DRO BASICS? & Lathe Tool Offsets!! (SINO DRO)

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  • This is what happens when I try to make a DRO install video... no install footage! Instead, in trying to figure out the SINO SDS6's lathe offset, we get into DRO basics. Absolute, Incremental, Sub Datums, Tool Offsets, all that good stuff.
    The OLD tool holders video: • QCTP Tool Holders for ...

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  • @BoxxZero
    @BoxxZero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1310

    Are you a machinist?
    No.
    Do you work in a machine shop?
    No.
    Have you ever even used a lathe or mill?
    No.
    Have you done any metal work, in ANY capacity, aside from a bit of welding way back in highschool?
    No.
    And yet you watch every video this guy releases?
    Yes.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      I wasn't even interested in machining before I accidentally clicked a ToT video.. now I follow several machining channels :P

    • @LittleRainGames
      @LittleRainGames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I just got a china cnc mill a month ago, and just picked up welder last night.
      Ive been 3d printing and designing circuits for a while, thought it was time to up my game.

    • @grantkeller8024
      @grantkeller8024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Very well put, I completely agree...

    • @Blueshirt38
      @Blueshirt38 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@andersjjensen Same. I honestly couldn't have even told you what a machinist did a few years back. Then I wondered what a video titled "This Old Boring Head" could be about, and here I am.

    • @maurinavoni6925
      @maurinavoni6925 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I have never done metal work of any kind in my life. But ToT is my religion.

  • @analog56x
    @analog56x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    @22:00 you pulled the X back on habit, thats why your DRO was reading .040 out ;) you did everything correctly, just forgot not to pull back. it happens to the best of us, obviously, as it happened to you haha! cheers Tony!

    • @TheMetalButcher
      @TheMetalButcher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Habit will get you every time! Well spotted.

    • @analog56x
      @analog56x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheMetalButcher I do it every time haha! It gets frustrating if I dont pay attention to my dials haha. I just made some small parts on thursday for my truck, and did it a few times haha

    • @davidbarrett7424
      @davidbarrett7424 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      good spot

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bump so Tony sees it! Sharp eyes @analog56x!

    • @Mastan0
      @Mastan0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In addition, he should have swept the cutting surface of the inserts in the Z axis to find the high spot.

  • @jaredhouston4223
    @jaredhouston4223 5 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    If you don't have a DRO on your tool box drawers you're basically a caveman.

    • @albertlagerman
      @albertlagerman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      How can you sleep at night not knowing if your drawers are shut all the way?

    • @300DBenz
      @300DBenz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      albertlagerman by slamming the drawers shut hard enough so that all the tools end up in a pile at the back of the drawer. Having all the tools at the back in the lower drawers ensures the box/cabinet won’t tip over when you oven the overladen top drawer.

    • @pontiacmaniac2
      @pontiacmaniac2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @300DBenz That generally happens when I'm pissed. :)

    • @jonjohnson102
      @jonjohnson102 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This comment still keeps me up...

    • @mrfancypanzer549
      @mrfancypanzer549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Can confirm, i work with steam locomotives, i havent used a DRO in years, please send help or a DRO.

  • @marko247
    @marko247 5 ปีที่แล้ว +737

    Is it true that home-machinists spend 95% of their time making tools to make more tools and only 5% of their time on actual projects? :)

    • @striknein
      @striknein 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Mark O tools to make tools to fix your other tools

    • @Gottenhimfella
      @Gottenhimfella 5 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I think that's an overstatement. Most do not reach the 5% on projects threshold. Making useful things is no longer considered patriotic when you can buy them.

    • @lilflatty2472
      @lilflatty2472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      I WOULD SAY THAT IS MORE THAT ACCURATE!!! I HAVE A LATHE AND IV MADE A YO YO AND 20 boring bars, solid tool post, tool holders, milling attachment, wheels and handles, cross slide extension, index wheel for the chuck etc...haha! OH AND ITS REALLY GOOD FOR POLISHING ROUND STUFF LOL.

    • @ajl9491
      @ajl9491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes douchely

    • @TheMetalButcher
      @TheMetalButcher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Absolutely not!
      It's more like 99%.

  • @robwigglezz944
    @robwigglezz944 5 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    Remember to take cut, mic it, check to see if dro corresponds, and then repeat for 20 years because of the one time it screwed you when you didn't.

    • @TheMetalButcher
      @TheMetalButcher 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We had dros on the lathes and mills at school. I liked them on the mills. I turned them off on the lathes.

    • @skatewithvanz
      @skatewithvanz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen

    • @ifindmetal
      @ifindmetal 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You sure that wasn't back lash on your cross slide? Maybe ya moved it

    • @Rx7man
      @Rx7man 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheMetalButcher My lathe has horrid X axis accuracy.. .010" graduations, and unless you want to use the compound, you're pretty much stuck.. I'm looking at a cheap DRO for it.. I could do without one on the cross slide, but I'm going to put on on there too.. probably have to get the slim scale like ToT (14x40)

    • @TheMetalButcher
      @TheMetalButcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rx7man What 4x40 has 10 thou increments? That's junk.

