And it just required the best freaking sonic, excelent spring usage from sonix tbh it was such an amazing set, and he even managed to punish the limit recovery i didn’t even noticed but when i rewatched it was like “WOW he punished limit?!” no matter how good spargo recovers if one of the best out stage players efficiently edgeguard you you’re screwed and sonix finally started using all that tools the spring the fair and even the backair without fear 🙌🔥
This is some of the best I've ever seen Sonix play. No time-outs, no egregious camping, just pure immaculate spacing and skill. Absolutely deserved win. This is the exact opposite of grands at Watch the Throne and you can tell that Sonix took that L personally. Man tightened up his gameplay and really focused and he crushed it.
Spargo double jumping out of disadvantage was the Achilles heel for him. As an extension of that, he was getting edge guarded far more efficiently than normal. Also spargo throwing out back airs and fairs that we’re canceling before they came out was indicative of his play. Interesting stuff.
Sonix’s parries were so on point this set. That, coupled with the reads and mix-ups he was going for, and you can tell just from this set alone how often these two have faced each other.
Man, that was definitely pride. He didn't switch off Cloud because he wanted to beat Sonix with him, almost like "I did it last week, I can do it again".
And 7 Acola-Miya offline sets this year, including two grand finals and three winners finals. That number is also likely to be even higher next year. Crazy stuff.
Spoilers or something . . . . . . .. . . . . Did spargo win a game with corrin then not play her for the entire rest if the set?! Am i the only one who thinks thats wild???
@@rizvan1632 I agree partially, I could tell in his play that sonix would’ve adapted and won the proceeding games. Despite the 2 stock win he did not play dominantly in the match. But set 2 he should’ve started with corrin, and if it was an L then switch back. No reason to not try again in that situation.
That actually very hype! 🤯 One of the best grand finals I’ve seen in a while! 🤯 The quality of the matches was insane! Spargo played out of his mind and Sonix played like a mad man! 🤯
Congrats Sonix! I'm glad you learned both the matchup of Cloud and Aegis❤ I hope Spargo will lab Corrin next as much as Leo's Corrin and take back Sonix's throne.
Sonix really OUTPLAYED Sparg0 this time. His parries, neutral, punishes... Sonix was playing on his own level considering that Sonic loses the match over Sparg0's characters
Fair enough, but I'd argue Spargo vs Sonix is an even better rivalry, because throughout the peak of Tweek and Mkleo's rivlalry, Mkleo was the one that won the most by far. In fact, Mkleo was kind of famous for "destroying Tweek's hope of being the best in the world by always winning against him in grands finals". Basically, Leo was more Tweek's demon, than an actual rival to trade sets with. Spargo and Sonix meanwhile trade games way more often, and that makes the gap between the two players, and by extension, their rivalry, even tighter.@@inarencommander4663
Shut up bro you can’t even say he was camping this set. And what you just said is called neutral Ik smash bros players don’t really understand what that is so I don’t blame you.
Honestly the lack of Corrin alt play I feel really messed up Spargo. It was obvious Sonix was comfy with the matchup, and that character switch up broke that game plan even if it was just a bit. GGS to both
They’ll probably go back and forth but it’s clear that spargo has the edge. He has a 70% win record against sonix overall and has won 5/7 sets that they’ve played in the last two weeks.
It's funny that Leo is the same way refuses to have faith despite winning. I will say that corrin feel pretty boring to play IMO, no fun tech and specials other than pin aren't very usable
@@aaronjosephs6233 I can see that. But those two play to win, and corrin can help with that. She also can get tricky/cheesy with her fsmash and neutral special. Other than that she is a solid swordie that fits them and the meta too well to not consider taking seriously
@@himmyneutron3560 Leo is just completely lost with his character choices, spargo I understand being hesitant to switch much since he barely loses to anyone with cloud
@@aaronjosephs6233Corrin have no fun tech? Have you seen SHADIC play? Corrin probably has some of the craziest movement in the game with the fastest dash frame in the game. In his fight against Kola you can clearly see SHADIC utilize Corrin micro dash and end up moonwalking around the stages. Also Corrin frame traps/ledge traps are just funny. It's like a juggler juggling ball but the enemy is the ball. There's a reason why the kid never dropped Corrin for more than 5 years.
