The l1 pro 8 has the benefit of having the tone match and the bass on the l1 pro 8 can be adjusted at the eq so yes you can control the highs and low individually.
Would you please make a video or direct me on exactly how you set this up? All the wiring and how they are connected? I have the same setup except for the Microstation. Thank you!
Can you please make a video of the back of this system that would give a good look at the how the whole system is set up? I had everything except the PreSonus when I saw this video. I purchased the PreSonus but can't seem to get the connections right. Thanks fo any help anyone can give. It is greatly appreciated.
The new S1Pro+ (not available when this video was made) has a “Sub EQ” out setting. So now instead of having to run through SUB1 first you can run Bluetooth through the S1Pro+ and run a single XLR cable from the S1Pro l+ to Sub1.
Thanks, I didn't know that! Technology marches on. The best part is Bose added all these features and kept the price the same as when I bought my S1 5 years ago!
Love your videos, I’m a musician that’s always looking for the most quality in small rigs. Wondering if you had any input on the Yamaha stage pass 200. I’ve been using the Bose L1 pro plus and personally I think it lacks a little more punch. I’ve been using it as a monitor, and I feel that this Yamaha might be the answer. Wondering if you had any input on this at all thanks again for the videos.
My current set up is the RCF515 top and Bose 2 sub for the larger ones. Also pair 2 QSC k8, just depending on the set up. For my small rigs, I usually use my Fishman performer with a QSC.
Glad you enjoy the channel. I've never heard the Yasmaha 200. Specs look good but the deal breaker for me is the fact that it doesn't have a user replaceable battery. Has got almost zero feedback on the Acoustic Guitar Forum. I don't know why? My favorite in this category is the EV Everse 8. Definitely more punch/clarity then the Bose Plus.
The downside of the dual Pro 8's is weight / bulk and limited flexibility. Also, while the subs are the same size - they are only 240 watts each versus the 480 watts of the Sub 1. The dual S1 Pro / Sub 1 system can be much more flexible with the ability to use each S1 independently - not to mention the battery power... I'm still sold on two S1 pros with a Sub 1 as the ultimate micro system available. Nice video as always! Very informative!!
One more thing - two S1 pros support stereo bluetooth... The L1 systems don't (Bose really needs to fix this issue IMHO)... I do like your Presonus solution for a number of reasons, but you can also plug a single battery powered bluetooth receiver directly into the stereo inputs on the Sub 1 and use two XLR cables (one for each S1). I'm using FIIO BTR5 with the XLR adapter. On Stage BC2000 also works well. The downside is the lack of easy tactile control via the Presonus unit. Upside - fewer cables, cleaner setup.
I am about to make my Micro system. I'm going to have two S1 Pros along with a Rockville RBG10 Subwoofer. It weighs 37 lbs so almost the same weight as the Bose Sub 1. It only cost $179.99 on eBay or Amazon. I would love to go with the Sub 1, I just feel spending $900+ on a Sub for a micro system that I would only use on maybe 1 or 2 small gigs a year is steep. No doubt the high fidelity and clean sound in the lows out of a Sub1 is going to Amazing, but I have a feeling this Sub I am looking at will get the same jobs done just fine.
Depends? Sub1 will have much better bass with separate gain control for bass, but Pro8 will be louder with better 180 degree dispersion. Pro8 smoother Hifi midrange, S1Pro cleaner high end. Pro8 has new App with better EQ. Comes down to your application and personal taste in sound signature?
Bill, thanks for the video, very informative. I just have one question, how long does your power station last powering the Bose Sub1? I think the Bose S1 has an 8 hour run time depending on the volume.
Since making that video I have upgraded to the Ecoflow Pro. On two separate occasions the Sub1 shut down at high volumes using the 400 watt Expert power. Ecoflow rated at 720wH but figure 80% efficiency so that puts you at 576wH. 576wH divided by 194 max watts= 3 hours. 194 watts was the watts pulled at max volume before clipping. If you play at normal volumes say 90dB or less it will pull much less watts, maybe 60-85 watts which would =7 to 10 hours. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08T1KY8SG/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_6?smid=AH59O987TZWZR&psc=1
How can I connect my Bose sub 1 to my bose s1 pro without a mixer? My sub 1 will be arriving in the mail soon but I'm not sure what cable I need to buy. Thanks!
Cable connection: All you need is one cable. From the line out of the S1Pro into a Channel input of sub. Make sure the cable is TRS 1/4" to TRS 1/4" or 1/4" TRS to XLR male. I like the XLR cable better because it has a more secure connection. If you plan on putting the sub between the two speakers, get a 10-15 foot cable. www.amazon.com/Tisino-Balanced-Signal-Interconnect-Quarter/dp/B07L8BM15Z/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=6LNM3MX68QLB&keywords=1%2F4%2Btrs%2Bto%2Bxlr%2Bmale&qid=1682697060&sprefix=1%2F4%2Btyrs%2Bto%2Bxlr%2Bmale%2Caps%2C156&sr=8-2-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyS1JYUThIRElFMDYmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTAzMDQ5ODEzODcwVFNVMTU4Rk9QJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0MTU1MDYzS0NLVEFHU0dQUEhJJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1
When you say “line out of the s1 pro” are you specifically referring to the port labeled “line out” on the s1 pro? It may seem obvious but someone else told me to plug it into one of the inputs on the s1 pro and not the “line out” port.
@@jamest4189 There's two ways of doing this: Your friend is talking about going from a mixer into the sub, then into the input of the S1Pro. This way will give you more max volume and cleaner/less distortion at max. One problem- you will lose Bluetooth and will not be able to connect the two speakers wirelessly. To tell you the truth I don't hear much difference and I think the S1Pros at 100dB are plenty loud through Bluetooth. Yes, go out from the line out of the S1Pro into the sub if you want to retain Bluetooth.
If you are not using the Bluetooth controller the set up is simple: TRS 1/4" to TRS 1/4" balanced cable. From S1Pro line out to Sub1 input. I wouldn't recommend the Bluetooth Controller which adds complexity and adds little if anything to the sound. I demonstrated that in the video as an experiment that works but would not recommend.
I have 1x Sub1 and 2x S1 Pro. I would like to know specifically what frequencies the bass plays at if I have LINE IN EQ set to LPF???, because I understand that on L1 it plays from 40 to 150Hz??? And I want to know exactly what frequencies the LINE OUT EQ sends a signal at if I turn on the HPF in white, and at what frequency if I hold down 4s and turn on the HPF in green??? (green, I guess from 150Hz up, but how much exactly at HPF in white???
After many attempts to set up the Bose equipment, I must admit that I am satisfied. First of all, you cannot increase the volume on the speakers too much if you use an external mixer - the bass setting at 1 p.m. is quite sufficient for two Bose S1 Pro. For me the best setting is LINE IN EQ to LPF, and line out EQ to HPF (white). I don't like setting HPF to green, what about you?
