Maashaa Allaah! This channel is a novelty in providing us with enhanced Islamic knowledge we did not know existed till we started watching Professor Gabriel and his guests explaining the many "nuances" that are part of understanding the message of Islam coming to us over the past 1443 years of tradition of our faith.
From the Document on Human Fraternity mentioned in this discussion: Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept.
46:55 --- I met buya HAMKA three times. Once, on the 1977 Muhammadiyah post-Ed-AL-Fitr (Halal Bilhalal) celebration. Second, at his home in Kebayoran Baru in the late 1970s. And last time, on a speech in Salman Mosque (ITB) Bandung. When he died on FRIDAY, 24 July 1981, Salat al-Gha'ib was performed in most Indonesian Mosques after the Friday prayer. Compared to "Ibn-Katsir," his "Tafsir Al-Azhar" Quran interpretation is much easier to understand.
Did I miss it, but did they ever mention abrogation? They alluded to the Mecca/Medina tone change, but if I missed them talking directly about abrogation, please put the time mark in here for me.
Of course they don't mention abrogation as it would clearly debunk the n𝜊nsense - the later (in time) non-cancelled verses are extremely hat𝜀ful & int𝜊lerant of other religions.
@@endpc5166 True. They hem and hawed around Mecca and Medina and alluded to a shift change, but it did not address the stated position of how Muslims view the sword verses as abrogating the prior peaceful verses. But that is more about Sharia methodology which Muslims will not talk about as it is the state secret not to share with outsiders.
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 Sharia was intended to be s𝜀cret to non-Muslims as it's not just about how Muslims must behave, it's also about how Muslims are to behave with free non-Muslims and how to treat non-Muslims under Muslim c𝜊ntrol per Q 9:29 - it a𝜄n't friendly. To learn more about the stunn𝜄ngly h𝜊rrid Sharia s𝜀𝜀 the YT v𝜄ds of Jay Smith or Al Fadi in discussions with Sharia expert Lloyd De Jongh .
This is unacademic and misread the Qur'an. Reading a verse in isolation is not the correct way to read the Quran. Each Ayah in the Quran is part of the story narrative and often contains multiple speeches in one Ayah. You are not doing justice to this unique piece of literature.
I see two people mainly avoiding to discuss the quranic verses honestly and their (traditional Hadith) context. Maybe 7 minutes of the 70 minutes discussion where concerned with the quranic text itself 🙄 Please analyze the text without bias, wishful thinking and without your 21st century notion what should be...
Historical-critical scholars do not read the Quran through the lens of the later Hadith tradition, which is a product of a much different and post-Prophetic environment.
Ayah 9:29 is never given its context of 9:28. The solution for losing money from pagan pilgrimage is resolved by fighting and coercing money from other faiths. Other faiths who were once called allies.
Indeed! I also ask myself why anyone would choose to become a Muslim after reading Q. 9:111; whereby it is apparently the duty of a Muslim to kill and be killed!
@@gavinjames1145 Well, if you were promised booty if you win and live and hoories if you die, it appeals to the base desires of humanity. Either way, Muhammad promised a good time and if you were with the currently winning team, it offered an incentive.
@@chrisazure1624 Surah 9 is the one of the LAST Medinan Surahs. So up until Surah 9 was revealed, Muhammad got a huge following because something something Hoors and something something bullying? Man, I wish I was as smart as you white European femboys. .
Could you please do an episode on why it's wrong to use the term mohammadan to describe Muslim's. In some countries there's a push to use the term mohammadans rather than Muslim's to describe followers of Islam. People I've met from that country seem to accept it's OK.
Muslims submit to their scholars: _Qur'an_ interpreted through _tafsir_ abrogated by _ahadith_ superceded by _Shari'a_ (as defined by an elitist group of men).
@@gavinjames1145 I don't agree about submitting to the scholars, not your assumption as to why it may be happening amongst some, there's some truth to that, it's called monetisation of religion in every religion.
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Maashaa Allaah! This channel is a novelty in providing us with enhanced Islamic knowledge we did not know existed till we started watching Professor Gabriel and his guests explaining the many "nuances" that are part of understanding the message of Islam coming to us over the past 1443 years of tradition of our faith.
Yo! Professors. We must absolutely get a list of books displayed on your program + where to buy (outside amazon). Muchas Gracias.
From the Document on Human Fraternity mentioned in this discussion:
Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept.
I love your channel!
Love your T-shirt prof ... and the content, of course ... selamat beristirehat... udah waktu malam di sini
Love the username
Were the iqsa presentations recorded and if so will they be uploaded?
