The Defenders Debate | Arknights Analysis

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  • @eurekaayu9927
    @eurekaayu9927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    when da Nian has Arts Damage, Ultra Armor and +block count to allies

    • @freakdeath1020
      @freakdeath1020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Practically forgotten nian.

    • @markopusic8258
      @markopusic8258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      To be honest I never understood why people tend to discard Nian as a really good defender. Sure her S3 isn't that good 90% of the time, but the S1 and S2 are pretty good. She easily reaches 1k attack with S1 and deals arts dmg while already having a boat load of defense. And her S2 is basically Cuora 2.0, she's practically invincible with that skill you can't look past that. Plus her talents are pretty good too, the shields require knowledge of the maps to be used at maximum efficiency that much is true and it sucks when you're discovering a map and you put her down to tank nothing, but it still has great uses and the talent that increases defender's hp is really good too. More hp means more survivability against all kinds of dmg not only physical like Hoshiguma does.
      I really don't understand why people look down on Nian she might not be the best but she's still pretty goddamn good

    • @lukmaanpratomo6866
      @lukmaanpratomo6866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      And put Cuora near Nian, and you have Cuora who can suddenly block 5-6 enemies at once, effectively clumping them together with her skill 2 😂.
      Just uhh, be prepared for extreme frame drops when you decide to kill those clumped enemies in a single go 😂.

    • @freakdeath1020
      @freakdeath1020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@markopusic8258 ppl are salty to nian because she's limited.

    • @eurekaayu9927
      @eurekaayu9927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@markopusic8258 Nian > Hoshi forever! Nian just brings way too much utility for her own good... she's a versatile defender... glad i pulled her on her event... she carried my sad ass through ToW which is still my favorite event to date... and couldn't have done it without Nian... having to take in 5 Collosus punches

  • @wollyram6248
    @wollyram6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +318

    Spot: the dog no one likes.
    Gumy: the bear everyone loves.
    The duality of healing defenders.

    • @axios4702
      @axios4702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      That wasnt Spot, it was Hung.
      No one minds Spot because he is chill. Oh and he is a hyena.

    • @wollyram6248
      @wollyram6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@axios4702 Shush you!
      Do you have any idea how many times Spot spooked me on healer defender tags and stole yellow certs from me?!
      A pox on that fuzzy bone muncher!

    • @axios4702
      @axios4702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@wollyram6248 Oh thats right, before they added him to recruitment healer defender tags gave you Gummy. Oh well blame the game not hyena.

    • @texasgaming1349
      @texasgaming1349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@axios4702 doesnt change the fact that he's a furry

    • @wollyram6248
      @wollyram6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@texasgaming1349 Suffer not the furry to live desu!

  • @ZeHeavyArmor
    @ZeHeavyArmor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    As one who has done defenderknights, hot damn there's a loooot of DPS choices for a operator class that is meant to tank and defend with a certain two of them matching or in the case of the mecha using one doing nearly twice the damage of fucking Silverash.

    • @axios4702
      @axios4702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Eunectes is perfect for boss killing. Support her right and she can take on anyone.

    • @XynRemained
      @XynRemained 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      blem s2 m3 with support of just silence's m3 drone for when blem recharging can fucking defend forever against anyone as long as the enemy don't one shot her or immune to sleep
      tried to use her to stall *2 bladehelm knight elite* (that hard hitting knight with lightsaber spear that can revive in MN and anni 4), and she takes them on like a champ

  • @prinsipiogg9657
    @prinsipiogg9657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Cuora not using her shield while being attacked makes her the best tank

  • @silentwrath8292
    @silentwrath8292 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yii : "The dog that no one likes..."
    Hung users: 'Disagrees with Yii in head'
    Yii: *SNEEZES*

  • @kurukuru2518
    @kurukuru2518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    "The Dog no one like"
    I never been So agree to any statement in my life

    • @lemao1590
      @lemao1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I wanted hung

  • @lukmaanpratomo6866
    @lukmaanpratomo6866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Yii: Amiya what happened? You don't look so good.
    Amiya: Dokutah, you drew / chose this illustration to represent me, have I always looked good to you?
    Jokes aside though, I am REALLY curious about that Amiya png. It's both adorable and cursed at the same time 😂.
    Also, ahh yes Cuora the turtle Defender. My go-to Defender during Contigency Contract Blade used purely for tanking a buffed Faust + her cheap DP cost even at E2. And yeah she does one hell of a job taking those purple shots to the face only flinching to half HP 😂.
    Fun fact: I E2-ed my Cuora and M3-ed her Skill 2 just for gags, but I was shocked to see the value of her HP and DEF stats when her skill 2 pops. About 1K Physical DEF is no joke lol 😂.

