Seriously, I don't think even the inklings of what he was to pursue so much later, would have occurred to him here. The circumstances of his turning, was an accumulation of events over time, yes, but none of them had taken place by this early juncture.
Never realized how much of a game changer this scene was for the show and for television. Usually Lee would have gotten away with it for stepping out of line but instead is brought down with Roslin. Fantastic writing and character development
Hogan got Tigh _RIGHT_ in this scene, dammit! He is *_loyal_* to Adama to a *fault* & takes what the president did as a personal _affront!_ Look at the _contempt_ in his face in that last scene.
The moment admiral Adama heard about the press's presence, he knew he fell into Roslin's trap. Because even if he does manage to arrest Roslin, the whole fleet would know. And to the civilians, it would appear that he is staging a coup in response to Roslin's actions, which was in the greater interest of the humanity, which is mostly made up of civilians. That's why he just hung up.
It... was not tho. Martial law as well as relieving a standing president after a grave mistake, which she did, isn't "attempting a coup". If anything Apollo tried a coup here, not the military.
Léandre the military is not allowed to remove a present in a working democracy removal of a president is down to the electorate or other branches of government.
@@alexbennett7018 if I remember correctly martial law can be declared by the standing military of the country if the government in place is not capable of protecting the country/it's peoples. Effectively removing the president power. Might differs from country to country but in that case, making a extremely dangerous operation that can make the whole race, not just country die is justified enough to apply here.
@@alexbennett7018 "Working democracy". Lee put it very well in the Baltar trial - they weren't a civilization anymore, but rather a gang of 50 000 people.
Is it mutiny? Even if Roslin's decisions had been illegal (it wasn't), it's not the place of the military to remove her from office. That should be a civilian matter. "There's a reason we separate the military and the police, one fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people." - Some wise old Battlestar commander .
@@avae5343 Exactly why this is one of the few moments where Adama failed. The chain of command ends with her, the commander in chief. If there is a military decision to be made and there is a difference of opinion her word is law, and Adama must fall in line.
Well, in real life, people go against their principles all the time. This show usually was good at capturing such moments, often with reasonable contexts. Tell me: would you _under any circumstances_ sit back and watch people steal from your family, pollute your children's drinking water or threaten them? You do it every day. But I don't know what your principles are, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Adama and Roslin, years later in their rocking chairs: Remember that time you thought you were space Moses and I lead a military coup and my son screwed it up and then I put him in charge of a Battlestar and then he took over the black market and then we gave you cylon blood to cure cancer and then Baltar got elected President and Col. Tigh turned out to be a cylon? Good times.
It's with scenes like these that you'd get some idea of just how large the "CIC" set was, not only that, but that is was a complete structure with all of the interior being one massive room. (as in, not say 1/2 decor with cameras always pointing one direction)
Yet another brilliantly written, brilliantly written scene in a show that was positively rife with them. We will never see a show quite like this again.
It is not brilliantly written. It is terribly written. Roslin is not the President of the Colonies. The Colonies do not exist. The press here is pointless because Galactica is the only surviving warship. Warship is the key term there.
Disagree, The President is Commander in Chief of the military, same as in the US, if she gave an order, Thrace could do nothing but obey it. It wasn't criminal, it was totally legal, and Bill Adama, as much as I admire him, initiated an illegal Coup and overthrew the duly sworn President.
@@ignaciomartinez8501 I dont know man... by that logic your country´s military leaders would have the right to dethrone your government as soon as they detect a lie.... I think no country with a military could sustain its government for 10minutes like that
Law Dorherty The Expanse is fantastic, blew my mind and I’m glad there’s a show that captures our attention like BSG did again, looking forward to season 5!
Welp that's the show in a nutshell, minus the pew pew. I like how EVERYONE was wrong in this scenario. Though roslin was right because plot. Roslin breaks trust with Adama, Adama initiates illegal coup, lee mutinies which causes roslin to give up in seconds. 5 straight minutes of tension and no pew pew.
