We are damn lucky there isn't a reputation system associated with pawns, because our only option being the nuclear option can emotionally suck for some of us.
Funnily enough, I ran into an old crazy guy in game who seemed to suggest that the talos giant is made by the brine to put the dragon in its place should it get too uppity.
@@Sly_can_of_cheese Wait fr? That's amazing 😂 I started telling people in the Dragon's Dogma discord that I'm gonna bring back the Salvation cult but instead of serving Grigori we Praise the Brine 😂🤣
I almost summoned a pawn with glowing eyes as i thought it looked cool. Disaster avoided. Edit: For comments implying you can't tell within the rift, you absolutely can. When you talk to a pawn it's eyes will be their created colour, however if you stand near them and orient the camera to their face, it's possible to see if their eyes are glowing. I've seen quite a few infected in the smaller rifts with limited selection. This is dependent on how far along their infection has progressed.
Yesterday my main pawn came back from adventures with other players, and said "There is a rumor that a strange plague raises among the pawns and turn them into madness", then the other pawn said "that can't be true, if that's true, we are in great danger". Such comments between the pawns (even mentioning of the plague) are epic 🤩
This is confirmed to not brick your save, if you rest or pass time for a week, essential NPC's and side quest NPC's will respawn in the towns so this isn't a permanent death with exception to a few NPC's that aren't THAT important overall, but in general this does not ruin your playthrough, it just creates a unique situation of being unable to turn in/start the quests until the NPC's respawn.
I'm not sure how to feel about this. Whats the point of a dragons plague nuke if the npcs just respawn anyways? Kind of takes all of the seriousness and gravity out of it. I get not wanting to brick a save, but at the same time, having to deal with serious consequences in-game makes it feel so much more important. Kind of like death/getting cursed in darksouls in a way. Personally, I like the idea I saw other people pitching where instead of just an insta-kill dragon nuke, the pawn turns into a monster and becomes a boss fight. That happening in the middle of the night, in town where npc deaths could happen ,would have been such a better way to introduce dragons plague.
I noticed that Brant doesn't respawn from Dragonsplague after the city recovers. I have no idea how the game is supposed to nudge you along the main story for your first time without his guidance.
FYI just to really clarify. Offline mode wont avoid this, the random pawns can also have it. I got my notification when i hired a pawn that happened to have the plague.
Can confirm. Was in a bad spot when my Mage pawn died and I had a ways to go to finish an important quest. "Luckily" an official CAPCOM Mage pawn happened by, so I hired them only to get the popup of Doom™ Quitting out won't work either. It saves the moment the popup comes up, so you either have to reload from the inn, or just accept it. -_-
Just accept it and throw them off a cliff later, if I recall right the plague makes them stronger for a bit so just use them to get out of a tight spot and yeet them first chance you get.@@Maken-X I was using an infected archer and they seemed to be doing really well, but unfortunately for me they fell off a cyclops into the brine before I could see the later stages of the plague.
I was gonna skip this video to avoid spoilers, but holy hell am I glad I watched it I've heard rumours of a pawn-specific disease, but never thought for a second that it would wipe out an entire town if it got serious
Yeah, ever since I heard about Dragonsplague prior to release, I've been constantly on watch for signs of Dragonsplague. I knew from the start that two of the warning signs were the glowing red eyes and them being more combative/rebellious when you give them orders. The only symptom I wasn't aware of was them holding their head (but I likely would have picked up on that symptom very quickly as well). The instant I find that one of my Pawns has Dragonsplague, they're getting fed to the Brine ASAP. Not sure if making them forfeit cures Support Pawns or only your Main Pawn though.
@gamester512 hey bruh at least you can be guilt free. You tried to rid the disease by sending them to meet Jesus instead of just sending them back to the rift and being like, "well next dudes screwed". 😂
anyone goes all glowy eyed or needs a tylenol they're going right back where they came from and if Lucia starts exhibiting symptoms she is getting yeeted in the river at the speed of light@@gamester512
Because Dragon's Dogma 2 is basically a one save game this is very interesting and also a little anxiety inducing. Thank you for the tips. I'll be sure to pay attention.
I have some really important information about the plague for you guys, as someone who has over 70 hours in game by now and had at last 5 dragon plagued pawns - first of all you either get sick pawns from rift or after a dragon fight, not sure if drake can actually infest your pawn, of all the cases all seems to be from dragon. Another thing is with which im not sure what exacly happened but it looks like the diesese can actually go to random pawns you meet on the road too. Two times my sick pawns actually got cured and for sure they didnt pass the sickness to any other party member and im also 100% sure they were sick - its easy to see after you know the symptoms - they are checking their head for temperature (they have fiver), they spit a lot and a lot of times they dont listen to you at all. Dont throw your pawns off the bridges the moment you think they are sick. They not gonna ruin your game right away, it takes time for the plague to take effect so stop killing poor pawns. Thanks.
@@vynegar_ haha if that was the case it would be pointless to even add the plague, everyone would throw pawns to water right after they are grabbed. No.
So I didn't realize this with dragon's plague. I haven't seen the cutscene yet so I can prevent it now. But I honestly thought dragon's plague just made drakes more likely to attack the town or you in general as the pawn unknowingly communicates information about you, because ever since I saw that pop up I've encountered a lot of dragons and the pawn with dragon's plague even lead me to one in an explicitly strange way, going off the main path and make me climb ledges tight into a drake. So maybe that's also a thing. If so there could be a mild benefit assuming you're capable of fighting and killing a drake and need the resources. I'll still get rid of it though
It was in the first game as a 'possession' condition on your pawns, where Dragons catches them and mind controls them. This time around it also infects them without you knowing. Because when a Drake (it's actually a dragon but whatever) grabs your pawn it's actually doing that same 'mind control' thing so if you let it happen, they are both infected, and become hostile to you. Just don't revive them and let them say down. Also if the drake grabs the player, note how he stares at you for a bit then go "Wait this isn't a pawn!" and annoyingly slams you into the ground.
@dra6o0n I think if you down your pawn fast enough, they don't get infected. I had a pawn get controlled and immediately killed them and revived them. They never got the plague. That or it's % chance thing.
@@dra6o0n The 'posession' mechanic was fine. Just 'down' the affected pawn and revive them. The problem was gone then. This is a stupid idea that can screw a playthrough and make players abandon the game! Hopefully, they will fix this in a patch. I get the idea of a PIA pawn that doesn't follow orders but why also include a nuke that screws a playthorough?!!
All I'm hearing from this video is..."Everytime you go back to town to sleep, throw your pawn off a bridge and desummon all support pawns. Just in case..." lol
@@TheRealChacorta the one that decided to sell wake stones for 0.99 a pop. Oh dragon’s plague nuked a town and bricked your game? For a low price of $0.99 you can now unbrick your game!
@@TheRealChacortathe main idea on this is to make sure we are not using just the same pawns through the entire game, it is meant to encourage us to swap pawns regularly. Say you have 2 friendlisted people who have very high level pawns, fully decked out with your friends already in NG+. You could in theory keep them through the entire game and never look back. Dragonsplague says "no, you need to swap pawns regularly, the system is meant for you to employ dozens of different pawns from dozens of different players".
@@themuffinprincesa21 It doesn’t, and i’ve clocked like 80 hours. The mechanic was so tedious that it ended up being patched to make the plague more visible
its a tweak (worse imo but only bc of what it can do) of the first game, the drakes in the first game could grab your pawns and control them until you knock sense into them. they could also roar and insta kill all pawns but that was never a problem bc you could tap to rez super fast and easy.
same my pawns would mention the disease but i thought they were just saying this stuff for flavor/immersion. im so glad my curiosity got the best of me and i looked it up
Im pretty sure one of my pawns has it, but i never got the "tutorial" notification. He grabs his head frequently and also shows a "I am gonna cut your throat" gesture. I really wanna rest and check if he really is sick 😂 but im scared to fck up the whole Batthal capital
If you have it this is what an eternal wakestone is for. Despite the name it is a consumable item, but it's an item meant to be used to revive a bunch of people, just know that you only get one per playthrough from the sphinx. That being said, as others have pointed out resting a week all essential NPCs will come back regardless, so maybe this is a way to boost performance in cities?
Thank you so much for this video guys it really helped are they realize my pawn had red eyes till I was changing her equipment and I noticed they were glowing and then she kept saying that she needed rest and then I looked it up and your guys's video came up I was very grateful cuz I went and dropped her no water immediately and then she came back and apologized for all the misbehavior so I'm very grateful for your help thank you
If you happen to miss it in the future it doesn’t break your save, npcs respawn after like 3-7 days in game. Source:me I’ve gotten it twice, second time intentionally to mass revive for achievement
Just set them out into the main town to gain 90 FPS until the NPCs revive in a few days. Sounds like a win. You get a sassy pawn with glowing eyes AND double your FPS in towns.
Theres even president for this from dark arisen I know that Damien was a arisen not a pawn but he became corrupted by the dragon and became a monster 🤷
I would like this to happen, I actually prefer this to the current way the game handles it. Kind of the pawn treating you like a false Arisen, eventually becoming hostile. It could be quite personal, having your favourite pawn attack you. A boss battle of sorts. Also wish there was a way to let the creator of the pawn know that this pawn has dragon's plague. Preventing/vaccinating a plague often needs to start with "patient zero", meaning the first victim of the illness. The devs could potentially do this by adding a warning/limitation to the pawn creation, reading something like: "This pawn is affected by dragon's plague. This can have lethal effects. Are you sure you want to make this pawn?" Or making it impossible to share the pawn until it has been cured of the plague.
Honestly I thought it was just a misdirection. That there would be something else that turn your pawns against you, and they talking about a plague was just foreshadowing that. It seems like a really interesting mechanic. But yeah, the pawn turning evil could be done better. Maybe sometime after all the symptoms manifest, the pawn starts attacking and killing npc's or even attacking you, so you have to kill them. That would make it cooler and would fit better as a dragon's dogma mechanic.
Yeah when I 1st heard the pawns talking about it I just assumed they were talking about dragon possession like in the 1st game Also while it's a sstrange way to do that, I would prefer if it was implied that when you slept, the pawn was just killing NPCs randomly and there were rumors of murder Something like that wouldve made more sense imo
I honestly would've preferred it if the plagued pawn just resorted to killing you instead of the npcs in town. It could be an interesting fight especially since they're basically capable of anything the Arisen is capable of. Or if the targets have to be npcs, you should at least be allowed to defend them against your pawn.
@@notrelatedtobacon1282 that whole rumer of murder idea sounds like it could be really cool. your other pawns could mention noticing one of your pawns going off whilst your sleeping or even the innkeeper. Maby notice blood on them or their weapon. Npc chatting about notice a strange figure which they'll than mention a detail your pawn has etc.
@@Willow4526you got my idea exactly, use the ingame chatter that is meant to provide insight and passively raise the question.... Wait...that sounds alot like a certain pawn ik Ultimately it think that if you let it go far enough then the pawn just straight up attacks you with moldly amped stats to make a it more interesting mechanic
Agreed. A mini-boss battle with your own pawns looks like a cool thing to have in the game. Especially if you don't expect it. Definitely better than a cutscene, and it feels more personal too. Doesn't affect the savegame either, that's good as well.