  • @meridianmile8033
    @meridianmile8033 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I guess I'm an intermediate player (stuck on 5-10). Arknights is my life right now.

  • @dalgona4819
    @dalgona4819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The dog no one likes" *cries in Hung and Detective Agency squad fan*

  • @UnknownedEntity-
    @UnknownedEntity- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    2:20 the dog no one likes.
    Me who put all my possessions to him: Why you must hurt me this way?

  • @typomisdirect2612
    @typomisdirect2612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yii:The dog Noone likes
    The furry community:And I took that personally

  • @Mika-172
    @Mika-172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I honesty knew everything you said already but I was still invested enough to finish the whole thing
    Love the way you present your videos, keep it up!
    And I'm even more invested in the dokutah and amiya lore we have going on

  • @Murmarine
    @Murmarine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Setting Hung against a wall and seeing him literally heal back like a thousand HP every 2 seconds is very fun.

  • @kevinseraphin5456
    @kevinseraphin5456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "The dog no one likes, gumy and spot"
    there's a mistake, you said spot twice.

  • @notrealsaga
    @notrealsaga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    When i tell people new to the game "Coura will be in your main team for a very long time" no one believes me, until they do ❤️

    • @mechbean6953
      @mechbean6953 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uh I know this is an old comment, but Im level 87 and I haven’t lvled Coura at all. Is she extremely good or something? I’ll finish watching this video so maybe it’ll answer it?

    • @Edelgard-and-Claude-simp
      @Edelgard-and-Claude-simp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mechbean6953 she's one of the literal best defenders until you get E2 6 star defenders and then she's still as good as them

    • @mechbean6953
      @mechbean6953 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Edelgard-and-Claude-simp oh rip. I got Saria and Mudrock, but after spending 200 summons and only getting snek lady and no other 6 stars I quit the game out of rage.

    • @Edelgard-and-Claude-simp
      @Edelgard-and-Claude-simp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mechbean6953 yeah she's one of best defenders due to being tanky and have 4 block and also needing a lower priority whilst her second skill is up because it gives her regen
      Also in general shes got one of the highest defence in game

    • @mechbean6953
      @mechbean6953 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Edelgard-and-Claude-simp dang thats pretty impressive

  • @timebernerz
    @timebernerz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    all i know is mudrock and hoshiguma spin and spin = win

  • @Nimicov
    @Nimicov 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wake up honey,
    It's Yii's new video

  • @scharlakenvogel9513
    @scharlakenvogel9513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice video. Until now I don't understand why some people dislike Spot :/
    Btw, could you please make a playlist for this series?

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      maybe? idk

    • @shinshi1972
      @shinshi1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use Spot to heal duelist guard if possible

    • @weebman6996
      @weebman6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *we dislikes him because HG decides to add him in recruitment.*

    • @scharlakenvogel9513
      @scharlakenvogel9513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@weebman6996 Ah, so that means his existence in recruitment lowered the chance to get Gummy?

    • @weebman6996
      @weebman6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scharlakenvogel9513 yes.

  • @elysium7329
    @elysium7329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:33
    bless you

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thank you

  • @yoruka_
    @yoruka_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the sauce for Amiya in the thumbnail? Or did you made it yourself

  • @pixel1325
    @pixel1325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    dude who keeps making yii these fire thumbnails

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      one of my very lovely friends :)
      we both dont like resorting to clickbait so the thats why the thumbnails turn out this way

  • @gretafreitag2041
    @gretafreitag2041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hung is the best defender I don't make the rules

  • @iang257
    @iang257 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You think those Amiya fumos are back in stock?

