energy for two weeks, doing just enough to keep ahead of Tadej. Jonas waited patiently for Tadej to eat into his slim lead advantage, just sticking to Tadej during races. After luring Tadej with a false sense of hope that the rivalry is closely matched, Jonas finally fired his big guns with a dominating time trial and a massive climbing effort in stage 17, ending up with a 7-minute advantage. What a tactical battle this tour has been, Jumbo-Visma executing their team strategy to perfection. Jonas playing the long strategy to the end when it really mattered. He indeed showed he is the strongest rider of them all, a worthy champion and a sign of things to come.
Energy conservation definitely has played a part but I would not rule off illness / lack of preparation due to his injury as the decisive factor in the last couple of stages. Then again Vingegaard just seems to be on another level regardless, maybe it wouldn't have mattered either way...
The TDF needs to ger these fans in check. God damn. Yellow Jersey just in a stand still during a climb is outrageous. But congarts to Jonas on the probable win. Pogi fought well tho.
The standstill was due to a stalled moto which then fell over on its side which in turn blocked the referee's car and all on a narrow single lane wide road. It was not really due to the crowds.
Team Jumbo Visma had an effective strategy and Vinny is proving that he is the greatest rider in Tour de France for 2 years in a row. I love Pog and I feel bad for him, I want him to win but Jonas is the man. The crowd control though, we are on 109th year of the race, yet the organizer still fail to control those euphoric and ecstatic fans(but not all behave well and intelligently) that causes accidents resulting in minor to race-abandoning injuries to the poor riders.
The Tour De France organisation needs to get their s*** together. There are so much Chaos with cars, spectators and motorbikes. Luckily a incident like that has not decided the tour, but it is only a matter of time..
Boring wins!!! Right??!!!!! Ugh! Thanks to Sagan for making it interesting through that time. I loved the time Froome and Sagan went ahead and Froome tryed to out sprint him at the end. Sagan.... nope!
Like good cheese and wine. Takes time. 😇 Crazy few months Gall is having since the tour de suisse. Vingegaard wanted it all today, but it proved too costly and he wisely "settled".. Nobody was catching Gall at that point.
Rob Hatch is generally the best commentator for those listening into the English broadcast when it comes to pronouncing names imo, although he does over-pronounce sometimes.
That is the name of the game in every TDF..... The one that is the strongest over all 3 weeks will win! We have just had the best tour for decades. All hail to thís years king Vingo! A nd sallute to Poggi for the ride of the ages! Next year these two beast will stunn us all again!
Hats off to Pogi, clear now he had nowhere near enough preparation to win this year. He could've rolled round and gone for stages yet the racer in him just wanted to push for final victory ✌️
It would've been an insult to cycling had Pogacar won the TdF this year. Already peaking in the early season in march at Paris Nice and destroying MvdP and WvA in RvV, casually grabbing AGR and LFW on the way to LBL. Breaking his wrist and having a limited preparation to the TdF. Just, no. Stop the bullshit claims that Vingegaard is doping. There's no way Jumbo Visma would fall in the same trap again after Rasmussen. Jonas dedicates his cycling season to be in peak form at the TdF. Tadej doesn't.
He's on something for sure. Not even tired at the end of the TT and this stage. It's clearly not normal. He's so far ahead of everyone, just like Lance was. So.......................
Good point because I ve realised he had a cold sore on his upper lip suggesting herpes virus ( not dormant anymore) situation.. In other words, his immune system not great at the moment.
@@k4z1m.ogm3n That goes for every rider in TdF right now. You don't punish yourself like that without consequences. Their bodies are breaking down from repeated strain.
gli unici a non accorgersi dei campanelli di allarme che annunciavano la debacle di pogacar sono stati i vari telecronisti. la crisi di pogacar era nell'aria già prima della crono ad un paio di tappe. nella crono si è manifestata che però vista la brevità della tappa 22Km ha tamponato il problema. oggi è arrivata la crisi in tutta la sua potenza.