I got the dragonsplague today! I wasted 8 wakestones! But I’m gonna say this, THE DRAGONSPLAGUE IS NOT PERMANENT AND YOU DONT NEED THE ETERNAL WAKESTONE, All I did was sleep twice in the plagued area and everyone was brought back life. DRAGONSPLAGUE NOT PERMANENT.
The only real issue I have with this is that the main solution to fixing this problem is to kill and resummon your pawn. Like wtf...there should be a better solution to this.
There could have been a quest, or a rare material that only certain bosses drop which cures them. I dunno. Seems half baked. Edit: even a quest to cleanse them would have been cooler. Say you had to escort the pawn to sacrificial altars where by driving a knife through their heart, you cleanse the curse.
@@phant0mdummyYea anything immersive would have been nice. Instead the solution is so "gamey". "Use purely non-immersive gameplay mechanics that should realistically be discouraged, to cure it" just feels...bad...
@@Sanquinity Not to mention, how does it even fix anything? Freshly summoned pawns can have it too, so how is sending them back to the Rift even do anything?
@@pivotomegaThe fact that most of the stuff I'm currently doing in the game has nothing to do with the story and yet I'm still having fun proves this wrong. For me at least, perhaps it's different for other people
@@pivotomega How is it a remake without the original cast and towns? How is it a remake without the Ranger, Assassin or Mystic Knight vocations? And then you mentioned the DLC! Yeah, you’re a casual and a negative Nancy. You should catch Dragons plague and give it to your entire family.
Damn. Randomly poped up in my feed, I had the tutorial about dragonblighr earlier today but didn't know how to notice it. After watching the vid I checked upon my pawns and noticed red blinking eyes on one of them. Great video, thank you
I just got the notification the other night. Thankfully I’ve only slept at an inn once (at the beginning of the game when you’re basically forced to), and just mostly camp. Immediately de summoned and gently pushed my main pawn off a cliff
Thank you for this information. I do agree that dragons plague does seem to be much more overturned fhan it should, as it's results xan be catastrophic if a player does not know. (And many players are new). I also believe that it should be recognizable in the rift, especiallly the glowing red eyes, and fhat the pawns should be more vocal about it. Including the other pawns asking the pawn if they're okay. The day before tranformation especially, the pawn should be especially vocal and even verbally hostile towads the arisen, indicating something is desperately wrong with the pawn. I realize this makes things more avoidable, but that's the goal. I also feel that the plague shouldn't just be a "Wham! Everyone around you is just dead", but moreso a shadow drake attack that you now have to battle. It also shouldn't be only in rhe city, but also campsite in case a player want to trigger without it being in the city. And there should be a way to treat this, other than..... Loved and cared about pawn being forced to drown, fall from a fatal height or getting killed in battle. There really should be a way to treat this.
I agree, It would have been so much better if this were a hidden surprise boss fight! I do disagree about it not being in town though. Having serious consequences in-game is something they were shooting for as a design decision when they made it possible for monsters to charge into town and attack npcs, and I agree with their vision as it makes the world feel more immersive and your ability to "save lives" much more important and impactful. Trying to be the hero by drawing and holding this hypothetical boss's attention while the npcs try to get away just sounds incredibly climactic and fun.
@Viktoria_Thaelin I've only seen one pawn so far with it. And it was actually kind of spooky. Just a lone pawn walking down a rainy mountain trail I encountered and was going to hire, when I noticed the eyes. I noped on out of there as fast as I could
“loved and cared pawn” they’re not only video game npcs, they’re soulless husks in the lore of the world anyway. the treatment is the brine. sorry you don’t like it, but there it is 🤷♂️
Holy Crap, I think I just released a pawn with glowing red eyes. Thought to myself how cool the design was, but didn't think more about it. Now I have to check the rest of my party. I'm fairly at the beginning of the game, I can't risk to wipe out Vernworth. Damn that's a crazy mechanic.
Friend gave me like 30 bucks to confirm it so i might aswell share it with everyone.You can only buy 5 extra wakestones. Every dlc is single purchase, you cannot buy more. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or misinformed.
Ya it's all the stuff thats sold in the deluxe version for those who didn't buy deluxe can buy the items seperately. They just have additional wake stones and RC.
You find them in the overworld and in towns with a quest reward that shows every wakestone near you or in a town. It's pretty useful, but idk if the wakestone shards are limited. If it is, the MTX is actually BS considering that they probably had that in mind.
@@CarlosRivera-cg4cs I didn't. Friend wanted to know. I only used 15 and kept the rest. Far as I know I got some free dlc and 15 dollars in exchange XD
When I got received the Dragonsplague message for the first time I knew the pawn I just hired was infected so I dismissed them quickly. Now I watch out for the three signs pulsing red eyes, complaining about giving them commands and grab their forehead. Soon you see any of them dismiss them OR if it's your own pawn throw them in the water or down something. I suggest not having Pawns that has their entire face covered up so you can keep a eye on their eyes. Myself I created a .BAT file that copy's the entire save folder to my Download folder. That way I can very easy make a copy of it at any time I so wish too.
This kinda adds another layer to the game once you are aware of how it works. Got me checking my pawns eyes on a regular basis and listening to the things they say. Got me wondering if all these drakes are transformed pawns.
they are! The Arisen, the pawns, we're all destined to become dragons. In the case of dragons plague, it's implied to be temporary possession. But it can become a full transformation for either. The Pawn becomes a drake, lesser dragon, but the Arisen was effected by Grigori himself. So what does that make you? Why does the cycle constantly repeat? The Arisen slays the dragon, the Arisen becomes the dragon. A cycle of endless renewal
I wish there was a better way to deal with it than death or refund. Kind of like in Rising of the Shield Hero when Raftalia gets cursed by the zombie dragon so she needed a lot of treatments of holy water from the currupt church. Sounds like a much kinder (albeit annoying) and more story driven way of dealing with it.
yeah but that wouldn't really make sense... pawns are immortal beings and cannot die why would you waste medicine on something that cannot die instead of just "killing" it and resummoning it for free for no cost.
@@arcanumelite4853 "killing" them despite them being immortal really shouldn't than remove the plague, as death doesn't normally cause permanent change to them. That implies it's not exactly them that's coming back or that the rift cures them somehow which it clearly can't.
@@obwolf You shouldnt worry as much as if this does happen you can either use a wakestone or instead opt to just wait a week or two for the city to repopulate and quest npcs and vendors to respawn
@@spac3dout320 Quest giving npc’s don’t respawn and I want to make sure I keep them all alive. Effectively cleaning up the aftermath of the dragons plague is such a hassle that I’ve stopped playing for the moment because it was feeling more like a chore than a game meant to enjoy.
(6:04) Just imagine. Looking at a Pawn and just thinking "oh cool, glowing eyes. maybe they're more powerful now" and then they started getting sassy. And then you think, "Maybe they need a nap?" go to a place to rest and BAM...
Funny enough, I learned about this mechanic by recruiting a Pawn from the Rift. After traveling with them for some time, they were telling stories about Masters they served a while back and mentioned about a horrible sickness that erodes the loyalty of a Pawn towards the Arisen. Had a raised eyebrow moment, then my main Pawn said that it would be best to watch out for them… Guess you don’t have to fight a Drake to know, Pawns are swapping information when they come in n out of worlds - they’re like a network lol
One of my pawns were being randomly sassy with me so i naturally threw him off cliffs and and just abused him. I eventually threw him to the brine and its good to know now that i just actually saved my game Edit: (swear guys I'm not abusive, he was genuinely tweaking)
I mean sometimes they do give sassy answers or reactions without it, i hired one of the official Pawns in the beginning, a thief named Cap and he was always complainign about being tired to do shit like walking and stuff, but also did enjoy fighting however and was always joyful about it, but also disappointed when they were over xD So it's not always necessarily the plague, since as far as i know Pawns also can kind of "acquire" other personalities from NPCs and maybe one of your pawns actually "changed" like that or something idk xD
I understand the idea of Dragonsplague. It is meant to avoid you hiring say two high level friendlist pawns and stick with them for the entire playthrough. It is meant to force you to regularly swap pawns. I just wish the signs were a bit clearer and the timeline somewhat more predictable, so we could safely say "swap pawns every X number of days and you should be good". As of now, I'm still paranoid and terrified. If any pawn dares to talk back to me, he's get yeeted from a cliff, I don't give a damn and I'm not taking any chances.
I would think it’s the opposite. This mechanic forces u to only play with ur friends pawns, as u know they don’t have it and ur friends would tell u if their pawn caught it. If you play with a bunch of randoms, that seems to be riskier.
I did see a reddit post from someone who had this happen, and also said that most of the NPCs in Bakbattahl were alive again after about a week, including shopkeepers. They said that there were still people in the morgue, but no named NPCs. However, in the same thread, it was also said that named NPCs can still end up in the morgue, and death/resurrection can still break quest givers. So... hopefully we'll get some more research and confirmation over time.
Even when the Dragons Dogma logo comes up on screen the eyes of the dragon pops up first then the logo. So I think Capcom may have more in store for us with this.
Interesting. I had a pawn once telling me about "something" that pawns can take with them through the rift. It was described as kind of an illness. I suppose that is what the pawn was talking about. I thought first a kind of pokerus thing, but this is way cooler- just also way more dangerous
Red eyes really arent an issue. If a pawn stops obeying my "come here command" i yeet them. Thats it, has happend 3 times now. Also when you pick them up they get reaaaal sassy with you.
Now I'm kinda worried cause I chose the sassiest pawn I could and gave her bright red eyes. Sure they don't glow but I'll bet she gets summoned less for it
Yeah sorry. If a pawn has red eyes, I am very cautious about hiring them. I still with those because I stare them down for awhile before deciding and I just watch them harder than my other pawns.
So I guess what the pawns say wasn't just talk and shouldn't be ignored. 'Tis said there is an illness pawns can contract beyond the rift that inflicts unspeakable harm on thoes around them.
I feel like this could be better if they implemented it in late game or ng+ or second play through after getting enough gold and experience and resources to make it easier to get wake stones but having the possibility to happen early game it might cause people to completely give up on the game because they have to micro manage it or because they don’t have enough resources at the time. Imagine you just bought the game and progress enough early game and you decide to switch a pawn out and all of a sudden melve is completely wiped out and you have no idea how to fix it lol then you look it up online and it turns out you have to look for this very specific hidden creature or try to reload your save which might not even fix the issue because if your auto save and your rest save are after the town is wiped out then you have no choice but to try to get enough wake stones or find the sphinx. It wouldn’t be a issue if the quest npcs didn’t break but I’ve read that the event can break quest npcs after you revive them so it’s literally just another way to pretty much brick your save and I’m pretty sure no one wants that, I feel like after a while it’ll get annoying quick.