Love how Roslin throws in the towel seconds after Lee stands up for her. It's a reach, i know, but i wonder if some of that came up again at Baltars trial.
I'd be pissed if I was Lee Adama. Roslin refused to stand down right up until Lee jumped to her defence, then she instantly folded. He got in trouble for nothing.
Appreciate how Commander Adama pulls stunts like this, and then becomes all high and mighty, and mutinies, because Admiral Cain doesnt give a fair trial to his men.
This scene is a brilliantly executed spiral of one bad decision after another by first roslin and then adama and then Lee that nearly ends up in a massed slaughter aboard colonial one. W3hicvch is only averted by Roslin realising the error of her first mistake and surrendering to avoid bloodshed.
Roslin was right in the end like always even from the beginning when Adama would have just got his ship destroyed and ended human life.. Love how tough she is and what an amazing character she was.
I just really hate that woman. Snarki, holds grudges and is willing to compromise her principles to get what she wants. In the end she got off way too easy.
@@TheIcelandicBoy Only a fool never challenges their own preconceptions. This goes double if the survival of an entire species on the line. Though you make an important point, "her" I have a nagging suspicion we may have found the root of the issue.
I really appreciate in this scene the president has an independent protection division outside of the military.. you see in later episodes and seasons that a marine detachment accompanies her which is a good thought that she’d be under protection but seeing as tho throughout the series military and civilian government were not always on par it made little sense to me the president would have marines as her primary protection when they ultimately answer to Adama..
It’s always interesting to me, that no matter how many times I watch this series thru and thru that at this moment I (as I did the first viewing) want to take Adama’s side but if it wasn’t for Roslin’s decision here that Sam would’ve never be found and thus earth would’ve never been reached..
Roslin is probably my least favorite character, but in this instance I'm with her 100%. The president doesn't take orders from the military; the military takes orders from the president. This was a military coup and Adama is a fascist.
Man, I loved this show back in the day. So many great characters and episodes. Pity about the ending mind you. Bit like Game of Thrones in that department. In my head cannon Lee is gently restrained after he advocates half of all future children dying before five, woman losing control of their fertility, mass starvation and the general collapse of all the cushions that prevent life being nasty, brutish and short, and they found a mythical city like Atlantis or something. Then some other follow up story could be made set thousands of years later as to how that place became us. But no, ships into the sun it is.
@@johnford5568 A commander should have a say, over the commands of the president? A commander who initiated the war in the first place. The commander and all the fraking authorities started the war in the first place: first turning against the madam president, then both - the commander and the madam president - joined to put their own false on Dr. Guias and even tried to execute him for treason. They all might be better to be put behind the wall if not in the airlock.
To be fair I don't think what Adama said was problematic at all. She DID all that VERY dangerous and questionable acts against her military advisors during military operation, and the only military force they have left. Even if they heard every conversation they had so what, it is clear that it gave him no option other than push her away from seat of power. Only thing that kept her in power during this dire time was Adama thought it was best thing to do for the people. If she does indeed pose a military threat to the people, he should remove her and do a new election.
I love the series, but it's always been difficult for me to believe roslin and adama who are realists, would give serious weight to things like religion and prophecy. In Gaius' trial, she's talking about visions like they are matter of fact and people should believe her without question, never acknowledging how crazy it all sounds.