High-level Sonic players: Sonix, KEN, Wrath, Taikei. They're all top 100 in the world and solo main the character(KEN has basically dropped Sephiroth). One could also mention Peli, he won a major after all, even if it's a while ago. High-level Cloud players: Sparg0 and, uh... Rizeazu and Yaura have a pocket Cloud, does that count? And then I guess you have Enhanced pv and YOC, if we're feeling generous we could say they are high-level.
@@Jonas-jx3kw KEN has been a top player since the game's release. Wrath has also been very good for a long time: for example, he got 5th at Frostbite 2020 where Tea double-eliminated him. They both benefited from the innovations made by Sonix, but they've always been doing well. I'm not aware of Taikei or Peli being trained by Sonix, but I could be wrong. Anyway, all I had to prove is that Sonic is more popular at the top level than Cloud and I did exactly that.
Nintendo keeps trying to screw us, but like the GOAT Mango said, we are the cockroaches of E-Sports! You will never fully get rid of Nintendo! Hit us with your best shot!!
Spargo sucks. Sonix just played out his mind here. He was doing stuff Sonic players don't do, and that was enough to shake spargo. Spargo kept doing the same stuff, and it gets old, lol
@@Jonas-jx3kw no it’s not , sonic is pretty good on fd. Spargo didn’t want the platforms in his way for clouds aerials. Ps2 is too easy to get camped by sonic if he doesn’t have the lead, Smashvile big platform in middle doesn’t help cloud. Town and city , to easy to die against sonic due to blast zones Small battlefield is good but smaller than fd so more of a chance to get edge guarded Kalos is banned by sonix Fd is reasonable
This honestly felt like the first time someone really punished Clouds recovery against Spargo and really didn’t let him get back on stage for free
And it just required the best freaking sonic, excelent spring usage from sonix tbh it was such an amazing set, and he even managed to punish the limit recovery i didn’t even noticed but when i rewatched it was like “WOW he punished limit?!” no matter how good spargo recovers if one of the best out stage players efficiently edgeguard you you’re screwed and sonix finally started using all that tools the spring the fair and even the backair without fear 🙌🔥
Y’all forget about Light.
He's not really a threat right now tho@@N-cubed
you should watch their set at genesis lol
@@sebastianvilla2413he's definitely a threat to Spargo though
These two have been in grand finals in the coin box so many times, and now it’s finally in person
Sonix winning too jus like his online runs
@@FarhanKhanFarubeen a min since Sonix took it online
sonic is so cringe he can carry a player online or offline@@FarhanKhanFaru
@@Myst1c_OW hating dawg like I hate Sonic too but cmon he ain’t that carried
the fact u had to say "that carried" means u know urself hes carried@@FarhanKhanFaru
Amazing how no matter what these two will always end up in Grands
47th on smash con??!
This is some of the best I've ever seen Sonix play. No time-outs, no egregious camping, just pure immaculate spacing and skill. Absolutely deserved win. This is the exact opposite of grands at Watch the Throne and you can tell that Sonix took that L personally. Man tightened up his gameplay and really focused and he crushed it.
Spargo was also playing like the best player in the world at wtt. No one on earth could have beat him that night.
@@jusspimpintbf sonix said himself he forgot how to play the cloud matchup since he hadn’t played it in a long time.
this time he was prepared
@@hypedup8081 Right. His preparedness definitely showed that's for sure.
Sonix be farming like an industrial agricultural lord, this man is unstoppable.
Spargo double jumping out of disadvantage was the Achilles heel for him. As an extension of that, he was getting edge guarded far more efficiently than normal. Also spargo throwing out back airs and fairs that we’re canceling before they came out was indicative of his play. Interesting stuff.
Sparg0 was a little off his game, and Sonix played like a god. The flip of WTT. These two are so evenly matched, it’s a great rivalry
who took 49th on smash con 2023
@@veng-x6s this isn’t smash con, get your head out of the clouds.
Sonix has literally perfect shielding and spacing dawg it's crazy. Not to mention great edge guards
7:51 *DOUBLE PARRY !*
Sonix’s parries were so on point this set. That, coupled with the reads and mix-ups he was going for, and you can tell just from this set alone how often these two have faced each other.