  • @kurukuru2518
    @kurukuru2518 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nice Zafang Merch

  • @buihuy5211
    @buihuy5211 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Late here but I literally have not have Hung outside of the Nian banner and people only hate him because he is the only 5 stars in the Nian banner and then people barely use Nian anyway, so... Yeah

  • @davesarmita4816
    @davesarmita4816 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, hypergrpyph wasn't kidding when they said DEFENDERS

  • @Istreakilaz
    @Istreakilaz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Forget the Analysis Video, what Kind of an event is currently going on in Yiiniverse right now? ಠ_ಠ
    Also... 2:34 bless you.
    .
    On a more serious note, as someone who just got Cuora just a few days ago on the R6 Banner (thanks the Gacha gods for FINALLY!), I would say Cuora's worth doesn't really start to shine until you E150 her, by which point her Def can reach outstanding levels, provided you also atleast lvl5 her skills. But i knew she was *very pog* and desperately tired to roll for her. Just didn't expect to have to raise her quite a bit first to get to that meta level (Coming from a newbie, that means a LOT of resources went into her).
    This is also troubling, because Beagle is a good Tanker, but somewhat lags in the HP department, which is an important factor as well, as even if your Def is high, constant DPS from the enemy even if little wreck her over time. In this case Spot or Cardigan is much better, even if their damage is lesser (although, that cancerous Spot drop rate from Recruitment though... HNNNNNNNNNNGGGG!!!!
    Ending up burning a big chunk of my resources on raising Cuora and Liskarm through, because my main Defenders were usually Cardigan and Matterhorn... the Latter of whom i consider best Defender boi (Matterorn rate when?) Admittedly, his skills are less useful though, as it is usually Def damage a Defender should usually be worried about than Res, when the need to use skills arises.
    Also, Dur--nar is pretty cool i guess, just got her. But i feel like one should rely on casters, specially AoE for the mass hoards that get collected in from of a defender, instead of using her. ..But i'm still a CC no show, so.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    ANYWAY!! tangent aside, This format good. More content when, Senpai?!

  • @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094
    @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    I'm still waiting for the guard analysis video, also Spot is actually quite pog in fungimist and Hung is usable if you pair him with blemshine

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      that one is going to take way too long

    • @XynRemained
      @XynRemained 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hung is *barely* useable with blem.....
      by that point it's just better to use gummy instead of hung

    • @axios4702
      @axios4702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@XynRemained True, gummy is the best healing defender (because lets be honest Blemishine deserves her own category)

    • @sylvandoggo4416
      @sylvandoggo4416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@XynRemained Hung + Ash = enough said xd

    • @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094
      @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@XynRemained well, in most situations gummy is already better than hung blemshine or no blemshine lol

  • @blahtoblahtoto6441
    @blahtoblahtoto6441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:33 Bless you! Also I can't get enough of that Megaman x sounds

  • @wildcard7919
    @wildcard7919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love hung dude come on don't do my good boi like that

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i like the skin art. too bad his kit is poop

    • @isleep7262
      @isleep7262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HiImYii i don’t get it, if Hung is bad, then Croissants is arguable worse but no one said anything about her. I know they are not the same archetype but hear me out. Hung is not really a traditional ground medics like the rest of his archetypes. He’s meant to be a core tank.
      As someone who invested in both, the performance in general game is basically the same. With Hung offering way more versatility.
      They have the around the same DEF using skill with Hung only falling behind 100 points. Hung with skill is deceptive tanky, being able to tank both Physical and Arts with no RNG, at skill level 7 he has a Theoretical 9K HP bar with his self healing. Manual trigger skill so you can save it for important moments, high initial SP cost that can be used to stall for 30s upon deployment. And he gives SP if he ended up healing anyone. Defensive recovery is indeed annoying, it charges too slow for a healing skill, but for a defensive skill it charges faster than most normal defenders’ defense up skills. And with Blemishine he’s uptime is insane.
      I find Hung to be extreme underrated. No where near as bad as most people gives him credit for.

  • @vanvan0301
    @vanvan0301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    amazing

  • @kenshi4545
    @kenshi4545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew Liskarm is good but I couldn't get myself to E2 her.. I got bigger defender player to E2 unfortunately.. Like maybe after Asbestos E2 and maybe Blitz.

    • @yunan9610
      @yunan9610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Liskarm is definitely better than those two in terms practicality. Skill two can be a good source of damage while skill 1 is a decent defensive skill. And of course the sp talent is always good

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      shh dont tell anyone i said this but asbestos’ damage is garbage
      i literally aak’d her in the video and she still performs poorly

    • @kenshi4545
      @kenshi4545 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah rely on defender as main DPS is normally a mistake unless you have a Mudrock or Blemshine. And having both Hoshi and Cuora E2 yet using them so little even lesser than my E2 Gummy, I highly doubt I would ever use even a E2 Liskarm.