Part of the series' purpose was as a commentary and retrospective on US foreign policy and military/political climate following 9/11. A particularly surreal and disturbing aspect of that climate was it being charged with religious sentiment on both sides; more generally, American and Middle Eastern cultures are steeped in religious belief and tradition which is taken surprisingly seriously and literally in times of stress or conflict. Atheist and secular US citizens try not to examine this too closely, because it's so uncomfortable and un-modern. But it's there. Evolutionary psychology, anthropology and sociobiology offer straightforward explanations for why we aren't rid of religious fervour and irrational beliefs, despite being otherwise very intellectually developed: we're hardwired to have a predisposition towards religious and mystical thinking, because it served a vital role in facilitating the development of human co-operation networks and civilizations. The people in BSG are in a fictional future/past setting, but they are still very identifiably humans just like us, with close cultural, psychological and philosophical proximities to us. It follows that wherever humans went in the future, they would take this unfortunate evolutionary baggage with them, even to the stars. One of the most interesting and under-appreciated themes the show explored is what would happen to this inappropriate and dislocated instinct in the distinctly rational and atheistic setting of a technological spacefaring culture. We cannot suppose that it would disappear; all available evidence suggests that wherever we go, the religious impulse will latch onto whatever is available to articulate itself anew.
The president made a bad decision to circumvent the agreement. She forced Adama into a situation where he had no good option. Lee was acting according to what he thought right, but executed that poorly. All this under the backdrop of the survivors of Humanity cooped up in spaceships fleeing an enemy. Tough situation.
The one thing I loved about this show is it deals on everyday real life issues but I doubt trump would take a new born baby from its parents hours after it's birth personally she should have suffered for that sin
I found this Apollo to be the most annoying and least loyal character of the show. I'm sure it took a lot for Tigh not to turn around and shoot him knowing that he's his best friend only son.
I really like Tigh as a character. He has a very stable conviction and ability to operate under pressure right up until the part he start to hear music in the walls. Never have I seen a character so strong making such difficult decisions before (such as jettisoning crew out to save fuel lines) and performs so well and balanced. Imo Adama couldnt have done half the things he could do without Tigh on his side.
Apollo is loyal to justice - and its the other characters that find themselves on the wrong side of that from time to time. He's a great character, but not for everyone
@@errhka Exactly. He follows his conscience and what he believes is just, and he's completely right in this instance and in most of the cases when he defies authority like this. Shame he's under appreciated.
@@dreamer2260 - My problem with Apollo is that he follows his conscience and what he believes is right under any circumstances and he forgets that it doesn't just cost him, but everyone around him.
There is such a thing of crossing the line. We are seeing it being played out in real life. It has to do with and inside our own government. Watch what happens after November 3rd and if it doesn't happen then. Watch what happens in April od 2021. This one episode was very intense and deals with the human race survival. What is happening today. Deals with the survival of our country.
@@markcrenshaw9562 Biden won fair and square, and Trump is suing only blue counties, and tried to stop the *first* vote count. So yeah. I'd be more worried about Trump trying to illegally retain power.
It always amuses me when Americans think they are the world. You are one country, a fairly powerful one which will soon lose its superpower status. So sit down, you're not the only one that matters.
@@The_Daily_Tomato You think in one dimential. To honestly think our country will fall in support of a far different one. We don't bow to government. But unto God. My thoughts on this is when government tries to impose its will on another. It won't happen here. We didn't fought a war more than 250 years ago to end up in this situation that I have seen coming.
2:57
Adama: stages a coup
Gaeta: observes attentively
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Seriously, I don't think even the inklings of what he was to pursue so much later, would have occurred to him here. The circumstances of his turning, was an accumulation of events over time, yes, but none of them had taken place by this early juncture.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 I know. It's just a funny observation in hindsight.
*Felix will remember that*
@@Ved000000 I get that reference!
Never realized how much of a game changer this scene was for the show and for television. Usually Lee would have gotten away with it for stepping out of line but instead is brought down with Roslin. Fantastic writing and character development
A game changer for television. How so?
Hogan got Tigh _RIGHT_ in this scene, dammit! He is *_loyal_* to Adama to a *fault* & takes what the president did as a personal _affront!_
Look at the _contempt_ in his face in that last scene.
“You're nothing without your daddy”.
Lee had his father Adama instinct. He smelled a Cylon . He stopped the cylon
The moment admiral Adama heard about the press's presence, he knew he fell into Roslin's trap. Because even if he does manage to arrest Roslin, the whole fleet would know. And to the civilians, it would appear that he is staging a coup in response to Roslin's actions, which was in the greater interest of the humanity, which is mostly made up of civilians. That's why he just hung up.