  • @DoRiteFabrication
    @DoRiteFabrication 5 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    My cat isn’t very helpful with insert tooling either.

    • @Grantos1ea
      @Grantos1ea 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My dislike for your DRO started when ALE was an abbreviation for Absolute.
      Possibly ALE was a clue as to what the programmers were doing while they writing the software.

    • @TWISTEDSTRINGS69
      @TWISTEDSTRINGS69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I feel bad for ya...My cat has no problem with helping me insert my tool..LOL

    • @MrUbiquitousTech
      @MrUbiquitousTech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, but they will help with involute gear cutters.

    • @unitedspacepirates9075
      @unitedspacepirates9075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats why we keep human pets

    • @debrainwasher
      @debrainwasher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@unitedspacepirates9075 That is not exactly always true. In my humble opinion, cats domesticized humans - not vice versa.

  • @petroelb
    @petroelb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    I'm starting to think it's really Meatball who does all of the work and you just explain it on camera and take all of the glory...

    • @danielsauriol
      @danielsauriol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Meatball should start his/her own channel .... (Is Meatball a he or a she?) My two cats are similar, but they are not kitten anymore ...

    • @mikedrop4421
      @mikedrop4421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What a pussy.

    • @12mak
      @12mak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I have a cat named meatball! and her moms name is meatloaf :P

    • @CaptK-py8rq
      @CaptK-py8rq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bingo! That's why Meatball was so anxious! ...it's all coming together now...

  • @RyanDoesAll
    @RyanDoesAll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    The nature scene with the natural river of flood coolant, priceless.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I was SO waiting for David Attenborough to start musing about the unique peculiarities of the mating call of the steel chip :)

    • @shawnhuk
      @shawnhuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anders Juel Jensen - underrated comment for sure, right there.

    • @billdoodson4232
      @billdoodson4232 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd go so far as to say, inspired.

  • @darinh
    @darinh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    SINO should hook you up with some absolute DRO scales for making this sweet vid... or at least a high-five. Whichever is easier.

  • @jarrydlay5147
    @jarrydlay5147 5 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Take the blue cap off the back of your dial indicator. There is a flat tip that unscrews... swap that with your indicator tip and voila you have a flat tipped indicator for offsetting your tools @18:25.

    • @xpndblhero5170
      @xpndblhero5170 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ToT mentioned this comment in a video and I didn't realize it was this video until I heard him say he didn't have the flat tip on the indicator, so I looked through the comments and found the comment he showed..... Nice work dude. 😁👍

  • @katharinelewis1
    @katharinelewis1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    It's cool going from zero knowledge of machining to feeling like I have more background info on the topic with each video you post (except proper form on the one inch punch. ;)) I am genuinely thankful for the time you put into visual aids and explanations, you made machining a more enjoyable and less intimidating trade for me to step into.

    • @wolfitirol8347
      @wolfitirol8347 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Scott Page USMC that's how I became ill too.. First watching Tony's vids then I bought a lathe, than a mill, than a bigger lathe than a metal bandsaw, grinders, air compressor, tool and cutter grinder, heating oven and so on.. And now a little over 2 years after starting to watch the vids I have a room full of machinerie and tools I didn't know the name 3 years ago 🤔🤔🤔 so please run run run and never look back or you'll end like me 😂😂😂

    • @jamesocker5235
      @jamesocker5235 ปีที่แล้ว

      He teaches great, I just learn enough to be dangerous, lucky no test at the end

  • @donttouchthisatall
    @donttouchthisatall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    holy hell, where did you pick up your amazing camera, audio and editing skills? It's like I am watchin Martin Scorsese do a video on machining! ♥

  • @ToTheTopCrane
    @ToTheTopCrane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +247

    Still trying to figure out the Jekyll and Hyde relationship between ToT and AvE. 🤔

    • @hodgepodgeenginerd1258
      @hodgepodgeenginerd1258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      To The Top Crane they are twins in real life. Ave is the evil one and ToT is our savior.

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@hodgepodgeenginerd1258, I can see that. It almost reminds me of the old cartoon that was turned into a video game 'Spy vs. Spy'.

    • @PrestonMcgill
      @PrestonMcgill 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@ToTheTopCrane π vs. π

    • @ToTheTopCrane
      @ToTheTopCrane 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PrestonMcgill 😂👍

    • @codswallop.
      @codswallop. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      dark lord AvE is 100% bumblefu-canucki whereas i’m pretty convinced that ToT is philly through-and-through.

  • @docdoc
    @docdoc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I have very little need for this stuff, I work wood, and to tell the truth would be better off doing something else with my time..... yet I still sit here for 26 minutes listening to stuff I will most likely never need to know..... go figure/well done/keep em coming?

    • @PapiSmerf
      @PapiSmerf 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The principles of measurement, adjustment, and modification of your tools don't change between steel and wood. Believe it or not you're getting more useful knowledge than you'll initially understand just by watching him go through the motions.
      I'm a woodworker too. I come here to watch ToT make mistakes so I don't. At least that's the theory.

    • @docdoc
      @docdoc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PapiSmerf no doubt word of truth.