Congratulations, Gall! Congratulations, Vingegaard! Pogicar broke. I can't believe it. Pogicar had such a successful season before this race, he has no reason to feel down about anything. I like it when racing is more competitive like this.
The very active and successful early season ending in a broken wrist is the reason he can't match Jonas. He could beat all other riders (he is doing so as he is still 2nd) but Jonas is too good a GT rider for Pog to continue having fun in other races. Pog still best all round road racer in world but Vin not distracted by lesser races (TdF represents vast proportion of global cycling awareness and income)
@@cuebj That's a great summary of Pogicar's current circumstances. If he hadn't broken his wrist, he might have won this Tour, but I'm not totally certain. Vingegaard has had superb form. That time trial was a brilliant display of superior power. It has been fun to watch them scrap with each other.
Pogi has a cold sore at the edge of his mouth. That could indicate that his immune system is way down. It could also indicate that Pogi may suffer from a virus or other infection which, if getting worse, could result in him having to abandon the race. Hopefully, that will not be the case, but Pogi is definitely not his usual self at the moment. I cannot recall that Pogi has collapsed so seriously before. Jonas seems to be on a different level this year.
Julian Alaphilippe hasn’t had any tactical nouse this TDF. He has made attempts at breakaways but it’s though he’s thinking “if I’m on tv that’s enough”. Not sure if it will endear him to Patrick Lefevere or secure his contract.
Well guess Tadej went flat out yesterday in the TT and he had nothing left in the tank for today’s stage. Still kudos to him for making this TDF exciting. Respect.
No. He's looked unnaturally pale for several days. The effects of the broken wrist are catching up in lost resilience for a 3-week slugfest. Two years ago he could ride with carefree abandoned win one-day races and TdF. Last year, Jonas appeared and the became focused on TdF. Pog could beat everyone else in GT while also doing the other races. Vin (who doesn't do the other stuff) is his match at GT, especially with the emphasis on monster mountains. So Pog will have to reign in his non-GT racing for fun if he wants to beat Vin at GT
To all the doubters and conspiracy theorists, Pogacar's VO2max is 89ml per kg. Miguel Indurain's was 95, Vingegaard's was 97 when he was just 17 years old. This is probably the highest level ever in cycling and may be even higher now he has developed more and just goes to show that Vingegaard is a pretty unique ''Unicorn'' specimen, not a product of doping. Pogacar himself is pretty unique in being able to win Grand tours, Monuments, Time Trials and Cyclocross and he is more explosive on steep ramps and a better sprinter than Vingegaard so it is not all one sided. Tadej has all the tools but is sometimes a little gung ho and tactically naive. Plus Jumbo are stronger and more disciplined than UAE at the moment. I am a massive fan of Tadej and believe that he will come back stronger and hopefully smarter and if so then this could be a new golden age like the Coppi / Bartali period. Vingegaard could be the spur that Pogacar needs to achieve true greatness. Vingegaard is not the new Merckx, lets hope Pogacar is not the new Poulidor. Just a shame that barring a disaster the tour is already decided and there's no Cav to win in Paris.
@@jobserboy Just google it and you can find them. I personally have followed cycling for a good while and have read these figures in articles over the years. I can't provide any proof they are correct, but Miguel, Jonas and Tadej's performances would suggest that they are outliers beyond even the already phenomenal level of most professional cyclists.
@@hipster-somme977 I am aware that Merckx failed drug tests - I think it was on 3 occasions.. I Hope that with all the testing going on that they are clean. Just that everyone young and spectacular is at some point touted as the ''New Merckx'' so I understand the veiled implication of drug use and this was the intention of the statement that he is not the new Merckx.
Smartphones an Social Media are what's causing the crowd to behave like this! If you have been to a concert, used public transport or people walking their dog lately you know what I mean!
Better Pogacar focus the 24 season on Le Tour of he wants to win it again. About this years, I think its clear Jumbo played with Pogacar for two weeks and then droped the hammer.
