Great photography and very informative and interesting commentary, Allan. You are lucky to live in a part of the country where so many church buildings exist and have survived the ages- but we are also grateful that you share your knowledge and presentations with us.
I have read several of the comments and many others on your other videos, and noticed that your subscribers are most appreciative of your fine knowledge and careful video photography, and all your great research in putting it all together, and they should be. But I feel compelled to add that your mellifluous voice and distinct diction add a great deal to the enjoyment I always find in viewing your work. It is a strength that many other TH-cam contributors are sadly lacking, which is perhaps not their fault, but something I wanted to mention because it may be the chief reason I find your videos so easily and pleasantly digested. Thank you for all you do!
So true! Dr B, your modulation, diction and pace are perfect for this sort of narration. I also appreciate that you answer the same questions that many of us might ask as we gaze at a construction or artefact for the first time -- such as, this church is built in stone of 2 colours, but why? you always take your enquiries one step further, and it's part of why I feel that your content has so much depth.
Yes, I, too appreciate your crisp diction and the sound is usually good, but i also very much appreciate the CC’s. Many speakers have the annoying tendency to lower their voice at the end of a sentence. to a “confidential” tone. it seems to be pretty much a universal contemporary style.I notice it in movies, also. The best audio quality is from the “Brits” who have been trained in public speaking or for the Stage. Clear and concise, no mumbling or lowering the head & directing the voice onto the chest.! Alan, your intro music is like your voice, each note sounds clear and crisp.. Thank you. I have a question: What happened to the Cross that stood between the Blessed Virgin and St John in that stained glass window? i can guess, but is there a. record somewhere? ✝️
Congrats on 70K subscribers Allan and so well deserved. I have missed the church tours and thanks for this one. I love the stained glass pieces with all the small detailed pictures which are really beautiful. So nice you can get up close. 😊😊😊😊😊
Congratulations on the subscriber milestone, well deserved. Onward and upward! Thanks for this video - I am not familiar with that part of the world at all, I find that chequerboard brickwork fascinating - such care in the building of it, though I must say I find the effect rather disconcerting. That painted glass is a joy, how marvellous that the facial expressions have survived so long.
It is wonderful so see all these beautiful buildings as I will never be able to travel and see them myself. Additionally, I appreciate you for showing us off-the-beaten-path parts that the average tourist would never see. I have a soft spot in my heart for Sir James. I think he was scapegoated by Henry VII so there would be no more pretenders. York forever!
Dr. Barton, your faith and knowledge of your subject matter makes this a very unique and interesting channel. I look forward to your future videos, with my gratitude to you for all of the videos you’ve shared so far.
I remember a few months back you expressing concern about people unsubscribing after church content. I’m grateful that you didn’t let that stop you and that you’ve continued to give us some of the finest content on You-Tube.
Thank you very much! I'm glad to have kept on with the church tours too, my work would feel incomplete without them, but it's encouraging to hear from my subscribers in this regard too.
Audrey Williamson in her book "The Mystery of the Princes" (several editions, mine is 1981) covers the Tyrell case rather well at Ch. XI and gives a well argued verdict of "inconclusive". W. Shakespeare made a damn good job of permanent character assassination on Richard for his Tudor patrons (primarily the descendents of the Lancastrian Earl of Derby) in 1592 and we see things to this day through this lens. But I maintain that all the motivation for the removal of the Yorkist heirs lay with the new Tudor King, unprovable though this may be.
" So, what am I missing? " - there is no causal link between the passing of Titulus Regius and Richard's behaviour towards his nephews. Your argument is not a proof, and that is my position as well. For myself, I speculate that it CAN'T have been Richard and I have cogent arguments, but they remain just that - informed opinion.@@EF5Winds
Richard's integrity is adequately demonstrated by his actions as ruler, first of the Council of the North at Wakefield, then of the realm. Read Williamson - I can't here list all his achievements. Titulus Regius regulates Richard's valid succession by establishing the illegitimacy of Edward IV's children. Edward V, briefly king in 1483, was deposed by parliament. Your "common sense" argument for his murder by Richard, now the legitimate ruler, here breaks down. An interesting question is why Henry Tudor as king repealed Titulus Regius with such zeal, manically expunging every copy bar the one the monks of Croyland had hidden. There is simply not enough evidence to adduce that Richard was his nephews' murderer, and there is plenty of evidence for the correction of the politically-motivated defamation of his character by St. Thomas More and Mr. W. Shakespeare. Academic historians should guard themselves from judging historical figures by kangaroo court: if you are going to find such a figure guilty of murder, you need to have applied due process as envisaged by (in this case) English Law and its concomitant jurisprudence. @@EF5Winds
Thank you Allan for two years of a gentle, unique and delightful corner of an increasingly bleak Internet. My favourite parts of your vids your amusing observations when you make yourself chuckle. Never realised it was possible to hear a smile. I hope you going for a long time, these little pockets of beauty and joy are priceless.