I really love your videos on the use of either EV ELX200 and the sub 1 as I have S1 pro and planning to upgrade. Just asking how will you set up the system when using mics on subs as my plan to upgrade is due to low volume on mic for S1 pro. Any suggestions?
Thanks, glad you like the videos. Sorry I have never added mics to a sub. Good question for the Bose Facebook Forum. Adding a mixer should give you the missing gain you are lacking from the S1Pro but of course that defeats the purpose of a portable rig like the S1.
Waste of money and power for 95% of S1Pro users. To blend properly Sub2 has to be turned down to 9:30, wasted gain/headroom. S1Pros clip red at 100dB/Sub2 130db, power that can't be used. The other 5% who could use it: Sub2 goes down to 37Hz so sounds great playing DJ backing tracks with super lows Rap/House. Live percussion/drums/bass guitar also sound noticeably better with that power and low end kick. Also any kind of outdoor gig I would go with the Sub2.
@@sonny9546 Now you're talking! iP300s are in a different league than S1Pros and have the power to match the Sub2. If you are looking at the iP300, you should also consider the new JBL EON710 or 712. Same power, price range and sound signature of the Turbosound but it uses the same App as your PRX Ones. Working on the video soon.
Sub1 has much more bass than the Pro8. Sub1 goes down lower to 40Hz, Pro8 45Hz. Sub1 will play louder up to 123dB, Pro8 118dB Pro8 will play cleaner on the high end and has the great App to adjust from a distance. Pro8 will play much louder up to 118dB compared to the S1s 103dB. That's a huge difference! Depends on your needs. Best case get a Pro8 and add a Sub1 in the future if you need more bass.
Does anyone know if its possible to make a subwoofer using Bose Sub1 into the TX312 ALTO PA speaker...just wanted to get an insight for those who are familiar with this...Thanks
Hi, I like your setup. Can you show me more details of the connection 2 x s1 pro + sub1 and PreSonus MicroStation BT ? hope can also help with what cables do I need to get as well, please.
Two Bose S1Pros can be connected by Bluetooth in stereo. The only reason I was using the PreSonus was to mute the subwoofer for the video. A better solution for the same price of the Sub1 is the EV ELX200-12sp. That sub has Bluetooth control so you can save money and not buy the PreSonus. Have you seen this video? th-cam.com/video/xY_bw2Adn6c/w-d-xo.html If you already have the Sub1 let me know and I'll go over the connections.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thank you so much for your reply Wesiss. I bought a pair of L1 Pro8 but it does not connect stereo mode as S1 pro you have. I am mainly used for music streaming and Karaoke. After watching your setup then I thought to return the L1 Pro8 and get the two S1 Pro plus a Sub1. I like its stereo and use Bluetooth for streaming music from my phone. Your setup is exactly what need. Should I keep two L1 pro8 or return get two S1 pro and a Sub1 ? which system is better? Once again thank you so much for your help Weiss
@@tonynguyen4391 Two Pro8s should be great! For the price of two S1Pros with a Sub1, I would rather get a Pro32/Sub1. You can always add a Sub2 in the future if you play bass heavy music. One Pro32 will fill the largest indoor space. I don't think you will miss the stereo. Have you seen this video? th-cam.com/video/MdFuVjhYoMc/w-d-xo.html
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Once again thank you so much. If you think the L1 pro is a much better option, I will keep the L1 Pro8. Can you please show me how to get 2 L1 Pro8 in stereo mode? I refer 2 Pro8 or 2 Pr16 as a much better look. Thank you for your help Weiss. I like your review very much
@@tonynguyen4391 For stereo you need a mixer. I use a small Yamaha MG06X. Using XLR cables left out from mixer into Ch1 of first Pro8. Right out from mixer to CH1 of second Pro8. If you want the very best XLR cables buy Mogami. 15 feet on each side is probably best -Iwww.amazon.com/Mogami-GOLD-STUDIO-10-Microphone-XLR-Female/dp/B00JHHZ1UQ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=NN68O6L816UU&dchild=1&keywords=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables&qid=1634260879&sprefix=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-6&th=1 This is what I use:www.amazon.com/LyxPro-4-Conductor-Balanced-Microphone-Quality/dp/B00KWINB5Q/ref=sr_1_31?crid=NN68O6L816UU&dchild=1&keywords=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables&qid=1634260963&sprefix=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-31&th=1
I have never tested them side by side, but I am almost positive they will come nowhere near the performance of a dedicated live sound subwoofer like the Bose Sub1. Through confirmed tests the Sub1 can go down to 40Hz at 123dB! I personally tested the Sub1 over 100db with perfect clarity and zero clipping. JBL 1000 would be close if you can handle the 76Lbs weight!
Hi Bill, Thanks for your great reviews. I have 2-s1pros and Sub1. What would be the best way to hook all three together using a hardwire configuration and what would be the best settings for the speakers. I am using it for an electronic keyboard. Thank You.
Yes I do. Sub1 is next level. I like to tell people the Sub1 is the lightest/smallest REAL subwoofer. Fishman adds very nice low mids and Hifi like bass. On the other hand a REAL subwoofer hits you in the chest! The Fishman doesn't do that. Fishman does go down to 30Hz vs 40Hz of the Bose, which would reproduce recorded Hifi tracks better at lower volumes. Bose Sub1 max 124dB vs Fishman 113dB. 11 dB difference is huge! Think of the Fishman like a very good Hifi floor standing speaker with solid bass. Add a dedicated subwoofer to those towers makes a night and day difference!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz 100% Bill 👍 But you really spoiled me with the Fishman I still love the total lightweight set up it has but ! Yeah the Bose Sub1 would really change to another level ! It’s sad that Fishman discontinued the 330 sub 😔 so good for what you’re getting ! Thanks Much
Great video. This is the system I have but I put both s1pros on the sub 1. I used a yamaha mixer and have done a couple of dj gigs and the people couldn't stop talking about how much sound came from this unit. One of the gigs was a small bowling alley for a end of the year bash and they ask if I would be available for their military ball. And yes One of the events was out doors for a polar plug and there was about 150 people and I passed out my number a few times for new business. So it is very impressive. My mixer and laptop was mounted on the pole also on the trays that clamp on. Maybe I can put together a video so you can see the setup. Thank you again for the content it has helped me a lot.
Thanks for the compliment and thanks for the info. Now I can share with others that this setup can handle upwards of 150 people! Of course using a mixer gives extra headroom. What do you mean you put both S1Pros on the Sub1? Would love to see that video if you make it.