What's all this "queen stage" stuff? We started watching the tour back in 1997 and we were talking about this whilst watching the itv highlights last night; neither of us can remember ever hearing reference to it before...
This TdF is so brutal and cruel. Opening up with already gc contenders battle instead of nice sprinters stage, brutal 22km hilly TT, and a hellish mountain right after that? Damn
I am for Jonas but I am feeling sad for Tadej because I like the way they compete each other in mountains and hoping that he can reduce eving 2 to 3 minutes to jonas in 4 days.
Tbh i love that the race has been so close , but as last year poggy just shows if pressed . For weeks he just does not have the stamina to keep goin , i find that realy sad cause i love that close competition these 2 riders have , i just dont see poggy Winning tdf next year either and i fear that he might start to focus on maby duin a Giro and Vuelta instead
As a Dane I’m rooting for Vingegaard, but heartbreaking to see Pogacar’s meltdown today.. He is such a likable person, and love the close competition between these two rivals .. Hope he will come back strong next year for some more close action 🤞
Enig 💛💛
100%
The disruption to preparation the last two years is probably frustrating. Hopefully we get to see them go head to head next year, both in amazing form.
@@lllaxemenlllincl Evenepoel
He didn't know which bicycle to ride n the ITT. Hopefully, he will get more serious.
Jonas is just unstoppable this TDF. (They still have to do something to regulate the crowds, idiotic they haven’t done something yet.)
I was cheering on the side of Alpe d’Huez in ‘04. It was crazy, but nobody ran out in the road and actively blocked the riders. What a mess.
People are 🐒🐒🐒
They've never needed controls before. Crowds used to respect the riders. Now it's all about them (spectators).
Only regular issues I’ve seen have been all the motos and cars on the road. Don’t block fans access just so unnecessary vehicles can clog the roads.
Put a group b rally car through first😜
Felix Gall really deserved that stage win. Great job
Gall and Zimmermann are my heroes. I am curious about their development the next years.
Pogi, great sportsmanship and much sympathie like always.
Pogacar vs. Gall vs. Cano vs. Skjelmose
There are some really good young riders. They will be fun to watch in future Tours.
@@monkey2.092Hopefully
Lots of names potentially able to step up. Gall Cano Skjelmose as already mentioned, at UAE there is not only Pogacar but also Juan Ayuso. Riccitello and Brenner two names worth keeping on your radar, Lenny Martinez already seems to be stepping up and I expect Uitjdebroecks to do the same. If Pidcock continues his progression and figures out his feeding issues then he can be a big feature of GC battles too!
@@Fyr35555 Lenny Martinez is very underrated, he's gonna do big things the way he's progressing
They really need to start cracking down on crowd interference at the Tour. As long as they keep tolerating it, it's only a matter of time until teams start using it at a "tactic"
i suggest a snow plow. that would split the crowd
scythed motars
I only saw moto and car interference today. Maybe you want the whole race to be sterilized like Puy De Dome? No thanks.
Bradley tank..........
Water cannon.
I was rooting for Jonas, but did not like how this tour ended with Tadej collapsing completely. I wanted a close race until Saturday with Jonas winning by a few seconds. Tadej is a super cool guy, and did not deserve to go down this way.
Usually happens at some point just happened a few stages later then it usually does with T trying to break J. J letting T spend all his energy so T ran out of steam
But that is the name of the game in every TDF..... The one that is the strongest over 3 weeks will win!
We have just had the best tour for decades. All hail thís years king Vingo! And sallute to Poggi for the ride of the ages!
Next year these two beast will stunn us all again!
Jonas destroyed him. Quite literally.
Same here - Both riders are great guys. Hope Pogi comes back stronger next year
Pog not had the racing foundation as jonas did and also off bike with broken wrist ...it is what it is...he would've been better targeting the veulta
Gutted for Tadej! Jonas is on another level! Come back stronger Tadej! 💪
Jonas is on another dope.
@@mrsportschampion5796idiot
@@mrsportschampion5796 mount ventoux saw a glimpse how jonas will dominate the next two years when he crack tadej on climb but lost on descent..