I have just ordered a couple of the earlier Antiquary. I’m so excited to receive them and look forward to the articles in them. You are very deserving of your channels success. Always informative and interesting. Keep up the good work!
What a gem of a chapel. It's something of a miracle that those beautiful windows have survived -- and a real treat that visitors are allowed an up-close view. Congratulations, as well, on your 70,000th!
What an interesting chapel. Thank you so much for showing it to us Allan. My particular interest is surviving pre reformation glass and church fabric. This chapel has it spades! Once again a big thank you & congratulations on 70k subscribers 😊
Congratulations, Allan! There is no wonder at all that you've attained 70,000 followers. Thank you for your vast knowledge and the sharing of it. This latest "church tour" is wonderful, and it is these tours that first attracted me to your channel. All of your postings are of the best quality and interest, and I anticipate more. All the best!
Thank you for another excellent history lesson!! The best thing about researching history, is that you never know where the next stone you turn over will lead you, or the wonderful people you might meet in your quest for information.
Well done Allan reaching 70 000 subscribers! I have learnt so much from your channel and your magazine. This is a fascinating chapel and it is wondrous that it has survived the ravages of time so well. The chequerboard flintstone is such a lovely detail. I hope you will find some time to do more chapel/church rambles as we the subscribers really appreciate them. Thanks as always for sharing your deep knowledge Allan.
I have visited the chapel a couple of times and l just love that this very quiet corner of Suffolk contains this jewel of a late medieval chapel and the story of one of the markets episodes in Englands history. I have always thought the inscription over the door is very telling. I have never seen its equivalent elsewhere. Incidentally, one of Tyrell’s ancestors is the man who shot William Rufus in a hunting ‘accident’. Rufus is widely believed to have been gay…
Hi Allan! Congratulations on 70K! If Tyrell did the deed, it makes me wonder how he reconciled those acts with his religion. One could dismiss the question with the assumption that his participation in the Church was merely a social activity expected of people of his rank. Another thought is that he considered the killings an obligation since they had supposedly been ordered by his master. "I was obeying orders" has been used as a defense since the beginning of history.
Medieval people took ‘It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’ very seriously indeed. That is why there are so many chantries where continuous chanting was practiced to pray for the soul of the deceased so they could enter heaven from purgatory- Gods waiting room. Other ways of gaining entry was enter into good works- providing alms for the poor and giving money to the church. The lavish nature of Gipping chapel strongly suggests to me an attempt at penance
Thank you for another outstanding video. It would be incredibly interesting to hang out with you. While not a large chapel, this is an impressive place.
Congratulations Allan! Thank you so much for all the hard work you do in putting up these videos. Have you ever considered going back and re-doing the Royal vault at St. George Chapel and telling us who are all the people are in there. I would love to know more about princess Charlotte's beautiful Monument who designed it. Were there ever any memorial monument for any of the Georgian Kings or was it out of style at the time? I'm sure you have a lot on your plate already but I am anxiously looking forward to anymore in-depth Royal burials at Westminster Abbey and elsewhere. Thank you again and congratulations on the success of this channel.
Lovely video I did watch an hour and a half channel 5 programme about the Princes in the tower. Upshot was that the historian claimed Lambert Simnel was in fact the younger of the Princes.
Many congratulations on 70,000 subscribers. I recently found your channel and have greatly enjoyed reviewing past videos. Very well narrated with excellent photography. Looking forward to future videos.
Wow, I didn't expect to hear that he killed the Princes in the Tower, or at least supposedly did. Very unusual stone work and the windows are beautiful. Thanks for the video, I will probably never make it across the pond to see where my family came from some 400+ years ago.
Congratulations on the 70,000 subscribers! Not to be left out, I've now subscribed too, a bit belatedly. Also this chapel is very interesting. Now that the manor house has gone, is it run as part of the local Anglican parish? BTW My mother, who originally haled from County Durham (a Yorkist stronghold) was always convinced Richard III did not order the young princes to be murdered and it was really Henry VII's fault. But who can tell after all this time?
We have an Anne Arundel County here in Maryland in the United States. It is between Washington DC and Baltimore, and is a commuter community for both. It's a bit less expensive than Montgomery County because it is farther away from DC.
Thank you for the tour! I would love to visit Great Britain (my Bachelors degree is in Medieval Studies), but I'm in a wheelchair so it would be difficult. This is the next best thing!
Dr B, were 3 of the 5 stained glass windows smashed during the dissolution of the monasteries? is that why the painted cross is missing, and incomplete fragments of the centre window are now jumbled together in 3 of the lower 5 windows, and 2 of the upper row?were the pieces which are a solid colour with no paint lines on them "filler" pieces, to replace lost or irreparably shattered original pieces? I would love you to do a video on how decisions were made when "restoration" was needed for the original glass artworks.