I use a Rockville GASPOLE-B M20 Threaded Air Assist Subwoofer-Speaker Pole Mount Stand On-Stage SS7920 Dual Mount Speaker Bracket And the clamp on for laptop and mixer. Friend me on Facebook Phillip Shane Berckman or email me shaneberckman @ gmail
@@shaneberckman How do you mount the mixer on the pole? Having the two S1s on the On Stage Mount so close together causes some frequency cancelations, worse stereo imaging and must defeat some of the excellent 180 degree dispersion the S1 is capable of. Any reason you can't put the second S1 on a stand and separate them?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz it sounds great just keeping the system small as possible. I was a little worried about that at first but it sounded so good and got a lot of attention so I am probably going to get a second setup for bigger events. I have some Alto ts308s and a Altos 312sub i run the same setup. I put the two systems beside each other and ran them through the same mixer I couldn't turn it up 1/4 of the way and they had me leave it there because any more was to loud. I was really surprised how well it actually worked.
I have used separate stands but I bought short cables to keep the smaller footprint neet. I even got power cables that y and goes to a piggyback power cable on the sub to only use one power outlet. On my battery pack our outlet.
Adding a second S1 Pro will give you 3dB more max output. Having a left/right speaker 10-15 feet apart gives the stereo field no single speaker can accomplish. The Sub1 is a REAL subwoofer that kicks hard! It will add the missing lows and improve the midrange. Adding the Sub1 turns the very good S1Pro into an excellent full range almost Hi-fi performance! Plus you can high pass the S1Pro to play louder. Not sure if it would be 3dB gain? My choice: S1Pro over Sub1!
Thank you for the response! Well I did make the purchase, but seems like GC has them back ordered! I may consider the EV given all the provided options and specs you mentioned. Thank you Sr!
Yamaha does have the big advantage of having the best 7 year warranty. EV probably has your standard 3 years. As a gigging musician it might come in handy?
Yes and No Yes if you don't mind the very large difference in size, weight, and money. If you are a musician who plays bass or drums through the Sub2 the extra lows 37Hz of the Sub2 is very noticeable. Also if you are playing back heavy bass EDM/Hip hop type tracks. Have you seen this video? th-cam.com/video/gldnIZV7hjA/w-d-xo.html One plus I have found, if you want to run either on external power, the Sub2 doesn't require more power. I run both easily on a 600 watt Ecoflow Pro. On the other hand even with my Pro32 I never play the Sub2 over 11:00 because anything higher starts to overpower and muddy up the column. I do like to have that extra power in reserve for future larger gigs - especially outside!
Thank you sir for your feedback 🙏 I'm not a musician but I like to enjoy my music in a good sound system I watched all your videos already and I bought my self 2 s1pro and the sub2 and the Microstation bt
I use two Bose S1’s on a dual mount yoke on a single, crank-up speaker tripod along with a single Bose Sub1. I use an external mixer, obviously for more inputs and better EQ control. While this system I have is definitely more money (approx $2k) I believe it’s way more power, greater dispersion and clarity, and more flexibility than any single column array I’ve reviewed. My entire rig including all necessary cables, stands, tip jar, mixer, and accessories fit on one cart for easy load in/out. I’ve never ran out of “gas” with this system in the medium sized venues I gig at. It’s loud and more importantly, clear and highly intelligible to the entire audience. While the JBL MkII is totally portable with full battery operation, I can add a portable Jackman AC power pack to power my sub and all accessories for over 10 hours. As much as I like the idea of an “all-in-one” solution, I really haven’t heard such a system out-perform my rig.
How many watts do you run the Sub1 on external power? Probably too late now that you spent $2k a HUGE step up from your rig is the BosePro32/Sub1in power, throw, and overall sound quality - highs and mids. Of course more $$$. Your system is excellent and would be my second choice. Putting your S1s on speaker stands about 10 feet apart would improve your sound.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Being a sound engineer for 25+ years, the best way to cover a typical bar area is a point source. When you divide a PA to two separate points it creates holes. You sacrifice the sound in the center unless you’re far enough from the audience (not practical in most bars) and the two separate L/R rig creates weird comb filtering depending on the audience seating position. If you get a point source high and behind you you achieve a better alignment as well as a built in (post) monitor (you’re aware of your volume) and you eliminate “hot spots” to the left and right. Obviously, in larger and wider venues my rig wouldn’t be as effective. What I do in those scenarios is to build a center Bose F1 behind me (over my head) with a single sub and then matrix (with delay) a L/R rig with two S1’s on poles over two powered subs. I attach band lights to those (dual purpose) and the L/R is shaded appropriately to not overpower close seating. Cheers!
Hoping for recommendations from experience with this and other similar speakers…I am looking for a solid active dj speaker to be used in 2 primary ways: First, as a monitor speaker while doing live gigs (I use 1-2 QSC KW122’s as my mains), as well as using it as a home “studio” monitor while practicing and preparing for gigs at home (currently I use one of my KW122’s as my monitor speaker at home)… Next usage would be just for mobile purposes where I won’t be djing, just playing my mixes off my phone connecting via Bluetooth…Back yard BBQ’s, Pool Parties, Boat, Beach etc…All outdoors, typically under 40 people. And to do that all without the hassle of bringing my mixdeck, MacBook and the much heavier KW122’s…well that’s what I’m looking for. My main boxes to be checked are: -Small and light, easy to lug around and easy to store…Quality made and can handle the wear and tear from mobile usage over time… -Battery Life…I won’t typically do gigs over 5 hours unless it’s big $$$…So I doubt I will ever need to worry about battery life as long as it’s over 8 hours, reliably of course…I’m also assuming that I can plug the speaker into an outlet and it will charge the battery also while playing music on it? When you play it plugged in, does it also charge the battery? Bluetooth Functionality and Durability…while doing live gigs I will have it hardwired to the mixdeck, but for all other applications, I would prefer to be using the Bluetooth Function and just let the mixes roll right from my phone while I get to chill finally… -Obviously sound quality is the most important feature of any speaker. I primarily play Deep House Remixed/Hip Hip old and new, reggae-ton and Old School Legendary Miami Booty Music (Uncle Luke, Uncle Al etc)…I’m from Miami so they’re legendary to me anyway 😂🙌…All that should be fine for when I play it via Bluetooth to my phone with this speaker… Questions regarding Live Gigs: Is there any delay from your main speaker to this one when using this as a monitor speaker? Would I run an XLR from my mixdeck to my main PA, then run either an XLR or RCA cable from my main PA to this Bose speaker? Or would I go mixdeck to Bose speaker (monitor use only), then from Bose speaker to KW122 mains via XLR? Thank you, I appreciate any solid Intel…sorry for the book 😂
I have one QSC KW122 over a QSC K Sub as my mobile electronic drum amplification. Love it! In a word Bose S1 Pro. Many pros use it as a monitor. Can't beat the portability- 15lbs, great Bluetooth, and battery. If you want more power Mackie Thump Go is almost 2x louder but very lean without a subwoofer. Bose S1 Pro is smoother, more Hifi but will clip sooner. Not sure of Mackie reliability because it just came out, while S1Pro has a great record and support from Bose. None of these small battery/Bluetooth speakers will make you happy with Booty Music! Add the smallest sub and you will realize what you are missing. If you want everything including bass spend $1,200 for the new JBL MK2, then you will be happy! th-cam.com/video/AqCn-3cFfiE/w-d-xo.html
Again I haven't personally gigged with this setup. After reading more peoples' posts I would say a pair of S1Pros with a Sub1 would be good for 75 people, max 100. A single larger column array like the Pro 16 is good for 150 people.