  • @dermozart80
    @dermozart80 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    I love the Ave Reference in your Dipol Radar Orthogonizer

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Haha My first thought too!! 😁

    • @The.Talent
      @The.Talent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That and the Subscribe cameos all over the place.

    • @pekkasaarinen2902
      @pekkasaarinen2902 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like the ALE readout too. Beer is my drug and lifts my soul.

    •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@pekkasaarinen2902 I also need a DRO that tells me when its ale time.

    • @shadowzedge5793
      @shadowzedge5793 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now to just watch AvEs next video for a TOT reference 🤣

  • @FliesLikeABrick
    @FliesLikeABrick 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    It looks like that .040 error came in when you made the skim cut at 22:00. You instinctively pulled the tool back before moving the carriage down the Z axis (to avoid dragging the tool), then told the DRO that the lathe was at X=1.882 still -- but you had already pulled it back to avoid dragging the tool.

    • @shawnhuk
      @shawnhuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      FliesLikeABrick - bingo

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      22:00 & 8 frames - well spotted :)

    • @FliesLikeABrick
      @FliesLikeABrick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@millomweb hah I still think about it sometimes, because in the next video he says he still can't see it when reviewing the video

    • @millomweb
      @millomweb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FliesLikeABrick It's them glasses he wears.

    • @SpookyMcGhee
      @SpookyMcGhee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean it's kinda second nature, ain't nobody got time for swirly marks on the parts 🤣🤣🤣

  • @exhempknight
    @exhempknight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    An augmentation of the tool offset library that I've implemented with my DRO (TouchDRO from Yuriy's Toys), is using the tools themselves as touch probes (only works with conductive materials).
    Basically, I've got an LED which uses the lathe itself as the path to ground. A power supply sends +5v to the LED, and is grounded to the lathe. The negative side of the LED has a springy wire (think phone cord) with a big alligator clip on the end. I then set about electrically insulated the tools themselves from their respective holders using thick paper.
    Now I can set a tool holder on the tool post, and clip on to the shank of the tool. When the tool touches the work, the LED lights up. It's been super handy in setting up workspaces, tool offsets, etc. It's also nice to be able to accurately pick up a surface without marring the part.

    • @rizalardiansyah4486
      @rizalardiansyah4486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Now that is a very nice hack, thanks for sharing this tips

  • @BradCozine
    @BradCozine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I added "Watches This Old Tony" to my online dating profile and my inbox is now jam packed, thanks This Old Tony... I'll call out your name in the heat of the moment.

  • @santiagodsl
    @santiagodsl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I've heard that if you are here early Tony likes your comment.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      LOVES your comment.

    • @ajbbbt
      @ajbbbt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Same if you comment on a comment he likes.

    • @glencoad737
      @glencoad737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I heard that if you never make a comment Tony uses his time travel machine to travel back in time to make sure your never born.

  • @luke.m
    @luke.m 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Tony,
    There is definitely some conversion shenanigans going on here. I would bet the microcontroller in your DRO is performing the metric conversion as you mention and then saving the converted number in the 'tool library' as a 16-bit floating point number. You are literally observing the precision of 16-bit numbers (base 2) as converted to decimal (base 10) on the display.
    Grabbing the last example from your video, you tried to enter 2.679. This somehow rounded down to 2.673. Through conversion math, you lost precision (at least twice) in the least significant bits of your significand.
    0.2678
    1 (1.) 0001001001 01101
    - 1x sign bit: 1
    - 10x significant bits (precision): 0001001001
    -- The first 1 before the binary-point (1.) is implicit in the format and practically provides 11-bits of precision in the significant.
    - 5x exponent bits: 01101
    0.2673
    1 (1.) 0001000111 01101
    - 10x significant bits (precision): 0001000111
    -- Really the only difference between these two numbers is the conversion rounded down twice, as observed in the least-significant bits of the significand
    If you want to play around with an online floating-point calculator, this one isn’t bad:
    weitz.de/ieee/
    Select your precision from the buttons at the bottom of the page.
    P.S. I just got back from vacation and the first thing I do while sipping coffee the next morning is catch up on your videos! Always a treat -- keep being classy!

    • @luke.m
      @luke.m 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just fixed up the examples (binary 1's and 0's only serve to make your eyes cross). Hopefully they are now mostly correct.
      Interestingly, if your DRO was smart enough to perform the conversion in a 32-bit floating point format before saving the actual 16-bit float in the library, this error would have been avoided (or at least reduced to a single round-down event).

    • @gabiold
      @gabiold 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luke.m Float is a bad choice here. Using just integers representing 0.1 micron resolution internally would be error-free. 1 thou (least significant digit in inch mode) would be 254 units, 1um (LSD in mm mode) would be 10 units. Convert the internal unit to the choosen display unit on-the-fly. No rounding error, no error accumulation, no matter how many times one press inc/abs or mm/inch conversion button.

  • @andrewplatt7795
    @andrewplatt7795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I cant stop laughing at this one. A DRO on your hand files!! 'Absolute' hilarious! Your vids are works of art. Thanks for bringing another one

    • @danielsauriol
      @danielsauriol 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would be really curious as to how much thoughts and planning is involved for the jokes of whether it comes fairly natural ..... At any rate, it's the result that matters and it's AMAZING !!!