Dr. B., Would love to hear your thoughts on Philippa Langley's recent claim that the "Little Princes" survived into adulthood as the alleged "pretenders" Warbeck and Simnel.
@@Liberty-And-French-FriesThe problem regarding the confession is that while Sir James' trial (for treason, not murder!) is not only well recorded and the documents have survived the centuries, they do not mention any such confession, nor do any other historians of the time, nor does Henry VII utilise it to prevent any possible future trouble for himself, or uses it to quench any remaining rumours, that Perkin Warbeck was really Richard of Shrewsbury (the younger of the boys). Moore is the only source mentioning said confession in his history of Richard III, which doesn't only contain several glaring inaccuracies and contradictions, but which he never even finished let alone published. The story was eventually finished and published by his nephew a few years after Moore's execution, likely to get the family back into Henry VIII's good graces. On top of that, Moore mentions that Tyrell was helped with murdering the princes by two men named Miles Forrest and John Dighton. Now, Dighton was still alive in 1502 when Tyrell was on trial for treason at the Guildhall in London and then subsequently executed on Tower Hill. The confession was supposedly made in private to Henry VII during this trial. However, Dighton was never otherwise implicated or arrested, let alone tried or punished for the murder of the boys. On top of that, considering that late medieval/early modern writers often made use of historical characters to write otherwise fictional moral pieces, it can be called into question, whether there ever was such a confession. Personally, I think it rather unlikely, or we would've heard of it in other sources of the time. The information would've been too important for the Tudors to not make it public knowledge, since it supported their narrative and would've strengthened their position. Also, there are historians who do think that the Lambert Simnel Rebellion of 1487 was in favour of Edward V, not Edward, Earl of Warwick. Personally, I think they make a pretty good point and it makes sense to me. Anyway, there does seem to be some evidence to support this, too. A rebellion in the name if Edward, Earl of Warwick would've been rather nonsensical anyway, considering the boy was in Henry's custody and kept at the Tower of London. In a document from Dublin, where this Edward is said to have reclaimed (!) his crown and was actually crowned, he is described as a tall boy in his late teens - the Earl of Warwick would've been only in his early teens, though. The description does fit Edward V, however, who would've been only a few months away from his 17th birthday and who had been described as being tall for his age in 1483. Unfortunately, there is no regnal number given in said document, which might have cleared things up. What I don't quite believe with the official story is, that Lambert Simnel was a peasant boy (or son of a craft's man) from Oxfordshire that was groomed to pose as Edward, Earl of Warwick by the Yorkist remnants. Not when it was known that he was held by Henry VII. Unless one buys into the theory, that George, Duke of Clarence had substituted his own son and had shipped his actual son overseas into safety before his own execution for treason by Edward IV in 1478. But then, the imposter would've been the boy kept in the Tower, not Lambert Simnel - unless one wants to involve yet another child in this whole mess. If so, what happened to the real Earl of Warwick then when the other two were fakes? And on top of that, why would John de la Pole fight and die for a fake pretender, when he had a claim himself? It is sometimes argued, that the rebellion was really in favour of John de la Pole and the boy, whoever he really was, was just a decoy. But for what purpose? John de la Pole still would've been guilty of treason, regardless of whether he pushed his own claim, or that of one of his cousins, Edward V or Edward, Earl of Warwick. What I think makes the most sense is, that the rebellion was in the name of the now once again legitimate Edward V, and that it was Henry, after winning the battle of Stoke Field and Edward likely dieing during the fighting, who used the boy Lambert Simnel as a decoy and claimed he had pretended to be Edward, Earl of Warwick, because he could show the real Warwick to the people. And he did. I mean, what else could he have done? Tell the people he had just killed another legitimate king of England? Had killed the second king with a much better claim to the throne than himself? And yes, Edward would've automatically become the legitimate king again, one Henry reversed the Titulus Regius, making Henry a usurper, or rather a double-usurper. Yes, in this case he theoretically could've said the boy had pretended to be Edward V but was really an imposter, but since no-one knew what had happened to Edward, Henry had nothing to prove it had not been Edward V and that would have called his actions, if not even kingship into question. By diverting the focus over to the young Earl of Warwick, Henry saved himself a whole lot of trouble. But anyway, what was in it for Simnel to go along with this? A safe job at court, first working in the kitchens and later being promoted to falconer. Quite the career for a boy with a humble background. As said, there are historians with similar arguments to this one, just that they are, unfortunately, often ridiculed for their opinion. I think, but that's of course my opinion, they make a pretty good point.