Man, that was definitely pride. He didn't switch off Cloud because he wanted to beat Sonix with him, almost like "I did it last week, I can do it again".
5 Coinbox Offline Grands alone in 2023 since GOML
It’ll probably double 2024 lmao
And 7 Acola-Miya offline sets this year, including two grand finals and three winners finals. That number is also likely to be even higher next year. Crazy stuff.
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Did spargo win a game with corrin then not play her for the entire rest if the set?! Am i the only one who thinks thats wild???
He understood that he cheesed that win and wasn't confident he could take another much less 2 more
It was dumb of him to not try again
@@rizvan1632 it was nearly a jv2 with no especially cheesy kills. It's strange that he didn't try again at least once
@@rizvan1632 I agree partially, I could tell in his play that sonix would’ve adapted and won the proceeding games. Despite the 2 stock win he did not play dominantly in the match. But set 2 he should’ve started with corrin, and if it was an L then switch back. No reason to not try again in that situation.
Cloud back air go brr
Congrats to Sonix for the last W of 2023, hopefully next year we will get even more wins! 💪🏻🦔🔵🇩🇴
And GG's to everyone else. 👏🏻
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That actually very hype! 🤯 One of the best grand finals I’ve seen in a while! 🤯
The quality of the matches was insane! Spargo played out of his mind and Sonix played like a mad man! 🤯
Keep the tourneys up Hbox! We love them!!
really happy for sonix
ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND!!!!
bruh
Yeah escape from the city
Sonix looking like a top 1 player with those edgeguards love to see it
Kicking ass as always. Our boi is back and ready for 2024. GO SONIX!
Congrats Sonix! I'm glad you learned both the matchup of Cloud and Aegis❤
I hope Spargo will lab Corrin next as much as Leo's Corrin and take back Sonix's throne.
12:20 DDD’s dash attack by far 😂
I was shocked they didn’t say terry his dash is stronger than warios
bro sonic parry after touching the ground is insane! 7:51
Finally. We get to see the true potential of a Sonic main
Sleep
Finally a sonic player using actual contact for the first time in ultimate
Not a huge sonic fan but I gotta give it up to sonix for being so consistently solid. Fantastic player
Finally someone calling out spargos bad jumps with cloud
Ngl, I legitimately want Sparg0 to pick up Corrin
Sonix es increíble la verdad es lo mejor de lo mejor Gracias por poner a sonic en cima de mario en su propio juego sonic number 1
Una cosita. Este no es el juego de Mario.
@@extremetwisterplays1850 "Super Smash Bros." comparte un nombre con "Super Mario Bros." 🤔
That ending was intense. Can't give spargo room to breath
7:46 and on was f*cking godlike from sonix. Those shields and parries were insane
Sonix really OUTPLAYED Sparg0 this time. His parries, neutral, punishes... Sonix was playing on his own level considering that Sonic loses the match over Sparg0's characters
Spargo might want to optimize his Corrin for Sonix moving forward.
Lets go Sonix!! Got your revenge on Spargos Cloud and well deserved, we can clearly see you worked alot on this matchup!
Sonix vs Spargo is THE rivalry of Smash Ultimate.
Wrong. That would be Tweek vs MKleo
Fair enough, but I'd argue Spargo vs Sonix is an even better rivalry, because throughout the peak of Tweek and Mkleo's rivlalry, Mkleo was the one that won the most by far. In fact, Mkleo was kind of famous for "destroying Tweek's hope of being the best in the world by always winning against him in grands finals". Basically, Leo was more Tweek's demon, than an actual rival to trade sets with. Spargo and Sonix meanwhile trade games way more often, and that makes the gap between the two players, and by extension, their rivalry, even tighter.@@inarencommander4663
@@inarencommander4663I think this guy was talking about current ult not overall
Im loving this rivalry!
I swear i saw a version of this set where Spargo destroyed Sonix! I'm either insane or from an alternate universe 😬😬
You're thinking of Winners Finals, perhaps?
Yeah I saw that too, it was hard to find grand finals online yesterday for some reason
watch the throne
Let’s goooo!! Sonixxxx is great!