  • @curm1778
    @curm1778 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I still maintain that your manicurist is a freakin' SAVAGE.

    • @FlyingDropBearAU
      @FlyingDropBearAU 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's Meatball.

    • @393strokedcoupe
      @393strokedcoupe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol! I'm bleeding if I try to cut mine shorter than the tip of my finger!

    • @dan27052
      @dan27052 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Manicure?? Am I watching Avon79 again?

    • @393strokedcoupe
      @393strokedcoupe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dan27052 Ooh, Adam's gonna getcha!

    • @Shaun.Stephens
      @Shaun.Stephens 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I could've sworn in one video Tony mentioned that he 'does his nails' with an angle grinder.
      [Edit: Or he might have mentioned that one of the many uses for an angle grinder was doing your nails - something like that, it was a while ago.]

  • @jeffglover7854
    @jeffglover7854 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Loved the rain forest gag. And I am working on not being one of the people, who doesn’t understand, Diameter ‘a la MODE. 🤔

  • @zanpekosak2383
    @zanpekosak2383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    So this is basically a very expensive pair of calipers welded at a 90° angle? Nice!

    • @ThomCat316
      @ThomCat316 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you think this is the expensive way, try pricing Mitutoyo digital calipers with the same measuring range!

    • @zanpekosak2383
      @zanpekosak2383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThomCat316 Yeah I know that! Ridiculus prices. Generally I was trying out some joking but othervise I realize the cost.

    • @ThomCat316
      @ThomCat316 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zanpekosak2383 - my next door neighbor, industrially speaking, has a one meter Mitutoyo vernier caliper. The thing is a beast!

    • @zanpekosak2383
      @zanpekosak2383 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThomCat316 Pretty darn cool!

  • @independentliberty9628
    @independentliberty9628 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Every time i'm out in nature i think of coolant streaming down the vice, and chips flying as a way to calm and relax myself.

    • @heyyou5189
      @heyyou5189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I keep expexcting to run into a wilderness machine shop or at least a wild lathe.

    • @vandyFixer
      @vandyFixer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It made me want to go for a wee.

    • @michaelg_839
      @michaelg_839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This part really cracked me up. 😂

    • @jimc3688
      @jimc3688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who lets those frogs in the shop ?

  • @lloyd4768
    @lloyd4768 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I watched the whole video...... and I'm going to stick to my abacus 😂😂

    • @ajl9491
      @ajl9491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ha ha....

    • @boboften9952
      @boboften9952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get modern just remove your shoes and socks to count higher than ten .

    • @turningpoint6643
      @turningpoint6643 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boboften9952 Actually that would involve removing your pants to get to eleventeen unless one offshoot of your family tree is part sloth. :-)

    • @boboften9952
      @boboften9952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Turning Point LoL . But the joke we used on our parents when asked to count higher than ten , was to hold both hands above your head counting eleven , twelve , thirteen , etc as you touched each finger accordingly . Got call a cheeky sh%t . When the family went grocery shopping I would be the human calculator add the dollar value minus the cents difference . Etc witn multiples .

    • @Archgeek0
      @Archgeek0 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boboften9952 I just count binary -- gets up to 1023 on both hands, though 4, 128, and 132 can be problematic in public. As a bonus, you can multiply and divide by powers of 2 by just scooting the radix about. 8 can be annoying to divide by, but if you publicly start making strange gestures and looking weirdly at your fingers then hlenching out the correct answer, people'll look at you like you're some kinda sorcerer.

  • @Mirandorl
    @Mirandorl 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Yep, the "another stinkin' thing I need" channel is back with another great video
    *comforts crying wallet*

    • @TomMakeHere
      @TomMakeHere 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truth right here!
      I'm still trying to find a way to justify getting a surface grinder

    • @boboften9952
      @boboften9952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      L M A O ps next time TOT uploads play safe use ear plugs and safety glasses . LOL

    • @MattOGormanSmith
      @MattOGormanSmith 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TommyGun. The obvious way is to ask all the local mechanics if they'd give you any business skimming cylinder heads.