@Liberty-And-French-Fries How so? The scientific evidence for the remains being those of Richard is pretty strong. From the DNA, to the facial reconstruction, to the age, and date of burial, not to mention the wounds that corroborate with the contemporary sources, all point to this person being Richard III. Even the scoliosis fits with physical descriptions of Richard during his lifetime, that his right shoulder was higher than his left, and that he was of slender built.
But what of that distracting, somewhat brutal, tower? Unlike the body of the building, it is not an item of beauty and must postdate the chapel itself quite considerably (?) Very many congratulations on your much-deserved 70,000 milestone, of course!
It is somewhat brutal - a blot on an otherwise integral whole. It dates from the middle of the 18th century when the chapel started to act as a chapel-of-ease to the parish church at Stowmarket.
At 4:00 we see the whole stained glass window, with the Virgin Mary in one side of the center panel and St. John the Evangelist on the other. You mention that the center panel has shields with the instruments of Christ’s passion on them. You say that the cross of Christ is gone from this scene, but if you go back to 4:00 and pause you can see that the center panel of glass is in the form of a cross. It is easy to get distracted by the details embedded in the parts of the cross, but the cross is clearly there.
@@EF5WindsI think that particular sentence was for treason or high treason. Women who were found guilty of treason were burnt at the stake. Mind you, this is what I've read about what took place in England. I don't know what took place in different European countries
does philippa langley, know of this church and tomb... surely you should, join the *international missing princes project*.. or be feature in the new book :)
Oh my goodness. More wrote such rubbish. In the same unpublished play, he says Richard 'was in the womb 2 years and was born with shoulder length hair and a full set of teeth'. It was over-the-top slander. Maybe that is why More never published it...maybe he figured out his source Morton told him a parcel of lies. Does anyone really take More (Morton's pupil) seriously? Poor Tyrell, another man maligned, and ultimately murdered by the propagandist h7. Confession under torture is bogus. H7 got other 'confessions' in this way. He made a habit of it. The Princes survived and lived on, and were recognized--and financed--by many of the major crowned heads of Europe including the Emperor Maxmillian. Bless those who are finding proof of what really happened: the Princes were not murdered in 1483! Congrats on your subscriptions, I love your videos and commentary.😃
Great photography and very informative and interesting commentary, Allan. You are lucky to live in a part of the country where so many church buildings exist and have survived the ages- but we are also grateful that you share your knowledge and presentations with us.
Amen 🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
It has been a distinct pleasure to be numbered amongst your subscribers! Continued success and much aloha to you!
Well done Allan. These churches/chapels always have a tale to tell. Keep up the great work!
Congratulations on 70,000. This is a very interesting channel, and your narratives are clear and provide fascinating information.
The plastic chairs made me laugh. For weddings
Me too!
I have read several of the comments and many others on your other videos, and noticed that your subscribers are most appreciative of your fine knowledge and careful video photography, and all your great research in putting it all together, and they should be. But I feel compelled to add that your mellifluous voice and distinct diction add a great deal to the enjoyment I always find in viewing your work. It is a strength that many other TH-cam contributors are sadly lacking, which is perhaps not their fault, but something I wanted to mention because it may be the chief reason I find your videos so easily and pleasantly digested. Thank you for all you do!
So true! Dr B, your modulation, diction and pace are perfect for this sort of narration. I also appreciate that you answer the same questions that many of us might ask as we gaze at a construction or artefact for the first time -- such as, this church is built in stone of 2 colours, but why? you always take your enquiries one step further, and it's part of why I feel that your content has so much depth.
Thank you very much for your kind words! It's great to have my efforts in these additional regards appreciated so!
@@a24-45 I couldn't agree more!
Yes, I, too appreciate your crisp diction and the sound is usually good, but i also very much appreciate the CC’s. Many speakers have the annoying tendency to lower their voice at the end of a sentence. to a “confidential” tone. it seems to be pretty much a universal contemporary style.I notice it in movies, also. The best audio quality is from the “Brits” who have been trained in public speaking or for the Stage. Clear and concise, no mumbling or lowering the head & directing the voice onto the chest.! Alan, your intro music is like your voice, each note sounds clear and crisp.. Thank you. I have a question: What happened to the Cross that stood between the Blessed Virgin and St John in that stained glass window? i can guess, but is there a. record somewhere? ✝️
Congrats on 70K subscribers Allan and so well deserved. I have missed the church tours and thanks for this one. I love the stained glass pieces with all the small detailed pictures which are really beautiful. So nice you can get up close. 😊😊😊😊😊
Congratulations on the subscriber milestone, well deserved. Onward and upward! Thanks for this video - I am not familiar with that part of the world at all, I find that chequerboard brickwork fascinating - such care in the building of it, though I must say I find the effect rather disconcerting. That painted glass is a joy, how marvellous that the facial expressions have survived so long.