Hi Bill! Love your videos. I currently have a pair of Bose L1 Compacts and a Fishman SA Sub that I run in stereo (outboard mixer > Fishman SA Sub > L1 Compacts). I think this combo sounds great as the Fishman really rounds out the bottom end of the Compacts. But after watching your videos and reading comments here and elsewhere, I'm curious about the Bose Sub1. I believe you used to own this same Fishman sub, but now that you have the Bose Sub1, is the Bose that much better? In addition to more power, I'm thinking there might be more synergy by staying all Bose? Especially if the Sub1 crossover blends better with the L1 Compacts, as with the Fishman I'm always wondering what sounds best (80hz? 100hz? 125hz?). If you can let me know your thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
Thanks for the compliment. I still have the Fishman Sub. Lightest sub I have found. Bose Sub1 is a REAL subwoofer it kicks you in the chest. In comparison Fishman is just like you said filling in low end and kind of muddy bass. At least two Fishman's = one Sub1. Get it!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I use a Bluetooth XLR dongle made by On Stage. They have some inexpensive ones, and there are ones that are up in the price range of $200.
Hello, Can anyone tell me what cables to use and where to input and output them to make this work. I have the exact same set up but do not know where all the connections go. Thanks!
Yes but not much. Maybe a couple of dBs???People report more gain with microphones with a mixer + S1Pro. To me I prefer a clean cable free Bluetooth S1Pro over a mixer set up.
Bill, great videos thanks for the in-depth reviews! Question for you: do you know of any system that would allow you to hook up the audio source (pioneer controller) directly to the s1, via Bluetooth? It seems all the systems I see are adding Bluetooth functionality to the speakers BUT the S1 already has Bluetooth built in so why not take advantage of that? It would be great to be able to wirelessly send the output of a mixer to the s1 via Bluetooth at a ceremony etc Thanks!
Thanks for the compliment. I plug a Bluetooth module into my mixer. Of course you have a cable run to the speaker. I don't know if that answers your question?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz half of it haha. You answered the part that I knew already :) Question is: can you also go Bluetooth from the mixer to the S1 (without plugging an additional Bluetooth receiver into the S1). Is there a Bluetooth XLR transmitter that you could plug at the back of your mixer (presumably two transmitters: one for each L + R channel) and would then be "bluetoothed" into each of the L + R S1's?
I just read someone posted, Sub1 at 110dB = 2hours run time on external battery. For every 10dB increase you lose one hour of battery capacity. So at 100db = 3hours, 90db = 4hours, 80db = 5hours
I really like the configuration presented in this video, I could do without bluetooth, I would like to be able to connect my cell phone to the sub 1 and from the sub1 to the 2 s1 pro, can you? And what cables do I need for this, thanks for your answer.
@@manuelgomez5621 You would need to run cell phone into a mixer first. From mixer out to Sub1. Sub1 out to S1Pros. Make sure to use 1/4" TRS cable. You will not be able to connect S1s wirelessly. This is the way Bose recommends to get the best clarity and best headroom from the S1Pros.
My goal for a micro system is one top ,a pole, and a subwoofer, run off Bluetooth with as few cables as possible. I have a 16 channel mixer, RCF TT tops and 20 foot runs of XLR cable. In a live situation in front of an audience I do not depend on Bluetooth. Yes, in that situation I agree with you, I want the best sound and the most headroom possible. You might have missed it but I said this micro system is for my personal mobile rig I take to parks or small gigs. Personally I don't hear any loss of quality when I use Bluetooth. If your ears can tell the difference - More power to you! Thanks for your feedback.
Great video, thanks for pointing out the specs differences between the Sub 1 and the Pro 8 I would have never noticed that, you helped me make my decision, definitely a Sub 1.
Why not, you have a sub out. Will take your system to the next level adding full range sound. Have you seen this video? EV ELX-200-12sp $100 less, more powerful, Bluetooth App, but heavier at 42lbs vs 35.5lbs for the Sub1. th-cam.com/video/9BzibhD9Ghg/w-d-xo.html
The l1 pro 8 has the benefit of having the tone match and the bass on the l1 pro 8 can be adjusted at the eq so yes you can control the highs and low individually.
Would you please make a video or direct me on exactly how you set this up? All the wiring and how they are connected? I have the same setup except for the Microstation. Thank you!
Excellent. I’m surprised of the clarity this combination exhibits. Lots of great information. Thank you so much.
Can you please make a video of the back of this system that would give a good look at the how the whole system is set up? I had everything except the PreSonus when I saw this video. I purchased the PreSonus but can't seem to get the connections right. Thanks fo any help anyone can give. It is greatly appreciated.
The new S1Pro+ (not available when this video was made) has a “Sub EQ” out setting. So now instead of having to run through SUB1 first you can run Bluetooth through the S1Pro+ and run a single XLR cable from the S1Pro l+ to Sub1.
Thanks, I didn't know that! Technology marches on. The best part is Bose added all these features and kept the price the same as when I bought my S1 5 years ago!
Love your videos, I’m a musician that’s always looking for the most quality in small rigs. Wondering if you had any input on the Yamaha stage pass 200. I’ve been using the Bose L1 pro plus and personally I think it lacks a little more punch. I’ve been using it as a monitor, and I feel that this Yamaha might be the answer. Wondering if you had any input on this at all thanks again for the videos.
My current set up is the RCF515 top and Bose 2 sub for the larger ones. Also pair 2 QSC k8, just depending on the set up. For my small rigs, I usually use my Fishman performer with a QSC.
Glad you enjoy the channel. I've never heard the Yasmaha 200. Specs look good but the deal breaker for me is the fact that it doesn't have a user replaceable battery. Has got almost zero feedback on the Acoustic Guitar Forum. I don't know why? My favorite in this category is the EV Everse 8. Definitely more punch/clarity then the Bose Plus.
