That engine is the 6.5 HP Harbour freight 'predator' (USA). In Canada, it is the Princess Auto 6.5 HP Power Fist. Mine is hooked up to a 4gpm-3200 psi pressure washer. Good for 2000 psi with this 6.5 Engine.
Someone should tear-down one of these engines and analyze the components to see if they indeed have substandard components. Lifan gives a 3 yr. warranty at Home Depot. So this won't be necessary.
i have a 5 or6 year old 11 hp honda clone i got on ebay, called a 'vortex'. red & white and looks exactly like a honda. the sales pitch said parts were interchangeable with hondas. anybody heard of these or know anything about them? i had plans to mount it on a kart but never did and it's only been run an a few occassions. any more info about 'em? thanks
i hate to jump in but i fix several of these monthly seeing qc is a moving belt im not surprised as the most fixes are improper torque or bolts holding the con rod to the shaft
Yes, and when the ole con rod lets go, you have a real quality break in low quality engine! That is a BIG failure. Chinese steel is inferior. Taiwan made engine parts are better quality steel.
never tried taiwan to be honest. but def agreed high carbon steel hence why kitanas users had to be trained to use the swords a special way due to high percentage of carbon in the steel they shattered easily
Donna Jackson Hi Donna, It seems the races that use many of these engines UPGRADE them with bore kits made in Taiwan, they all swear by those. I work on them a little, haven't done any rebuilds yet....currently have a 212 cc China engine knocking badly!
oops forgot to mention im her husband lol i dotn have my own prophile. but yeah i might wanna look into that sounds neat im mostly in fully building bikes for certain people alot of hand work involved and such so you get a feel for the engines workings if you will mind you the working behind the 212cc is great in a way but as you said the material is poor. one of the bikes i have a 1974 ct70 by honda has a decent running engine that has been ran with low oil ect and beaten on its entire life before i got it but it still ran before i worked it, the chinese clones they make of that same engine? last one good season maybe and turn tempermental or into useless paperweights due to faster than normal wear on parts
Donna Jackson One thing about it for sure, the price sure is enticing to the American Public. I have priced NEW Hondas vs. China clones and they are not even close. They SAY you get what you pay for, and if the one currently on my workbench is any indication of that...it rings true!
@mrcoolman68 Nice triple post. Honda now only rates the 196cc GX200 as 5.5HP @ 3600RPM, not sure why. I have heard that Honda redesigned the cylinder heads and that is the cause of the lower power. Maybe the clones are still using the older style? Anyway the GX160 is now only rated for 4.8HP and I have an old genuine Honda GX160 that says 5.5HP right on the recoil starter.
Peut-être pour réduire les émissions polluantes à l' échappement ? En Europe, les moteurs thermiques de motoculture, doivent être aux normes anti-pollution, à partir d' une certaine cylindrée.
If i made 20 bucks or more an hour i might be able to afford American made products but when the workers that make these "good" products which are a few workers anyway make more money and drive the prices up for those that cannot make as much as them and this is the shit.
Briggs and stratton had to turn to Mitsubishi to try to compete with the honda gx series with vanguard then failed then they gave up and blatantly copied the honda because they could not beat it
The Chongquig China factory is a Honda joint venture with Jialing-Honda Motors Co. Purpose seems to be for making cheap low cost versions of the original Honda engines. I guess the real cheap ones don't carry the Honda name, but the models like GP160H and GP200H are badged with the Honda name. So actually, these clone engines are Honda engines that Honda doesn't want their name on. The conversation here is interesting, do most of you realize that Honda is NOT an American company... just because some people in NC might be assembling Chinese castings into Japanese Honda engines, doesn't make it an American engine, think about it.
"Chinese castings into Japanese Honda engines."? I doubt that those "castings" you speak off are the internal ENGINE parts; possibly external. If that were so, then Honda would be unable to put "MADE IN JAPAN" on their engines.
@danielthechskid oh that you tube was being stupid and did not post my commet so I kept trying and it seemed to go through but yeah the clones are about the same but not name brand
If i want real quality , i always buy old American made machinery, tools , and trucks. I drive a 1986 F 150 that never lets me down, and i will never put this baby in a crusher.