Vingegård was asked on the Danish news whether he understood the social media questioning his performance in regard to doping. His answer was pretty straight ;- Yes, he understood it well and feels that people should continue to question the performances of any rider in the future to come. He clearly stated that he wasn´t on any illegal substances and believed the tour to be "clean" this year, one shouldn´t however be naive enough to think that doping is solely a thing of the past.
Doping evolves with technology/// We will find about today's methods in the next 5 to 10 years///
As a Dane I support Vingegaard but Pogačar is such a trooper. I really respect the honorable fight he put up. Vingegaard is just on another level. The TT yesterday was a mind blowing demonstration of power. I have never seen anything like it.
Jonas is tops and he is to be champion - I'd be celebrating. Little bit sad for pogacar, it was such a close match just stage 16 did him. He could try to retain second spot as he seems a bit demoralised. Adam yates has a chance on no 2.
Thanks for this - watched the stage live but its nice to have a good summary
What a fighter Pogacar !! Takes a lot to admit that he didn’t have anything left and couldn’t pedal anymore. I hope he comes back with a vengeance hard and strong next year.
What Else would he have said?
What else is he supposed to say, everyone could see it lmao too much dick riding
Not yet done! they will cracked Jonas the last 4 stages
@@krellejenbo he could have blame the crash, blame the weather, blame his team mates but he didn’t. Took it like a real man and admitted during the race “I’m gone, I’m dead”
@@khalenarizabal3552 I hope so too, but a 7+min lead is equivalent to a 3seconds gap during a 100m track sprint. We need to be realistic.
Jonas is honestly on a whole other level this year.
Jonas getting better stage by stage, while others are empty.
💉💉
@@neilberry1552 On stage 15 Pogi broke Froom's record from 2015 on Le Bettex. Did you cry "💉💉" that day too? I guess not. Stop being a fanboy.. Jonas is getting tested every day. People like you don't know anything, but spread evil rumors just because the one you are cheering for, isn't in the lead... Its sad.
He's found another gear
he's incredible
"I'm gone.I'm dead." that was hearthbreaking one.
For only some fans, elation for other fans
@@CaminoCarpet Actually I'm not a fan of TP or JV but I wish their rivalry lasted longer.
@@CaminoCarpet no, Im danish so I cheer for Vinegaard obviously. But I still like Pog and everybody does. The danish commentators also said during the race "this is heartbreaking" Pog is a great champion and has a great personality.
@@CaminoCarpet I'm a big JV fan, but still heartbreaking to hear those words. Definitely not elation. While I was rooting against TP, I wasn't rooting for an injury or total collapse. I was rooting for nother Stage 16 outcome, where JV blows TP away, but TP still but on an amazing performance.
Tadej is a great cyclist. In the TT he was more than 1:30 faster than all the rest but Jonas. I thank both for the exiting time they gave us.
😭 As a Pogačar fan, this stage stole my soul.
He aint the Best sorry to say i love the fight these 2 have but , when poggy gets stressed for weeks his form decline , for that i Think he might fo for a Giro and Vuelta ,
And making the tdf borring again
He will be back. But he is - as he said it - dead, for now. Normally I would say Pog is a better rider than Jonas overall. But Jonas just handles heat and long pressure so much better right now. And the time trial showed also a better technique. He stayed on the TT bike. He was not flying around on the bike uphill. And downhill - never seen a rider with this technique. The way he took the corners. The way he placed himself on the road. Perfection. I think this surprised Pog more than we know.... And today he just gave up. It happens.... Next year will maybe be totally different. But what a TdF this year!
Even a guy from Denmark felt sad about Pogi… but he’s not all in on the TDF as Jonas.. he peaks twice (classics) and jonas once TDF.