Ya feels like this should have been a boss fight rather than a bio terrorism lol. Like if you fail then everyone in town dies, the pawn should turn into a dragon/drake and you have to fight it and if its your main pawn you get an emotional cutscene of you ending your own pawn and you have to make a new one ( if the devs want to be really evil they lose all their skills etc but they level up faster or something)
@vindurza no..... it's like what 3 stones? Still ain't saving your game Edit its 5 stone you can buy in the store ya it wasn't put there for that lol nice try. I get mtx bad but you are hurting your cause by shooting out bad faith arguments
@@vindurza truly? i thought same level pawn cost 0 RC? also for main pawn you can just drown them and resummon back. Support pawns just go offline mode and pick your cherry
@@vindurza 5 Wakestones that you can only purchase once. Good luck reviving a town with a population of over 40 NPCs with that, buddy. There's an item in the game that can revive an entire town. Infinitely more useful than the MTX shop's 5 Wakestones. You'd know if you played the game.
This would definitely be better imo. Maybe make it curable/preventable at the early stage/pre symptomatic. You just hired a support pawn with it, so you dispose of them and buy a potion for like 10k for your main pawn to cure it/vaccinate them for x days. You could risk not curing them, but by the time they start showing signs, it’s too late.
So barely noticeable tells aside, this mechanic sounds very cool. It is an incentive to check up on your pawns, treat them like you would your favourite NPC, and as a leader making a tough call, take them out for the sake of the many. Gameplay wise it helps with experiencing new compositions as your best wizard has to be thrown into the brine. Will agree though, they need better tells for when the pawn has it. Maybe a dark aura effect surrounding them, and their skin becomes scaley like a dragon.
Thanks for making this video! I hope tons of people see it and spread it so they can stop panicking about it. Theres been so much misinformation going around, this video will be a good resource to send people so they stop freaking out and saying its unavoidable.
@@CarlosRivera-cg4cs It happened to me in the elf village. Merchant NPCs are replaced, important/quest ones need to be revived in a graveyard. I was going to do the elf archer mission and he died. I resurrected him in the cemetery, but the mission doesn't continue... he would need to guide me to start target shooting and he doesn't guide me, he stays in place.
I knew about the glowing eyes and grabbing the head portion of it, but never knew about the back talk, and thought it was to a specific attitude you can give pawns; I heard one of my hired pawns back talk me during one of the last fights in my second playthrough and didn't think to much about it as I was essentially spamming commands constantly, i.e. Help, Go, etc. I beat the game then before resting, thankfully without getting an entire capital wiped lol.
Bad mechanic, honestly, it shouldn't just insta kill everyone. Not only is it boring, but it's ridiculous. I love the concept of a pawn losing control, but insta death is lame, like what, you just slept through a genocide?
Definitely feels like it should be a boss that spawns or even your pawn that you need to fight & kill or something, so you have more agency over the situation. Like they start running around town fighting & killing NPCs & you can give chase to defeat them, with guards rushing in being a buffer for the other npcs, with it being on you to be strong enough to save your pawn/friend from themselves. Also my pawn already has purple eyes, its going to be hard telling 😅.
There either needs to be a better way of dealing with it like slaying the dragon that gave it to the pawn or it just shouldn't be in the game. It feels really punishing for no reason.
it would be far more interesting, if it turned the town into a dungeon, and you had to kill the pawn as it turns into a drake, to turn it back to normal.
Ahhhhh. I checked after this video and my pawn had the eyes lmao. Was very lucky i was next to the ocean. He got yeated so quick. Ty so much. I know who gave him it. Was that damn sassy sorceror Ethan!
In my opinion a shit mechanic. So if I'm not perceptive with my pawns I get punished by getting an entire town/city killed and I also get no reward for being perceptive... okay... come on capcom you guys could have totally made a cool mechanic here but instead we get this simple yet annoying mechanic by having to constantly check our pans and kill them if they get it. :v
I just learned that if you wait after a town gets wiped they all just come back to life so...yeah... Idk at least we get funny clips of players being paranoid and throwing pawns in the water for the slightest sussy lines
You can manipulate the saves on PS5 by turning off the auto cloud and then manually uploading it… it has saved me a few times it’s annoying to do it every few hours but so worth it
I hired a pawn for 10k RC to help me. It was dragon plauged 😢. Had to throw then off the cliff once their eyes started glowing... just got the eternal wakestone tho for the future
@multiact8800 never hiring pawns unless free. I went to level 30 without paying for them. I also grinded the liches at night, which give around 200 rc per kill
So my pawns contracted DIV and I had to sacrifice all to the brine, but I noticed that the pawn in question had abnormally high stats for it's vocation and level, so maybe stick with the pawns that have average stats. The pawn in this case was a level 52 mage with something like 800 magic defense and 750 magic.
You used my clip!!!!!! REEEEEE Thanks for clarifying a lot more about how to spot the eyes. My OBS settings need tweaked and I didn't think to talk to the pawns to see if the eye glow was present.
If you order them to wait you can talk to them using that dialogue. Normally they might not allow you to talk to them if they are constantly on the move.
The concept of it is interesting if instead of random slaughter the infected pawns turn on you and backstab you during a big combat. My pawn can possibly get bodied by a 4 foot drop, how do they somehow slaughter an entire city full of guards? This mechanic needs to be disabled asap considering the forced 1 save slot. This feels like it was made to break saves and make you start over to pad game time, but it will just make people quit.
You can beat the game with literally every NPC in the game dead from what I know, then just slide into NG+. Everything fixed. You can also kill the Sphinx after doing her riddles and get the Eternal Wakestone that will revive an entire city. I do agree there should be more preventative measures, but it doesn't brick your save. The game is all about the consequences of your actions... Well... There you go. A good idea is turn off the cloud save sync, then every day upload data to have a save to go back to.
@@SpacePirateLord Im sorry that I dont subscribe to the same kind of torture porn you do, but killing off a whole village and not having a way to stop it or go back is actually insane, why am I punished for missing the smallest of things, why does the game save as it happens, this is not fun at all, I dont wanna have to go speed run to get an item to revive someone, it should never happen, the 1 save only needs to go
@Zakharon From what I read online the people slowly return to life after a week as well. Seems the Seneschal doesn't allow the Arisen's path to stay messed up forever. So there's another option.
Not sure why they'd put a game ending mechanic in-game with at launch no way to restart a new play through.TYTY i gotta keep watch the tips are really awesome .
it really is a "are you actually paying attention to the game?" type of mechanic, the game does warn you even before you ever enconter the plague. i just feel like killing everyone is a bit much, maybe if it was capped at 10 npcs it would be better
Nahh, it should wipe out the whole map from all npc's for 1 week or 2 and no option to camp or sleep . If you reach the resurrection date, you're good. If not, you'll die and need a new save. "Masochistic mode activated" :P
BRUTAL LOL just got the pop literally an hour ago... XD didn't see this one coming at all, good thing the vid popped on my feed (maybe the dragon gods are somewhat benevolent) now I've got to learn how to back-up save files I guess... until then, will have to be very careful... also, game says it's contagious... wonder if you can have more than one w/ the disease @ the same time, since game says the only way to get rid of your own is to pass to another pawn (not sure how that would work tho, since folks picking up you pawn is based on luck more than anything lol)
This happened to me when I was level 40 with the same level 30 pawns I’d hired hours ago It’s a crappy half baked mechanic that should have received more development or just been cut.
TL:DR - Murderhobo pawns are dumb, turn them into a dragon instead I think like you suggested would've been awesome - as those who've played the first game know the origins of the dragon, it'd be interesting to have dragonsplague tied to the creation of drakes where when a pawn is cursed with it, they transform into a drake themselves. Then in turn, by slaying the pawn-drake (within the city or town you resided in so it can potentially lead to casualties) there could be a punishment system (like if its your main you cant use them for 24 irl hrs as they recover from the plague or if its a borrowed pawn, your world loses access to the rift/pawns for 24 irl hrs so you cant borrow any new pawns, minus the one you slayed) (edit) A system like this would make dragonsplague as a whole more immersive and interactive while also developing more on the lore. This also would provide players the option to farm dragon related content/conquer the plague for a price rather than always being forced to sacrifice their pawns to the brine...
Okay... can we just talk for a second about how much of a ballsy move this mechanic is on the part of the Dragon's Dogma team? As someone who frequently plays D&D and other TTRPGs and has interacted with a lot of different players during that time, you realize that you really have to know the people at your table and what you can and can't get away with. Whether that be as the GM or as the player. There are certain plot hooks or role play decisions that really only work if you have the right people to play off. You really have to trust the people in your game for certain things to work and be appreciated. Using that concept of "trust" in a ttrpg as a parallel, if DD2 were a D&D campaign (which it essentially is), I would NOT trust 90% of the people I've ever played with to roll with a mechanic like Dragonplague and actually appreciate it for what it is. It has the potential to be a really cool emergent gameplay element, but you really, REALLY need to have someone who is in that headspace to enjoy it. So, yeah. While I'm not wild about some of the game's launch issues, I'm still loving this game so much. Most devs would not put THAT much trust in their players.
Except it’s half baked and needs much more development for it to be worth keeping in the game. All it does is kill every npc in the settlement and the game world doesn’t react to it in any other capacity. It’s cool to hear about in a video but when it destroys your first play through midway through it’s not nearly as exciting.
unforntunately for me, I picked up a pawn after starting a couple of quests that required that I traveled from major city to major city a couple of times around so I did a lot of oxcarting and that progressed the days really quickly so I didn't have a lot of time to just hang out with them and see symptoms. In hindsight, I did check their eyes just in case but I didn't know if they were just normal red pupils or glowy bad red pupils, then a couple of oxcarts and a inn rest later, it was gg for my city. Also I'd like to mention with time, the city's denizens will slowly revive, usually week+ stuff, but in my experience, it seems like quest npcs either have a low priority or take a reaaaaaally long time to come back.
Yeah its not as serious as these youtubers make it, doing it all for the views only. If you turn in a quest in said city that triggers a cut scene, all NPCs come back right away. Except those side quest npcs, they take longer. For me, i let the capital get nuked just to see the cut scene, and then i had to turn in a quest for Wilhelmina. I revived her and turned it in, after the cut scene the majority of NPCs were back alive. Only ones i was missing were Brant and the old dude in archives
If your whole village is dead just take a seat somewhere and spam that Nodding off button 3 times is 1 Day, and in 4-5 Days all the ppl in the village just respawn, and also my beautiful ppl mops and bosses spawn again after 7 Days of resting, mean actually you can insta farm All Mini-boses by resting for 7 Days or Napping on a seat 24 times = 7 Days, you don’t have to stand up and take a seat again, just spam the nap button right after he wakes up from the Nap
OMG WHY IS THIS A THING?!?! Seriously, what were the devs thinking??? This is not a fun mechanic, or even a fair one. I already had to deal with Gregor the NPC dying from something. Now I have to worry about everyone in town? That just seems ludicrous! If you hadn't have told us, a lot of us would have had our games ruined and would need to start over. Only it would probably just happen again. You have armed us with knowledge and for that we are grateful!
I had a pawn that I adventured with for a couple of hours that showed no symptoms. No glowy eyes, no head clutching, no backtalk, nothing and then bam, Vernworth wiped out. I had just enough wakestones to rez quest vital NPCS but this mechanic is still really atrociously implemented. You technically can't softlock your game since there's an infinite wakestone to be had but come on. Who wants to spend all that time working around this mechanic and then spending even more time recovering from it if the pawn shows no symptoms or you need to go hunt for wakestones to rez vital NPCS?