    • @markopusic8258
      @markopusic8258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kenshi4545 Yeah Blem and Mudrock aren't exactly defenders at this point. One is a "decent" defender that turns into a healing guard and the other is a kind of ultimate life form made to demolish things

  • @ecthelionalfa
    @ecthelionalfa ปีที่แล้ว

    I belive in bubble supremacy,
    There are better and stronger defenders, but my faith stay with the mighty rinoceros

  • @shyamsundar7737
    @shyamsundar7737 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nian gang crying 🥲 waiting for the next part

  • @tehufn
    @tehufn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the art :)

  • @ivy4360
    @ivy4360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Yii! Pineapples on pizza ya or na?

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i dont dislike it

  • @Dodo-mc2vm
    @Dodo-mc2vm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And now we have fortess, defenders who can deal aoe damage for launched attacks

  • @ninja6245-real
    @ninja6245-real 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about sentinel protectors?

  • @zusukoriotomo
    @zusukoriotomo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but yii I unironically use hung :(

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats cool but im sorry for your poor taste

  • @jesterreaper945
    @jesterreaper945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sneeze signal distruption

  • @spammerman7556
    @spammerman7556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mic quality sucks

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you i didnt know that

  • @gandessupartinah5650
    @gandessupartinah5650 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you add archetype icon? just for extra;)

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ill do it next time :)

  • @Shunnie0301
    @Shunnie0301 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cant wait for the thick 🐍

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      part 2 :)

  • @1eo144
    @1eo144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hung slander is not real.

  • @Revoltine
    @Revoltine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:40
    Hate to break it to ya bud but have you seen Asbestos S2? When activated, it works as a true AoE with the range of Surtr S3/Broca S2 (both are not true AoE) and hits aerial enemies. If there's a map that bans all ranged tiles/operators, Asbestos S2 is the only non-guard operator who can even dream of killing the high DEF high HP ones because Blitz and Liskarm (yes they can hit aerial enemies too) do diddly squat amounts of damage to them.

    • @kevin427
      @kevin427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Asbestos S2 isn't true AOE, it's splash damage
      It's also got a weird range that's like the spreadshooter snipers but with an extra tile in front

  • @Dianbler
    @Dianbler ปีที่แล้ว

    Dorito Oni is best tank

  • @Zafang
    @Zafang 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    im forever watching you now...

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i ❤️ zafang

    • @schlop1771
      @schlop1771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HiImYii gay

  • @hyperonestarcraft
    @hyperonestarcraft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    man I was so confused because at 5:30, it shows Cuora S2 at SL1 instead of SL7 or something like that
    cool video though

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oops

  • @luckykari9448
    @luckykari9448 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But I like Hung. . .

  • @basedanon1353
    @basedanon1353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love hung

  • @lawrizli8672
    @lawrizli8672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sub

  • @sorcierenoire8651
    @sorcierenoire8651 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where's the ACTUAL niche operator? Thicc Thigh Reptile?

  • @decaymodi
    @decaymodi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yii what happened to your mic

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it sucked

  • @montony000
    @montony000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:02 blemishine and ifrit sync tho TwT

  • @abura2980
    @abura2980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:32 LMAO

  • @sayantanpaul5947
    @sayantanpaul5947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No mention of french bread? Sad.

  • @AquaticIdealist
    @AquaticIdealist 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    8 bit alf video theme. Culture.

  • @yapwengjoeyap8293
    @yapwengjoeyap8293 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Qwasoint best protector if you are lucky enough

  • @talab703
    @talab703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:33 bro keep ur cowona to urself please

  • @HeroicPeanutOfStormAndLightnin
    @HeroicPeanutOfStormAndLightnin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your mic kinda sucks bruh

  • @xxpoggamerdrakweexx2043
    @xxpoggamerdrakweexx2043 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where the yii Fumo :)

  • @shingyanling1856
    @shingyanling1856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:19 agreed 1000000%
    Just yello certs lol

  • @FakeSkinSAG
    @FakeSkinSAG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I approve of this video cause of waifu reasons. Also it`s a pretty good video.

  • @zatky
    @zatky 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yii simping Zafang hmmm

  • @suki4524
    @suki4524 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mic quality sucks.

  • @Monsterpala
    @Monsterpala 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This the dog NOONE LIKES likes is soo wrong!
    Spot is a hyenna NOONE Likes!