Seems like most of the Chinese factory vids are just a show of the finished product...maybe they are hiding the reason their products are of such low quality(but not lacking in flash).
Cool to see how they smile as they are walking to work .. I say if you don't have a job make one of your own..everybody can do something,,,it's in there ,,,just got to find out what you like to do, get busy and don't look back...
if you want a HONDA go buy a HONDA,here on mi country is about 800$ a 5.5HP,but a clone(i have one)is 180$.If you take care of him(mine has 3 years and it works fine).A profesional tool is made for profesional people,and i'm not one.Of course i'm not happy they're cloned the HONDA but if it run's like it its ok for me...
NOT ME, I have one Predator right now. I wasnt paying $425+45 shipping to upgrade the power level on my one snowblower when I could get the same result for $100. $370 less. But the rest of my machines have Anerican made engines, 4 Tecumseh powered snowblowers, 2 more spare 2 cycles on the shelf. One Briggs platinum plus on another. One 1994 Toro Super pro with a Briggs quantum 550. The other is a Troybilt with the Honda GCV190. One generator powered by a Tecumseh HM100 the other with a Briggs 10.5OHV. The jiffy ice auger, thats got a good Tecumseh on it. 2 more Tecumsehs sitting in the shed a 69 H50 and a 78 HS50. I got one Briggs 6.5 OHV 206cc OHV engine this week for free, an engine that retails for around $400. I will not pay retail prices for name brand engines anymore when I can get the same power and performance for a quarter of the cost of a name brand. I paid $150 last winter for a Super clean 1971 Tecumseh H70 that came off a 71 Ariens to keep mine original. Its starts and runs good, but its 46 years old and its tired. The engine doesnt go above 3300 rpm, it burns oil down to the add area within 2 hours and its lacking power. So I kept that machine original, but at what cost? I could have put another Predator 212cc on that machine, and I run those engines at 4500 rpm no problem, so for $100 bucks I could have turned that 1971 Ariens into a beast with a new lease on life. I'm kinda regretting right now. But that engine is ready to be retired and it will be in the next couple years. Then I am dropping a Predator 212cc on it. I'm not paying $470 for an NOS Tecumseh that will give me the same power and result and I'm sure the hell not paying even more for a chinese made Briggs thats even more expensive, although that 206cc Briggs OHV intek may do the trick, which cost me nothing, will see... Its not be that caused this 90% of my equipment is Briggs and Tecumseh powered but when the machine needs a new engine, I'm not paying 5x more for a name brand Chinese motor all based off the same Honda design when I can get the same thing for $100. That was the United States fault all the way for allowing China and others to rip us off blind on the one sided trade deal. Blame corporate America for wanting to make max profit at as low cost as possible by outsourcing American jobs and for the politicians in Washington for allowing China to flood the market with really cheap products built by people making less than a dollar an hour. Its been going on 30 plus years and it finally caught up with us and a lot of that cannot be reversed. The genie is out of the bottle. There are much larger parts at play here, than one person. Its much larger than any one person. The crap being made and sold today is garbage compared to what was built 20 years ago. Thats why most of my equipment was made in 2002 and back, but there are exceptions. That Predator engine is one. I wont by a piece of crap machine made today, no way. But when my 45 year old piece of American Iron needs a new engine, I don't chuck it and buy crap, I keep it alive with todays powerful, efficient engines and it doesn't cost me my arm, I'm far from the problem. The uneducated consumer that goes out and buys todays crap not knowing or caring where it is built or what the quality is, just the price is tge problem, along with corporate Anerica pushing it. I could buy a used American made piece of equipment 20 years old for a fraction of what someone pays for the new crap in the store and I'm still way better off. I'm far from the problem,the problem is a large scale assault on American manufacturing and consumerism. TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIDEOS OF ALL MY MACHINES, ALL BUT ONE HAS A CHINESE MADE ENGINE, EVERYTHING ELSE WAS AMERICAN MADE AND HAVE AMERICAN MADE ENGINES. MANY OF WHICH I DID NOT PAY A DIME FOR.