Yep BUSTED.
Not just appear.
I love how Adama gets shocked when he hears that the press are on-board XD
I bet he was thinking, couldn't you have surrendered before I committed mutiny? I'm definitely changing my vote this coming election!
"This is mutiny" says the officer attempting a coup.
It... was not tho. Martial law as well as relieving a standing president after a grave mistake, which she did, isn't "attempting a coup". If anything Apollo tried a coup here, not the military.
Léandre the military is not allowed to remove a present in a working democracy removal of a president is down to the electorate or other branches of government.
@@alexbennett7018 if I remember correctly martial law can be declared by the standing military of the country if the government in place is not capable of protecting the country/it's peoples.
Effectively removing the president power.
Might differs from country to country but in that case, making a extremely dangerous operation that can make the whole race, not just country die is justified enough to apply here.
@@ONW4V3R it's legally gray
@@alexbennett7018 "Working democracy". Lee put it very well in the Baltar trial - they weren't a civilization anymore, but rather a gang of 50 000 people.
Saul Tigh with the mad eyes.
yes, both of them ... haha
Got a few guns pointed to his face in his life, i reckon.
She's lucky she did that on Adama; not Cain.
Never would have even gotten to office. :)
Cain would have just blown up the ship
“That’s big talk coming from someone within flak barraging distance.”
Cain the psychopath would have personally blown Roslin's head off without blinking.
Cain would've just jumped without them
This Series is so good, one of the best when not the best sci-fi series in history
Is it mutiny? Even if Roslin's decisions had been illegal (it wasn't), it's not the place of the military to remove her from office. That should be a civilian matter.
"There's a reason we separate the military and the police, one fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people." - Some wise old Battlestar commander .
@@avae5343 Exactly why this is one of the few moments where Adama failed. The chain of command ends with her, the commander in chief. If there is a military decision to be made and there is a difference of opinion her word is law, and Adama must fall in line.
That look on Tighs face when Apollo pulls his gun.
There is no police force anymore
Well, in real life, people go against their principles all the time. This show usually was good at capturing such moments, often with reasonable contexts.
Tell me: would you _under any circumstances_ sit back and watch people steal from your family, pollute your children's drinking water or threaten them? You do it every day.
But I don't know what your principles are, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Which episode was this on!?
All these years later in the writing on this show especially in the early is so much better than anything today.
The Expanse is GOOD !!!!!!!
Except the Expanse.
Oh yeah. BSG is still champ.
@@Shadowkey392 Yeah - BSG spawned a new kind of scifi series - and Expanse puts it into high gear.
@@thomasb7464 how to believe that most shows sucks ! BSG was so special !
Adama and Roslin, years later in their rocking chairs:
Remember that time you thought you were space Moses and I lead a military coup and my son screwed it up and then I put him in charge of a Battlestar and then he took over the black market and then we gave you cylon blood to cure cancer and then Baltar got elected President and Col. Tigh turned out to be a cylon? Good times.
It's with scenes like these that you'd get some idea of just how large the "CIC" set was, not only that, but that is was a complete structure with all of the interior being one massive room. (as in, not say 1/2 decor with cameras always pointing one direction)
My regards to Michael Hogan that he has a speedy recovery.
So say we all!
Ending of season 1 was some of the best writing for a TV show ever.
Yet another brilliantly written, brilliantly written scene in a show that was positively rife with them. We will never see a show quite like this again.
It is not brilliantly written. It is terribly written. Roslin is not the President of the Colonies. The Colonies do not exist. The press here is pointless because Galactica is the only surviving warship. Warship is the key term there.
Lee, once again showing he's the conscience of the fleet.
I think helo was more the conscience of the fleet lee was more self righteous
You can’t scare Saul with a gun. He just downloads to new body and gets even angrier
Welp, apparently flooding my TH-cam algorithm was enough to get me to download the Peacock app. Well played.