It is wonderful so see all these beautiful buildings as I will never be able to travel and see them myself. Additionally, I appreciate you for showing us off-the-beaten-path parts that the average tourist would never see. I have a soft spot in my heart for Sir James. I think he was scapegoated by Henry VII so there would be no more pretenders. York forever!
Dr. Barton, your faith and knowledge of your subject matter makes this a very unique and interesting channel. I look forward to your future videos, with my gratitude to you for all of the videos you’ve shared so far.
I remember a few months back you expressing concern about people unsubscribing after church content. I’m grateful that you didn’t let that stop you and that you’ve continued to give us some of the finest content on You-Tube.
Absolutely agree.
Thank you very much! I'm glad to have kept on with the church tours too, my work would feel incomplete without them, but it's encouraging to hear from my subscribers in this regard too.
I love being one of your 70k subscribers thank you Allan for these wonderful stories.
Audrey Williamson in her book "The Mystery of the Princes" (several editions, mine is 1981) covers the Tyrell case rather well at Ch. XI and gives a well argued verdict of "inconclusive". W. Shakespeare made a damn good job of permanent character assassination on Richard for his Tudor patrons (primarily the descendents of the Lancastrian Earl of Derby) in 1592 and we see things to this day through this lens. But I maintain that all the motivation for the removal of the Yorkist heirs lay with the new Tudor King, unprovable though this may be.
I agree as well! & I honestly always thought that the Empson & Dudley executions by Henry VIII were definitely a way to tie up the loose ends.
" So, what am I missing? " - there is no causal link between the passing of Titulus Regius and Richard's behaviour towards his nephews. Your argument is not a proof, and that is my position as well. For myself, I speculate that it CAN'T have been Richard and I have cogent arguments, but they remain just that - informed opinion.@@EF5Winds
Richard's integrity is adequately demonstrated by his actions as ruler, first of the Council of the North at Wakefield, then of the realm. Read Williamson - I can't here list all his achievements. Titulus Regius regulates Richard's valid succession by establishing the illegitimacy of Edward IV's children. Edward V, briefly king in 1483, was deposed by parliament. Your "common sense" argument for his murder by Richard, now the legitimate ruler, here breaks down. An interesting question is why Henry Tudor as king repealed Titulus Regius with such zeal, manically expunging every copy bar the one the monks of Croyland had hidden. There is simply not enough evidence to adduce that Richard was his nephews' murderer, and there is plenty of evidence for the correction of the politically-motivated defamation of his character by St. Thomas More and Mr. W. Shakespeare. Academic historians should guard themselves from judging historical figures by kangaroo court: if you are going to find such a figure guilty of murder, you need to have applied due process as envisaged by (in this case) English Law and its concomitant jurisprudence. @@EF5Winds
Thank you Allan for two years of a gentle, unique and delightful corner of an increasingly bleak Internet. My favourite parts of your vids your amusing observations when you make yourself chuckle. Never realised it was possible to hear a smile. I hope you going for a long time, these little pockets of beauty and joy are priceless.
I have just ordered a couple of the earlier Antiquary. I’m so excited to receive them and look forward to the articles in them. You are very deserving of your channels success. Always informative and interesting. Keep up the good work!
What a gem of a chapel. It's something of a miracle that those beautiful windows have survived -- and a real treat that visitors are allowed an up-close view.
Congratulations, as well, on your 70,000th!
So glad to be one of your 700,000 subscribers! I loved the series of videos you did on King Charles’s coronation.
What an interesting chapel. Thank you so much for showing it to us Allan. My particular interest is surviving pre reformation glass and church fabric. This chapel has it spades! Once again a big thank you & congratulations on 70k subscribers 😊
Grats on 70k subs! This is one of my favorite history related channels.
What a beautiful little chapel well done and congratulations this is a fantastic channel
Congratulations, Allan! There is no wonder at all that you've attained 70,000 followers. Thank you for your vast knowledge and the sharing of it. This latest "church tour" is wonderful, and it is these tours that first attracted me to your channel. All of your postings are of the best quality and interest, and I anticipate more. All the best!
Thank you very much for your continued support! I hope to share many more discoveries and treasures with you and others here for a good while yet!
A fascinating chapel. Thank you.
Grateful creators like YOU ❤❤❤
Thank you for another excellent history lesson!! The best thing about researching history, is that you never know where the next stone you turn over will lead you, or the wonderful people you might meet in your quest for information.
What a stunning place. Thank you Allan, again and again.
Well done Allan reaching 70 000 subscribers! I have learnt so much from your channel and your magazine. This is a fascinating chapel and it is wondrous that it has survived the ravages of time so well. The chequerboard flintstone is such a lovely detail. I hope you will find some time to do more chapel/church rambles as we the subscribers really appreciate them. Thanks as always for sharing your deep knowledge Allan.
Could not have said it better.
It's a wonderful survival. Glad you liked it! Thanks for your continued support.
