After watching a bunch of crate-building videos, I settled on your approach ... with a few minor variations. This being my first crate - for my first piece of museum cabinetry - I erred on the side of ruggedness. The LTL driver picking up the crate commented on how well-made it was. Thanks Cam.
Cam, instead of the bubble, use a couple layers of .5mil high-density poly sheeting drop cloth (I get it at Home Depot). Bubblewrap can leave a bubble pattern on your work, especially if the finish isn’t 100% cured. The high-dense poly is inert and very slippery; by using 2 or more layers you are creating a slip-zone between the poly layers. Any vibration, flexing, movement, etc will be between these layers and will not be transferred to your furniture. There is a whole science to crating (crating fine-art for a living is part of my job) I’m happy to dive more into it with you if you like. I can also recommend some much better shipping methods you may not be aware of instead of sending things via freight.
@stevet47 color me extremely interested. Do you make videos, or have a website where I may learn more? Presentation of a piece can make or break the customer's experience. Everything down to the shipping container & material could mean the difference between a one time purchase & a valued life-long customer. Whether it's furniture, art, or something in between. I would also very much appreciate any more tips you might have. Thanks, - RMB
Thanks Cam, as always very helpful. Just finished up a really nice bench for my Mom, and have to drive quite a long ways to deliver it. Definitely building a crate to keep it protected on the drive.
True, the video I didn't care to watch. But I'm glad I did. I'll probably ask myself a few times why I watched it. But honestly, when I find a content creator I like, I support that channel to the best of my ability. I love your work and your videos.
Cam what is the typical out of pocket for a dining table you ship to say East coast US? Do you include that in your estimate? Or is that something you add later?
So thankful you didn't bubble wrap the top. I am assuming it is resin and bubble wrap can cause issues with resin. :D Absolutely beautiful table and packing job. :D - Heidi
I need to make a crate to ship the seats of my 1931 Model A Ford to the upholstery company. The front seats are bucket seat where back folds down. The rear seat is two piece bench seat with back and bottom being separate. Going is one thing but crate will be reused to return recovered leather seats so do not want rubbing damage, etc. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Carl
It's nice to see someone actually put care into packaging although if I'm paying $6k for a coffee table then it better be no less than white glove service 😂
Who do you ship through and where do you get your shipping quotes from? Do you get LTL quotes? Do you ever ship over seas? How you do get competitive quotes?
Gotcha..... but do you use a secondary company to purchase more insurance to cover losses if something happens? I know the actual shipping company only covers so much.
That is actually freight broker, not a carrier. Anything less than truck load or LTL freight is usually handled by companies like Old Dominion who advertises a lot on TV.
Thank you! Which company do you prefer for shipping these wooden crates? Mine are quite a bit smaller than yours, but it seems like it costs way more than it should to ship.
Soooo I noticed the Atlanta Falcons towel in the background. Fan? Was showing off your work to a co worker and the question came up if you have a site to sell your crafts.
As a rookie woodworker, I appreciate the tips cuz I am building a credenza for someone across the country. Any logistics tips on freighters to use or any particular companies that are good at this kind of stuff?
How much does those crates weight at the end. Because with my shipping firm the prices go really high if exceed 30kg? Just wanted to know if you have a approximent weight in mind... And thanks for the great work
Hey Cam, I've watched a ton of your videos and love the channel! I'm just getting started and was wondering how I'd ship a smaller round table top (30in)? A crate seems like overkill.
love the videos man! ...... I am curious how you ship your tables? I talked to UPS the other day and they said 150lbs was their max weight so I am curious how you do it thanks!
@@BlacktailStudio I also tried to find it out and for some reason, it's not on your website. In case I'm doing something wrong, can you post the link so we can all have a look? Cheers
Good for you for the 6k. Curious if you would be willing to make a video about how you price your stuff and how you attract or find clientele. I understand your reputation drives your price up but I have a hard time selling a 6k dinning table. But I’m on a dif level than you are. Thanks for making the videos.