The downside of the dual Pro 8's is weight / bulk and limited flexibility. Also, while the subs are the same size - they are only 240 watts each versus the 480 watts of the Sub 1. The dual S1 Pro / Sub 1 system can be much more flexible with the ability to use each S1 independently - not to mention the battery power... I'm still sold on two S1 pros with a Sub 1 as the ultimate micro system available. Nice video as always! Very informative!!
One more thing - two S1 pros support stereo bluetooth... The L1 systems don't (Bose really needs to fix this issue IMHO)... I do like your Presonus solution for a number of reasons, but you can also plug a single battery powered bluetooth receiver directly into the stereo inputs on the Sub 1 and use two XLR cables (one for each S1). I'm using FIIO BTR5 with the XLR adapter. On Stage BC2000 also works well. The downside is the lack of easy tactile control via the Presonus unit. Upside - fewer cables, cleaner setup.
Have to agree with you, A pair of S1Pros/Sub1 is the way to go!
Is the s1 sub have a battery like the s1 pro ?
@@capitolraceworks No, but you can get yourself a something like a 400-500w “battery powered generator” and got full wireless.
I am about to make my Micro system. I'm going to have two S1 Pros along with a Rockville RBG10 Subwoofer. It weighs 37 lbs so almost the same weight as the Bose Sub 1. It only cost $179.99 on eBay or Amazon. I would love to go with the Sub 1, I just feel spending $900+ on a Sub for a micro system that I would only use on maybe 1 or 2 small gigs a year is steep. No doubt the high fidelity and clean sound in the lows out of a Sub1 is going to Amazing, but I have a feeling this Sub I am looking at will get the same jobs done just fine.
hi bill, do you think it has better sound than the L1pro8?
Depends? Sub1 will have much better bass with separate gain control for bass, but Pro8 will be louder with better 180 degree dispersion. Pro8 smoother Hifi midrange, S1Pro cleaner high end. Pro8 has new App with better EQ. Comes down to your application and personal taste in sound signature?
Bill, thanks for the video, very informative. I just have one question, how long does your power station last powering the Bose Sub1? I think the Bose S1 has an 8 hour run time depending on the volume.
Since making that video I have upgraded to the Ecoflow Pro. On two separate occasions the Sub1 shut down at high volumes using the 400 watt Expert power. Ecoflow rated at 720wH but figure 80% efficiency so that puts you at 576wH. 576wH divided by 194 max watts= 3 hours. 194 watts was the watts pulled at max volume before clipping. If you play at normal volumes say 90dB or less it will pull much less watts, maybe 60-85 watts which would =7 to 10 hours.
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@@WWeiss-nv5vz Great!! Thanks for the info.
Can u just connect S1 pro output to sub1 input and use Bluetooth steaming of S1 pro to avoid unnecessary wires
Yes that's the way I do it! Make sure to use a 1/4" TRS cable from the S1Pro output.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz have you noticed any loss of bass in the s1 pro to sub1 setup.
How can I connect my Bose sub 1 to my bose s1 pro without a mixer? My sub 1 will be arriving in the mail soon but I'm not sure what cable I need to buy. Thanks!
Cable connection:
All you need is one cable. From the line out of the S1Pro into a Channel input of sub. Make sure the cable is TRS 1/4" to TRS 1/4" or 1/4" TRS to XLR male. I like the XLR cable better because it has a more secure connection. If you plan on putting the sub between the two speakers, get a 10-15 foot cable.
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@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks! 🙏 This answer is perfect! Im going to buy it now!
When you say “line out of the s1 pro” are you specifically referring to the port labeled “line out” on the s1 pro? It may seem obvious but someone else told me to plug it into one of the inputs on the s1 pro and not the “line out” port.
@@jamest4189 There's two ways of doing this: Your friend is talking about going from a mixer into the sub, then into the input of the S1Pro. This way will give you more max volume and cleaner/less distortion at max. One problem- you will lose Bluetooth and will not be able to connect the two speakers wirelessly. To tell you the truth I don't hear much difference and I think the S1Pros at 100dB are plenty loud through Bluetooth. Yes, go out from the line out of the S1Pro into the sub if you want to retain Bluetooth.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks! This cleared it up for me! My sub 1 gets here in a few hours.. i cant wait!
Thank you posting. Are you able to draw post diagram (picture) in the video of the compete setup with cable allocation (in/out)?
If you are not using the Bluetooth controller the set up is simple: TRS 1/4" to TRS 1/4" balanced cable. From S1Pro line out to Sub1 input. I wouldn't recommend the Bluetooth Controller which adds complexity and adds little if anything to the sound. I demonstrated that in the video as an experiment that works but would not recommend.
Ur video is great sir 👌👌👌
Thank you!
Do you think the sub1 with the bose l1 compact would be good? Throwing a party in my pole barn
Great combination, it takes the Compact to a whole new level! Check out this video: th-cam.com/video/VGL50QQ3jNA/w-d-xo.html
I have 1x Sub1 and 2x S1 Pro.
I would like to know specifically what frequencies the bass plays at if I have LINE IN EQ set to LPF???, because I understand that on L1 it plays from 40 to 150Hz???
And I want to know exactly what frequencies the LINE OUT EQ sends a signal at if I turn on the HPF in white, and at what frequency if I hold down 4s and turn on the HPF in green??? (green, I guess from 150Hz up, but how much exactly at HPF in white???
After many attempts to set up the Bose equipment, I must admit that I am satisfied. First of all, you cannot increase the volume on the speakers too much if you use an external mixer - the bass setting at 1 p.m. is quite sufficient for two Bose S1 Pro. For me the best setting is LINE IN EQ to LPF, and line out EQ to HPF (white). I don't like setting HPF to green, what about you?
I really love your videos on the use of either EV ELX200 and the sub 1 as I have S1 pro and planning to upgrade. Just asking how will you set up the system when using mics on subs as my plan to upgrade is due to low volume on mic for S1 pro. Any suggestions?
Thanks, glad you like the videos. Sorry I have never added mics to a sub. Good question for the Bose Facebook Forum. Adding a mixer should give you the missing gain you are lacking from the S1Pro but of course that defeats the purpose of a portable rig like the S1.
Can I use an XLR TO XLR cable with the s1pro + to the sub 1?
Yes! Previous S1 Pro had 1/4" TRS out, now the plus has XLR out!
Thanks !
do you think a sub 2 with two S1's would be overkill?
Waste of money and power for 95% of S1Pro users. To blend properly Sub2 has to be turned down to 9:30, wasted gain/headroom. S1Pros clip red at 100dB/Sub2 130db, power that can't be used.
The other 5% who could use it: Sub2 goes down to 37Hz so sounds great playing DJ backing tracks with super lows Rap/House.