    • @vynnvincero
      @vynnvincero 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least spot doesn't take your chance to get another 5* when the gold bag appear

  • @koekelbagstrogoff966
    @koekelbagstrogoff966 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I feel you should have mentioned about "Arts Iron Guards" (Is that really the name?) is that they have a higher res at E2 (Durnar has 15, Asbestos a whopping 25) than the other types, meaning they are much better in situations where arts enemies would overwhelm your other defenders (see: especially every melee arts enemy).
    Maybe this was brought up in part two, but just in case.

  • @Shinigamix_
    @Shinigamix_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im a hoshi guy myself.

  • @ABananaTree
    @ABananaTree 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, that pyrite canyon bibeak clear is still one of the craziest perma map clears

  • @EnderLeon67D
    @EnderLeon67D 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zafang is balls

  • @Ulappa
    @Ulappa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    intresting

  • @az7433046
    @az7433046 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yii, no hate, I loved your Video, but I think you should re upload it.
    I can understand what youre saying, but I had a hard time because its too low. On mobile its hell. Even with max volume and sticking my ear to the speaker, it was still hard to hear you, not to mention I had to rewatch the video cuz I wasnt able to SEE

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      uhhhhhhhhhhh im too lazy to do that but i understand
      sorry about the audio lol

    • @az7433046
      @az7433046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HiImYii it was a good video. Managed to watch it on PC afterwards so it was cool.
      But try to check it out next time, this was harder than last cc💀

  • @shoelacesuwu1590
    @shoelacesuwu1590 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    n o i c e

  • @readyRick
    @readyRick 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how yii doin

  • @arcvyndyraxa
    @arcvyndyraxa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yee

  • @kupo4914
    @kupo4914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are those zafang tshirt gonna be on sale

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      19.99$

  • @ogoniasty3423
    @ogoniasty3423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the plot thickens ;o

  • @kyubbikcat2281
    @kyubbikcat2281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    *sneeze*

  • @Mika-172
    @Mika-172 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New series lets gooo

  • @linatchaika223
    @linatchaika223 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bold of you to assume anyone likes either dog in the healing defender category

  • @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094
    @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    6:20 *Aoe guard, but worse. Hoshi's DMG is pitiful and generally unable to do more than scratch dmg to any late game/elite mobs. If anything she's more like a tanky but way less damaging version of reaper guards since she hits an unlimited number of opponents in her range

    • @HiImYii
      @HiImYii  3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You undermine Hoshi’s damage quite a bit. Yes, in later chapters the enemies have higher defense, but she can still perform well with general mobbing. At peak stats, her atk with S3 is around 1k, which most enemies have lower defense than. Remember everyone molding on OD-8 recently? Well it also bypasses the tumors’ aspd down effect. Of course she doesn’t match the damage AoE guards provide since they have skills and stats dedicated to DPS, but Hoshi’s subrole of DPS shouldn’t be underestimated with S3. Also, reaper guards have the quirky range and “can’t be healed” trait. I don’t think that’s a good comparison for a tank.

    • @ZeHeavyArmor
      @ZeHeavyArmor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The value of Hoshiguma is being able to tank super well while being able to dust off mobs and other low armor units, and there are lots of dangerous low armor units be it casters, Enraged Possessed, Bloodshamans, the big croc champs and etc. At peak stats she has 1k damage which mulches all non-heavy defense enemies. Sure there's lots of high defense enemies but having an op who will not go splat against high hitting enemies while enabling you to focus on said big guys hitting her because Hoshiguma cleared off all the mooks/low defense enemies is quite nice to have.

    • @axios4702
      @axios4702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What the others said. A problem of tanky defenders is that they often end up stuck fighting the high defense enemies. While the big guys have them distracted the rest pile on unharmed and eventually leak. Hoshiguma's S3 bypasses this by attacking all enemies at the same time and that has saved me in many stages.
      And even if she were just a bad AOE guard, you still get the benefits of an AOE guard and a very tanky defender with a single operator.

    • @michaell1892
      @michaell1892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is.. some really stupid comparison. Saying Hoshiguma is a bad AoE guard is like saying that Blaze (the apex of AoE guard) is a worse Hoshiguma because of her "low" defense (an atk that can one shot Blaze (S2M3) can only deal a little more than Hoshi's(S3M3) hp while an atk that can't get through Hoshi's def deals 25% of Blaze's hp).
      They each have their own use.

    • @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094
      @ifyouwantmoneythengivemeev8094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@michaell1892 I'm just rebutting yii's statement that: "during her s3, Hoshi becomes a better Aoe guard", which is clearly not the case.