Everyone knows Honda started in Japan there headquarters is in Japan. Briggs are being built in that same town now too. As a matter of fact that was my Uncle's Job when they still built engines in America. There all out of work now, thats where the jobs went. Anyway that engine is just like the Predator 212cc and they are quality work horse engines's. They cost $99 bucks on sale here in the USA. Leave it to the Chinese...... Its not like we want to build anything anymore anyway, thats why were going bankrupt. Why doesnt everyone who see's this video email Briggs and Stratton and ask how many jobs were lost since 2012. When they moved production to China and why the H they were allowed to do it. Made in USa of American and Global parts my ass. There made and assembled in China now...
Whatever, Japan is fine. We blew the shit out of Japan in 1945 and then the United States rebuilt it. Products coming out of Japan are excellent. Its not China. Originally Vanguard was built herex so the change was to there. If you say so. I'll take your word for it, until I look into it personally to see. Briggs cast Iron engine line are also still built and sold in Southeast Asia as well. We cant have Briggs cast Iron engines in the U.S. anymore because of the epa. Thanks again. This country and its ridiculous policies and policy makers, as well as greed is what destroyed everything. The U.S. should have backed itself and its companies up, they didn't thats why things are the way they are now. A lot if these companies werent at fault this Country was. Briggs had to leave here to survive. There are Briggs engines still built in the USA. Not many but there are.. However Honda-American motor company and Kawasaki makes the majority of there small engines right here. Its ass backwards. Weather your right, wrong the point is, its all fucked up.
Vanguards are not Honda clones. There snowblower engine is a honda clone. The Vanguards including the marine engines put on the back of boats is a Briggs and Stratton engineered design. The Vanguard line up of engines are Briggs best. There are many types. Marine, tractor, industrial equipment, etc.
Fearless Front look at the single cylinder vanguard engines that are not made by Mitsubishi, they are just Chinese made Honda clones since the Briggs and Stratton/Mitsubishi agreement ended in 2010. Tell me sir what I have been wrong on?
stupid people hate these engines they are great replacements and are a quarter of the price of the rip off briggs and straton version and as far as honda goes they are near identical china dosent believe in copy rights ask BMW they got copied and lost when they sued all i can say is if you havent used one shut up
It has nothing to do with unions. It's about people being cheap fucks and buying an inferior product. They're too stupid to realize that if you spend more up front for the good Honda engine, you will have a product that will run for 10-20 years versus 5 if you're lucky, with a Chinese engine. Honda engines are made in Swepsonville, North Carolina and have been since the 1980's.
''over priced Hondas showed up''? the Honda gx series killed the briggs and Stratton cast iron engines, because the gx has a aluminium block with a cast iron cylinder sleeve so get a durable commercial engine that is light weight and a little bit cheaper and much more reliable. Even honda's gc series engines which are their homeowner line still blows brigs out of the water. (and they are made in the USA unlike briggs) It seems now that briggs and Stratton are now copying Honda with their vanguard line they can't even match it so they copy it!!
Briggs and stratton had to turn to Mitsubishi to try to compete with the honda gx series with vanguard then failed then they gave up and blatantly copied the honda because they could not beat it!!!
The American consumer has been brainwashed to think cheaper is better, and of course the Corporations want as much profit as possible. How many times have you heard "can you get it cheaper off shore" And we are shipping all these jobs off shore. I sure do hope the Chinese never get pissed at the US and stop shipping there shit over here..boy would the US be screwed ! ! ! I try to buy US made items but it is getting near impossible, I get tired of having to buy their cheap shit and having to replace it all the time. faucets lights plumbing stuff electrical it's all cheap shit. And the American public wonders why the unemployment is so high...DUH keep buying Chinese Crap, and it won't get better.
If we tried to make a system that wasted the most possible finite resources,and kept the VAST majority of the world far below the poverty line. We would end up with a system that looked really similar to.........Capitalism!!! I totally agree Americans should have never started buying Junk from over seas. America used to be the pride of the Automotive world, now Detroit is........Bankrupt!! and now even American cars and trucks are filled with parts made in Asia. I am as Canadian and my brother works for a company that makes high end metal doors and he got phoned by a American company that wanted to buy doors not assembled so they could assemble them in America and put a stamp on it saying Made in USA!! too funny......but also kind of sad
Nathan Fraser Yes it is and the real sad part is we have door plants here in the USA that make doors. A side point, even stuff made in Canada is considered Made in North America.. cheers...