Sonix is the GOAT!
仲良いなこいつら
Guess I need to start competing in Coinbox. I've been wanting to do so, but my internet connection just isn't the most reliable.
7:50 OH MY LORD 😲
Drinking game: take a shot every time sonix runs away to the other side of the stage
Shut up bro you can’t even say he was camping this set. And what you just said is called neutral Ik smash bros players don’t really understand what that is so I don’t blame you.
@jaydenvaporwave1772 I never said he camped, all I said was he'd hit and run lmao
@@haydenbennett3547because sonic is a hit and run character 😭
Honestly the lack of Corrin alt play I feel really messed up Spargo. It was obvious Sonix was comfy with the matchup, and that character switch up broke that game plan even if it was just a bit. GGS to both
Sonix has really improved
Dedede has the strongest dash attack
Sonix the swordie killer
Los 2 mejores del mundo
Acola es mejor que Sparg0 aunque en su matchup personal vaya perdiendo. Acola solo pierde con Sonix y con Sparg0.
Sin duda alguna bro los dos mejores del mundo
All those clowns that said Sonix and even Spargo would get found out when we go back offline been real quiet.
Your comment made no sense.
Huh?
He meant that people who thought that Sonix and Sparg0 were carried by the online were quiet once their offline results skyrocketed.
Felicidades a Sonix por su victoria y gracias por poner a RD en alto >D
These are clearly top 2 in the world.
Only thought I could think of with sticking with Cloud is that Spargo wanted to learn the matchup for future tournaments
I was thinking the same and wants to save the corrin for Genesis
sonix did the double fast fall 12:47
To the people who complain in the comments about Sonix winning and the match in general please touch grass
Subscribed!!! Great tournament! 👏
Well 30:32 is the point for everyone to look at if you just wanna see the result like i did
Damn! This could be considered a MURDER. 😵
I have that same exact donkey Kong stuffy… I won it from a claw machine lmao
Sonix finally realized that Cloud's recovery is trash
Why do you mean that cloud’s recovery is trash.
I used to hate sonix because of my hate for sonic, but he’s a good dude and is only getting better, keep it up man
No way same finals that’s crazy
I’m glad that happened to spargo for being so stubborn
You're goddamn right that I subscribed.
LETS GO SONIX!!!!!!
24:44 Yeet Smash, I got you.
Sick matches. Cloud is awesome
We had it so good in 2019 and we didn't realize it. We went from Mkleo as the best player, to fuck'ng Sonix 🤢
very sad Spargo couldn’t win, he will come back stronger
They’ll go back n forth trust
They’re both pretty even in skill if you ask me.
@@asuuki2048 agreed
They’ll probably go back and forth but it’s clear that spargo has the edge. He has a 70% win record against sonix overall and has won 5/7 sets that they’ve played in the last two weeks.
@@tristaninman1638 Sonix will change that trust
Let’s gooo Sonix 🇩🇴
And some say that Sonix only times out people... 🤦🏻♂️
Sonix has been optimizing sonic a lot these last 2 months.
Spargo did win a game with Corrin then some reason stuck with Cloud
I think he knew Sonix would have adapted to it
What’s the next big event where a lot of the top ten will be?
Sonix' ledge guards were on point and spargo's weren't this time
Online or offline results don’t change
この2人、あこーらミーヤー感ある
Irrefutable proof Sonix is goated.
Bro rooting for sonic?
@@Jumogasyou gonna tell me my mans didn’t play out his mind this set
@@jaydenvaporwave1772 I never said he didn’t play well sonix played phenomenal but sonic is lame to watch and does the same move half the game
@@jaydenvaporwave1772 also out the 8 sets they played that week Sparg0 won 6 of them
It’s time to take corrin seriously… leo too…
It's funny that Leo is the same way refuses to have faith despite winning. I will say that corrin feel pretty boring to play IMO, no fun tech and specials other than pin aren't very usable
@@aaronjosephs6233 I can see that. But those two play to win, and corrin can help with that. She also can get tricky/cheesy with her fsmash and neutral special. Other than that she is a solid swordie that fits them and the meta too well to not consider taking seriously
@@himmyneutron3560 Leo is just completely lost with his character choices, spargo I understand being hesitant to switch much since he barely loses to anyone with cloud
@@aaronjosephs6233Corrin have no fun tech? Have you seen SHADIC play? Corrin probably has some of the craziest movement in the game with the fastest dash frame in the game. In his fight against Kola you can clearly see SHADIC utilize Corrin micro dash and end up moonwalking around the stages. Also Corrin frame traps/ledge traps are just funny. It's like a juggler juggling ball but the enemy is the ball. There's a reason why the kid never dropped Corrin for more than 5 years.
