KOMPLETE KONTROL M32 with Ableton Live | Setup & Workflow
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- Setting up the M32 by Native Instruments with Ableton Live
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I love when you do a workflow video like this. It's so much better then the run-of-the-mill reviews you find when you search on youtube. It works for people who own it and are new to the device a brief tutorial AND it gives people who don't own it yet a preview of what their workflow might look like on something different.
Excellent video, thank you for taking the time to make this! New owner of an M32 and this taught me a few things in an easy to remember way!
I have been watching TH-cam tutorials for music production from last year October 2022,yes indeed I found some good tutorials,but I have to be very specific,I don't know nothing about music theory,I don't know to play any instrument regardless that I bought the novation mk3,but I couldn't play it because,I couldn't understand the numbers,but while I was scrolling around on TH-cam,then I met up with this gorgeous Peggy's,thank you,thank you, thank you for your chord progression tutorials,just one day,then boom I found myself where I needed most to be .
This tutorial has helped me,and you deserve my subscription.
May god bless you.,keep doing the good work of educating us the ones who can't afford to go to a musical school.
Salute beautiful lady.
As soon as I get the M32 I'm take my studio on the road!!! Thanks for the vid!!!
I always come back to Taetro tutorials!
I just bought one, hopefully receiving it tomorrow, and this tutorial is perfect for me.. Thanks.
Where did you find it? It's not currently on stock on amazon or sweetwaters apparently
@@ToxicHumanCorporation www.thomann.de/es/native_instruments_komplete_kontrol_m32.htm
As beatz04 mentioned, the M32 integration with Ableton is quite limited with the current version of the firmware/script: the Plug-In mode only works with Native Instrument's own Komplete and Mashine plug-ins, and won't automatically map to the selected Ableton racks "macro" knobs. Nor can you navigate the Ableton Browser with the M32 (you can just navigate the Komplete or Maschine browser of the plug-in).
Unless you use Native Instrument plugins, at this point the M32 will just allow you to select tracks and clips, start/stop/record, move the playhead, quantise, change tempo, toggle loop, control the mixer (volume/pan).
Maybe a future script will enable a more complete integration, but I couldn't find any indication this is coming.
One of the latest beta (10.1b18) of Ableton Live has added support for the Komplete Kontrol M32. Awaiting for release :)
It doesn’t work with the ableton instruments and effects, hope ableton will fix it
Thing is, NI is a very good instrument to play with, it's the controller made for the VST and vice versa. It's just not that good (now) with DAWs, say Ableton and others: it has its own shell and does not play well with the environment. It's getting better tho, now you have automap sound parameters AND when you change to track mode you can control volume and pan. Not as good as an AKAI that can control Ableton devices, sends and all while managing tracks. Question is: do you play Ableton instruments or would you rather use NI? O the other hand: it does few things but it does them well, it has infinite knobs, it does not have BAD PAD, it has GOOD keys (for the price), it does not have slides that are often not needed.
If you have good pads coz you care, you have a launchpad for managing tracks, what are you gonna play with? This does the play part well.
MCU Support for Komplete Kontrol S-Series MK2 and A-Series (including M32) keyboards has been announced for next patch
bro you fixed my problem in literally the first minute of your video. Love you! lol
RAVE ON!!!
Ordered M32 today! Thanks for this tutorial.
Please go through the software bundles. As a first-time buyers, it would be great to see what the software bundles is able to do.
@UHBUV Thank you. Novation Launchkey mk2 49 seem to the more attractive choice for me now.
this was, like, super intriguing and super helpful
I've bought komplete kontrol a61 recently and this tutorial also works for it. Thanks!
In preferences, I chose komplete Kontrol A, like you said but on the out put, it gives me these options: komplete kontrol m32 midi, that’s it,
on the out put, it gives me the options of : microsoft gs wavetable synth, komplete kontrol m32 midi , the options you gave are not present, it works glitched and delayed. I am using ableton 11 with the M32 keyboard, I would appreciate your help!