Roy Cagle NO THANKS ! ! ! I've seen enough of their crap...their tractors and equipment, don't need to see their cars, thats probably why other nations are so anxious to sell their cars there and why the demand for US and Japanese cars is so great...
Wilbur Finnigan No, all our manufacturing base is tooled and operational its just sitting idle. If the USA embargoes China THEY would be screwed, not us.
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Well, that was a waste of time, some people in the street waving and some engines sitting on a conveyor belt, that's it!
What they call "Chongqing" in modern times was "Chungking" in the old days.
That engine is the 6.5 HP Harbour freight 'predator' (USA). In Canada, it is the Princess Auto 6.5 HP Power Fist. Mine is hooked up to a 4gpm-3200 psi pressure washer. Good for 2000 psi with this 6.5 Engine.
Someone should tear-down one of these engines and analyze the components to see if they indeed have substandard components. Lifan gives a 3 yr. warranty at Home Depot. So this won't be necessary.
I wonder if China will ever make an original item? Copying is easy, it's time to be original.
Ceci devrait arriver. Mais un clone de moteur bien connu, rassure les clients.
I endorse moving Briggs&Stratton back home along with Craftsman tools!
i have a 5 or6 year old 11 hp honda clone i got on ebay, called a 'vortex'. red & white and looks exactly like a honda. the sales pitch said parts were interchangeable with hondas. anybody heard of these or know anything about them? i had plans to mount it on a kart but never did and it's only been run an a few occassions. any more info about 'em? thanks
i hate to jump in but i fix several of these monthly seeing qc is a moving belt im not surprised as the most fixes are improper torque or bolts holding the con rod to the shaft
Yes, and when the ole con rod lets go, you have a real quality break in low quality engine! That is a BIG failure. Chinese steel is inferior. Taiwan made engine parts are better quality steel.
never tried taiwan to be honest. but def agreed high carbon steel hence why kitanas users had to be trained to use the swords a special way due to high percentage of carbon in the steel they shattered easily
Donna Jackson
Hi Donna, It seems the races that use many of these engines UPGRADE them with bore kits made in Taiwan, they all swear by those. I work on them a little, haven't done any rebuilds yet....currently have a 212 cc China engine knocking badly!
oops forgot to mention im her husband lol i dotn have my own prophile. but yeah i might wanna look into that sounds neat im mostly in fully building bikes for certain people alot of hand work involved and such so you get a feel for the engines workings if you will mind you the working behind the 212cc is great in a way but as you said the material is poor. one of the bikes i have a 1974 ct70 by honda has a decent running engine that has been ran with low oil ect and beaten on its entire life before i got it but it still ran before i worked it, the chinese clones they make of that same engine? last one good season maybe and turn tempermental or into useless paperweights due to faster than normal wear on parts
Donna Jackson One thing about it for sure, the price sure is enticing to the American Public. I have priced NEW Hondas vs. China clones and they are not even close. They SAY you get what you pay for, and if the one currently on my workbench is any indication of that...it rings true!
@jackpontiac52 thats a 6.0 not a 6.5. predator 212cc is 6.5hp, viper 196cc is 6.0 hp theres a difference
Clone engines and VERY GOOD and Better than Briggs
What do you base your opinion on? Have you used this brand?
These might be fairly decent engines, as long as they are cheap and have decent quality
in china we makeum good me love you long time
I'll never forget the day that I saw a yamasaki in Macau
I wish china would copy the Briggs/Toro R*TEK 2 cycle engine since Briggs stopped making them in 2011.
they were made by lawn boy not briggs
That's a good thing. Small power equipment emissions were out of control.
Rato engine?
Piston rings are real shitty. They wear out quick and you cannot find a replacement for them.
Believe these engines are made to look at. When come to quality it is not much.
@mrcoolman68 Nice triple post. Honda now only rates the 196cc GX200 as 5.5HP @ 3600RPM, not sure why.
I have heard that Honda redesigned the cylinder heads and that is the cause of the lower power. Maybe the clones are still using the older style? Anyway the GX160 is now only rated for 4.8HP and I have an old genuine Honda GX160 that says 5.5HP right on the recoil starter.