There's not an infinite wakestone to be had, agreed, it's a shitty mechanic, half-baked and half-thought out, I love the game but this mechanic needs to be either hotfixed out or just fixed.
@@ryumanjisen3494 nah fuck that, don’t defend shitty game design, I’d be completely fine with this if it was done in a better way. The current “oh no your pawn is sick, suddenly they killed the entire town” is not a good story and it’s not good game design, especially since the only way to fix it is to use a one time use item, that can only be obtained once, and it’s breaking quest givers at the same time, couple this with the fact that you can only have one save slot, it’s just awfully implemented. At no point does it warn you that one day when going to bed your pawn is going to kill the entire town.
@@Killerjerick Suddenly? The game gives you enough days to notice the change in your pawn behaviour, not to mention the red eyes and the headaches. You only have, you know, to pay attention. You just failed, take the L and wait for a week, the important NPC's will be resurrected after thst time.
@@ryumanjisen3494The problem is it bugs your quest givers, I know that there are signs but a better way to handle this would be your pawn simply going off the rails while exploring and attacking everyone and everything, upon which you can put them down. This is not to mention bugs like the Magistrate quest bug that forces random npcs to attack you. Things like this should not exist when the devs ask for AAA payment for their game, did QA not happen?
Sounds like a half-baked feature if a cure is dying and the culmination is a short cutscene, disaster strikes and arisen sleeps while the pawn goes on a happy murder spree? Doesn't make sense that they took away player agency on this.. 😢
The key here people are missing is that it doesnt matter how long they have it and who they spread it to, as long as one does not sleep at an inn, one will be fine. Realistically, sleeping at an inn does nothing profound enough to even have to do it. It's expensive and you cannot get cooking buffs. Camp sites are littered everywhere and mostly close to inns anyway. I'll still keep an eye out and eradicate the disease when needed. 👌
@@snazzydrew no no, you miss understand. I'm not saying once you've noticed the signs in a pawn there nothing you can do. I'm saying even once you learn what the signs are, there's no guarantee you'll ever spot the signs before they progress to completion & if you do happen to miss them, let's say you disable the settings for voice lines, pawn wears a helmet or just that unlucky, the plague will trigger & all you can do or anyone say is "better luck next time", which means you have no/next to no agency, if there was an active mechanic you could interact with after the plague triggers to help prevent deaths, than you'd have agency.
My pawn was showing all of the these signs luckily I saw this video before resting at another inn lmao, I didn't notice the flashing red eyes because I made my pawn's eyes red like a vampire the main thing I noticed was it telling me not to command it in battle
I give it two weeks trolls find a way to infect basically every pawn in the game. Guess we should all only use the Capcom pawns. Yay poorly explained, near hidden, game mechanics working as intended 😒
Kinda bugs me that they implemeted Dragonsplague like this. I mean, after 40-50 hours, the last thing you want is a game-breaking "intended" mecanic that ruins your playthrough, and oh, good luck on restarting the game :D
I'll be honest. the studio needs to do one of two things with this. Either remove Dragon Plague as a whole. It's not fun, it's not obvious, and it's just pure anxiety and stress. or give us save files so we have a way to go back and prevent it before it fucks over the whole run.
@Antidepressiva1980 this is just a stupid mechanic that adds NOTHING to the game. You dont get anything for preventing it. Its just something annoying. There's no sense of risk or reward to it. There's nothing it provides other than something you need to add as a checklist.
i just wanna share ive had this happen twice in a row today while resting in the inn by Checkpoint Rest Town (the one next to the Oxcart that goes to Battahl). I was so annoyed that it killed everyone in the city but what i just discovered is that when I went to Vermund Funeral (where you revive NPCs) went to look for a body (did not actually choose anyone), and upon going back to Checkpoint Rest Town by oxcart from Vermund, everyone freaking came back to life. I confirmed i was able to do this twice today when dragonsplague happened. So I'm not sure if it only applies to Checkpoint Rest Town
The mechanic would be fun or at least interesting if an infected pawn killed one NPC per day of being infected and you wouldn’t know until your favourite NPC was missing. Killing an entire town randomly (and I do mean randomly because none of my pawns were showing symptoms) just isn’t fun. And the solution being completing a not fun quest either is just a massive middle finger and a lack of respect of the players time. I was in the middle of a quest and now I have to work my way through another just to fix this, ugh
My running theory was that the worse dragonsplague gets in a pawn, the closer they are to "awakening" into an independent person, as happens to Selene and your main pawn in the previous game. Apparently not.
@@SwordsmanMihawk326you can make a new game in dragons dogma 1 and you could also activate hard mode to start a new game without losing your progress. You are wrong, Stop being a dick 🙂
@@SwordsmanMihawk326 yeah in dd1 you couldn't accidentally destroy the capital city and ruin your chances at making it to the next new game plus loop. And to be honest the game doesn't loop very well since there's no way to increase the difficulty to match your strength earned in the first run.
If you let this happen then you really are oblivious. And here I thought I was kinda stupid for not realizing I had to do something specific during the fight with the Red Dragon. There is multiple ways to deal with the Dragon's Plague before it really becomes a problem. Pawns eyes will start to glow red and they will start ignoring commands such as follow and like they mention themselves they will start to behave iratical and you will hear that in their voice lines. I actually haven't let any Pawns go beyond this state, It is as simple as picking them up and throwing them. After which they will say 'Are you dissapointed in me, Master?' You are good after that.
love the game.., most immersive quests since Skyrim (unless you let Pwans guide / spoil them..), fresh combat (manual targeting) and epic landscapes to explore, love it! GOTY already!
My pawn told me she acts on her own accord when commanding her earlier today. I turned around and threw her off a cliff. Crisis averted.
suddenly all arisens are just parents.
me: now I know I didn't just hear some backtalk, uh uh, baby. get in this brine.
I like how this is the solution. 😂 Pawn acts unruly? Okay. Yeets them off a cliff into deadly brine.
Mishima Parenting Style, Form 1: Cliff Drop
We are damn lucky there isn't a reputation system associated with pawns, because our only option being the nuclear option can emotionally suck for some of us.
@@samujaakkola4531 A Dragon's Dogma classic.
The Brine demands blood. We must feed our corrupted pawns to the Brine. Praise the Brine.
The brine yerns for the pawns
@@cjloha91 And thus we must feed the Brine. Rook was the first and shall not be the last.
I have lost a Pawn today, but still… the Brine demands more.
Funnily enough, I ran into an old crazy guy in game who seemed to suggest that the talos giant is made by the brine to put the dragon in its place should it get too uppity.
@@Sly_can_of_cheese Wait fr? That's amazing 😂 I started telling people in the Dragon's Dogma discord that I'm gonna bring back the Salvation cult but instead of serving Grigori we Praise the Brine 😂🤣
I almost summoned a pawn with glowing eyes as i thought it looked cool. Disaster avoided.
Edit: For comments implying you can't tell within the rift, you absolutely can. When you talk to a pawn it's eyes will be their created colour, however if you stand near them and orient the camera to their face, it's possible to see if their eyes are glowing. I've seen quite a few infected in the smaller rifts with limited selection. This is dependent on how far along their infection has progressed.
Wait so you can see the signs in the rift when choosing them?
@@dra6o0n yea, just talk to them to zoom in
Oh so that's why that pawn had those glowing red eyes.
It’s like an std on their face
Omg, I was going to do the same. 😅 It's a good thing I was being very picky with the skills I wanted them to have. 😂
Yesterday my main pawn came back from adventures with other players, and said "There is a rumor that a strange plague raises among the pawns and turn them into madness", then the other pawn said "that can't be true, if that's true, we are in great danger". Such comments between the pawns (even mentioning of the plague) are epic 🤩
This is confirmed to not brick your save, if you rest or pass time for a week, essential NPC's and side quest NPC's will respawn in the towns so this isn't a permanent death with exception to a few NPC's that aren't THAT important overall, but in general this does not ruin your playthrough, it just creates a unique situation of being unable to turn in/start the quests until the NPC's respawn.
Yes, confirmed happened to me too and after an in game week the NPCs came back. Not the end all, be All. Just slay more mobs till the NPCs come back.
That's good to know
I had wondered why they had a mass respawn mechanic like that. I asked 'what do they expect to otherwise brick peoples games?' and now I know.
I'm not sure how to feel about this.
Whats the point of a dragons plague nuke if the npcs just respawn anyways?
Kind of takes all of the seriousness and gravity out of it.
I get not wanting to brick a save, but at the same time, having to deal with serious consequences in-game makes it feel so much more important.
Kind of like death/getting cursed in darksouls in a way.
Personally, I like the idea I saw other people pitching where instead of just an insta-kill dragon nuke, the pawn turns into a monster and becomes a boss fight.
That happening in the middle of the night, in town where npc deaths could happen ,would have been such a better way to introduce dragons plague.
I noticed that Brant doesn't respawn from Dragonsplague after the city recovers. I have no idea how the game is supposed to nudge you along the main story for your first time without his guidance.
FYI just to really clarify. Offline mode wont avoid this, the random pawns can also have it. I got my notification when i hired a pawn that happened to have the plague.
That's why I check each pawn in the rift before i hire them and make sure no glowey red eyes 😂
You can't do that, it only shows up once you're back in your world.@@regulator18E
Can confirm. Was in a bad spot when my Mage pawn died and I had a ways to go to finish an important quest. "Luckily" an official CAPCOM Mage pawn happened by, so I hired them only to get the popup of Doom™
Quitting out won't work either. It saves the moment the popup comes up, so you either have to reload from the inn, or just accept it. -_-
Just accept it and throw them off a cliff later, if I recall right the plague makes them stronger for a bit so just use them to get out of a tight spot and yeet them first chance you get.@@Maken-X
I was using an infected archer and they seemed to be doing really well, but unfortunately for me they fell off a cyclops into the brine before I could see the later stages of the plague.
@@Maken-X brah you just kill the pawn and it gets rid of the disease. If youd read the notification.
I was gonna skip this video to avoid spoilers, but holy hell am I glad I watched it
I've heard rumours of a pawn-specific disease, but never thought for a second that it would wipe out an entire town if it got serious
Yeah, ever since I heard about Dragonsplague prior to release, I've been constantly on watch for signs of Dragonsplague. I knew from the start that two of the warning signs were the glowing red eyes and them being more combative/rebellious when you give them orders. The only symptom I wasn't aware of was them holding their head (but I likely would have picked up on that symptom very quickly as well). The instant I find that one of my Pawns has Dragonsplague, they're getting fed to the Brine ASAP. Not sure if making them forfeit cures Support Pawns or only your Main Pawn though.
@gamester512 hey bruh at least you can be guilt free. You tried to rid the disease by sending them to meet Jesus instead of just sending them back to the rift and being like, "well next dudes screwed". 😂
anyone goes all glowy eyed or needs a tylenol they're going right back where they came from
and if Lucia starts exhibiting symptoms she is getting yeeted in the river at the speed of light@@gamester512
This was their only video I watched about DD2 so far because I needed to know what "disastrous consequences" were.
So glad I watched.
"how disastrous could they be? they're probably overreact- oh"@@snazzydrew
Because Dragon's Dogma 2 is basically a one save game this is very interesting and also a little anxiety inducing. Thank you for the tips. I'll be sure to pay attention.