Im having the same problem did u get it fixed
@@chasestewart8419 no luck yet friend…..
Just set mine up in the same way. I use with an ableton push, its quite nice to be able to control the the volume levels on each of the playing clips plus the big navigation nob allows you to jump around the different clips. pretty cool. works for me
I love it young wimpersnapper liked and subscribed
Ordered one for myself
In my Ableton m32 in midi input and outout KOMPLETE KONTROL A DAW" is not showing what should I do pls let me know
0:00 - Taetro-Intro
0:12 - Merchandise
0:30 - Channel talk
0:44 - About the M32
1:22 - 1. Moving files
1:38 - 2. Updating your software and keyboard
1:50 - Ableton preferences
2:26 - Demonstrating the M32 functions
9:10 - Thoughts
9:47 - Taetro-Outro
Sanjayc also made a video about this: th-cam.com/video/i6-PR5FrnJA/w-d-xo.html
Repro 1 and repro 5 synths are incredible ! Thanks for the vid
Thanks a lot for this vid! Just bought one today and really enjoying it. Only thing I'm missing so far is automatic mapping of device parameters for Ableton's instruments and effects. Manual mapping works but is not fast to switch between devices.
@@beatz04 Absolutely. I'm going to try and see how I can get it to work, since you can do midi mapping. The NI vst's that come with it are also nice though but I want it to have the full integration.
@@beatz04 Agreed. I returned mine and got a Novation Launchkey instead :D
Thanks for this video, I manged to setup my M32 so all the buttons work with Ableton .But thanks for showing how to use the software that really helps me has a beginner.
Thanks for this helpful video! Does anyone know how to navigate the browser and select sounds in Ableton using the m32? When I hit the browse button on the top right nothing happens
Hey, I just need some advice, because I'm planning to get my first midi keyboard and have this in my mind. The only ONE thing, that one little thing, that's bugging me, is that it doesn't have drum pads; everything else is perfect, just that one thing.
I just wanted to ask whether I really need drum pads, or can i just use the keys as drums, because you make it look so easy, but I don't know as a beginner, I need drum pads or not. Especially because I'm concerned about things like key travel, and actually how responsive the keys are with drum tracks, relative to drum pads.
asked similar questions... what do you think about it now?
Wow.... Now, that it works with Ableton! Yay
I can't integrate the NI plugins to ableton. I have followed alk steps in this vid. When ableton is running I can't use the plug-in knob so I can't browse the NI plugins. Can anyone help me with it? Thanx for answering!
Klaus Klaus I’m having the same issue. Did you find a fix?
@@badcompany3421 Hi! I'm having the same issue as well. Do you find any solution? Thanks!
@@victorgimenezesbri4582 You have to load Komplete Kontrol as a plugin into a track before you can use the browser features. This is to browse Komplete Kontrol, NOT Ableton's browser.
I’m still having this same problem
Download “Native Access” from Native instruments and update everything and it will work with Ableton , worked for me . Good luck
So I have just gotten into Live and I tried to hooking-up my Korg Microstudio to control live but its Janky asf... This means I am in the market for a new travel controller which ideally works with an Ipad (preferably bus powered).. Built in arp and chord modes are a must these days as they can kick off a track.... so far i am torn between the Novation keylab mini mk3, the NI M32, Akia MPK and the Behrringer Keystep clone.... There's a lot of choice out there!
Here is a short guide to get it to work. Make sure you have Ableton's latest update (10.0.5 or newer) Komplete control version 2.1.1 or later. Do follow the "NI setup guide" in the Description. Follow the copying files instruction for your OS (Mac users might need Mojave. Some other users said this resolved errors later on). once done copying files. Start your Komplete Kontrol and go to "Edit > Preferences > MIDI > Output" And check the Komplete Kontrol M DAW option. If you don't, it will NOT show up in Abelton. (Input might require the same, did not try.)