Incredibly interesting. Such a beautiful place, and remarkably pristine.
Greetings from Denmark, I absolutely love your channel!
Same from Paris, France. I subscribed after viewing your content re HMTQ EII funeral.
I have visited the chapel a couple of times and l just love that this very quiet corner of Suffolk contains this jewel of a late medieval chapel and the story of one of the markets episodes in Englands history. I have always thought the inscription over the door is very telling. I have never seen its equivalent elsewhere. Incidentally, one of Tyrell’s ancestors is the man who shot William Rufus in a hunting ‘accident’. Rufus is widely believed to have been gay…
Thank you for visiting this little church. Beautiful at the outside. The windows tell a lot of history. Martha
Glad you liked it! 😊
I watch every single video you post and honestly look forward to seeing what you post next.
Hi Allan! Congratulations on 70K! If Tyrell did the deed, it makes me wonder how he reconciled those acts with his religion. One could dismiss the question with the assumption that his participation in the Church was merely a social activity expected of people of his rank. Another thought is that he considered the killings an obligation since they had supposedly been ordered by his master. "I was obeying orders" has been used as a defense since the beginning of history.
Medieval people took ‘It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’ very seriously indeed. That is why there are so many chantries where continuous chanting was practiced to pray for the soul of the deceased so they could enter heaven from purgatory- Gods waiting room. Other ways of gaining entry was enter into good works- providing alms for the poor and giving money to the church. The lavish nature of Gipping chapel strongly suggests to me an attempt at penance
GRATS Allan on 70k!!!! You deserve it!!
Thanks very much for your continued support!
Thank you for another outstanding video. It would be incredibly interesting to hang out with you. While not a large chapel, this is an impressive place.
Congratulations on 70k subscribers. I look forward to your future videos. They are always so very interesting.
Congratulations on 70 K subscribers, Allan!! Well done!! 🎉🎊👏👏👍❤
Congratulations on the 70,000, very well deserved. Today’s video was just enthralling , wonderful. Thank you again 🙏🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
Thank you so much for your support! Glad you continue to enjoy my work 😊.
Congratulations Allan! Thank you so much for all the hard work you do in putting up these videos. Have you ever considered going back and re-doing the Royal vault at St. George Chapel and telling us who are all the people are in there. I would love to know more about princess Charlotte's beautiful Monument who designed it. Were there ever any memorial monument for any of the Georgian Kings or was it out of style at the time? I'm sure you have a lot on your plate already but I am anxiously looking forward to anymore in-depth Royal burials at Westminster Abbey and elsewhere.
Thank you again and congratulations on the success of this channel.
Congratulations on 70k subscribers!
Lol getting executed at Tower Hill seems to have been a problem for this family
Lovely chapel though and thanks for showing it to us
Yes they were the Gits of Gittingdonshire
Lovely video I did watch an hour and a half channel 5 programme about the Princes in the tower. Upshot was that the historian claimed Lambert Simnel was in fact the younger of the Princes.
Congratulations on the 70K, you deserve it. Love this channel 👍
Congratulations! Your episodes are so interesting. I always look forward to them!
I love your church tours. I live in the other end of the country and it’s nice to explore East Anglia and Lincolnshire through your videos
Congratulations on 70k. Glad I’m one of them! Keep doing it.
As always a great video. Congratulations on 70k subscibers and on all your great videos; long may they continue. Best wishes from Dublin😃
You've done a beautiful job on this beautiful church.
Another interesting video. I'm enjoying your visits to these churches/chapels.
Fascinating history as always. Thank you. ❤❤❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
I looove those explorations!
I am sure England has enough of those for a lot of clips.
Greatly enjoy your channel, another very interesting video.
Thank you, Dr. Barton.
You are very welcome 😊
Fascinating. Thanks Alan
Many congratulations on 70,000 subscribers. I recently found your channel and have greatly enjoyed reviewing past videos. Very well narrated with excellent photography. Looking forward to future videos.
Thank you very much! I'm glad you're enjoying my channel!
An excellent channel indeed well done 👏👏
I know the bromide "If these wall could talk" is well-worn, but in this case....
Wow, I didn't expect to hear that he killed the Princes in the Tower, or at least supposedly did. Very unusual stone work and the windows are beautiful. Thanks for the video, I will probably never make it across the pond to see where my family came from some 400+ years ago.
Excellent content as always, thank you.
Fascinating! Thank you, Allan.
My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.
Congratulations on 70 K subscribers. I have also appreciated your magazine, thanks.
Thanks David.
Congratulations on reaching 70,000 subscribers! I always enjoy your postings.
Thank you very much!
Thankyou for your kind words and your kindness in making these short videos. I enjoy them very much.😊
Thanks very much, it's great to hear my work appreciated!