Live percussion/drums/bass guitar also sound noticeably better with that power and low end kick. Also any kind of outdoor gig I would go with the Sub2.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Ok so two turbosound ip 300 would be more suitable for sub 2
@@sonny9546 Now you're talking! iP300s are in a different league than S1Pros and have the power to match the Sub2. If you are looking at the iP300, you should also consider the new JBL EON710 or 712. Same power, price range and sound signature of the Turbosound but it uses the same App as your PRX Ones. Working on the video soon.
Sub 1 more bass than L1 pro 8?
Which sounds louder: l1 pro 8 or 1 s1 pro with sun 1? 🙏🏼
Sub1 has much more bass than the Pro8. Sub1 goes down lower to 40Hz, Pro8 45Hz. Sub1 will play louder up to 123dB, Pro8 118dB Pro8 will play cleaner on the high end and has the great App to adjust from a distance. Pro8 will play much louder up to 118dB compared to the S1s 103dB. That's a huge difference! Depends on your needs. Best case get a Pro8 and add a Sub1 in the future if you need more bass.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thank you
@@tonyaudiotest Glad you enjoyed!
Does anyone know if its possible to make a subwoofer using Bose Sub1 into the TX312 ALTO PA speaker...just wanted to get an insight for those who are familiar with this...Thanks
Hi, I like your setup. Can you show me more details of the connection 2 x s1 pro + sub1 and PreSonus MicroStation BT ? hope can also help with what cables do I need to get as well, please.
Two Bose S1Pros can be connected by Bluetooth in stereo. The only reason I was using the PreSonus was to mute the subwoofer for the video. A better solution for the same price of the Sub1 is the EV ELX200-12sp. That sub has Bluetooth control so you can save money and not buy the PreSonus. Have you seen this video? th-cam.com/video/xY_bw2Adn6c/w-d-xo.html If you already have the Sub1 let me know and I'll go over the connections.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thank you so much for your reply Wesiss. I bought a pair of L1 Pro8 but it does not connect stereo mode as S1 pro you have. I am mainly used for music streaming and Karaoke. After watching your setup then I thought to return the L1 Pro8 and get the two S1 Pro plus a Sub1. I like its stereo and use Bluetooth for streaming music from my phone. Your setup is exactly what need.
Should I keep two L1 pro8 or return get two S1 pro and a Sub1 ? which system is better?
Once again thank you so much for your help Weiss
@@tonynguyen4391 Two Pro8s should be great! For the price of two S1Pros with a Sub1, I would rather get a Pro32/Sub1. You can always add a Sub2 in the future if you play bass heavy music. One Pro32 will fill the largest indoor space. I don't think you will miss the stereo. Have you seen this video? th-cam.com/video/MdFuVjhYoMc/w-d-xo.html
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Once again thank you so much. If you think the L1 pro is a much better option, I will keep the L1 Pro8. Can you please show me how to get 2 L1 Pro8 in stereo mode? I refer 2 Pro8 or 2 Pr16 as a much better look. Thank you for your help Weiss. I like your review very much
@@tonynguyen4391 For stereo you need a mixer. I use a small Yamaha MG06X. Using XLR cables left out from mixer into Ch1 of first Pro8. Right out from mixer to CH1 of second Pro8. If you want the very best XLR cables buy Mogami. 15 feet on each side is probably best -Iwww.amazon.com/Mogami-GOLD-STUDIO-10-Microphone-XLR-Female/dp/B00JHHZ1UQ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=NN68O6L816UU&dchild=1&keywords=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables&qid=1634260879&sprefix=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-6&th=1 This is what I use:www.amazon.com/LyxPro-4-Conductor-Balanced-Microphone-Quality/dp/B00KWINB5Q/ref=sr_1_31?crid=NN68O6L816UU&dchild=1&keywords=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables&qid=1634260963&sprefix=best%2Bxlr%2Bcables%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-31&th=1
can you compare the bose s1 pro and sub 1 vs jbl partybox 310 or 1000
I have never tested them side by side, but I am almost positive they will come nowhere near the performance of a dedicated live sound subwoofer like the Bose Sub1. Through confirmed tests the Sub1 can go down to 40Hz at 123dB! I personally tested the Sub1 over 100db with perfect clarity and zero clipping. JBL 1000 would be close if you can handle the 76Lbs weight!
I m big Big big fan of bose bt I'm very poor my only dream to get bose product in my this life ....before death .... please somebody help me 😭😭😭😭😭
S1 Pro isn’t that much and you can build your setup over time. (Just takes a little saving)
When using s1 pros the ideal is to have a sub 1 per each s1 pro but if using sub 2 with one sub 2 you can use 2 s1 pro.
Hi Bill, Thanks for your great reviews. I have 2-s1pros and Sub1. What would be the best way to hook all three together using a hardwire configuration and what would be the best settings for the speakers. I am using it for an electronic keyboard. Thank You.
I assume your keyboard is going into a mixer, which is the best way. Or do you want to run the keyboard directly into the S1?
Think the Bose sub1 with the S1 -Pro …….is really a lot better than the Fishman 330 sub? which I do like !
Yes I do. Sub1 is next level. I like to tell people the Sub1 is the lightest/smallest REAL subwoofer. Fishman adds very nice low mids and Hifi like bass. On the other hand a REAL subwoofer hits you in the chest! The Fishman doesn't do that. Fishman does go down to 30Hz vs 40Hz of the Bose, which would reproduce recorded Hifi tracks better at lower volumes. Bose Sub1 max 124dB vs Fishman 113dB. 11 dB difference is huge! Think of the Fishman like a very good Hifi floor standing speaker with solid bass. Add a dedicated subwoofer to those towers makes a night and day difference!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz 100% Bill 👍 But you really spoiled me with the Fishman I still love the total lightweight set up it has but ! Yeah the Bose Sub1 would really change to another level ! It’s sad that Fishman discontinued the 330 sub 😔 so good for what you’re getting ! Thanks Much
Great video. This is the system I have but I put both s1pros on the sub 1. I used a yamaha mixer and have done a couple of dj gigs and the people couldn't stop talking about how much sound came from this unit. One of the gigs was a small bowling alley for a end of the year bash and they ask if I would be available for their military ball. And yes One of the events was out doors for a polar plug and there was about 150 people and I passed out my number a few times for new business. So it is very impressive. My mixer and laptop was mounted on the pole also on the trays that clamp on. Maybe I can put together a video so you can see the setup. Thank you again for the content it has helped me a lot.
Thanks for the compliment and thanks for the info. Now I can share with others that this setup can handle upwards of 150 people! Of course using a mixer gives extra headroom. What do you mean you put both S1Pros on the Sub1? Would love to see that video if you make it.