I totally would. I don’t keep much a secret. But there isn’t a lot of science to my method. I give pretty high quotes. Sometimes materials run really high, sometimes they don’t. Either way I dont charge the client extra. So some tables I do really well, others not as much. I also budget A LOT of time with the clients. Where a normal shop couldn’t spend that much one on one time as I do. So not apples to apples with everyone else.
Blacktail Studio. I guess I’m interested in how you kinda did it in the beginning. How you found clients and things like that? All on line? Combination of things? I feel a little stuck at that point of my journey and just looking for people w experience and willing to share that. The skill you share is def invaluable but not Many share between skill and success. Thank you for your time
Calling this trucker proof is an invitation for disaster. There is nothing trucker or forklift driver proof. They will find a way. If you put the insured dollar value on the side, it might be safer though, since everyone knows the stakes.
Just been watching your videos:) your work is so perfect. Wow. I just want to say, my two cents, I think if you used a white background for your photography, people could see the bases better? And it would reflect light onto the table top and show up more of the beautiful finishes? Maybe you tried that already.... I’m about to watch your video on photography so I’ll see in a minute!! 😂😂 great work though!!
As someone who opens tonne of cabinet/millwork crates, I always appreciate a a mark showing where the screws are.
That’s a good point. The hidden screws are the worst.
Circle each screw with a sharpie.
@@chadkrause8406 thank you for the advice.
After watching a bunch of crate-building videos, I settled on your approach ... with a few minor variations. This being my first crate - for my first piece of museum cabinetry - I erred on the side of ruggedness. The LTL driver picking up the crate commented on how well-made it was. Thanks Cam.
Something super satisfying watching a higher end custom furniture designer-and-maker slap something quick together
Cam, instead of the bubble, use a couple layers of .5mil high-density poly sheeting drop cloth (I get it at Home Depot). Bubblewrap can leave a bubble pattern on your work, especially if the finish isn’t 100% cured. The high-dense poly is inert and very slippery; by using 2 or more layers you are creating a slip-zone between the poly layers. Any vibration, flexing, movement, etc will be between these layers and will not be transferred to your furniture. There is a whole science to crating (crating fine-art for a living is part of my job) I’m happy to dive more into it with you if you like. I can also recommend some much better shipping methods you may not be aware of instead of sending things via freight.
Good tip!
Great Tip I just built a really nice white oak bench and have to drive it across country to deliver to my mom.
@stevet47 color me extremely interested. Do you make videos, or have a website where I may learn more? Presentation of a piece can make or break the customer's experience. Everything down to the shipping container & material could mean the difference between a one time purchase & a valued life-long customer. Whether it's furniture, art, or something in between. I would also very much appreciate any more tips you might have.
Thanks,
- RMB
I’m interested in shipping methods info?
Thanks Cam, as always very helpful. Just finished up a really nice bench for my Mom, and have to drive quite a long ways to deliver it. Definitely building a crate to keep it protected on the drive.
Thanks for sharing Cam I learned a lot from this one to improve my shipping.
“Don’t waste time trying to make it perfect” Makes it perfectly*
Who knew building a crate took skill too. Good stuff ❤️
True, the video I didn't care to watch. But I'm glad I did. I'll probably ask myself a few times why I watched it. But honestly, when I find a content creator I like, I support that channel to the best of my ability. I love your work and your videos.
Best video on TH-cam! Thanks. 👍🏼👍🏼
that's a professionalism you show it to your customers. very very nice work
Love your content man. Keep up the great work. I can’t stop watching it.
This is great! I made Jason Hibb's Whiskey table for my son, and need to ship it to him. It is made from cotton wood. Thanks, man!
How does the shipping process work? Does the shipper pickup or do you take it to a depot?
Love this. Would recommend cutting out some notches in the 2x4s for the forks; that way they lift from the 2x4 not from the bottom of your table.
Here is the video I didn’t know I didn’t want but actually want because I wasn’t a viewer 3 years ago!
the content that your produce is amazing. i cannot thank you enough for what you do.