  • @drubradley8821
    @drubradley8821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Also, make sure that the on-board battery, (example: CR-2032) is fresh, to give you the maximum years of memory in the DRO.... As my unit never shipped with a flat cell battery and before getting educated upon the depths of the DRO, I would simply turn the unit on, and do my thing, and when done, turn it off.... But, one day, I thought I would be clever, "as odd as that my sound, coming from me" and give addresses to all my lathe tools, and build a directory spread sheet, for quick reference, and stamp in a No. XXX into each tool holder... And spent about 8 hours in the learning curve, to do all this... Everything worked out great! and I shut my shop down for the night... And while in bed, thinking of a reason to make something I might need, so I can play the following day with my new found cleverness... I fired up the shop the following morning, got the supplies spread all over the work bench to things look important... And powered on the lathe, and in turn, the DRO, and it turned on as usual. I got out my freshly printed out laminated spear sheets, that I had on a key ring punch though hole, so that would look like I was a professional... "Ah, I need tool No.37, grabbed that from the toolbox drawer, plop it in the QCTP.... got to call up the tool in the address menue.... NOTHING!!!!!!!! I scanned for a couple others addressed tools, nothing as well... so I re-entered a tool for the giggles of this all... Seemed fine, added another addressed tool, and could scroll between those two... Longest boring story cut short, turned the unit off, and into gone... Carter around with that for hours... Luckily, I speak 4 different oriental language's, in addition to my native english, and called the manufacture... Tools them what issues I was having... With in 5 seconds of me telling them a 75 minute long novel of my issues, including the DRO issue, they mentioned that the sticker on the front stated I needed to install a flat cell battery.. They sicker was in Chinese, I said I speak Chinese, I don't read Chinese.... Their stickers now have multiple languages stating that a battery needs installed. I asked why no battery was installed and shipped in the units... Something to do with the lower shipping costs, if the unit doesn't contain lithium as a hazardous material and shelf life of the battery if sitting on a sales shelf of warehouse shelf???? Okay... there is my novel for the month, see you all next month.... Lol

    • @drubradley8821
      @drubradley8821 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also, on a side note... Being I had to open the units up, I added to each unit, an additional flat cell battery holder, soldered in parallel to the one that is soldered directly on to the PC board... So I can slap a new battery in, while changing out the old one, and not loose my info... I wonder if just leaving both battery installed, will allow a longer time of holding the memory, vs, the actual life of the battery, before they try and leak or vent onto the board and start the corrosion of the contacts??? I don't know, I just use one, and in time, (6 month to a year) will probe with a DMM and check the voltages ... For all I know, one battery may last 20 years? My equipment may be worn out before then????

    • @marcellemay7721
      @marcellemay7721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Huh...I didn't even know that my Chinese dro took a battery...I'll have to look into this. I've always just used the dro in absolute mode, take a cut, measure the diameter and enter it, then off I go. I don't think I could ever have enough faith in the thing to rely on it to save it's position in the tool library. I'm happy enough that it just tells me how close I am to my finished dimension.

    • @jimc3688
      @jimc3688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do any have a USB port to connect a laptop and use a proper user interface ?

    • @stefantrethan
      @stefantrethan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They make larger lithium cells, about AA size, that last 20+ years, if you can find the space.

    • @drubradley8821
      @drubradley8821 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimc3688 my cheaper units unfortunately do not have a USB, not even a serial port. Now, mine do have what one understands as a 1/8" phono-jack, like what folks use for head phones on the phones and iPods. .. And is for company use at the manufacture, and they wouldn't tell me what it is for other then them telling me to leave it alone, lol.. Okay, don't have to tell me twice!..lol

  • @practicalhands3720
    @practicalhands3720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    So desperate for a TOT video I started binge watching his old videos I had already watched

  • @RambozoClown
    @RambozoClown 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For extra credit, now you just need to figure out a use for that bolt circle function on a lathe.
    Meatball FTW!

  • @TomChame
    @TomChame 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video! My big problem with the DRO on my lathe is having to tip the whole machine onto the tailstock end to make Z move the right direction.

  • @AverageCitizen333
    @AverageCitizen333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The nature and water sounds had me dying! I love the sense of humor this channel has

  • @claeswikberg8958
    @claeswikberg8958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    2:00 awhhhh, i like you to Tony.

  • @0calvin
    @0calvin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Now I finally understand how Clickspring can be so precise with his hand filing - he must have a DRO on his files just like you.

    • @brianbutterfield9891
      @brianbutterfield9891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah, but you don't see any cords...they must be those fancy bluetooth scales.

    • @gusbisbal9803
      @gusbisbal9803 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do realise his name is Chris, he says so at the start. You Know "G'Day, Chris from click spring here"

  • @josephharling7107
    @josephharling7107 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    If you type AvE into the dro 3 times with the lights off it summons him

    • @HomebrewHorsepower
      @HomebrewHorsepower 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, his hands anyway

    • @COBRAWILLY05
      @COBRAWILLY05 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just make sure you do it right or it will summon the thing he keeps on his vise

    • @heyyou5189
      @heyyou5189 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Avoid that all he will do is complain.

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Per the Machinist's Black Book!

    • @richardhunter9995
      @richardhunter9995 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@COBRAWILLY05 Or worse you might get Dewclaw.

  • @vacuousvoid
    @vacuousvoid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am rather curious about the AvE setting, I suspect it's some kind of inverse reactive current for use in unilateral phase detractors that also allows automatic synchronisation of the cardinal grammeters. But its just a guess...

  • @timmymartin317
    @timmymartin317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I really had my hopes up for a dielectric resonance orbiter video. Maybe next time.

    • @ken481959
      @ken481959 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, you first have to get 5 flux capacitors from Ebay. One for each axis: X,Y,Z and one for forward and one for backward in Time, designated T- and T+. Make sure that you mount them correctly in the correct direction.

    • @timmymartin317
      @timmymartin317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah yeah, I’m well past that point. I was banking on This Old Tony to work out the trial and error on the RPM necessary for maximum resonance. The whole time travel thing really cuts down on R&D time.

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    1:38 I think your Lathe DRO has a Canadian virus.