@@NosyNorseman why i Think he might Got for Giro Vuelta and Making the tdf borring again
@@NosyNorseman I guess Pogi did not peak in TDF 2022/23
Jonas just showed us who is boss on this TDF he is on another level this year.....Congratulations..💪👏
the gaps in top ten are ridiculous
It was worse last year and a year before that
Something going on and not just training methods
Some have better chefs. 😅
@@kgarg92maybe but maybe some are just better
The superior cervelo aerodynamics?😅
Proper Terminator vibes from Vingegaard this tour. Utterly inevitable.
I'm not a huge Vingegaard fan, however, you can't help but respect the guy after yesterday and today's stages.
Whhyyyy not
The brutality of cycling ❤
Vingegaard is just an Alien 💪🔥
Jumbo Visma, what a team!!
Thank you for the extended highlights!!
Congratulations Jonas for winning the Tour de France 2023! He executed his strategy to perfection. He wisely conserved his energy for two weeks, doing just enough to keep ahead of Tadej. Jonas waited patiently for Tadej to eat into his slim lead advantage, just sticking to Tadej during races. After luring Tadej with a false sense of hope that the rivalry is closely matched, Jonas finally fired his big guns with a dominating time trial and a massive climbing effort in stage 17, ending up with a 7-minute advantage. What a tactical battle this tour has been, Jumbo-Visma executing their team strategy to perfection. Jonas playing the long strategy to the end when it really mattered. He indeed showed he is the strongest rider of them all, a worthy champion and a sign of things to come.
Tadej spent too much energy yapping and teasing his opponents and other riders with his mouth :-)
Energy conservation definitely has played a part but I would not rule off illness / lack of preparation due to his injury as the decisive factor in the last couple of stages. Then again Vingegaard just seems to be on another level regardless, maybe it wouldn't have mattered either way...
I had that sensation after yesterday stage. He always said the team had a plan. They played the tactic to perfection.
The TDF needs to ger these fans in check. God damn. Yellow Jersey just in a stand still during a climb is outrageous. But congarts to Jonas on the probable win. Pogi fought well tho.
The standstill was due to a stalled moto which then fell over on its side which in turn blocked the referee's car and all on a narrow single lane wide road. It was not really due to the crowds.
Also with all the motorbike issues drones might be a good idea for these mountain stages.
Without the motorbike. What is going to try and keep the crowd on the side of the mountain top from getting even worst? Predator Drone?
@@mracer8 It'd be a start👍
@@mracer8 Commisaire's cars stay just ahead of groups of riders - with wide bull bars!
never going to happen the motorbikes will always be there, there is no other solution other than not allowing the spectators on the road.
@@metamon2704 shut down and put 3000km of barrier on public road might be a bridge too far
good win. congratulations Jonas
What a thrashing. Jonas well and truly has Tadej's number.
Felix Gall did a great job today!!!!
Team Jumbo Visma had an effective strategy and Vinny is proving that he is the greatest rider in Tour de France for 2 years in a row. I love Pog and I feel bad for him, I want him to win but Jonas is the man. The crowd control though, we are on 109th year of the race, yet the organizer still fail to control those euphoric and ecstatic fans(but not all behave well and intelligently) that causes accidents resulting in minor to race-abandoning injuries to the poor riders.
Another motorbike in the way, what a surprise
The Tour De France organisation needs to get their s*** together. There are so much Chaos with cars, spectators and motorbikes. Luckily a incident like that has not decided the tour, but it is only a matter of time..
Remember this kid underwent surgery just 3 months ago. To be within a minute till week 3 is amazing. Tough dude.
Sepp Kuss broke that race wide open at 3:13. That move broke Pogacar. I hope he gets a GC ride. Well done young man, well done!
BREAKING NEWS: Tadej Pogačar revealed to be human
Not vingegaard!😁
@@fabricebar5036 Vinge is juiced AF
@@xkingofnuthinxWhy do you say that?
@@setlhabanesquiremoseamo1719 Because he is a Pogacar fanboy cry baby
@@setlhabanesquiremoseamo1719 Probably because the sport of pro-cycling has multiple instances of just that over many, many years?
In two days we went from a rare close gap between top 2 to a unusually big one. Not even Froome's boring wins had such a margin. Amazing.