POV: You’re watching this in 2023 after his community post
It would be funny if they used the crate as a coffee table in a different room.
One of your best videos! 😉
Thanks, great video. I appreciate how honest you are about your process!
I try!
Cam what is the typical out of pocket for a dining table you ship to say East coast US? Do you include that in your estimate? Or is that something you add later?
Liked and commented just to help the algorithm!
Do you build the cost of the crate materials into the cost of the table? Or is that part of the shipping cost for the clients?
Thanks for posting this. This vid gave me some good ideas for a crate I had to build for a large sculpture. The crate turned out perfect.
Thanks! And it’s the only way to crate
Very nice... Hello from Croatian carpenter :)
Hello from Oregon!
WOW , it took awhile to find this video , but its great !
I’m glad!
So thankful you didn't bubble wrap the top. I am assuming it is resin and bubble wrap can cause issues with resin. :D Absolutely beautiful table and packing job. :D - Heidi
Thanks Heidi!
Great table. The quality of your work is reflected in the price, IMO. If you don’t mind me asking, what was the cost to ship it across the country?
This went with a larger table too. But would be around $400 or so alone
I'm here just to make this video a banger
Beautiful crate bro
Thanks Bryan!
Where did you buy the brass colored legs??
On the top part of the sides what did you screw into ?
Into the 1x4 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video
I agree, be it weird or not, beautiful crate!
Thanks Don!!
As a truck driver, its not the trucking part that damages things, its the idiots on either end with the forklifts .
That’s fair
What does it cost to ship something like that from oregon to NY? Does it go through like UPS or do you have to use a freight company?
Thanks for design inspiration and tips!👋
Of course!
Do you have a go to freight company you prefer?
How much was shipping for this crate roughly? My dad want's to expand his business to other states but we dont know where to start about shipping.
Accurate, thanks for sharing
Thanks Kim!
AWESOME VIDEO MAN🫵🏼😎👍🏼........
cant you go with osb for the whole create?
what do you do if you're boxing something which is completely not cuboid?
I need to make a crate to ship the seats of my 1931 Model A Ford to the upholstery company. The front seats are bucket seat where back folds down. The rear seat is two piece bench seat with back and bottom being separate. Going is one thing but crate will be reused to return recovered leather seats so do not want rubbing damage, etc. Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks,
Carl
It's nice to see someone actually put care into packaging although if I'm paying $6k for a coffee table then it better be no less than white glove service 😂
Hi! Do you have a link for the table that you put in the crate?
It’s on my website 😊
How much did all the stuff you got from home depot
What carrier do you prefer for shipping something like this?
I go through Freightquote
Who do you ship through and where do you get your shipping quotes from? Do you get LTL quotes? Do you ever ship over seas? How you do get competitive quotes?
I use Freight Quote, in my blog post on crating I include my reps contact information!
New video from Black Tail ? Get out the popcorn for the comments 🍿😂
I was wondering what company you purchase your extra freight insurance from? Thanks
Check out my blog on this topic. I even gave a link to my particular rep at the freight company.
Gotcha..... but do you use a secondary company to purchase more insurance to cover losses if something happens? I know the actual shipping company only covers so much.
Who do you use to ship? Or is there a freight carrier that you could recommend to ship furniture in across the US?
Freightquote is where I normally go. Usually goes super well.
That is actually freight broker, not a carrier.
Anything less than truck load or LTL freight is usually handled by companies like Old Dominion who advertises a lot on TV.
A was hoping for the video of making the table :P
He's posted a two part video on making this table. Worth a watch.
What company or companies do you use to ship your products?
Thank you! Which company do you prefer for shipping these wooden crates? Mine are quite a bit smaller than yours, but it seems like it costs way more than it should to ship.
Less drivers/Covid
Soooo I noticed the Atlanta Falcons towel in the background. Fan? Was showing off your work to a co worker and the question came up if you have a site to sell your crafts.
Na, just a blanket that showed up somehow. And definitely sell!
Nice crate, and what a bargain for such a beautiful table!