Then in Abelton, you need to add the track as a Komplete Kontrol and add the instrument within that, that's why it has no "Deep Integration". Don't ask me why I cant make music for shit.
Best of luck. Hope I helped someone in need. I'll probably make a video tomorrow after my rage meter has reset.......
I cannot get the Komplete Kontrol M DAW option
why doesn't it appear in komplete kontrol?
I have Ableton10.1 and even komplete control version 2.14
I've competed all the damn files and nothing
help T_T
Antonio Cortés you might need to copy it to both folders then do a restart.
Very insightful video, thank you!
I got my M32 last week...still struggling to have smooth experience. Hope this video helps me for that.
Pune, India
awesome video buddy!
hey man you linked to the ableton preference screen that you actually showed in the video instead of the files movement sollution
Thank you for your great video.
Boys, check your ableton and komplete kontrol version. It needs 10.0.6 and 2.1.1
The M32 is really good for the price
liked, subscribed...thx man, your content is exactly what I'm looking for.
Works!! Suscribed!
Amazing tips. Lots of learning here, such a dope session !
Great video, thanks for the tips!!
Very helpful and wel explained
I can't find "Komplete Kontrol DAW" on the MIDI Input. Please help.
Nice beat i also like alberton live and just bought m32 cant wait to start.
woooo!!
Thank you for this clip! It worked out well for me!
Thank you so much for posting this! Just got mine a couple days ago
Question... I have a NI M32 and have been able to do the link to Ableton Live 10 Standard DAW (BTW thanks for your insight) but I would also like to simultaneously sync in my NI Maschine Mikro MK3 in Ableton... preferably without blowing things up. I have an IMac 27” with an additional 40Gb RAM ... it should be doable but if you have any tips - it’d be helpful.
Thanks for your videos... and yes I’m subscribed, etc.... love the content and the clear way you present your material... as with Mad Zach... John Mike and Sanjay, you all are keeping it real... LOVE IT!
ALL the Continued VERY BEST!
Would really love to see if someone test M32 with Propellerhead Reason 10
I love it. Just got one.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge as always.
trying to workout whether to get this or arturia keystep. the keystep has got a built in step sequencer and arp which is sweet especially if youre using external hardware but this has encoders so i dunno :s
I have this and the keystep. Keystep is more useful external than internal, Internal that arp and sequencer are not perfectly timed somehow.
@@MelloState nice one!
The m32 works with serum sylenth1 and other plugins? Or just with komplete and kontakt? ✌️🙂
Arpegio super.
Nice hoodie and nice work
Sanjay C Did a video on how to set this up in Ableton, really helped me out ALOT.
Were can i get that merch you got on at?
Great, just great😃👍
I want to use komplete kontrol, the app that lets you browse with your midi controller by NI, I have a komplete m32 and komplete software, the 599 one, when I open ableton and select my midi controller, I only get the "komplete kontrol m32 midi", not the "daw" thingy, also once I check that in ableton's midi section I run into the problem that keeps me from hearing anything: when I open the komplete kontrol app, komplete kontrol M32 apears in the midi section, but I cannot check it as midi input, I can only check my usb audio interface. When I quit Ableton, I can check it. it's weird and no documentation on native instruments website helps with this
So you don't think pad is not needed ? Like LaunchKey Mini Mk3 has. I'd like to buy m32 as it has more keys, better keys, better sensitivity and no end knobs. What do you say about pads? @taetro
Does this work on Live 9 as well as Live 10?
I’m an old man, just can’t find whatever file path to integrate NI software to Ableton. I’ve pointed Ableton at every folder in NI downloads.... frustrating. Most of these videos assume your already at that point. Jeesh, I just want to play those sweet NI elec. piano sounds and record something dumb to everyone but me 😂😂
Keith Gurley did you fix this problem? I’m currently stuck with the same problem. The m32 controller will not switch to plugin mode when I press the key.