Peut-être pour réduire les émissions polluantes à l' échappement ?
En Europe, les moteurs thermiques de motoculture, doivent être aux normes anti-pollution, à partir d' une certaine cylindrée.
This isn't a video of a factory, just a few completed engines being 'QC' checked with a exterior visual once-over.
Fail
2017 Subaru Robin sold its small engines to Yamaha !!!!!!!!
If i made 20 bucks or more an hour i might be able to afford American made products but when the workers that make these "good" products which are a few workers anyway make more money and drive the prices up for those that cannot make as much as them and this is the shit.
i have a BE gas engine Chinese Clone
works ok
just the Choke lever kind of Cheap plastic !!!!!!!!!!
Still works
All the negative comments about China engines. Funny... Im old enough to remember the exact same thing being said about Honda.
Briggs and stratton had to turn to Mitsubishi to try to compete with the honda gx series with vanguard then failed then they gave up and blatantly copied the honda because they could not beat it
The Chongquig China factory is a Honda joint venture with Jialing-Honda Motors Co. Purpose seems to be for making cheap low cost versions of the original Honda engines. I guess the real cheap ones don't carry the Honda name, but the models like GP160H and GP200H are badged with the Honda name. So actually, these clone engines are Honda engines that Honda doesn't want their name on. The conversation here is interesting, do most of you realize that Honda is NOT an American company... just because some people in NC might be assembling Chinese castings into Japanese Honda engines, doesn't make it an American engine, think about it.
"Chinese castings into Japanese Honda engines."? I doubt that those "castings" you speak off are the internal ENGINE parts; possibly external. If that were so, then Honda would be unable to put "MADE IN JAPAN" on their engines.
These Viper engines were made for go carts and mini bikes sold at Tractor Supply.
@danielthechskid oh that you tube was being stupid and did not post my commet so I kept trying and it seemed to go through but yeah the clones are about the same but not name brand
Will next year's engines come shipped with pretty Chinese woman?
If i want real quality , i always buy old American made machinery, tools , and trucks. I drive a 1986 F 150 that never lets me down, and i will never put this baby in a crusher.
Chonda!
Seems like most of the Chinese factory vids are just a show of the finished product...maybe they are hiding the reason their products are of such low quality(but not lacking in flash).
Cool to see how they smile as they are walking to work .. I say if you don't have a job make one of your own..everybody can do something,,,it's in there ,,,just got to find out what you like to do, get busy and don't look back...
if you want a HONDA go buy a HONDA,here on mi country is about 800$ a 5.5HP,but a clone(i have one)is 180$.If you take care of him(mine has 3 years and it works fine).A profesional tool is made for profesional people,and i'm not one.Of course i'm not happy they're cloned the HONDA but if it run's like it its ok for me...
Damn you got ripped. I got my 6.5hp 212cc Predator Honda clone for $99 bucks. The engine is a quality workhorse.
+-Doug - czhiearn.en.made-in-china.com/product-group/VqzxsGHlXUcO/Gasoline-Engine-Series-catalog-1.html as you see we all got ripped:))))))))))
George Ghibi He paid double for the same engine. :-)
NOT ME, I have one Predator right now. I wasnt paying $425+45 shipping to upgrade the power level on my one snowblower when I could get the same result for $100. $370 less. But the rest of my machines have Anerican made engines, 4 Tecumseh powered snowblowers, 2 more spare 2 cycles on the shelf. One Briggs platinum plus on another. One 1994 Toro Super pro with a Briggs quantum 550. The other is a Troybilt with the Honda GCV190. One generator powered by a Tecumseh HM100 the other with a Briggs 10.5OHV. The jiffy ice auger, thats got a good Tecumseh on it. 2 more Tecumsehs sitting in the shed a 69 H50 and a 78 HS50. I got one Briggs 6.5 OHV 206cc OHV engine this week for free, an engine that retails for around $400. I will not pay retail prices for name brand engines anymore when I can get the same power and performance for a quarter of the cost of a name brand. I paid $150 last winter for a Super clean 1971 Tecumseh H70 that came off a 71 Ariens to keep mine original. Its starts and runs good, but its 46 years old and its tired. The engine doesnt go above 3300 rpm, it burns oil down to the add area within 2 hours and its lacking power. So I kept that machine original, but at what cost? I could have put another Predator 212cc on that machine, and I run those engines at 4500 rpm no problem, so for $100 bucks I could have turned that 1971 Ariens into a beast with a new lease on life. I'm kinda regretting right now. But that engine is ready to be retired and it will be in the next couple years. Then I am dropping a Predator 212cc on it. I'm not paying $470 for an NOS Tecumseh that will give me the same power and result and I'm sure the hell not paying even more for a chinese made Briggs thats even more expensive, although that 206cc Briggs OHV intek may do the trick, which cost me nothing, will see...