  • @StLaparole
    @StLaparole 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You don´t make any sense to your cat.

  • @thefunkosaurus
    @thefunkosaurus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to watch ALL ToT videos at least twice!
    Stellar content!
    Anyone involved in ANYTHING on TH-cam can learn from this man!
    (writing, speaking, filming, editing, comedy, hell....probably even machining.)

  • @hussssshie
    @hussssshie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Tony never hearted me :(

    • @noisytim
      @noisytim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      How’s it feel to be a liar, now :p

    • @hussssshie
      @hussssshie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Now I'm complete :D

  • @britishfireworks
    @britishfireworks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi I have the exact same DRO as you but I’m having a problem with the HA button when I press it they boo instead of laugh any ideas what the problem is?

  • @mrtnsnp
    @mrtnsnp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Sorry, I wasn't listening on that last part. Looks like Meatball will be able to cut some steel soon with those nails.

    • @zolof911
      @zolof911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good cat - at 24:28 and 24:40 - no claws!

    • @mrtnsnp
      @mrtnsnp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zolof911Mostly, at 25:24 the hooks are certainly out.

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My God, you are such an excellent teacher; I completely (pretty much) understand. Can you teach me how a wife works?

  • @HuntersMoon78
    @HuntersMoon78 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've never been this early to one of your video's - I'm normally 6-12 months late.....Doh! or DRO!

  • @joepie221
    @joepie221 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the subliminal "Subscribe" placement. Always enjoy your videos, and I personally would have to swap the X and Y readouts. Mill mentality.

  • @jpgarcia90
    @jpgarcia90 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    dude the cutting fluid clips with those rainforest sounds in the back were simply genius. well done.

  • @mranderson2809
    @mranderson2809 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can i ask, what maniacs thumbs down videos like this?? Seriously, unless you dont like cats. That is the only genuine reason i can think.

  • @SirFlibbertyJibbit
    @SirFlibbertyJibbit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks Old Tony, I like you too
    Also with that dro can't you touch off on a known x and z as a reference point and input the offsets that way? I use XYZ lathes and I setup my tools like that.

  • @sherpajones
    @sherpajones 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:00 thanks buy you're not my type. We can be friends though.

  • @fellipec
    @fellipec 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    What? AvE DRO?

    • @plymouth-hl20ton37
      @plymouth-hl20ton37 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Luiz Fellipe Carneiro I thought I was the only one seeing that I accidentally thought I turned into AvE video by accident

    • @planejoxcrazyhorse7486
      @planejoxcrazyhorse7486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@plymouth-hl20ton37 Thatsw what it was i am sure go to AvE sight. Rated NC17 or Real Life shop talking ppl the real world channel just like this one only PG rated LOL

  • @PieroChan-cc2hd
    @PieroChan-cc2hd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for using our original SINO products. And that's a very good video, thank you.

  • @Henchman1977
    @Henchman1977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Not gonna lie, when I saw those finished tool holders, I got a raging semi!

    • @MadMaxx570
      @MadMaxx570 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So you found yourself in the same position as that guy in Duel? :O

    • @linkbond08
      @linkbond08 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You think that's impressive..
      I got a raging x-tra full!

    • @dncii3776
      @dncii3776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Isn’t a “raging semi” a bit of an oxymoron? You were completely medium stiff??? 😂😂

    • @linkbond08
      @linkbond08 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ajl9491 you don't get at least a semi you have no soul

    • @Leib33
      @Leib33 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dncii3776 When you reach a certain age sometimes semi is the highest extent of the scale

  • @scotte2815
    @scotte2815 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I put a 3 axis DRO on my framing hammer, … works great on vertical or horizontal surfaces such as walls, floors, and workbenches (I have not bent a nail in any of these situations since I installed the system)
    But, and this is a BIG BUTT …. totally useless on a roof or any other off-level/plumb surface

    • @boboften9952
      @boboften9952 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scott Elmore so if you put the reflective angle block under the tail end , the head end will nail at the appropriate angle . LOL . BUT AS SILLY AS THIS SOUNDS IT WAS WHAT I DID WHEN MAKING WOODEN SURFACES FLAT AT SPEED. I SET UP A JIG SO THAT THE REAR END WAS UP TO NAIL FLAT. ALL I HAD TO DO WAS PULL THE NEXT ONE ACROSS . LESS MOVEMENT LATERATELY EQUALS A HIGHER SPEED LITERATELY . P.S. I DO UNDERSTAND YOU ARE MAKING A JOKE .

  • @owainrichards4372
    @owainrichards4372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Liked video before it even starts we all know it’s going to be damn good

    • @ajl9491
      @ajl9491 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      goof

  • @codswallop.
    @codswallop. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i laughed way too hard, way too long, way more times than i’m willing to admit... and then i accidentally learned a bunch of stuff. thanks, tony!

  • @CorndogBrownie
    @CorndogBrownie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Hooray for MEATBALL

    • @jimc3688
      @jimc3688 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sassy cat 🐱

  • @framavia2201
    @framavia2201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting stuff - I have yet to explore those functions! I find mine useful these days as more bits come in with metric dimensions. I think it will also allow this kind of lathe to perform much more accurate time travel - In accordance with the Chinese lunar calendar I believe.