I have some really important information about the plague for you guys, as someone who has over 70 hours in game by now and had at last 5 dragon plagued pawns - first of all you either get sick pawns from rift or after a dragon fight, not sure if drake can actually infest your pawn, of all the cases all seems to be from dragon. Another thing is with which im not sure what exacly happened but it looks like the diesese can actually go to random pawns you meet on the road too. Two times my sick pawns actually got cured and for sure they didnt pass the sickness to any other party member and im also 100% sure they were sick - its easy to see after you know the symptoms - they are checking their head for temperature (they have fiver), they spit a lot and a lot of times they dont listen to you at all. Dont throw your pawns off the bridges the moment you think they are sick. They not gonna ruin your game right away, it takes time for the plague to take effect so stop killing poor pawns. Thanks.
Drakes have a rare attack where they grab a pawn and dominate them. I've only seen this once, in a video, but I believe that's how they infect them
@@vynegar_ haha if that was the case it would be pointless to even add the plague, everyone would throw pawns to water right after they are grabbed. No.
I think they may contract it when a dragon takes control of them during a fight.
And even if the plague destroys the town you sleep in, just sleep for a couple days and EVERYONE respawns
for me ambriousus died and wont show up in morgue now, anyone know what to do
So I didn't realize this with dragon's plague. I haven't seen the cutscene yet so I can prevent it now. But I honestly thought dragon's plague just made drakes more likely to attack the town or you in general as the pawn unknowingly communicates information about you, because ever since I saw that pop up I've encountered a lot of dragons and the pawn with dragon's plague even lead me to one in an explicitly strange way, going off the main path and make me climb ledges tight into a drake. So maybe that's also a thing. If so there could be a mild benefit assuming you're capable of fighting and killing a drake and need the resources. I'll still get rid of it though
It was in the first game as a 'possession' condition on your pawns, where Dragons catches them and mind controls them.
This time around it also infects them without you knowing. Because when a Drake (it's actually a dragon but whatever) grabs your pawn it's actually doing that same 'mind control' thing so if you let it happen, they are both infected, and become hostile to you. Just don't revive them and let them say down.
Also if the drake grabs the player, note how he stares at you for a bit then go "Wait this isn't a pawn!" and annoyingly slams you into the ground.
@dra6o0n I think if you down your pawn fast enough, they don't get infected. I had a pawn get controlled and immediately killed them and revived them. They never got the plague. That or it's % chance thing.
@@dra6o0n Good observations.
@@dra6o0nDrakes did that in dragons dogma 1 too, and man that slam did a lotof damage
@@dra6o0n
The 'posession' mechanic was fine.
Just 'down' the affected pawn and revive them. The problem was gone then.
This is a stupid idea that can screw a playthrough and make players abandon the game!
Hopefully, they will fix this in a patch.
I get the idea of a PIA pawn that doesn't follow orders but why also include a nuke that screws a playthorough?!!
All I'm hearing from this video is..."Everytime you go back to town to sleep, throw your pawn off a bridge and desummon all support pawns. Just in case..." lol
Yeah what a weird mechanic. Haha
Ya that’s what I’m thinking. Who tf at Capcom signed off on that?
Well they sell wakestone 1 dollar each in the store, they are needed to revive npc... so thats the reason@@TheRealChacorta
@@TheRealChacorta the one that decided to sell wake stones for 0.99 a pop. Oh dragon’s plague nuked a town and bricked your game? For a low price of $0.99 you can now unbrick your game!
@@TheRealChacortathe main idea on this is to make sure we are not using just the same pawns through the entire game, it is meant to encourage us to swap pawns regularly.
Say you have 2 friendlisted people who have very high level pawns, fully decked out with your friends already in NG+. You could in theory keep them through the entire game and never look back.
Dragonsplague says "no, you need to swap pawns regularly, the system is meant for you to employ dozens of different pawns from dozens of different players".
so remember to wear protection when summoning pawns from the rift! XD
At least its not COVlD!
Use protection every time when you come inside the rift!
Many of us have been calling this Dragon Herpes since before release. 🙃
Dragon aids
i want all my 3 pawns to have red glowy eyes, how will this play out
There needs to be a patch that fixes the "ruins your entire game" thing. you should be able to load your last manual save anytime you want.
Apparently if you let an in game week pass the NPC's respawn.
@@wtfserpicotested and no they don’t. The game repopulates towns with new NPCs but the ones who were already there stay dead
come on, that's like saying " I want another roll, this one doesn't count!! " when you rolled a "1" on your D20.
@Gooshieooshie5000 it does respawn essential NPCs for the story but not always ones that have random quests or that you can't even do anything with
@@themuffinprincesa21 It doesn’t, and i’ve clocked like 80 hours. The mechanic was so tedious that it ended up being patched to make the plague more visible
I don’t even want to play anymore now
its a tweak (worse imo but only bc of what it can do) of the first game, the drakes in the first game could grab your pawns and control them until you knock sense into them. they could also roar and insta kill all pawns but that was never a problem bc you could tap to rez super fast and easy.
As much as it annoys me permanent damage unless you sleep and slow res times on Pawns absolutely balances out you needing to lame out a fight to win.
Yeah i knew there was something like this. My pawn kept talking about how pawns can develop terrible diseases and how it can inflict everyone
same my pawns would mention the disease but i thought they were just saying this stuff for flavor/immersion. im so glad my curiosity got the best of me and i looked it up
Well what if they talk about it
@@sgoutaras if they talk about it... its real.
@@aldoardYup, everything the pawns talk about is quest or lore related.
Im pretty sure one of my pawns has it, but i never got the "tutorial" notification. He grabs his head frequently and also shows a "I am gonna cut your throat" gesture. I really wanna rest and check if he really is sick 😂 but im scared to fck up the whole Batthal capital
The river is about to see a lot of pawns taking a dive.
If you have it this is what an eternal wakestone is for. Despite the name it is a consumable item, but it's an item meant to be used to revive a bunch of people, just know that you only get one per playthrough from the sphinx. That being said, as others have pointed out resting a week all essential NPCs will come back regardless, so maybe this is a way to boost performance in cities?
Thank you so much for this video guys it really helped are they realize my pawn had red eyes till I was changing her equipment and I noticed they were glowing and then she kept saying that she needed rest and then I looked it up and your guys's video came up I was very grateful cuz I went and dropped her no water immediately and then she came back and apologized for all the misbehavior so I'm very grateful for your help thank you
If you happen to miss it in the future it doesn’t break your save, npcs respawn after like 3-7 days in game. Source:me I’ve gotten it twice, second time intentionally to mass revive for achievement
If a dragon grabs my pawns I’m chucking them in the river
Same here not even worth the risk. ASAP imma just dismiss the other two. Then throw my main pawn in the river.
Just set them out into the main town to gain 90 FPS until the NPCs revive in a few days. Sounds like a win. You get a sassy pawn with glowing eyes AND double your FPS in towns.
I wish it to be more. Maybe make the pawn transformed into a monster and you have to fight and kill it. Not just a dumb cut scene.
I would be happy with that!
That's what i thought it was before seeing this lol
Theres even president for this from dark arisen
I know that Damien was a arisen not a pawn but he became corrupted by the dragon and became a monster 🤷
I would like this to happen, I actually prefer this to the current way the game handles it. Kind of the pawn treating you like a false Arisen, eventually becoming hostile. It could be quite personal, having your favourite pawn attack you. A boss battle of sorts.
Also wish there was a way to let the creator of the pawn know that this pawn has dragon's plague. Preventing/vaccinating a plague often needs to start with "patient zero", meaning the first victim of the illness. The devs could potentially do this by adding a warning/limitation to the pawn creation, reading something like: "This pawn is affected by dragon's plague. This can have lethal effects. Are you sure you want to make this pawn?" Or making it impossible to share the pawn until it has been cured of the plague.
could even become a drake as they are lesser dragons and with what dragons actually are if you know@@basvanheumen4231
Honestly I thought it was just a misdirection. That there would be something else that turn your pawns against you, and they talking about a plague was just foreshadowing that.
It seems like a really interesting mechanic. But yeah, the pawn turning evil could be done better.
Maybe sometime after all the symptoms manifest, the pawn starts attacking and killing npc's or even attacking you, so you have to kill them. That would make it cooler and would fit better as a dragon's dogma mechanic.
Yeah when I 1st heard the pawns talking about it I just assumed they were talking about dragon possession like in the 1st game
Also while it's a sstrange way to do that, I would prefer if it was implied that when you slept, the pawn was just killing NPCs randomly and there were rumors of murder
Something like that wouldve made more sense imo
I honestly would've preferred it if the plagued pawn just resorted to killing you instead of the npcs in town. It could be an interesting fight especially since they're basically capable of anything the Arisen is capable of. Or if the targets have to be npcs, you should at least be allowed to defend them against your pawn.
@@notrelatedtobacon1282 that whole rumer of murder idea sounds like it could be really cool. your other pawns could mention noticing one of your pawns going off whilst your sleeping or even the innkeeper. Maby notice blood on them or their weapon. Npc chatting about notice a strange figure which they'll than mention a detail your pawn has etc.
@@Willow4526you got my idea exactly, use the ingame chatter that is meant to provide insight and passively raise the question....
Wait...that sounds alot like a certain pawn ik
Ultimately it think that if you let it go far enough then the pawn just straight up attacks you with moldly amped stats to make a it more interesting mechanic
Agreed. A mini-boss battle with your own pawns looks like a cool thing to have in the game. Especially if you don't expect it. Definitely better than a cutscene, and it feels more personal too. Doesn't affect the savegame either, that's good as well.
I got the dragonsplague today! I wasted 8 wakestones! But I’m gonna say this, THE DRAGONSPLAGUE IS NOT PERMANENT AND YOU DONT NEED THE ETERNAL WAKESTONE, All I did was sleep twice in the plagued area and everyone was brought back life. DRAGONSPLAGUE NOT PERMANENT.
I commented about this yesterday, two words: Red Eyes. Check ALL your Pawn's Eyes; if their eyes are Red, Dismiss them ASAP.
The only real issue I have with this is that the main solution to fixing this problem is to kill and resummon your pawn. Like wtf...there should be a better solution to this.
There could have been a quest, or a rare material that only certain bosses drop which cures them.
I dunno. Seems half baked.
Edit: even a quest to cleanse them would have been cooler. Say you had to escort the pawn to sacrificial altars where by driving a knife through their heart, you cleanse the curse.
@@phant0mdummyYea anything immersive would have been nice. Instead the solution is so "gamey". "Use purely non-immersive gameplay mechanics that should realistically be discouraged, to cure it" just feels...bad...
@@Sanquinity Not to mention, how does it even fix anything? Freshly summoned pawns can have it too, so how is sending them back to the Rift even do anything?
@@LecherousLizardProbably just puts it back to the earliest stage
@@gottakilldemall So now you have to kill your main pawn every 3 or so days?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it completely removes the debuff.
Maxed out my thief, working on the sorcerer now. The game is absolutely incredible, having been this invested since Elden Ring.
its a remake of the first one. minus BBL and Everfall.. Literally nothing to do when the story ends.