Congratulations on the 70,000 subscribers! Not to be left out, I've now subscribed too, a bit belatedly. Also this chapel is very interesting. Now that the manor house has gone, is it run as part of the local Anglican parish? BTW My mother, who originally haled from County Durham (a Yorkist stronghold) was always convinced Richard III did not order the young princes to be murdered and it was really Henry VII's fault. But who can tell after all this time?
Congratulations, Allan, great video
Thank you, Allan.
You are very welcome!
That glass would be worth a visit alone!
70K subs! Bravo! Thank you for showing us a beautiful little church that was spared the ravages of reform.
Congratulations on your milestone.
The perfect channel to wake up to on a Sunday morning. Keep it up, please.
Thanks for the encouragement! Glad you continue to enjoy my work 😊.
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Wonderful video as always. Congratulations on 70,000 subscribers 👍
Thank you very much!
As ever exceeds expectations
I am a new subscriber and would like to say thank you for this interesting and educational video, and for all the others in advance! 😊😊😊
So very interesting and beautiful. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great work, Allan. Love your channel ❤
Thank you very much, glad you're enjoying my videos!
We have an Anne Arundel County here in Maryland in the United States. It is between Washington DC and Baltimore, and is a commuter community for both. It's a bit less expensive than Montgomery County because it is farther away from DC.
Thank you for the tour! I would love to visit Great Britain (my Bachelors degree is in Medieval Studies), but I'm in a wheelchair so it would be difficult. This is the next best thing!
You deserve your success!
Congratulations!
Dr B, were 3 of the 5 stained glass windows smashed during the dissolution of the monasteries? is that why the painted cross is missing, and incomplete fragments of the centre window are now jumbled together in 3 of the lower 5 windows, and 2 of the upper row?were the pieces which are a solid colour with no paint lines on them "filler" pieces, to replace lost or irreparably shattered original pieces? I would love you to do a video on how decisions were made when "restoration" was needed for the original glass artworks.
Dr. B., Would love to hear your thoughts on Philippa Langley's recent claim that the "Little Princes" survived into adulthood as the alleged "pretenders" Warbeck and Simnel.
Ridiculous 😑
@@Liberty-And-French-FriesThe problem regarding the confession is that while Sir James' trial (for treason, not murder!) is not only well recorded and the documents have survived the centuries, they do not mention any such confession, nor do any other historians of the time, nor does Henry VII utilise it to prevent any possible future trouble for himself, or uses it to quench any remaining rumours, that Perkin Warbeck was really Richard of Shrewsbury (the younger of the boys). Moore is the only source mentioning said confession in his history of Richard III, which doesn't only contain several glaring inaccuracies and contradictions, but which he never even finished let alone published. The story was eventually finished and published by his nephew a few years after Moore's execution, likely to get the family back into Henry VIII's good graces.
On top of that, Moore mentions that Tyrell was helped with murdering the princes by two men named Miles Forrest and John Dighton. Now, Dighton was still alive in 1502 when Tyrell was on trial for treason at the Guildhall in London and then subsequently executed on Tower Hill. The confession was supposedly made in private to Henry VII during this trial. However, Dighton was never otherwise implicated or arrested, let alone tried or punished for the murder of the boys.
On top of that, considering that late medieval/early modern writers often made use of historical characters to write otherwise fictional moral pieces, it can be called into question, whether there ever was such a confession.
Personally, I think it rather unlikely, or we would've heard of it in other sources of the time. The information would've been too important for the Tudors to not make it public knowledge, since it supported their narrative and would've strengthened their position.
Also, there are historians who do think that the Lambert Simnel Rebellion of 1487 was in favour of Edward V, not Edward, Earl of Warwick. Personally, I think they make a pretty good point and it makes sense to me. Anyway, there does seem to be some evidence to support this, too.
A rebellion in the name if Edward, Earl of Warwick would've been rather nonsensical anyway, considering the boy was in Henry's custody and kept at the Tower of London.
In a document from Dublin, where this Edward is said to have reclaimed (!) his crown and was actually crowned, he is described as a tall boy in his late teens - the Earl of Warwick would've been only in his early teens, though. The description does fit Edward V, however, who would've been only a few months away from his 17th birthday and who had been described as being tall for his age in 1483. Unfortunately, there is no regnal number given in said document, which might have cleared things up.
What I don't quite believe with the official story is, that Lambert Simnel was a peasant boy (or son of a craft's man) from Oxfordshire that was groomed to pose as Edward, Earl of Warwick by the Yorkist remnants. Not when it was known that he was held by Henry VII. Unless one buys into the theory, that George, Duke of Clarence had substituted his own son and had shipped his actual son overseas into safety before his own execution for treason by Edward IV in 1478. But then, the imposter would've been the boy kept in the Tower, not Lambert Simnel - unless one wants to involve yet another child in this whole mess. If so, what happened to the real Earl of Warwick then when the other two were fakes? And on top of that, why would John de la Pole fight and die for a fake pretender, when he had a claim himself? It is sometimes argued, that the rebellion was really in favour of John de la Pole and the boy, whoever he really was, was just a decoy. But for what purpose? John de la Pole still would've been guilty of treason, regardless of whether he pushed his own claim, or that of one of his cousins, Edward V or Edward, Earl of Warwick.