  • @madcapmagician6018
    @madcapmagician6018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    😮😮😮say it so ToT u got rid of your shaper!!!! 😪😪😪 you know bro now that you don't have it you gonna need it. lol

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've missed it quite a few times!

  • @uiomancannot7931
    @uiomancannot7931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm ashamed to admit the Ha button got me. I should've known better.

  • @thecarstudio9124
    @thecarstudio9124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This old tony. I dare you to make a quick change tool post.

    • @9Rollotomasi
      @9Rollotomasi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is that the same as a quick draw tool post? TOT, fastest toolslinger in the (insert cardinal direction here).

    • @gertskjlstrup1804
      @gertskjlstrup1804 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      that would be sooooo ToT. First item of my gift list!!!!!!

  • @gabevivas786
    @gabevivas786 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tony, I love your stuff!
    I hate to critique you, but I just have to mention that you skipped or missed a step when setting your ABS when you mic'd the part after your cut. This resulted in the 0.040" you said you were off in Tool 2.
    When you take a test cut to set the X ABS, it is CRITICAL you either do not move the cross slide in the X direction, or to go back to the proper coordinate before over-riding.
    When you were setting your X ABS when taking your cut on the part (21:59), you backed off (increased X) before you moved your tool in front of the part to mic it out. You did not move the tool back to the original coordinate when you over rode with the mic'd reading. Basically, you set the X ABS as 1.881", when your tool was actually in the 1.921" position.
    There are a couple ways to properly go about setting your X ABS:
    1) The easiest is to take the test cut, and then drag/rapid the tool back to the right (Z axis) and free from the part WITHOUT moving in the X direction. Then take your measurement and set the X ABS. Of course, you risk any damage in your tool by dragging it backwards this way, and cutting deeper due to tool pressure, giving an inaccuracy in your measurement.
    2) Set X ABS = 0 for your cut, move the tool away from the part and forward like you did, THEN move back into the original X position (X = 0). Then you can mic your part and input the proper coordinate as your X ABS.
    I absolutely love your channel Tony, its helped me become better at what I do. I hope you see this

  • @marscruz
    @marscruz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:36 -- AvE reveal... finally.
    7:36 -- Tony: "Son, you left the side door open again... Don't slam the door!" BANG

  • @Redmech80
    @Redmech80 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tony I like you also. This just got weird....

  • @NowAndyPlays
    @NowAndyPlays 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I miss the shaper, it sounded like the tardis :c

    • @berserk7111
      @berserk7111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought there was a fly on my screen and tried to scare it off with my cursor.

    • @NowAndyPlays
      @NowAndyPlays 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berserk7111 Ah yes, I am pure evil.

  • @AttilaAsztalos
    @AttilaAsztalos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm pretty sure my contract specifies I won't work on any heavy machinery that doesn't take G-code. That said, it's remarkable how heart-stopping it can be even on a small hobby desktop mill to realize you've off-handedly just issued "go to absolute X=20.0cm" except your machine is still in relative, and that's outside your table, and you don't have limit switches...

  • @scottcroonquist6574
    @scottcroonquist6574 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I was so happy to see a new video I hit like before playing

    • @ralphmills7322
      @ralphmills7322 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I played it but in my case I hit "like" even if I didn't understand it! I guess I'll have to wait until David Richards returns from winter quarters and starts up "Old Time Steam Powered Machine Shop" videos on youtube again!

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course, CTR means calculator...I should have stayed awake in Chinese class. So you are a machinist, is that what happened to your hand?
    It is really mangled...
    Attacked by danger cat.

  • @FesixGermany
    @FesixGermany 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's too late here, should go to bed but wait... new video from TOT (means "death" in German)

    • @hulkpeace
      @hulkpeace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It means "dead" 😉

    • @FesixGermany
      @FesixGermany 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does mean both.

    • @hulkpeace
      @hulkpeace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FesixGermany "Death" (Tod) is a noun, "dead" (tot) is an adjective. There's some slight difference.

    • @FesixGermany
      @FesixGermany 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man you're right, sorry I goofed in my own language.

    • @hulkpeace
      @hulkpeace 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FesixGermany No worries, you won't be the last one. ;-)

  • @cho4d
    @cho4d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "....all of which my lathe already had" ToT, you are the only youtuber who genuinely makes me laugh out loud. your humour is very dry and exceptionally well timed.

  • @Scriptease1
    @Scriptease1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loved the nature noise an dad jokes

  • @ottoleisering7855
    @ottoleisering7855 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OK, I got my degree in electrical engineering from SD State University. I seconded in relational calculus... you lost me in the third series of button pushes. My cat, unlike Meatball, is a Calico. According to the pet shop owner, if you abbreviate the breed name, she can do calculus. None of my parts fit, and the damned cat won't tell me why.

  • @anarchist_apples4781
    @anarchist_apples4781 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    And just like that there's my will to live again

  • @dointh4198
    @dointh4198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great as always. You competely convinced me to stick with my handwheels :)

  • @keine031
    @keine031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Use metric, as you said, it is 2019.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like to use tools, not be one.