Boring wins!!! Right??!!!!! Ugh! Thanks to Sagan for making it interesting through that time. I loved the time Froome and Sagan went ahead and Froome tryed to out sprint him at the end. Sagan.... nope!
Excellent pronunciation. Vingegaard (aa=å). 👌💪
Very rare, yes. While it isn't a great effort to prepare yourself properly , yet very few seem to have any interest.
Pogacar is young.He will come stronger next year. Vingegaard feel it.
Like good cheese and wine. Takes time.
😇
Crazy few months Gall is having since the tour de suisse. Vingegaard wanted it all today, but it proved too costly and he wisely "settled".. Nobody was catching Gall at that point.
Rob Hatch is generally the best commentator for those listening into the English broadcast when it comes to pronouncing names imo, although he does over-pronounce sometimes.
Excellent first time/stage win Felix
That is the name of the game in every TDF..... The one that is the strongest over all 3 weeks will win!
We have just had the best tour for decades. All hail to thís years king Vingo! A nd sallute to Poggi for the ride of the ages!
Next year these two beast will stunn us all again!
Nice my idol vinge💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Hats off to Pogi, clear now he had nowhere near enough preparation to win this year. He could've rolled round and gone for stages yet the racer in him just wanted to push for final victory ✌️
We were there! I like to think my yelling COME ON YATESY helped Simon with his p4 overall. He did a double take when he heard my Brit accent 😂
It would've been an insult to cycling had Pogacar won the TdF this year. Already peaking in the early season in march at Paris Nice and destroying MvdP and WvA in RvV, casually grabbing AGR and LFW on the way to LBL. Breaking his wrist and having a limited preparation to the TdF. Just, no. Stop the bullshit claims that Vingegaard is doping. There's no way Jumbo Visma would fall in the same trap again after Rasmussen. Jonas dedicates his cycling season to be in peak form at the TdF. Tadej doesn't.
You’re one of the only sensible people I’ve seen on social media past two days, god bless you sir
Yes you 're a believer!!!
Agreed. It was a breath of fresh air when Floyd Landis destroyed Lance.
He's on something for sure. Not even tired at the end of the TT and this stage. It's clearly not normal. He's so far ahead of everyone, just like Lance was. So.......................
@@generynkewicz4871agree 100% along with pogacar. Its not training been ahead of everyone that much
Felix Gall ✌👍
sad to annually see these comments doubting a champion's integrity and honor, accusing one of cheating for the fact they are winning.
Its comments by the usual list of losers
I've not seen a single comment doing that.
@@DarylGriffiths it's really bad on the tour de France accounts Instagram posts, guess all the keyboard warriors moved over there
Have a look at yesterday’s post-stage comments.
I agree. They are not aware that Jonas as a junior rider was a very special rider.
Tadej might be sick. That fall off of performance is not normal.
He is clearly isn't ready for this TDF because he suffered an injury prior to TDF. He is on top form but Jonas is another level.
Jonas proved to be more resilient
@@sutsut5157 His performance is also not normal.
Good point because I ve realised he had a cold sore on his upper lip suggesting herpes virus ( not dormant anymore) situation.. In other words, his immune system not great at the moment.
@@k4z1m.ogm3n That goes for every rider in TdF right now. You don't punish yourself like that without consequences. Their bodies are breaking down from repeated strain.
Gostaria de saber qual critério é usado para dispor as equipes para a etapa?
gli unici a non accorgersi dei campanelli di allarme che annunciavano la debacle di pogacar sono stati i vari telecronisti. la crisi di pogacar era nell'aria già prima della crono ad un paio di tappe. nella crono si è manifestata che però vista la brevità della tappa 22Km ha tamponato il problema. oggi è arrivata la crisi in tutta la sua potenza.
Jonas you done it you do your job very very well quitelly killing your rival 😂😂😂God job jonay
Congratulations, Gall! Congratulations, Vingegaard! Pogicar broke. I can't believe it. Pogicar had such a successful season before this race, he has no reason to feel down about anything. I like it when racing is more competitive like this.