I use a Rockville GASPOLE-B M20 Threaded Air Assist Subwoofer-Speaker Pole Mount Stand
On-Stage SS7920 Dual Mount Speaker Bracket
And the clamp on for laptop and mixer. Friend me on Facebook Phillip Shane Berckman or email me shaneberckman @ gmail
@@shaneberckman How do you mount the mixer on the pole? Having the two S1s on the On Stage Mount so close together causes some frequency cancelations, worse stereo imaging and must defeat some of the excellent 180 degree dispersion the S1 is capable of. Any reason you can't put the second S1 on a stand and separate them?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz it sounds great just keeping the system small as possible. I was a little worried about that at first but it sounded so good and got a lot of attention so I am probably going to get a second setup for bigger events. I have some Alto ts308s and a Altos 312sub i run the same setup. I put the two systems beside each other and ran them through the same mixer I couldn't turn it up 1/4 of the way and they had me leave it there because any more was to loud. I was really surprised how well it actually worked.
I have used separate stands but I bought short cables to keep the smaller footprint neet. I even got power cables that y and goes to a piggyback power cable on the sub to only use one power outlet. On my battery pack our outlet.
Sir! I have an S1 pro and I'm planning to add a sub1 or another s1 pro. Which one would you suggest better. Thank you!
Adding a second S1 Pro will give you 3dB more max output. Having a left/right speaker 10-15 feet apart gives the stereo field no single speaker can accomplish.
The Sub1 is a REAL subwoofer that kicks hard! It will add the missing lows and improve the midrange. Adding the Sub1 turns the very good S1Pro into an excellent full range almost Hi-fi performance! Plus you can high pass the S1Pro to play louder. Not sure if it would be 3dB gain?
My choice: S1Pro over Sub1!
What type of mount is that for the Microstation?
Stage Ninja, its a tablet holder. The Microstation is too heavy for it, actually fell down while filming, not recommended.
Thank you for the response! Well I did make the purchase, but seems like GC has them back ordered! I may consider the EV given all the provided options and specs you mentioned. Thank you Sr!
Yamaha does have the big advantage of having the best 7 year warranty. EV probably has your standard 3 years. As a gigging musician it might come in handy?
Just used the EV at my solo gig.. amazing! It definitely has a better push than the Bose. Thanks again. 🙏🏾
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Hello would you recommend to use the bose sub2 with 2 s1pro?
Yes and No
Yes if you don't mind the very large difference in size, weight, and money. If you are a musician who plays bass or drums through the Sub2 the extra lows 37Hz of the Sub2 is very noticeable. Also if you are playing back heavy bass EDM/Hip hop type tracks. Have you seen this video? th-cam.com/video/gldnIZV7hjA/w-d-xo.html One plus I have found, if you want to run either on external power, the Sub2 doesn't require more power. I run both easily on a 600 watt Ecoflow Pro.
On the other hand even with my Pro32 I never play the Sub2 over 11:00 because anything higher starts to overpower and muddy up the column. I do like to have that extra power in reserve for future larger gigs - especially outside!
Thank you sir for your feedback 🙏 I'm not a musician but I like to enjoy my music in a good sound system I watched all your videos already and I bought my self 2 s1pro and the sub2 and the Microstation bt
I use two Bose S1’s on a dual mount yoke on a single, crank-up speaker tripod along with a single Bose Sub1. I use an external mixer, obviously for more inputs and better EQ control. While this system I have is definitely more money (approx $2k) I believe it’s way more power, greater dispersion and clarity, and more flexibility than any single column array I’ve reviewed. My entire rig including all necessary cables, stands, tip jar, mixer, and accessories fit on one cart for easy load in/out. I’ve never ran out of “gas” with this system in the medium sized venues I gig at. It’s loud and more importantly, clear and highly intelligible to the entire audience. While the JBL MkII is totally portable with full battery operation, I can add a portable Jackman AC power pack to power my sub and all accessories for over 10 hours. As much as I like the idea of an “all-in-one” solution, I really haven’t heard such a system out-perform my rig.
How many watts do you run the Sub1 on external power? Probably too late now that you spent $2k a HUGE step up from your rig is the BosePro32/Sub1in power, throw, and overall sound quality - highs and mids. Of course more $$$. Your system is excellent and would be my second choice. Putting your S1s on speaker stands about 10 feet apart would improve your sound.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Being a sound engineer for 25+ years, the best way to cover a typical bar area is a point source. When you divide a PA to two separate points it creates holes. You sacrifice the sound in the center unless you’re far enough from the audience (not practical in most bars) and the two separate L/R rig creates weird comb filtering depending on the audience seating position. If you get a point source high and behind you you achieve a better alignment as well as a built in (post) monitor (you’re aware of your volume) and you eliminate “hot spots” to the left and right.
Obviously, in larger and wider venues my rig wouldn’t be as effective. What I do in those scenarios is to build a center Bose F1 behind me (over my head) with a single sub and then matrix (with delay) a L/R rig with two S1’s on poles over two powered subs. I attach band lights to those (dual purpose) and the L/R is shaded appropriately to not overpower close seating. Cheers!
@@jonesvox1 Interesting, thanks for the education!
Can you use a single s1 pro with an f1 sub ?
Yes you can. th-cam.com/video/gQM5LX3wan0/w-d-xo.html
Hoping for recommendations from experience with this and other similar speakers…I am looking for a solid active dj speaker to be used in 2 primary ways: First, as a monitor speaker while doing live gigs (I use 1-2 QSC KW122’s as my mains), as well as using it as a home “studio” monitor while practicing and preparing for gigs at home (currently I use one of my KW122’s as my monitor speaker at home)…
Next usage would be just for mobile purposes where I won’t be djing, just playing my mixes off my phone connecting via Bluetooth…Back yard BBQ’s, Pool Parties, Boat, Beach etc…All outdoors, typically under 40 people. And to do that all without the hassle of bringing my mixdeck, MacBook and the much heavier KW122’s…well that’s what I’m looking for.
My main boxes to be checked are:
-Small and light, easy to lug around and easy to store…Quality made and can handle the wear and tear from mobile usage over time…
-Battery Life…I won’t typically do gigs over 5 hours unless it’s big $$$…So I doubt I will ever need to worry about battery life as long as it’s over 8 hours, reliably of course…I’m also assuming that I can plug the speaker into an outlet and it will charge the battery also while playing music on it? When you play it plugged in, does it also charge the battery?
Bluetooth Functionality and Durability…while doing live gigs I will have it hardwired to the mixdeck, but for all other applications, I would prefer to be using the Bluetooth Function and just let the mixes roll right from my phone while I get to chill finally…
-Obviously sound quality is the most important feature of any speaker. I primarily play Deep House Remixed/Hip Hip old and new, reggae-ton and Old School Legendary Miami Booty Music (Uncle Luke, Uncle Al etc)…I’m from Miami so they’re legendary to me anyway 😂🙌…All that should be fine for when I play it via Bluetooth to my phone with this speaker…
Questions regarding Live Gigs:
Is there any delay from your main speaker to this one when using this as a monitor speaker?