Its not be that caused this 90% of my equipment is Briggs and Tecumseh powered but when the machine needs a new engine, I'm not paying 5x more for a name brand Chinese motor all based off the same Honda design when I can get the same thing for $100. That was the United States fault all the way for allowing China and others to rip us off blind on the one sided trade deal. Blame corporate America for wanting to make max profit at as low cost as possible by outsourcing American jobs and for the politicians in Washington for allowing China to flood the market with really cheap products built by people making less than a dollar an hour. Its been going on 30 plus years and it finally caught up with us and a lot of that cannot be reversed. The genie is out of the bottle. There are much larger parts at play here, than one person. Its much larger than any one person. The crap being made and sold today is garbage compared to what was built 20 years ago. Thats why most of my equipment was made in 2002 and back, but there are exceptions. That Predator engine is one. I wont by a piece of crap machine made today, no way. But when my 45 year old piece of American Iron needs a new engine, I don't chuck it and buy crap, I keep it alive with todays powerful, efficient engines and it doesn't cost me my arm, I'm far from the problem. The uneducated consumer that goes out and buys todays crap not knowing or caring where it is built or what the quality is, just the price is tge problem, along with corporate Anerica pushing it. I could buy a used American made piece of equipment 20 years old for a fraction of what someone pays for the new crap in the store and I'm still way better off. I'm far from the problem,the problem is a large scale assault on American manufacturing and consumerism.
TAKE A LOOK AT THE VIDEOS OF ALL MY MACHINES, ALL BUT ONE HAS A CHINESE MADE ENGINE, EVERYTHING ELSE WAS AMERICAN MADE AND HAVE AMERICAN MADE ENGINES. MANY OF WHICH I DID NOT PAY A DIME FOR.
From my experience, the chinese can make some decent engines, but things like the magnetos, electric starters, charging systems are still low quality
Everyone knows Honda started in Japan there headquarters is in Japan. Briggs are being built in that same town now too. As a matter of fact that was my Uncle's Job when they still built engines in America. There all out of work now, thats where the jobs went. Anyway that engine is just like the Predator 212cc and they are quality work horse engines's. They cost $99 bucks on sale here in the USA. Leave it to the Chinese......
Its not like we want to build anything anymore anyway, thats why were going bankrupt.
Why doesnt everyone who see's this video email Briggs and Stratton and ask how many jobs were lost since 2012. When they moved production to China and why the H they were allowed to do it. Made in USa of American and Global parts my ass. There made and assembled in China now...
Whatever, Japan is fine. We blew the shit out of Japan in 1945 and then the United States rebuilt it. Products coming out of Japan are excellent. Its not China. Originally Vanguard was built herex so the change was to there. If you say so. I'll take your word for it, until I look into it personally to see. Briggs cast Iron engine line are also still built and sold in Southeast Asia as well. We cant have Briggs cast Iron engines in the U.S. anymore because of the epa. Thanks again. This country and its ridiculous policies and policy makers, as well as greed is what destroyed everything. The U.S. should have backed itself and its companies up, they didn't thats why things are the way they are now. A lot if these companies werent at fault this Country was. Briggs had to leave here to survive. There are Briggs engines still built in the USA. Not many but there are..