The very active and successful early season ending in a broken wrist is the reason he can't match Jonas. He could beat all other riders (he is doing so as he is still 2nd) but Jonas is too good a GT rider for Pog to continue having fun in other races. Pog still best all round road racer in world but Vin not distracted by lesser races (TdF represents vast proportion of global cycling awareness and income)
@@cuebj That's a great summary of Pogicar's current circumstances. If he hadn't broken his wrist, he might have won this Tour, but I'm not totally certain. Vingegaard has had superb form. That time trial was a brilliant display of superior power. It has been fun to watch them scrap with each other.
I love Pogi, but congratz to Jonas !
Felix Gall das erste mal bei der tour und schon einmal Träger des Bergjersy und jetzt sogar die Etappe gewonnen 🫵💪👍sehr Gail
Pogi has a cold sore at the edge of his mouth. That could indicate that his immune system is way down. It could also indicate that Pogi may suffer from a virus or other infection which, if getting worse, could result in him having to abandon the race. Hopefully, that will not be the case, but Pogi is definitely not his usual self at the moment. I cannot recall that Pogi has collapsed so seriously before.
Jonas seems to be on a different level this year.
He's been nobbing the Romanian hotel girls after the stages probably and got a bout of the old herpes. He's only young so can't blame him.
Pogi is not ill
Shame to see Pog blow up on that last climb. Lack of prep has finally caught up with him
Julian Alaphilippe hasn’t had any tactical nouse this TDF. He has made attempts at breakaways but it’s though he’s thinking “if I’m on tv that’s enough”. Not sure if it will endear him to Patrick Lefevere or secure his contract.
He’s rumoured to be moving to Total Energies, replacing Peter Sagan. You’d hope he does a bit more than Sagan for the team.
Well guess Tadej went flat out yesterday in the TT and he had nothing left in the tank for today’s stage. Still kudos to him for making this TDF exciting. Respect.
No. He's looked unnaturally pale for several days. The effects of the broken wrist are catching up in lost resilience for a 3-week slugfest. Two years ago he could ride with carefree abandoned win one-day races and TdF. Last year, Jonas appeared and the became focused on TdF. Pog could beat everyone else in GT while also doing the other races. Vin (who doesn't do the other stuff) is his match at GT, especially with the emphasis on monster mountains. So Pog will have to reign in his non-GT racing for fun if he wants to beat Vin at GT
To all the doubters and conspiracy theorists, Pogacar's VO2max is 89ml per kg. Miguel Indurain's was 95, Vingegaard's was 97 when he was just 17 years old. This is probably the highest level ever in cycling and may be even higher now he has developed more and just goes to show that Vingegaard is a pretty unique ''Unicorn'' specimen, not a product of doping.
Pogacar himself is pretty unique in being able to win Grand tours, Monuments, Time Trials and Cyclocross and he is more explosive on steep ramps and a better sprinter than Vingegaard so it is not all one sided. Tadej has all the tools but is sometimes a little gung ho and tactically naive. Plus Jumbo are stronger and more disciplined than UAE at the moment.
I am a massive fan of Tadej and believe that he will come back stronger and hopefully smarter and if so then this could be a new golden age like the Coppi / Bartali period. Vingegaard could be the spur that Pogacar needs to achieve true greatness.
Vingegaard is not the new Merckx, lets hope Pogacar is not the new Poulidor.
Just a shame that barring a disaster the tour is already decided and there's no Cav to win in Paris.
Where are you getting those vo2 numbers from
What, would that be the drugs cheat Merckx?
Said any of you, swilling energy dtinks.
@@jobserboy Just google it and you can find them.
I personally have followed cycling for a good while and have read these figures in articles over the years. I can't provide any proof they are correct, but Miguel, Jonas and Tadej's performances would suggest that they are outliers beyond even the already phenomenal level of most professional cyclists.