I just watched this show a couple months ago and all these clips are making me wanna watch it again... Lmao
It's still very timely. We're about to watch the Trial of Gaius Baltar in real time.
Personally both Adama and Roslin crossed the line not the last time they do this
if by Adama you mean Lee you are correct
Disagree, The President is Commander in Chief of the military, same as in the US, if she gave an order, Thrace could do nothing but obey it. It wasn't criminal, it was totally legal, and Bill Adama, as much as I admire him, initiated an illegal Coup and overthrew the duly sworn President.
@@ignaciomartinez8501
I dont know man... by that logic your country´s military leaders would have the right to dethrone your government as soon as they detect a lie.... I think no country with a military could sustain its government for 10minutes like that
@@TheCaptainCrack they don't have the right, they have the duty. it was not only a lie it was the first of Roslin's tyrannical acts on the show.
@@ignaciomartinez8501
So if youre an american soldier its your duty to check if Trump states the truth? And if not you go for the Coup?
The pinnacle of space sci fi
Law Dorherty The Expanse is fantastic, blew my mind and I’m glad there’s a show that captures our attention like BSG did again, looking forward to season 5!
lol Lee is like ok maybe you could have surrendered before I pointed my gun at my superior officers head??
Thank you Ronald Moore. We need More!!
Welp that's the show in a nutshell, minus the pew pew. I like how EVERYONE was wrong in this scenario. Though roslin was right because plot. Roslin breaks trust with Adama, Adama initiates illegal coup, lee mutinies which causes roslin to give up in seconds. 5 straight minutes of tension and no pew pew.
Love how Roslin throws in the towel seconds after Lee stands up for her. It's a reach, i know, but i wonder if some of that came up again at Baltars trial.
Lee got fucked over in that scene.
I'd be pissed if I was Lee Adama. Roslin refused to stand down right up until Lee jumped to her defence, then she instantly folded. He got in trouble for nothing.
And now I'm on a battlestar marathon...
I love how much control she has and integrity😊
That's okay. I guess Canada doesn't need Peacock. Someday I'll watch the full series beginning to end.
Appreciate how Commander Adama pulls stunts like this, and then becomes all high and mighty, and mutinies, because Admiral Cain doesnt give a fair trial to his men.
4:15: Colonel Tigh to Apollo drawing a gun at him: This is mutiny, you know that!
Irony meter rising rapidly...
Lee thinking, you couldn't of done that 10 seconds ago.....
I subscribed to Peacock just for this!
This scene is a brilliantly executed spiral of one bad decision after another by first roslin and then adama and then Lee that nearly ends up in a massed slaughter aboard colonial one. W3hicvch is only averted by Roslin realising the error of her first mistake and surrendering to avoid bloodshed.
Roslin was right in the end like always even from the beginning when Adama would have just got his ship destroyed and ended human life.. Love how tough she is and what an amazing character she was.
I just really hate that woman. Snarki, holds grudges and is willing to compromise her principles to get what she wants. In the end she got off way too easy.
@@TheIcelandicBoy I have to agree to a point(personaly i loat her). She is complicated. But i think that is the point.
@@TheIcelandicBoy I love that "willing to compromise" is seen as a bad trait.
@@elonwhatever "willing to comprimise her principles." You forgot those last 2 words that are kinda important XD
@@TheIcelandicBoy Only a fool never challenges their own preconceptions. This goes double if the survival of an entire species on the line.
Though you make an important point, "her" I have a nagging suspicion we may have found the root of the issue.
So Roslyn and the press are all on one ship……
…… gee it would be a shame if something happened to that ship. 🤣
Stage a "Cylon attack" 😂
What a show!!
Roslin is so lucky its Adama and not Cain
I really appreciate in this scene the president has an independent protection division outside of the military.. you see in later episodes and seasons that a marine detachment accompanies her which is a good thought that she’d be under protection but seeing as tho throughout the series military and civilian government were not always on par it made little sense to me the president would have marines as her primary protection when they ultimately answer to Adama..