What I think makes the most sense is, that the rebellion was in the name of the now once again legitimate Edward V, and that it was Henry, after winning the battle of Stoke Field and Edward likely dieing during the fighting, who used the boy Lambert Simnel as a decoy and claimed he had pretended to be Edward, Earl of Warwick, because he could show the real Warwick to the people. And he did. I mean, what else could he have done? Tell the people he had just killed another legitimate king of England? Had killed the second king with a much better claim to the throne than himself? And yes, Edward would've automatically become the legitimate king again, one Henry reversed the Titulus Regius, making Henry a usurper, or rather a double-usurper. Yes, in this case he theoretically could've said the boy had pretended to be Edward V but was really an imposter, but since no-one knew what had happened to Edward, Henry had nothing to prove it had not been Edward V and that would have called his actions, if not even kingship into question. By diverting the focus over to the young Earl of Warwick, Henry saved himself a whole lot of trouble.
But anyway, what was in it for Simnel to go along with this? A safe job at court, first working in the kitchens and later being promoted to falconer. Quite the career for a boy with a humble background.
As said, there are historians with similar arguments to this one, just that they are, unfortunately, often ridiculed for their opinion. I think, but that's of course my opinion, they make a pretty good point.
@Liberty-And-French-Fries How so? The scientific evidence for the remains being those of Richard is pretty strong. From the DNA, to the facial reconstruction, to the age, and date of burial, not to mention the wounds that corroborate with the contemporary sources, all point to this person being Richard III. Even the scoliosis fits with physical descriptions of Richard during his lifetime, that his right shoulder was higher than his left, and that he was of slender built.
But what of that distracting, somewhat brutal, tower? Unlike the body of the building, it is not an item of beauty and must postdate the chapel itself quite considerably (?) Very many congratulations on your much-deserved 70,000 milestone, of course!
It is somewhat brutal - a blot on an otherwise integral whole. It dates from the middle of the 18th century when the chapel started to act as a chapel-of-ease to the parish church at Stowmarket.
@@allanbartonMany thanks; one might call the tower “a monstrous carbuncle on the face of a much-loved and elegant friend.” 👑
Endue thy ministers with righteousness - Indeed.
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Its been debunked now. Both princes survived on the continent. We even have a short autobiography of one of the princess.
That’s still not established, it’s one theory.
@@allanbarton I found the evidence more than sufficient
I'm afraid as it currently stands I don't @@habibikebabtheiii2037
At 4:00 we see the whole stained glass window, with the Virgin Mary in one side of the center panel and St. John the Evangelist on the other. You mention that the center panel has shields with the instruments of Christ’s passion on them. You say that the cross of Christ is gone from this scene, but if you go back to 4:00 and pause you can see that the center panel of glass is in the form of a cross. It is easy to get distracted by the details embedded in the parts of the cross, but the cross is clearly there.
There's a ridiculous movement to take the heat off Richard III but he did it alright and Thomas More had the inside dope 👈😑
Does the place of execution indicate that father and son were hung, drawn, and quartered the usual punishment for treason?
Were father and son found guilty of treason? Execution at the Tower of London didn't mean being hanged, drawn and quartered
@@EF5WindsI think that particular sentence was for treason or high treason. Women who were found guilty of treason were burnt at the stake. Mind you, this is what I've read about what took place in England. I don't know what took place in different European countries
@@EF5WindsYes, it was a gruesome way to die
No place of execution just means taken somewhere legal to perform the sentence, the sentence is a different thing 😑
does philippa langley,
know of this church and tomb...
surely you should, join the *international missing princes project*..
or be feature in the new book :)
What happened to the tower, which appears to have been rendered?
Is it later?, maybe poor quality brick originally?
Oh my goodness. More wrote such rubbish. In the same unpublished play, he says Richard 'was in the womb 2 years and was born with shoulder length hair and a full set of teeth'. It was over-the-top slander. Maybe that is why More never published it...maybe he figured out his source Morton told him a parcel of lies. Does anyone really take More (Morton's pupil) seriously? Poor Tyrell, another man maligned, and ultimately murdered by the propagandist h7. Confession under torture is bogus. H7 got other 'confessions' in this way. He made a habit of it. The Princes survived and lived on, and were recognized--and financed--by many of the major crowned heads of Europe including the Emperor Maxmillian. Bless those who are finding proof of what really happened: the Princes were not murdered in 1483!
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