@@hipster-somme977 I am aware that Merckx failed drug tests - I think it was on 3 occasions.. I Hope that with all the testing going on that they are clean. Just that everyone young and spectacular is at some point touted as the ''New Merckx'' so I understand the veiled implication of drug use and this was the intention of the statement that he is not the new Merckx.
Tks BigFan
Terbaik lah Jonas, Bagi Poggy kipidap dongibab
Jonas (veni,vidi,vici) Vinegaard 👊🤛🤜👊🤛✊️✊️🤜.
Boom
Vingegaard 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
Maravilhoso. Pena que acabou cedo demais !
😍 😌 RESPECT...... ✨✨✨✨✨.... 🕊️💪🕊️
When the ear-piece comes out, you've cracked big time.
When the elastic snaps, it snaps big.
gall will be like jonas in years to come
3:47 OMG!
Jonas is the fastest two legged race horse... and a phenomenal climber 🏇🚴♂️🦵🦵
Smartphones an Social Media are what's causing the crowd to behave like this! If you have been to a concert, used public transport or people walking their dog lately you know what I mean!
Better Pogacar focus the 24 season on Le Tour of he wants to win it again.
About this years, I think its clear Jumbo played with Pogacar for two weeks and then droped the hammer.
What's all this "queen stage" stuff? We started watching the tour back in 1997 and we were talking about this whilst watching the itv highlights last night; neither of us can remember ever hearing reference to it before...
Pas de spectateurs ivres sur la chaussée *s'il vous plaît*
What’s the bike trainer used by Alpecin? Any lead is greatly appreciated
This is cycling guys. Whenever emotion gets the best of you, that's it.
Will be a Merckx type era final result sheet this Year .
more like Lance era
Except that Pog was Merckx in the spring.
@@langsjoen Go cry in a corner.
@@langsjoen Is that an accusation of doping? If so, be man enough to come out and say so. Oh, and provide some evidence.
@@MikeAG333 Langsjoen doesn't have the balls :)
Go Pog ❤
This TdF is so brutal and cruel. Opening up with already gc contenders battle instead of nice sprinters stage, brutal 22km hilly TT, and a hellish mountain right after that? Damn
Can gall tt?
Jeez- I’ve never seen anything like this.
I have not been impressed with the behaviour of the crowds this year!
I'm selling my Colnago for Cervelo. Lol!
No explosion, that was yesterday. Today, just a deflation.
That last climb should be illegal, jeez 😱
Too bad about the crash...Pogi looking to feeling the earlier season crash too.
Pity the GC race is over...
Oh my god the spectators were obnoxious… they SAW the riders stop and continued to surge forward to block their ways. Wtf is wrong with them.
Feels like TP already hit his limit while jones still improving
shoudl just have a lead car with a battering ram attached to it at this point. ridiculous crowd behavior
I am for Jonas but I am feeling sad for Tadej because I like the way they compete each other in mountains and hoping that he can reduce eving 2 to 3 minutes to jonas in 4 days.
How I can participate in tour de France
Poga boys deal with it. It's all over...Again😂. The flam boy Poga failed Again LOOOOL HAHAHAHAHAHA
Why is Pogacar being counted out already at this stage? Is it because the next stages are mostly downhill/ flats?
History, before our eyes.
Are we not entertained?😂🎉😮
Huh?
1:00 Background music anyone?
I feel Pog is broken mentally with the way the ITT unfolded. He didn't expect that margin hence he's mental strength is gone.
Ahhh bless. There's some fans 'saddle sore' their guy isn't winning. 😂
I'm gutted for pogacar his legs weren't there. Well done to Jonas though.
If not hindered by the crowd, JV could have stayed close to GAL!
Courcheval??
Tbh i love that the race has been so close , but as last year poggy just shows if pressed . For weeks he just does not have the stamina to keep goin , i find that realy sad cause i love that close competition these 2 riders have , i just dont see poggy Winning tdf next year either and i fear that he might start to focus on maby duin a Giro and Vuelta instead
Tadej carshed in spring and missing some days of race. Simple as that. He'll be back next year.