Cant belive thats the same president that wont safe us from an incoming meteorite 😂
It’s always interesting to me, that no matter how many times I watch this series thru and thru that at this moment I (as I did the first viewing) want to take Adama’s side but if it wasn’t for Roslin’s decision here that Sam would’ve never be found and thus earth would’ve never been reached..
Michael Hogan's acting was really great in this.
Shows so fracking good
Was Tigh really the best person to be put in charge of this operation? Steady nerves are not exactly his thing
Roslin is probably my least favorite character, but in this instance I'm with her 100%. The president doesn't take orders from the military; the military takes orders from the president. This was a military coup and Adama is a fascist.
Man, I loved this show back in the day. So many great characters and episodes. Pity about the ending mind you. Bit like Game of Thrones in that department. In my head cannon Lee is gently restrained after he advocates half of all future children dying before five, woman losing control of their fertility, mass starvation and the general collapse of all the cushions that prevent life being nasty, brutish and short, and they found a mythical city like Atlantis or something. Then some other follow up story could be made set thousands of years later as to how that place became us. But no, ships into the sun it is.
Is funny how the 'Colonial One' presidential spaceship is painted in the same colors as the US Air force One 😆
Not sure Saul had much of a leg to stand on. A military coup v a mutiny
What did the president put in pocket right before the praying started?
This was a fking Wild part of the show lol
TH-cam can you please play the whole segment
Adama needed to run the fleet not some school teacher. They’re at war. She wasn’t qualified to make the decisions necessary to survive.
2:10 Clumsy audio edit on the word "Minute" there
What was clumsy about it
@@cesarcueto1995 Wear heaphones, the word "Minute" has entirely differant accoustics than the rest of her sentance, it was obviously dubbed in later
@@ShasOSwoll if you have to wear headphones to notice it then it's not as obvious as you think it is
Great scene.
Before there was Trump, there was Adama and Tigh.
Who was the casting director? Because they ALL the right decisions
You can look on Tigan face. That was easy,What are you up to the maid president
Wow,
A fraking admiral removes a president from the office.
Fraking wow!
Even worse, at this time he was just Commander.
Imagine all that's left of the US is an aircraft carrier group and some transports, yea, the commander would have some say.
@@johnford5568
A commander should have a say, over the commands of the president?
A commander who initiated the war in the first place.
The commander and all the fraking authorities started the war in the first place: first turning against the madam president, then both - the commander and the madam president - joined to put their own false on Dr. Guias and even tried to execute him for treason.
They all might be better to be put behind the wall if not in the airlock.
To be fair I don't think what Adama said was problematic at all. She DID all that VERY dangerous and questionable acts against her military advisors during military operation, and the only military force they have left. Even if they heard every conversation they had so what, it is clear that it gave him no option other than push her away from seat of power. Only thing that kept her in power during this dire time was Adama thought it was best thing to do for the people. If she does indeed pose a military threat to the people, he should remove her and do a new election.
Juicy.
You can look at sail
When he take the president that was to easy
Roslin 2024
Tie look at president way are you making this easy
I love the series, but it's always been difficult for me to believe roslin and adama who are realists, would give serious weight to things like religion and prophecy. In Gaius' trial, she's talking about visions like they are matter of fact and people should believe her without question, never acknowledging how crazy it all sounds.