@pivotomega you can go around and kill shit, you don't always need a reward or new quest
@@pivotomegaThe fact that most of the stuff I'm currently doing in the game has nothing to do with the story and yet I'm still having fun proves this wrong. For me at least, perhaps it's different for other people
@@pivotomega How is it a remake without the original cast and towns? How is it a remake without the Ranger, Assassin or Mystic Knight vocations? And then you mentioned the DLC! Yeah, you’re a casual and a negative Nancy. You should catch Dragons plague and give it to your entire family.
@@brownbeastoftheleaf3215 While i agree with you at first, the end was not needed, dial it down.
Damn. Randomly poped up in my feed, I had the tutorial about dragonblighr earlier today but didn't know how to notice it. After watching the vid I checked upon my pawns and noticed red blinking eyes on one of them. Great video, thank you
I just got the notification the other night. Thankfully I’ve only slept at an inn once (at the beginning of the game when you’re basically forced to), and just mostly camp. Immediately de summoned and gently pushed my main pawn off a cliff
Rule of thumb: don’t rest at inns. Become one with the world. Vagabond is what we must become to wield dragons plague
Thank you for this information. I do agree that dragons plague does seem to be much more overturned fhan it should, as it's results xan be catastrophic if a player does not know. (And many players are new). I also believe that it should be recognizable in the rift, especiallly the glowing red eyes, and fhat the pawns should be more vocal about it. Including the other pawns asking the pawn if they're okay. The day before tranformation especially, the pawn should be especially vocal and even verbally hostile towads the arisen, indicating something is desperately wrong with the pawn. I realize this makes things more avoidable, but that's the goal.
I also feel that the plague shouldn't just be a "Wham! Everyone around you is just dead", but moreso a shadow drake attack that you now have to battle.
It also shouldn't be only in rhe city, but also campsite in case a player want to trigger without it being in the city.
And there should be a way to treat this, other than..... Loved and cared about pawn being forced to drown, fall from a fatal height or getting killed in battle. There really should be a way to treat this.
I agree, It would have been so much better if this were a hidden surprise boss fight!
I do disagree about it not being in town though. Having serious consequences in-game is something they were shooting for as a design decision when they made it possible for monsters to charge into town and attack npcs, and I agree with their vision as it makes the world feel more immersive and your ability to "save lives" much more important and impactful.
Trying to be the hero by drawing and holding this hypothetical boss's attention while the npcs try to get away just sounds incredibly climactic and fun.
Yeah. You’re telling me the arisen just slept through all this while the town just dies? Shoulda been a boss.
unfortunately even with the most advanced plague the eyes don't glow until you leave the rift.
@Viktoria_Thaelin I've only seen one pawn so far with it. And it was actually kind of spooky.
Just a lone pawn walking down a rainy mountain trail I encountered and was going to hire, when I noticed the eyes.
I noped on out of there as fast as I could
“loved and cared pawn” they’re not only video game npcs, they’re soulless husks in the lore of the world anyway. the treatment is the brine. sorry you don’t like it, but there it is 🤷♂️
Holy Crap, I think I just released a pawn with glowing red eyes. Thought to myself how cool the design was, but didn't think more about it. Now I have to check the rest of my party. I'm fairly at the beginning of the game, I can't risk to wipe out Vernworth. Damn that's a crazy mechanic.
Reminds me of a plague bug in WOW where you character could get infected and it would kill all the NPC you came in contact with.
Friend gave me like 30 bucks to confirm it so i might aswell share it with everyone.You can only buy 5 extra wakestones. Every dlc is single purchase, you cannot buy more. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or misinformed.
U wasted 30 bucks on something u could search online? 😂😂
Ya it's all the stuff thats sold in the deluxe version for those who didn't buy deluxe can buy the items seperately. They just have additional wake stones and RC.
You find them in the overworld and in towns with a quest reward that shows every wakestone near you or in a town. It's pretty useful, but idk if the wakestone shards are limited. If it is, the MTX is actually BS considering that they probably had that in mind.
@@CarlosRivera-cg4cs I didn't. Friend wanted to know. I only used 15 and kept the rest. Far as I know I got some free dlc and 15 dollars in exchange XD
I mean the eternal wakestone exists so that can just fix everything so it isn’t a problem
When I got received the Dragonsplague message for the first time I knew the pawn I just hired was infected so I dismissed them quickly.
Now I watch out for the three signs pulsing red eyes, complaining about giving them commands and grab their forehead.
Soon you see any of them dismiss them OR if it's your own pawn throw them in the water or down something.
I suggest not having Pawns that has their entire face covered up so you can keep a eye on their eyes.
Myself I created a .BAT file that copy's the entire save folder to my Download folder. That way I can very easy make a copy of it at any time I so wish too.
This kinda adds another layer to the game once you are aware of how it works. Got me checking my pawns eyes on a regular basis and listening to the things they say. Got me wondering if all these drakes are transformed pawns.
they are! The Arisen, the pawns, we're all destined to become dragons. In the case of dragons plague, it's implied to be temporary possession. But it can become a full transformation for either. The Pawn becomes a drake, lesser dragon, but the Arisen was effected by Grigori himself. So what does that make you? Why does the cycle constantly repeat? The Arisen slays the dragon, the Arisen becomes the dragon. A cycle of endless renewal
So they put Covid in the game?
the pawns need to stay 6 feet from each other
😂😂😂😂
More like bath salts
Yeah, but if Covid was actually deadly
No, Dragon’s Plague actually does something.
Well this is scary. My pawn is been doing this odd conversation with the other ones "have you hear the rumors about pawns behaving weird"
This is the conversation to tell you about that. Nothing to worry about 😅 had this conversation multiple times and nothing happens 😊
This line is so annoying my pawn repeats it nonstop lmao
@@Xheuzwolves hunt in packs
Just re summon all your pawns just to be safe
I wish there was a better way to deal with it than death or refund. Kind of like in Rising of the Shield Hero when Raftalia gets cursed by the zombie dragon so she needed a lot of treatments of holy water from the currupt church. Sounds like a much kinder (albeit annoying) and more story driven way of dealing with it.
yeah but that wouldn't really make sense... pawns are immortal beings and cannot die why would you waste medicine on something that cannot die instead of just "killing" it and resummoning it for free for no cost.
Yeah i was curious what would happen thinking I’d just have to fight my pawn now I’ve just quit the game for the foreseeable future.
@@arcanumelite4853 "killing" them despite them being immortal really shouldn't than remove the plague, as death doesn't normally cause permanent change to them. That implies it's not exactly them that's coming back or that the rift cures them somehow which it clearly can't.
@@obwolf You shouldnt worry as much as if this does happen you can either use a wakestone or instead opt to just wait a week or two for the city to repopulate and quest npcs and vendors to respawn
@@spac3dout320 Quest giving npc’s don’t respawn and I want to make sure I keep them all alive. Effectively cleaning up the aftermath of the dragons plague is such a hassle that I’ve stopped playing for the moment because it was feeling more like a chore than a game meant to enjoy.
(6:04) Just imagine. Looking at a Pawn and just thinking "oh cool, glowing eyes. maybe they're more powerful now" and then they started getting sassy. And then you think, "Maybe they need a nap?" go to a place to rest and BAM...
Funny enough, I learned about this mechanic by recruiting a Pawn from the Rift. After traveling with them for some time, they were telling stories about Masters they served a while back and mentioned about a horrible sickness that erodes the loyalty of a Pawn towards the Arisen. Had a raised eyebrow moment, then my main Pawn said that it would be best to watch out for them… Guess you don’t have to fight a Drake to know, Pawns are swapping information when they come in n out of worlds - they’re like a network lol
One of my pawns were being randomly sassy with me so i naturally threw him off cliffs and and just abused him. I eventually threw him to the brine and its good to know now that i just actually saved my game
Edit: (swear guys I'm not abusive, he was genuinely tweaking)
To save the world ,one must indulge their inner asshole
You are truly insightful Arisen, may thy good deeds spread across the lands.
Damn, one of the few times abuse works!
I mean sometimes they do give sassy answers or reactions without it, i hired one of the official Pawns in the beginning, a thief named Cap and he was always complainign about being tired to do shit like walking and stuff, but also did enjoy fighting however and was always joyful about it, but also disappointed when they were over xD
So it's not always necessarily the plague, since as far as i know Pawns also can kind of "acquire" other personalities from NPCs and maybe one of your pawns actually "changed" like that or something idk xD
*abuses Pawn and drowns them for talking back* Congratulations! You saved an entire city!
I understand the idea of Dragonsplague. It is meant to avoid you hiring say two high level friendlist pawns and stick with them for the entire playthrough. It is meant to force you to regularly swap pawns.
I just wish the signs were a bit clearer and the timeline somewhat more predictable, so we could safely say "swap pawns every X number of days and you should be good".
As of now, I'm still paranoid and terrified. If any pawn dares to talk back to me, he's get yeeted from a cliff, I don't give a damn and I'm not taking any chances.
I just meet them all before I rest
The high resource cost for over leveled pawns and the fact that they dont level with you deters you from doing that. Dragonsplague doesnt
If you are still terified and paranoid it probably means mechanic works successfully
@@STNJ_YT If they are on your friends list there is no cost
I would think it’s the opposite. This mechanic forces u to only play with ur friends pawns, as u know they don’t have it and ur friends would tell u if their pawn caught it. If you play with a bunch of randoms, that seems to be riskier.
I did see a reddit post from someone who had this happen, and also said that most of the NPCs in Bakbattahl were alive again after about a week, including shopkeepers. They said that there were still people in the morgue, but no named NPCs. However, in the same thread, it was also said that named NPCs can still end up in the morgue, and death/resurrection can still break quest givers. So... hopefully we'll get some more research and confirmation over time.
Quest NPCs also dies and end up at the morgue. In my game, Brant, Sven and Waldhar were dead and I had to rez to complete the main quest.
Even when the Dragons Dogma logo comes up on screen the eyes of the dragon pops up first then the logo. So I think Capcom may have more in store for us with this.
Interesting. I had a pawn once telling me about "something" that pawns can take with them through the rift. It was described as kind of an illness. I suppose that is what the pawn was talking about. I thought first a kind of pokerus thing, but this is way cooler- just also way more dangerous
This makes me really paranoid now. Always always always check your pawns before resting at an inn
I recreated Astarion, he has red eyes...There go my chances of folks hiring him.
People only hires female pawns anyway 😂😂
Just change the eyes to a different color. Spent 500 Rift Coins to buy that makeover book and go .
My pawn Megumin also has red eyes😂
Red eyes really arent an issue. If a pawn stops obeying my "come here command" i yeet them. Thats it, has happend 3 times now. Also when you pick them up they get reaaaal sassy with you.
@@TheRico725my elven archer, Sumire ALSO has red eyes lmao😂
Now I'm kinda worried cause I chose the sassiest pawn I could and gave her bright red eyes. Sure they don't glow but I'll bet she gets summoned less for it
Yea I'll admit I've been eye color discriminatory every time I hire a pawn. Anything near red, we dont chance it 😂
You can you change eye colour at the barbarie via the Art of Metamorphosis, which you can buy for 500RC
@@soundfx68 I had just bought it 4 hours before commenting, and made them red instead of green. Now I have buyers remorse
Yeah sorry. If a pawn has red eyes, I am very cautious about hiring them. I still with those because I stare them down for awhile before deciding and I just watch them harder than my other pawns.