2.09: Note: Unless your controller has a built in sound generator, you won't ever need to activate Track on the output port of a MIDI controller. Only activate the switches that you require otherwise you can create MIDI feedback loops. [ ABLETON ]
m32 or akai mini for staters? m32 is really seducing me
M32 had a pitchbend mod wheel and transport control
And tons of software no brainier imo
if you're working with some form of hip hop, get the akai mini, since it has drum pads.
I’ve had the akai mini for four years, the keys are too small and the drum pads are trash. Get the M32.
I have both, and while I’m new to making music completely, I used to SERIOUSLY hate the M32 , because I had the exact same problem as @Taetro, but after seeing this “tutorial”, it makes a lot more sense to me! But I say if you have the funds get both, you never know what kind of magic you can create!
M32 is clockwork. I bought one after grabbing Komplete Start. I tried to use my Microfreak on midi but the Kontrol is wack with it. To have all that shish in perfect with the 32 is like having pieces of hardware.
Hey Taetro? I finally got my M32 to work fully with Ableton but now I noticed in Ableton that the whole plugin section is disabled. So now I can't use any NI sounds. I was wondering if you had that issue and had to adjust something to get the VST options to work in Ableton?
have you managed to solve it? It's just a crap ....
@@daniel6648 i did but I was just changing everything and turning on and off everything til I got it to work. And just never made changes again so it stood in place. It was so long ago but I do have it to where its supposed to be.
If anyone had an option for a komplete kontrol s61 with Logic Pro x? OR a push 2 with ableton live 10? What would YOU choose? Please help I’m really having a hard time choosing... (I play guitar so I’d be recording a lot of that too, I don’t know if that helps...:.:::..
push + ableton all the way
Thank you so much ! :))) If later on I add a keyboard, do you think that the s61 kk is the best option for a keyboard? Or are there others better for ableton?
It now COMES WITH Abelton Live now
yes good tutorial!
If it doesn’t appear Komplete Kontrol M DAW when you set it up what should I do to find it or make it to pop up in the midi settings? Can anyone help me?
Im having the same problem and its so frustrating I just want to get started. Did you figure it out?
any news?
Berk B yeah man I figured it out a while ago. If I remember correctly you just gotta update all the programs you installed and follow the instructions on Native Instrument’s website. Also there’s a video by a guy named Sanjay that you should check out to connect the controller to ableton. I don’t remember what I did exactly but if you keep trying you’ll get it
I´m having the same problem too.
Nice one!
thanks for your video, now I can use m32 und launchpad pro at the same time., cause for drums pads are better.
awesome!
Very helpful video. Thanks. I am also using KK32 to control external instruments (like a Behringer Model D for example). But for some reason I can't figure out how to employ the ARP feature to control external instruments in Ableton Live 10. I assume there is a way. Any suggestions? The KK seems to be stuck in Track mode. It will drive individual notes on the model D but I can't get ARP to engage to play arpeggios on the Model D.
It's a little fiddly, you need to send the MIDI to another track, see support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/209558189-Sending-and-Recording-MIDI-from-the-KOMPLETE-KONTROL-Plug-in-in-Ableton-Live
Thanks 🙏
Thanks Richard!
wait the NI website he linked to doesn't mention anything about copying/pasting files?
I managed to get it all working on ableton 10 on my old PC by editing a user remote scropt but it isn't working in ableton live 11?
Great video! How do you load up a drum kit to control with the keyboard? So like one key is a drum, another cymbal, etc?
Hey Taetro....can you show us how w can control Ableton Devices with NI Kontrol? That would be awesome.
Help please I can t find KOMPLETE KONTROL A I only have KOMPLETE KONTROL M32 Cqn you help me please ? play bouton didn t work
I have the same thing - are you using Ableton Live 9 or 10?
@@springboxlp1370 same here
Does the record button work with arrangement view or does it turn on record only for sesssion view? Can you choose and arm tracks with the joystick?
can i swich to the next 8 tracks to balance them when i am done with the first 8 track volumes in ableton with the arrow keys in track mode or DAW mode?