Part of the series' purpose was as a commentary and retrospective on US foreign policy and military/political climate following 9/11. A particularly surreal and disturbing aspect of that climate was it being charged with religious sentiment on both sides; more generally, American and Middle Eastern cultures are steeped in religious belief and tradition which is taken surprisingly seriously and literally in times of stress or conflict. Atheist and secular US citizens try not to examine this too closely, because it's so uncomfortable and un-modern. But it's there. Evolutionary psychology, anthropology and sociobiology offer straightforward explanations for why we aren't rid of religious fervour and irrational beliefs, despite being otherwise very intellectually developed: we're hardwired to have a predisposition towards religious and mystical thinking, because it served a vital role in facilitating the development of human co-operation networks and civilizations. The people in BSG are in a fictional future/past setting, but they are still very identifiably humans just like us, with close cultural, psychological and philosophical proximities to us. It follows that wherever humans went in the future, they would take this unfortunate evolutionary baggage with them, even to the stars. One of the most interesting and under-appreciated themes the show explored is what would happen to this inappropriate and dislocated instinct in the distinctly rational and atheistic setting of a technological spacefaring culture. We cannot suppose that it would disappear; all available evidence suggests that wherever we go, the religious impulse will latch onto whatever is available to articulate itself anew.
You all know me well.
Lee choice to be the vice president to the maid president she didnt take Lee from Bill
She sold Lee out.
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The president made a bad decision to circumvent the agreement. She forced Adama into a situation where he had no good option.
Lee was acting according to what he thought right, but executed that poorly.
All this under the backdrop of the survivors of Humanity cooped up in spaceships fleeing an enemy.
Tough situation.
The one thing I loved about this show is it deals on everyday real life issues but I doubt trump would take a new born baby from its parents hours after it's birth personally she should have suffered for that sin
He took kids from parents, put them in cages and let them die.
I found this Apollo to be the most annoying and least loyal character of the show. I'm sure it took a lot for Tigh not to turn around and shoot him knowing that he's his best friend only son.
I really like Tigh as a character. He has a very stable conviction and ability to operate under pressure right up until the part he start to hear music in the walls. Never have I seen a character so strong making such difficult decisions before (such as jettisoning crew out to save fuel lines) and performs so well and balanced. Imo Adama couldnt have done half the things he could do without Tigh on his side.
Apollo is loyal to justice - and its the other characters that find themselves on the wrong side of that from time to time. He's a great character, but not for everyone
@@errhka Justice is sometimes a matter of perspective. You are correct tho in saying he is not for everyone, he definitely is not.
@@errhka Exactly. He follows his conscience and what he believes is just, and he's completely right in this instance and in most of the cases when he defies authority like this. Shame he's under appreciated.
@@dreamer2260 - My problem with Apollo is that he follows his conscience and what he believes is right under any circumstances and he forgets that it doesn't just cost him, but everyone around him.
Much as I dislike Lee, I would have been happy if he pulled the trigger on that traitor Tigh.
Traitor? He followed orders to the last moment lol
@@Proximax9 And when you follow an illegal order to remove your Commander in Chief, and head of state, then the correct term for that is treason.
@@danielhaire6677 Treason like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
@@vinskiize No treason is a crime defined by law.
@@Proximax9 lol dude was a drunk even on duty.
There is such a thing of crossing the line. We are seeing it being played out in real life. It has to do with and inside our own government. Watch what happens after November 3rd and if it doesn't happen then. Watch what happens in April od 2021. This one episode was very intense and deals with the human race survival. What is happening today. Deals with the survival of our country.
I doubt that it will go far Trump will cheat in legal way.
I was talking about Biden and the Democrats.
@@markcrenshaw9562 Biden won fair and square, and Trump is suing only blue counties, and tried to stop the *first* vote count. So yeah. I'd be more worried about Trump trying to illegally retain power.
It always amuses me when Americans think they are the world.
You are one country, a fairly powerful one which will soon lose its superpower status. So sit down, you're not the only one that matters.
@@The_Daily_Tomato You think in one dimential. To honestly think our country will fall in support of a far different one. We don't bow to government. But unto God. My thoughts on this is when government tries to impose its will on another. It won't happen here. We didn't fought a war more than 250 years ago to end up in this situation that I have seen coming.
Mr. Joe Biden?
Huh?
biden is worse. but if this woman had the power and resources that biden has. she'd be far worse than biden.