46:55 --- I met buya HAMKA three times. Once, on the 1977 Muhammadiyah post-Ed-AL-Fitr (Halal Bilhalal) celebration. Second, at his home in Kebayoran Baru in the late 1970s. And last time, on a speech in Salman Mosque (ITB) Bandung. When he died on FRIDAY, 24 July 1981, Salat al-Gha'ib was performed in most Indonesian Mosques after the Friday prayer.
Compared to "Ibn-Katsir," his "Tafsir Al-Azhar" Quran interpretation is much easier to understand.
Good argument for a more tolerant voice in the Quran in the later period.
I'm getting the book but come-on $170 is not what I would immediately describe as "reasonable" lol
Love to see mr. Sirry & Mr. Christian Prince. Its the biggest draws - will it happens?
Get Meir bar Asher on the channel to discuss Jews and the Qur’an.
Did I miss it, but did they ever mention abrogation? They alluded to the Mecca/Medina tone change, but if I missed them talking directly about abrogation, please put the time mark in here for me.
I didn't hear it either, but I may have slipped past me. It was not discussed in detail if it was.
I can't point to a spot where it was openly discussed. It seems like a missed opportunity to get clarity about how it is applied in Islam.
Of course they don't mention abrogation as it would clearly debunk the n𝜊nsense - the later (in time) non-cancelled verses are extremely hat𝜀ful & int𝜊lerant of other religions.
@@endpc5166 True. They hem and hawed around Mecca and Medina and alluded to a shift change, but it did not address the stated position of how Muslims view the sword verses as abrogating the prior peaceful verses. But that is more about Sharia methodology which Muslims will not talk about as it is the state secret not to share with outsiders.
@@charlesmuhmanson3928 Sharia was intended to be s𝜀cret to non-Muslims as it's not just about how Muslims must behave, it's also about how Muslims are to behave with free non-Muslims and how to treat non-Muslims under Muslim c𝜊ntrol per Q 9:29 - it a𝜄n't friendly.
To learn more about the stunn𝜄ngly h𝜊rrid Sharia s𝜀𝜀 the YT v𝜄ds of Jay Smith or Al Fadi in discussions with Sharia expert Lloyd De Jongh .
Mestinya ada subtitle-nya. 🙈
I used to say the Quran is a anti religion book
I left religion though now. I love the gods and goddesses. My truth
This is unacademic and misread the Qur'an. Reading a verse in isolation is not the correct way to read the Quran. Each Ayah in the Quran is part of the story narrative and often contains multiple speeches in one Ayah. You are not doing justice to this unique piece of literature.
I see two people mainly avoiding to discuss the quranic verses honestly and their (traditional Hadith) context. Maybe 7 minutes of the 70 minutes discussion where concerned with the quranic text itself 🙄 Please analyze the text without bias, wishful thinking and without your 21st century notion what should be...
Historical-critical scholars do not read the Quran through the lens of the later Hadith tradition, which is a product of a much different and post-Prophetic environment.
Ayah 9:29 is never given its context of 9:28. The solution for losing money from pagan pilgrimage is resolved by fighting and coercing money from other faiths. Other faiths who were once called allies.
Indeed!
I also ask myself why anyone would choose to become a Muslim after reading Q. 9:111; whereby it is apparently the duty of a Muslim to kill and be killed!
@@gavinjames1145 Well, if you were promised booty if you win and live and hoories if you die, it appeals to the base desires of humanity. Either way, Muhammad promised a good time and if you were with the currently winning team, it offered an incentive.
@@chrisazure1624 yeah, Arabs from all walks of life believed in Muhammad because Hoors. If only they were as smart as white Europeans.
@@arefinkamal7654 Don't forget the incentive to live and believe a bully prophet. As 9:29 shows, convert, die or pay extortion money.
@@chrisazure1624 Surah 9 is the one of the LAST Medinan Surahs. So up until Surah 9 was revealed, Muhammad got a huge following because something something Hoors and something something bullying? Man, I wish I was as smart as you white European femboys. .
Could you please do an episode on why it's wrong to use the term mohammadan to describe Muslim's.
In some countries there's a push to use the term mohammadans rather than Muslim's to describe followers of Islam.
People I've met from that country seem to accept it's OK.
Muslims submit to their scholars:
_Qur'an_ interpreted through _tafsir_ abrogated by _ahadith_ superceded by _Shari'a_ (as defined by an elitist group of men).
@@gavinjames1145 how's this relevant to my query?
Plus I don't agree but since it's not relevant I don't really care.
@@gavinjames1145 I don't agree about submitting to the scholars, not your assumption as to why it may be happening amongst some, there's some truth to that, it's called monetisation of religion in every religion.
@@youknow6968 It's more political than financial: power over the people.
@@gavinjames1145 political power comes with financial power, the interrelationship is too strong. Finance is at the heart of all power.