She does😂😂😂😂
I think they got the idea from Final Fantasy 14 when Estinien has Nidhogg eyes and transform into Nidhogg by force
So I guess what the pawns say wasn't just talk and shouldn't be ignored.
'Tis said there is an illness pawns can contract beyond the rift that inflicts unspeakable harm on thoes around them.
The things we do for extra fps in town XD
xD
I feel like this could be better if they implemented it in late game or ng+ or second play through after getting enough gold and experience and resources to make it easier to get wake stones but having the possibility to happen early game it might cause people to completely give up on the game because they have to micro manage it or because they don’t have enough resources at the time.
Imagine you just bought the game and progress enough early game and you decide to switch a pawn out and all of a sudden melve is completely wiped out and you have no idea how to fix it lol then you look it up online and it turns out you have to look for this very specific hidden creature or try to reload your save which might not even fix the issue because if your auto save and your rest save are after the town is wiped out then you have no choice but to try to get enough wake stones or find the sphinx.
It wouldn’t be a issue if the quest npcs didn’t break but I’ve read that the event can break quest npcs after you revive them so it’s literally just another way to pretty much brick your save and I’m pretty sure no one wants that, I feel like after a while it’ll get annoying quick.
Ya feels like this should have been a boss fight rather than a bio terrorism lol. Like if you fail then everyone in town dies, the pawn should turn into a dragon/drake and you have to fight it and if its your main pawn you get an emotional cutscene of you ending your own pawn and you have to make a new one ( if the devs want to be really evil they lose all their skills etc but they level up faster or something)
It's to force the cash-shop wake stones are for sale in there for this reason
@vindurza no..... it's like what 3 stones? Still ain't saving your game
Edit its 5 stone you can buy in the store ya it wasn't put there for that lol nice try. I get mtx bad but you are hurting your cause by shooting out bad faith arguments
@@vindurza truly? i thought same level pawn cost 0 RC? also for main pawn you can just drown them and resummon back. Support pawns just go offline mode and pick your cherry
@@vindurza 5 Wakestones that you can only purchase once. Good luck reviving a town with a population of over 40 NPCs with that, buddy.
There's an item in the game that can revive an entire town. Infinitely more useful than the MTX shop's 5 Wakestones. You'd know if you played the game.
This would definitely be better imo. Maybe make it curable/preventable at the early stage/pre symptomatic. You just hired a support pawn with it, so you dispose of them and buy a potion for like 10k for your main pawn to cure it/vaccinate them for x days. You could risk not curing them, but by the time they start showing signs, it’s too late.
So barely noticeable tells aside, this mechanic sounds very cool. It is an incentive to check up on your pawns, treat them like you would your favourite NPC, and as a leader making a tough call, take them out for the sake of the many. Gameplay wise it helps with experiencing new compositions as your best wizard has to be thrown into the brine.
Will agree though, they need better tells for when the pawn has it. Maybe a dark aura effect surrounding them, and their skin becomes scaley like a dragon.
This is a really WTF mechanic in the game making your pawns go dark urge and murder everyone in the town you slept at.
Thanks for making this video! I hope tons of people see it and spread it so they can stop panicking about it. Theres been so much misinformation going around, this video will be a good resource to send people so they stop freaking out and saying its unavoidable.
thx for making a video about this might have gotten blindsided without this
This shit happened in Bakbattahl, happened to kill everyone up to the palace and down to the vendors...why is this a mechanic?
Can the vendors and kwy npc come back after a while?
@@CarlosRivera-cg4csas far as I know, only the venders respawn. Everyone else you need to wakestone.
@@hunterwilliams2833 what about quest npc, are u ruined in that?
@@CarlosRivera-cg4cs It happened to me in the elf village. Merchant NPCs are replaced, important/quest ones need to be revived in a graveyard. I was going to do the elf archer mission and he died. I resurrected him in the cemetery, but the mission doesn't continue... he would need to guide me to start target shooting and he doesn't guide me, he stays in place.
Because if anyone dares criticize Itsuno's "vision" they get nothing but hate in response.
I knew about the glowing eyes and grabbing the head portion of it, but never knew about the back talk, and thought it was to a specific attitude you can give pawns; I heard one of my hired pawns back talk me during one of the last fights in my second playthrough and didn't think to much about it as I was essentially spamming commands constantly, i.e. Help, Go, etc. I beat the game then before resting, thankfully without getting an entire capital wiped lol.
Bad mechanic, honestly, it shouldn't just insta kill everyone. Not only is it boring, but it's ridiculous. I love the concept of a pawn losing control, but insta death is lame, like what, you just slept through a genocide?
Definitely feels like it should be a boss that spawns or even your pawn that you need to fight & kill or something, so you have more agency over the situation. Like they start running around town fighting & killing NPCs & you can give chase to defeat them, with guards rushing in being a buffer for the other npcs, with it being on you to be strong enough to save your pawn/friend from themselves. Also my pawn already has purple eyes, its going to be hard telling 😅.
God, thanks for the notice. Wanted to avoid any spoiler but i am glad to be spoiled on this mechanics.
There either needs to be a better way of dealing with it like slaying the dragon that gave it to the pawn or it just shouldn't be in the game. It feels really punishing for no reason.
it would be far more interesting, if it turned the town into a dungeon, and you had to kill the pawn as it turns into a drake, to turn it back to normal.
Ahhhhh. I checked after this video and my pawn had the eyes lmao. Was very lucky i was next to the ocean. He got yeated so quick. Ty so much. I know who gave him it. Was that damn sassy sorceror Ethan!
You honestly mightve just saved me😂 was so confused when my pawns suddenly started holding their heads
In my opinion a shit mechanic. So if I'm not perceptive with my pawns I get punished by getting an entire town/city killed and I also get no reward for being perceptive... okay... come on capcom you guys could have totally made a cool mechanic here but instead we get this simple yet annoying mechanic by having to constantly check our pans and kill them if they get it.
:v
Skill issue
I just learned that if you wait after a town gets wiped they all just come back to life so...yeah... Idk at least we get funny clips of players being paranoid and throwing pawns in the water for the slightest sussy lines
You can manipulate the saves on PS5 by turning off the auto cloud and then manually uploading it… it has saved me a few times it’s annoying to do it every few hours but so worth it
How do U do it plz?
Funny how someone got permabanned trying to do that on Pc.
@@DarthAssViolater ikr
I hired a pawn for 10k RC to help me. It was dragon plauged 😢. Had to throw then off the cliff once their eyes started glowing... just got the eternal wakestone tho for the future
10k rc? How do you even have that much
10k rc pawn? what lvl what this pawn? you capping big time
Just keep in mind that is not an infinite item like some people are saying.
@waterw0rld1 I was like level 30 and the pawn was 50ish?
@multiact8800 never hiring pawns unless free. I went to level 30 without paying for them. I also grinded the liches at night, which give around 200 rc per kill
So my pawns contracted DIV and I had to sacrifice all to the brine, but I noticed that the pawn in question had abnormally high stats for it's vocation and level, so maybe stick with the pawns that have average stats. The pawn in this case was a level 52 mage with something like 800 magic defense and 750 magic.
I feel like this is such a cool concept, but having everyone die in a cutscene is kind of lame and honestly just makes me paranoid to sleep at inns
You used my clip!!!!!! REEEEEE
Thanks for clarifying a lot more about how to spot the eyes. My OBS settings need tweaked and I didn't think to talk to the pawns to see if the eye glow was present.
If you order them to wait you can talk to them using that dialogue. Normally they might not allow you to talk to them if they are constantly on the move.
I was curious about this cause new pawns are always talking about it when they come out of the rift. Thx!!
The concept of it is interesting if instead of random slaughter the infected pawns turn on you and backstab you during a big combat. My pawn can possibly get bodied by a 4 foot drop, how do they somehow slaughter an entire city full of guards? This mechanic needs to be disabled asap considering the forced 1 save slot. This feels like it was made to break saves and make you start over to pad game time, but it will just make people quit.
You can beat the game with literally every NPC in the game dead from what I know, then just slide into NG+. Everything fixed. You can also kill the Sphinx after doing her riddles and get the Eternal Wakestone that will revive an entire city.
I do agree there should be more preventative measures, but it doesn't brick your save. The game is all about the consequences of your actions... Well... There you go. A good idea is turn off the cloud save sync, then every day upload data to have a save to go back to.
@@SpacePirateLord Im sorry that I dont subscribe to the same kind of torture porn you do, but killing off a whole village and not having a way to stop it or go back is actually insane, why am I punished for missing the smallest of things, why does the game save as it happens, this is not fun at all, I dont wanna have to go speed run to get an item to revive someone, it should never happen, the 1 save only needs to go
@Zakharon From what I read online the people slowly return to life after a week as well. Seems the Seneschal doesn't allow the Arisen's path to stay messed up forever. So there's another option.
@@SpacePirateLord Side quests too?
@Zakharon From what Reddit said, yes. Cannot confirm it myself though. I am checking eyes and watching Pawns closely myself.
I kept wondering why one of my pawns kept sitting down and talking shit when I gave commands. So glad I came across this video.
Not sure why they'd put a game ending mechanic in-game with at launch no way to restart a new play through.TYTY i gotta keep watch the tips are really awesome .
it really is a "are you actually paying attention to the game?" type of mechanic, the game does warn you even before you ever enconter the plague. i just feel like killing everyone is a bit much, maybe if it was capped at 10 npcs it would be better
Nahh, it should wipe out the whole map from all npc's for 1 week or 2 and no option to camp or sleep . If you reach the resurrection date, you're good. If not, you'll die and need a new save. "Masochistic mode activated" :P
@@Antidepressiva1980I hope this happens to you every play through.
BRUTAL LOL
just got the pop literally an hour ago... XD
didn't see this one coming at all, good thing the vid popped on my feed (maybe the dragon gods are somewhat benevolent) now I've got to learn how to back-up save files I guess... until then, will have to be very careful... also, game says it's contagious... wonder if you can have more than one w/ the disease @ the same time, since game says the only way to get rid of your own is to pass to another pawn (not sure how that would work tho, since folks picking up you pawn is based on luck more than anything lol)
So it’s a mechanic to force you to switch out pawns often and not stick with that one op one you saved up RC for or bought.
U can favorit pawns and get them when ur right level. Or dont kill dragons.
This happened to me when I was level 40 with the same level 30 pawns I’d hired hours ago It’s a crappy half baked mechanic that should have received more development or just been cut.
@@obwolfyou can pass a few days in game and the most important npcs will respawn
Well thanks Capcom. You gave me a pre set option for red eyes and now i know why nobody hired my pawn yet THANKS!!