(i forgot the mode :D)
I'm really skeptical about the velocity curve of the keybed. Is it responsive to keypress???
Hello ! i don't understand why the keys give no midi signal... no sound... while with my Korg padKontrol i have si midi signal and the sound ! I have the "daw" control (volume, buttons) only ! strange... someone can help me ? Thank you !
How do you get the blue hand to work with mk32
As long as we can't control Ableton devices (selected with blue hand) then this is no real integration. On a scale 1-10 of how well it is integrated this gets 3.
For a good integration for cheap take a look at Behringer x-touch mini. What we have with M32 (transport control) can be replaced with learning a few keyboard shortcuts.
WTF is blue hand? We crippin up in here?
i was on the impression that, at least, the bigger S49/61 controllers let one integrate with ABleton devices.. but .. now i'm actually wondering if i am confusing that with the new Novation mk3 keyboards..
Do you confirm the lack of integration ?
Thanks. ;)
I have a komplete kontrol m32 but in Preferences link MIDI don't appear the option komplete kontrol m daw. Someone knows why? I read other persons with the same questions in the web, but not the solution. Help.
Helpful video, thanks!
What drums do you use?
Open ableton, then open komplete kontrol, then open reaktor, then open Molekular. Right?
I've been re-mastering some song in Ableton Live that used some Komplete Kontrol instruments for various tracks. I was surprised to see that Ableton doesn't save the specific patch of an instrument from one edit session to the next. For example, If I first selected the "2am" patch from Massive for a song, then I close Ableton Live and reopen the project that used that patch, it only knows that I used Massive for that track, but not the specific "2am" patch. Is there something that I'm not saving when I close a project? If this is the way it normally works, then I guess a workaround is for me to name the track with the instrument AND THE PATCH NAME.
Is there a way to Transpose the keys in Semitones from the keyboard itself without having to go in the daw/editor?
Im having the same issue, in Template 1 Midi mode. Windows 10. Everything is up to date. What files did you move and from where and to where?
Thank you.
Im usind Cakewalk
Hey nice video and review!!! Just wanna know do Arp and scale functionalities work for native Live instruments and devices as well? I have been thinking about buying this fantastic keyboard but want to make sure of everything before the purchase. Any comment would be super helpful, thanks a lot! :)
Hey bro , I have a problem , I don't have Komplete Kontrol M daw to select it
Can I do this if I just own the Intro version of ableton live?
Hey Taetro, just wondering. Which is ur favorite now between KOMPLETE KONTROL M32 and NOVATION LAUNCHKEY MINI MK3??
Launchkey because of the Ableton workflow
Komplete Kontrol is great, unfortunately this DAW template does not directly allow the Macro Controls of live on the M32 knobs.
Thanks for the video, but I really can't get how you managed it to work properly. As I launch Ableton "Plug-In" and "Browse" button stay darkened, so it's no way to change it. The second thing is that the sound from Komplete app wouldn't record in Ableton whatever input/output settings I choose (it identifies the keys I'm pressing, but in effect nothing really recording)
Scale and Arp doesn't light up. I can't use the function. Any ideas?
I don't know what did apple changed with big sur or what native changed but these fucntions wont work for me
What about using the ableton instruments/effects? Do the cursor buttons select tracks effects scenes etc?
Looks like the M32 wobbles on your desk every time you put significant pressure one the sides. Is it not balanced properly or was it just not laying flat on your desk?
I have it propped up for a better view from the front cam - it's as sturdy as all the other controllers
plug in mode doesnt do anything on my m32 for controling plugins. the knobs only control the volume
Does E32 doing well with Nuendo 10.3 OR Cubase10.5 ? Thanks
is it possible to change fixed velocity value? default value is 127 i think but i want it to change 100
the_oneselve up
Can the track volume knobs be adjusted to real, usable values? That's aLOT of goddamn twisting!
Yes, they are infinity knobs.
I am in doubt between the arturia minilab mk2 and the komplete kontrol M32. Would you help me?