Thanks Stefan! Always appreciate it
As a rookie woodworker, I appreciate the tips cuz I am building a credenza for someone across the country. Any logistics tips on freighters to use or any particular companies that are good at this kind of stuff?
Check out my blog on this. I give a contact there
@@BlacktailStudio thank you!
That must be some expensive coffee... ;-)
Right??
How much does those crates weight at the end. Because with my shipping firm the prices go really high if exceed 30kg? Just wanted to know if you have a approximent weight in mind... And thanks for the great work
This one loaded was probably 60kg
@@BlacktailStudio Thanks for the fast reply. I really appreciate it
Where do you sell your products??
They’re all custom made. There’s a link to my website in the description 👍🏼👍🏼
You are amazing!!
Oh thanks
Hey Cam, I've watched a ton of your videos and love the channel! I'm just getting started and was wondering how I'd ship a smaller round table top (30in)? A crate seems like overkill.
Do you use this same process for even your large tables?
Yup!
love the videos man! ...... I am curious how you ship your tables? I talked to UPS the other day and they said 150lbs was their max weight so I am curious how you do it thanks!
I did a blog on that!
@@BlacktailStudio can you post a link please I cant find it im not very tech savvy
@@BlacktailStudio I also tried to find it out and for some reason, it's not on your website. In case I'm doing something wrong, can you post the link so we can all have a look? Cheers
Nice
Cool
Plot twist: client sees the crate and thinks its the table and puts the whole thing in place xD
They should!
@@BlacktailStudio [goes to website]
"New from Blacktail Stuido: This wonderful crate! for 1499 it can be yours!"
=D Come on.. itd be hilarious.
I wish I did this for a living.
I'd say mark the screw points and maybe for a touch of pizazz stencil or stamp your logo on there.
That would class it up for sure.
That must cost a fortune to ship. Who do you use?
Отлично 👍
This video is so useless to me and i loved it 😂
Good for you for the 6k. Curious if you would be willing to make a video about how you price your stuff and how you attract or find clientele. I understand your reputation drives your price up but I have a hard time selling a 6k dinning table. But I’m on a dif level than you are. Thanks for making the videos.
I totally would. I don’t keep much a secret. But there isn’t a lot of science to my method. I give pretty high quotes. Sometimes materials run really high, sometimes they don’t. Either way I dont charge the client extra. So some tables I do really well, others not as much. I also budget A LOT of time with the clients. Where a normal shop couldn’t spend that much one on one time as I do. So not apples to apples with everyone else.
Blacktail Studio. I guess I’m interested in how you kinda did it in the beginning. How you found clients and things like that? All on line? Combination of things? I feel a little stuck at that point of my journey and just looking for people w experience and willing to share that. The skill you share is def invaluable but not Many share between skill and success. Thank you for your time
Stunning to see the price of OSB a year later. Ha
An hour or two? For YOU! Me? Four hours.
Hello! Are you planning on making a video about your real brass/epoxy ? see you!
Yup!
😳😳😳$6,000? Really? Holy Crap dude.
😬, yup
Blacktail Studio 😁 do ur thing brother. Im a congratulater not a hater.🤙🏼
Thanks buddy 👊
Two tables in one. What a deal! Lol
Right??
So expensive for a coffee table 🤔😑
You’re not wrong!
You coukd try reuploading it now with the audience you have now and it'd probably do much better
$6000
Wow...
Value really is subjective...
Congrats on talking someone into paying that much!😄👍
Seriously, nice work.👍
Calling this trucker proof is an invitation for disaster. There is nothing trucker or forklift driver proof. They will find a way.
If you put the insured dollar value on the side, it might be safer though, since everyone knows the stakes.
Just been watching your videos:) your work is so perfect. Wow. I just want to say, my two cents, I think if you used a white background for your photography, people could see the bases better? And it would reflect light onto the table top and show up more of the beautiful finishes? Maybe you tried that already.... I’m about to watch your video on photography so I’ll see in a minute!! 😂😂 great work though!!
Thanks Megan! I’m always working on better photos