TL:DR - Murderhobo pawns are dumb, turn them into a dragon instead
I think like you suggested would've been awesome - as those who've played the first game know the origins of the dragon, it'd be interesting to have dragonsplague tied to the creation of drakes where when a pawn is cursed with it, they transform into a drake themselves. Then in turn, by slaying the pawn-drake (within the city or town you resided in so it can potentially lead to casualties) there could be a punishment system (like if its your main you cant use them for 24 irl hrs as they recover from the plague or if its a borrowed pawn, your world loses access to the rift/pawns for 24 irl hrs so you cant borrow any new pawns, minus the one you slayed)
(edit) A system like this would make dragonsplague as a whole more immersive and interactive while also developing more on the lore. This also would provide players the option to farm dragon related content/conquer the plague for a price rather than always being forced to sacrifice their pawns to the brine...
Okay... can we just talk for a second about how much of a ballsy move this mechanic is on the part of the Dragon's Dogma team?
As someone who frequently plays D&D and other TTRPGs and has interacted with a lot of different players during that time, you realize that you really have to know the people at your table and what you can and can't get away with. Whether that be as the GM or as the player. There are certain plot hooks or role play decisions that really only work if you have the right people to play off. You really have to trust the people in your game for certain things to work and be appreciated.
Using that concept of "trust" in a ttrpg as a parallel, if DD2 were a D&D campaign (which it essentially is), I would NOT trust 90% of the people I've ever played with to roll with a mechanic like Dragonplague and actually appreciate it for what it is. It has the potential to be a really cool emergent gameplay element, but you really, REALLY need to have someone who is in that headspace to enjoy it.
So, yeah. While I'm not wild about some of the game's launch issues, I'm still loving this game so much. Most devs would not put THAT much trust in their players.
Except it’s half baked and needs much more development for it to be worth keeping in the game. All it does is kill every npc in the settlement and the game world doesn’t react to it in any other capacity. It’s cool to hear about in a video but when it destroys your first play through midway through it’s not nearly as exciting.
Everyone playing needs this information lol thankyou for this I was wondering what would be happening
My pawns go down enough you know falling off cliffs and what not so I don't have worry about this
unforntunately for me, I picked up a pawn after starting a couple of quests that required that I traveled from major city to major city a couple of times around so I did a lot of oxcarting and that progressed the days really quickly so I didn't have a lot of time to just hang out with them and see symptoms. In hindsight, I did check their eyes just in case but I didn't know if they were just normal red pupils or glowy bad red pupils, then a couple of oxcarts and a inn rest later, it was gg for my city. Also I'd like to mention with time, the city's denizens will slowly revive, usually week+ stuff, but in my experience, it seems like quest npcs either have a low priority or take a reaaaaaally long time to come back.
Yeah its not as serious as these youtubers make it, doing it all for the views only. If you turn in a quest in said city that triggers a cut scene, all NPCs come back right away. Except those side quest npcs, they take longer. For me, i let the capital get nuked just to see the cut scene, and then i had to turn in a quest for Wilhelmina. I revived her and turned it in, after the cut scene the majority of NPCs were back alive. Only ones i was missing were Brant and the old dude in archives
I nuked Harve, haven’t gone back yet, but I didn’t have any symptoms.
If your whole village is dead just take a seat somewhere and spam that Nodding off button 3 times is 1 Day, and in 4-5 Days all the ppl in the village just respawn, and also my beautiful ppl mops and bosses spawn again after 7 Days of resting, mean actually you can insta farm All Mini-boses by resting for 7 Days or Napping on a seat 24 times = 7 Days, you don’t have to stand up and take a seat again, just spam the nap button right after he wakes up from the Nap
OMG WHY IS THIS A THING?!?! Seriously, what were the devs thinking??? This is not a fun mechanic, or even a fair one. I already had to deal with Gregor the NPC dying from something. Now I have to worry about everyone in town? That just seems ludicrous! If you hadn't have told us, a lot of us would have had our games ruined and would need to start over. Only it would probably just happen again. You have armed us with knowledge and for that we are grateful!
There is a mod that fixes this on PC
I had a pawn that I adventured with for a couple of hours that showed no symptoms. No glowy eyes, no head clutching, no backtalk, nothing and then bam, Vernworth wiped out. I had just enough wakestones to rez quest vital NPCS but this mechanic is still really atrociously implemented. You technically can't softlock your game since there's an infinite wakestone to be had but come on. Who wants to spend all that time working around this mechanic and then spending even more time recovering from it if the pawn shows no symptoms or you need to go hunt for wakestones to rez vital NPCS?
There's not an infinite wakestone to be had, agreed, it's a shitty mechanic, half-baked and half-thought out, I love the game but this mechanic needs to be either hotfixed out or just fixed.
Bullshit, you didnt pay attention and you suffered the consequences.
Gamers these days are such crybabies...
@@ryumanjisen3494 nah fuck that, don’t defend shitty game design, I’d be completely fine with this if it was done in a better way. The current “oh no your pawn is sick, suddenly they killed the entire town” is not a good story and it’s not good game design, especially since the only way to fix it is to use a one time use item, that can only be obtained once, and it’s breaking quest givers at the same time, couple this with the fact that you can only have one save slot, it’s just awfully implemented.
At no point does it warn you that one day when going to bed your pawn is going to kill the entire town.
@@Killerjerick Suddenly? The game gives you enough days to notice the change in your pawn behaviour, not to mention the red eyes and the headaches.
You only have, you know, to pay attention. You just failed, take the L and wait for a week, the important NPC's will be resurrected after thst time.
@@ryumanjisen3494The problem is it bugs your quest givers, I know that there are signs but a better way to handle this would be your pawn simply going off the rails while exploring and attacking everyone and everything, upon which you can put them down.
This is not to mention bugs like the Magistrate quest bug that forces random npcs to attack you. Things like this should not exist when the devs ask for AAA payment for their game, did QA not happen?
Sounds like a half-baked feature if a cure is dying and the culmination is a short cutscene, disaster strikes and arisen sleeps while the pawn goes on a happy murder spree? Doesn't make sense that they took away player agency on this.. 😢
kinda does to me. this game can be quite sadistic. x_x
Yep the lack of agency is what seems like the main problem with this. Like even once you know the signs, there's no guarantee you can avoid it.
@@Willow4526 the video seems to say that it is really easy to avoid by just killing your pawn/unsummoning.
The key here people are missing is that it doesnt matter how long they have it and who they spread it to, as long as one does not sleep at an inn, one will be fine. Realistically, sleeping at an inn does nothing profound enough to even have to do it. It's expensive and you cannot get cooking buffs. Camp sites are littered everywhere and mostly close to inns anyway. I'll still keep an eye out and eradicate the disease when needed. 👌
@@snazzydrew no no, you miss understand. I'm not saying once you've noticed the signs in a pawn there nothing you can do.
I'm saying even once you learn what the signs are, there's no guarantee you'll ever spot the signs before they progress to completion & if you do happen to miss them, let's say you disable the settings for voice lines, pawn wears a helmet or just that unlucky, the plague will trigger & all you can do or anyone say is "better luck next time", which means you have no/next to no agency, if there was an active mechanic you could interact with after the plague triggers to help prevent deaths, than you'd have agency.
So this is what that one NPC was talking about in the CHECKPOINT REST TOWN. When he said everyone in the village to the north died mysteriously.
My pawn was showing all of the these signs luckily I saw this video before resting at another inn lmao, I didn't notice the flashing red eyes because I made my pawn's eyes red like a vampire the main thing I noticed was it telling me not to command it in battle
I give it two weeks trolls find a way to infect basically every pawn in the game. Guess we should all only use the Capcom pawns. Yay poorly explained, near hidden, game mechanics working as intended 😒
Are you certain capcom pawns are safe tho?
@@mrsneedleton3254 I’m gonna say maybe.
My first message bout the plague was from a capcom pawn, so no. not even those are safe@@redshiftracing7583
Kinda bugs me that they implemeted Dragonsplague like this. I mean, after 40-50 hours, the last thing you want is a game-breaking "intended" mecanic that ruins your playthrough, and oh, good luck on restarting the game :D
Its not game breaking, the title of video is click bait. The NPC's respawn after about a week in game time.
Just play offline, the default CAPCOM pawns can't never catch it. I normally hire paws every few levels. So far so good.
I'll be honest. the studio needs to do one of two things with this.
Either remove Dragon Plague as a whole. It's not fun, it's not obvious, and it's just pure anxiety and stress.
or give us save files so we have a way to go back and prevent it before it fucks over the whole run.
Or you can cycle pawns frequently like they want you to do. The plague only happens over a long time.
Nope, either adapt to the design choice or leave . Not all games are meant for "everybody" .
you can still play and start a new cycle in your game. You dont need to start over.
No.
@Antidepressiva1980 this is just a stupid mechanic that adds NOTHING to the game.
You dont get anything for preventing it. Its just something annoying.
There's no sense of risk or reward to it. There's nothing it provides other than something you need to add as a checklist.
i just wanna share ive had this happen twice in a row today while resting in the inn by Checkpoint Rest Town (the one next to the Oxcart that goes to Battahl). I was so annoyed that it killed everyone in the city but what i just discovered is that when I went to Vermund Funeral (where you revive NPCs) went to look for a body (did not actually choose anyone), and upon going back to Checkpoint Rest Town by oxcart from Vermund, everyone freaking came back to life. I confirmed i was able to do this twice today when dragonsplague happened. So I'm not sure if it only applies to Checkpoint Rest Town
The mechanic would be fun or at least interesting if an infected pawn killed one NPC per day of being infected and you wouldn’t know until your favourite NPC was missing. Killing an entire town randomly (and I do mean randomly because none of my pawns were showing symptoms) just isn’t fun. And the solution being completing a not fun quest either is just a massive middle finger and a lack of respect of the players time. I was in the middle of a quest and now I have to work my way through another just to fix this, ugh
The fact we cant start a new game is ridiculous.
My running theory was that the worse dragonsplague gets in a pawn, the closer they are to "awakening" into an independent person, as happens to Selene and your main pawn in the previous game. Apparently not.
At least is explains why Berith has anti-pawn bias
this is hilarious and brilliant and I love it. the not being able to create new character or save is bs though.
Literally the same as dd1 cry more
@SwordsmanMihawk326 dark arisen let's you
@@SwordsmanMihawk326in dd1 you could atleast reset the game and start over again this one doesn’t allow for anything like that.
@@SwordsmanMihawk326you can make a new game in dragons dogma 1 and you could also activate hard mode to start a new game without losing your progress.
You are wrong, Stop being a dick 🙂
@@SwordsmanMihawk326 yeah in dd1 you couldn't accidentally destroy the capital city and ruin your chances at making it to the next new game plus loop.
And to be honest the game doesn't loop very well since there's no way to increase the difficulty to match your strength earned in the first run.
If you let this happen then you really are oblivious.
And here I thought I was kinda stupid for not realizing I had to do something specific during the fight with the Red Dragon.
There is multiple ways to deal with the Dragon's Plague before it really becomes a problem.
Pawns eyes will start to glow red and they will start ignoring commands such as follow and like they mention themselves they will start to behave iratical and you will hear that in their voice lines.
I actually haven't let any Pawns go beyond this state, It is as simple as picking them up and throwing them.
After which they will say 'Are you dissapointed in me, Master?'
You are good after that.
love the game.., most immersive quests since Skyrim (unless you let Pwans guide / spoil them..), fresh combat (manual targeting) and epic landscapes to explore, love it! GOTY already!