do you still have the vods ceo 2023 sets before top 8 like esam riku
Sonix the best in the world. The cloud main had no chance, plus cloud crazy broken that’s why you see many clouds
High-level Sonic players: Sonix, KEN, Wrath, Taikei. They're all top 100 in the world and solo main the character(KEN has basically dropped Sephiroth). One could also mention Peli, he won a major after all, even if it's a while ago.
High-level Cloud players: Sparg0 and, uh... Rizeazu and Yaura have a pocket Cloud, does that count? And then I guess you have Enhanced pv and YOC, if we're feeling generous we could say they are high-level.
all trained by sonix so ?@@legrandliseurtri7495
@@Jonas-jx3kw KEN has been a top player since the game's release. Wrath has also been very good for a long time: for example, he got 5th at Frostbite 2020 where Tea double-eliminated him. They both benefited from the innovations made by Sonix, but they've always been doing well. I'm not aware of Taikei or Peli being trained by Sonix, but I could be wrong.
Anyway, all I had to prove is that Sonic is more popular at the top level than Cloud and I did exactly that.
How do these two keep ending up in grands all the time?
HBox going to be a Cloud main. Watch
That Cloud FSmash hurrrtttt
Why is there no one in the venue ?
07:53 es hermoso lo que hizo sonix
Sonix really worked on the match up but sparg0 played so bad. Disappointed to see him loose. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Spargo played well but sonix played better
GG sonix 💪
Dominican 🇩🇴 🎉
So enjoyable to watch sonic gameplay really cool such skills
Gz dude
I saw Spargo a kind of tired and gave up in the last 2 games 😮💨
Spargo is the best what? lol
He would have won if he didn't reveal his game plan at Watch the Throne.
I think he’d rather win Watch the Throne than Coinbox Lmao
I'm curious what effect this will have on the rankings. Can Sparg0 get number 2 regardless? Or is he even in danger of not being top 3 at this point?
He's number 3 with a considerable amount of chances. Number 2 gies to Miya probably
@@GrampsSteelI think he is going to be number 3 only if it's a ranking of the whole year.
Nintendo keeps trying to screw us, but like the GOAT Mango said, we are the cockroaches of E-Sports!
You will never fully get rid of Nintendo! Hit us with your best shot!!
7:49 GOD
Spargo sucks. Sonix just played out his mind here. He was doing stuff Sonic players don't do, and that was enough to shake spargo. Spargo kept doing the same stuff, and it gets old, lol
Congratulations sonix
Does anyone know why Spargo didn’t ban FD? That seems like a obvious ban
fd is sonics worst stage
@@Jonas-jx3kw Interesting. I feel platforms help Spargo more than sonix. Thanks tho. I’ll keep this in mind
it helps them both@@sammoisture4876
@@Jonas-jx3kw no it’s not , sonic is pretty good on fd. Spargo didn’t want the platforms in his way for clouds aerials.
Ps2 is too easy to get camped by sonic if he doesn’t have the lead,
Smashvile big platform in middle doesn’t help cloud.
Town and city , to easy to die against sonic due to blast zones
Small battlefield is good but smaller than fd so more of a chance to get edge guarded
Kalos is banned by sonix
Fd is reasonable
Shut your goofy ah up sonix said it himselfsonic is better with platforms fd is his worst stage doesnt mean he is bad on fd@@basil1913
ソニックス強すぎ
誰が勝てるんだ…?
ソニック
skipped through to see who wins after 2 games. Literally could not watch more of sonic before falling asleep lol. congrats to the winner I guess
Sonix goated
Im lost at spargo's destion making in the set , won with corrin amd never pick her back again , no charging off F.D