  • @Metalbass10000
    @Metalbass10000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just don't EVER let your boss see you switching between absolute and incremental.
    That nonsense of changing the data you directly enter would drive me nuts. Do you have a data table with nose compensation? If that's conversion error that's awful. My son had less conversion error when he was in kindergarten.

  • @kyleflicker
    @kyleflicker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tony, will you be my Dad?

  • @jamesgibbs9043
    @jamesgibbs9043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HAW HAW HAW that National Geographic bit killed me you are a flippin genius

  • @nico.c97
    @nico.c97 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Cool video, DRO

  • @RANDALLOLOGY
    @RANDALLOLOGY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your DRO it gonna blow up!!
    At the first part of the video the display shows AVE, then shows ALE. We all know that AVE blows up, burns up and let's the Schmoo out while downing a few pints of ALE and spouting Canadian french. LMAO 😹😹😹
    All kidding aside I learned about all that extra shit the DRO has..
    I'm still laughing from those lil inserts you put in and special effects. Like Bruce Leeing that hunk of harden steel. .
    Keep em coming.

  • @AuditorsUnited
    @AuditorsUnited 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i just watched your threading video and thought to myself wow he must died or somthing .....and poof a video popped up ...the gods must be crazy

  • @pmgodfrey
    @pmgodfrey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't even have to watch it to give it a thumbs up, but I hang around anyway to watch it! :)
    This Old Tony could film a pot of coffee brewing and it would get thousands of thumbs. It's just great content!

    • @thetrevor861
      @thetrevor861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he really did that . . .

  • @deweys
    @deweys 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I want to have your babies Tony

    • @evilutionltd
      @evilutionltd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      deweys he probably wants to keep them himself.

    • @Leofred2000
      @Leofred2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Make your own

    • @ClockWorksIE
      @ClockWorksIE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Leofred2000 I hear you can mill them down from slightly larger babies.

    • @lazymouse636
      @lazymouse636 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Only t-shirts in his merchandise for now, you'll have to wait....

    • @ken481959
      @ken481959 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You making a casserole?

  • @davidtams1218
    @davidtams1218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Last night I fell asleep watching this.
    This morning I tried again.
    Nah you still lost me.
    Not that it’s not entertaining.
    Just way too complicated.
    Probably me getting too old for all this computerised stuff.

  • @clairekholin6935
    @clairekholin6935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have a few 2 mm chamfers in the corners of that box, and I am certain you left a few imperial chamfers where they fell under the lathe. . .

  • @mcyclonegt
    @mcyclonegt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is up with the AvE setting? It must be totally useless or doesn't do anything, or you would have mentioned it.

  • @StefanGotteswinter
    @StefanGotteswinter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AAAAH. The Sino has the same stupid "press button ten times" as my chinesium readout. I find the tooltable function absutely annoying.
    I just use a subdatum for each tool, way faster to set.

  • @douglasharley2440
    @douglasharley2440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:47 lol, you never fail to make me laugh *uproariously* in your videos! you are a youtube treasure, thanks for everything you do.

  • @poyakiani7883
    @poyakiani7883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey this old tony, those reading errors might be the universe telling you to use metric like the rest of us... :) !!

  • @1903A3shooter
    @1903A3shooter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun, I really like the cat. Wonder if she lives in the Absolute or Incremental cat world.

  • @thestonethatthebuilderrefu5231
    @thestonethatthebuilderrefu5231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should always have the cat attacking your hands while you're explaining stuff

  • @EdwinvandenAkker
    @EdwinvandenAkker 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People call me a *Tool* every time I mess up...

  • @snaprollinpitts
    @snaprollinpitts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at 17:25 and that's why I'm not a machinist, but I still love your videos!!! thanks Tony mike

  • @jack_drums
    @jack_drums 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooooh this lights up my day.
    Even if it's night here
    Greetings from Italy
    TH-cam nowadays, also good for postcards

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For years I had all my favorite tool shims. I so wish these holders were avail when I wasn't retired. Neat post bud ! A dro wasn't aval to me in many years of machining. I think it kept my noggin in gear without it. All my pieces turned out anyways without it.

  • @FredMiller
    @FredMiller 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the video and the explanations, not so much the imperial-metric wonkieness! Makes my eye twitch just thinking about it!

  • @Gl1kk3r
    @Gl1kk3r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe the plural of 'subdatum' is 'subdata'. Also, all CPU registers are of limited size (usually 32 or 64 bits) which means you get a limited number of significant digits worth of precision. Also, there's a conversion to/from binary, which can result in rounding errors in decimals.

  • @jusrobington
    @jusrobington 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Somebody was/is a street fighter fan. 😁
    Tony's videos always make me laugh.

  • @KA4UPW
    @KA4UPW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My brain hurts..
    Ill come back when i learn the power switch

  • @thecogwheel
    @thecogwheel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you sold your shaper? Stefan, and now you? Isn't there some law in the universe that a home shop machinist can't sell a shaper or something? I'm still be dragged kicking and screaming to a DRO on my lathe. I'm still fighting it. Great video as always!