However Honda-American motor company and Kawasaki makes the majority of there small engines right here. Its ass backwards. Weather your right, wrong the point is, its all fucked up.
soaringtractor the single cylinder vanguard's have been made in china since 2010!!
and they are just Honda clones
Vanguards are not Honda clones. There snowblower engine is a honda clone. The Vanguards including the marine engines put on the back of boats is a Briggs and Stratton engineered design. The Vanguard line up of engines are Briggs best. There are many types. Marine, tractor, industrial equipment, etc.
Fearless Front look at the single cylinder vanguard engines that are not made by Mitsubishi, they are just Chinese made Honda clones since the Briggs and Stratton/Mitsubishi agreement ended in 2010. Tell me sir what I have been wrong on?
Made in china The longibity is very low. I mean use and throo.
a CHONDA factory eh?
It's amazing that they can't build there own engines what there building is a Honda that they have ripped of
China has an amazing potential...
Too bad they like to waste it so much...
stupid people hate these engines they are great replacements and are a quarter of the price of the rip off briggs and straton version and as far as honda goes they are near identical china dosent believe in copy rights ask BMW they got copied and lost when they sued all i can say is if you havent used one shut up
Waste of time. Did not show ANYTHING!! With so many really cool documentaries out there showing engines being made, this one is a zero.
It has nothing to do with unions. It's about people being cheap fucks and buying an inferior product. They're too stupid to realize that if you spend more up front for the good Honda engine, you will have a product that will run for 10-20 years versus 5 if you're lucky, with a Chinese engine. Honda engines are made in Swepsonville, North Carolina and have been since the 1980's.
Agree 100 percent.
That's what the Chinese call quality control... just spin it around and put it in a box. Very laughable.
So are some of the nylon camshaft gears used in these low quality engines!
soaringtractor Briggs and stratton engines have always been shit that's why there are no briggs and stratton copies, not a patch on a honda
''over priced Hondas showed up''? the Honda gx series killed the briggs and Stratton cast iron engines, because the gx has a aluminium block with a cast iron cylinder sleeve so get a durable commercial engine that is light weight and a little bit cheaper and much more reliable. Even honda's gc series engines which are their homeowner line still blows brigs out of the water. (and they are made in the USA unlike briggs) It seems now that briggs and Stratton are now copying Honda with their vanguard line they can't even match it so they copy it!!
Briggs and stratton had to turn to Mitsubishi to try to compete with the honda gx series with vanguard then failed then they gave up and blatantly copied the honda because they could not beat it!!!
Briggs and Stratton is shit, why would you buy one when you can buy a chinese clone that is better quality than B/S for less money???
The American consumer has been brainwashed to think cheaper is better, and of course the Corporations want as much profit as possible. How many times have you heard "can you get it cheaper off shore" And we are shipping all these jobs off shore. I sure do hope the Chinese never get pissed at the US and stop shipping there shit over here..boy would the US be screwed ! ! ! I try to buy US made items but it is getting near impossible, I get tired of having to buy their cheap shit and having to replace it all the time. faucets lights plumbing stuff electrical it's all cheap shit. And the American public wonders why the unemployment is so high...DUH keep buying Chinese Crap, and it won't get better.
If we tried to make a system that wasted the most possible finite resources,and kept the VAST majority of the world far below the poverty line. We would end up with a system that looked really similar to.........Capitalism!!! I totally agree Americans should have never started buying Junk from over seas. America used to be the pride of the Automotive world, now Detroit is........Bankrupt!! and now even American cars and trucks are filled with parts made in Asia. I am as Canadian and my brother works for a company that makes high end metal doors and he got phoned by a American company that wanted to buy doors not assembled so they could assemble them in America and put a stamp on it saying Made in USA!! too funny......but also kind of sad
Nathan Fraser Yes it is and the real sad part is we have door plants here in the USA that make doors. A side point, even stuff made in Canada is considered Made in North America.. cheers...
You ought to see the cars they manufacture and sell there.
Roy Cagle NO THANKS ! ! ! I've seen enough of their crap...their tractors and equipment, don't need to see their cars, thats probably why other nations are so anxious to sell their cars there and why the demand for US and Japanese cars is so great...
Wilbur Finnigan No, all our manufacturing base is tooled and operational its just sitting idle. If the USA embargoes China THEY would be screwed, not us.
junk...good for 120 days...
poor quality......