Would I run an XLR from my mixdeck to my main PA, then run either an XLR or RCA cable from my main PA to this Bose speaker?
Or would I go mixdeck to Bose speaker (monitor use only), then from Bose speaker to KW122 mains via XLR?
Thank you, I appreciate any solid Intel…sorry for the book 😂
I have one QSC KW122 over a QSC K Sub as my mobile electronic drum amplification. Love it! In a word Bose S1 Pro. Many pros use it as a monitor. Can't beat the portability- 15lbs, great Bluetooth, and battery. If you want more power Mackie Thump Go is almost 2x louder but very lean without a subwoofer. Bose S1 Pro is smoother, more Hifi but will clip sooner. Not sure of Mackie reliability because it just came out, while S1Pro has a great record and support from Bose. None of these small battery/Bluetooth speakers will make you happy with Booty Music! Add the smallest sub and you will realize what you are missing. If you want everything including bass spend $1,200 for the new JBL MK2, then you will be happy! th-cam.com/video/AqCn-3cFfiE/w-d-xo.html
can i have the name of sound are u test? t.q
Glad you liked it! That is an original song I created on GarageBand.
I use my Bose s1 pro with 1 qscks118 subwoffer sounds unbelievable
Wow, would love to hear that! I have tried the S1 with the Bose Sub2 but have to turn the gain down to 10:00 to blend properly.
Again I haven't personally gigged with this setup. After reading more peoples' posts I would say a pair of S1Pros with a Sub1 would be good for 75 people, max 100. A single larger column array like the Pro 16 is good for 150 people.
Hi Bill! Love your videos. I currently have a pair of Bose L1 Compacts and a Fishman SA Sub that I run in stereo (outboard mixer > Fishman SA Sub > L1 Compacts). I think this combo sounds great as the Fishman really rounds out the bottom end of the Compacts. But after watching your videos and reading comments here and elsewhere, I'm curious about the Bose Sub1. I believe you used to own this same Fishman sub, but now that you have the Bose Sub1, is the Bose that much better? In addition to more power, I'm thinking there might be more synergy by staying all Bose? Especially if the Sub1 crossover blends better with the L1 Compacts, as with the Fishman I'm always wondering what sounds best (80hz? 100hz? 125hz?). If you can let me know your thoughts I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
Thanks for the compliment. I still have the Fishman Sub. Lightest sub I have found. Bose Sub1 is a REAL subwoofer it kicks you in the chest. In comparison Fishman is just like you said filling in low end and kind of muddy bass. At least two Fishman's = one Sub1. Get it!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Awesome, Bill, thanks so much for the response and for your thoughts, Bose Sub1 it is! 👍
@@greyboyallstars99 You won't be sorry! Glad I could help.
If you wanted to use Bluetooth, just buy a Bluetooth XLR dongle.
Thanks looking into that. Some as cheap as $50!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I use a Bluetooth XLR dongle made by On Stage. They have some inexpensive ones, and there are ones that are up in the price range of $200.
@@BluesCat1980 Looking into it. I never knew XLR dongles existed.
Can I use a dongle to connect the sub2 and s1 pro but it going through the sub first?
Hello,
Can anyone tell me what cables to use and where to input and output them to make this work. I have the exact same set up but do not know where all the connections go. Thanks!
Thank you for your thorough reviews. They are quite helpful.
Thank you for your compliment. Just hope these videos help people make the right choices when deciding which system to get.
Question: Does a small mixer really make a difference in volume from the S1 pro?
Yes but not much. Maybe a couple of dBs???People report more gain with microphones with a mixer + S1Pro. To me I prefer a clean cable free Bluetooth S1Pro over a mixer set up.
Thank you Sir! Appreciate it! Really happy with my S1 pros, I purchased another!
@@MrMannyvillegas Now all you need is a Sub1 and you will be in Bose Portable PA heaven!
Bill, great videos thanks for the in-depth reviews! Question for you: do you know of any system that would allow you to hook up the audio source (pioneer controller) directly to the s1, via Bluetooth? It seems all the systems I see are adding Bluetooth functionality to the speakers BUT the S1 already has Bluetooth built in so why not take advantage of that?
It would be great to be able to wirelessly send the output of a mixer to the s1 via Bluetooth at a ceremony etc
Thanks!
Thanks for the compliment. I plug a Bluetooth module into my mixer. Of course you have a cable run to the speaker. I don't know if that answers your question?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz half of it haha. You answered the part that I knew already :)
Question is: can you also go Bluetooth from the mixer to the S1 (without plugging an additional Bluetooth receiver into the S1). Is there a Bluetooth XLR transmitter that you could plug at the back of your mixer (presumably two transmitters: one for each L + R channel) and would then be "bluetoothed" into each of the L + R S1's?
@@Realdjheisenberg Interesting idea, let me know when you find out!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I was hoping you'd tell me first ;)
I just read someone posted, Sub1 at 110dB = 2hours run time on external battery. For every 10dB increase you lose one hour of battery capacity. So at 100db = 3hours, 90db = 4hours, 80db = 5hours
I really like the configuration presented in this video, I could do without bluetooth, I would like to be able to connect my cell phone to the sub 1 and from the sub1 to the 2 s1 pro, can you? And what cables do I need for this, thanks for your answer.
@@manuelgomez5621 You would need to run cell phone into a mixer first. From mixer out to Sub1. Sub1 out to S1Pros. Make sure to use 1/4" TRS cable. You will not be able to connect S1s wirelessly. This is the way Bose recommends to get the best clarity and best headroom from the S1Pros.
you lose all credibility when you say "too many wires" and are willing to sacrifice audio quality
My goal for a micro system is one top ,a pole, and a subwoofer, run off Bluetooth with as few cables as possible. I have a 16 channel mixer, RCF TT tops and 20 foot runs of XLR cable. In a live situation in front of an audience I do not depend on Bluetooth. Yes, in that situation I agree with you, I want the best sound and the most headroom possible. You might have missed it but I said this micro system is for my personal mobile rig I take to parks or small gigs. Personally I don't hear any loss of quality when I use Bluetooth. If your ears can tell the difference - More power to you! Thanks for your feedback.
Great video, thanks for pointing out the specs differences between the Sub 1 and the Pro 8 I would have never noticed that, you helped me make my decision, definitely a Sub 1.
Sub1 big difference, good decision! I see you are running a pair of S1Pros for weddings. What is the max number of people it can handle?
Thoughts of hooking a Sub1 up to a JBL eon208p ?
Why not, you have a sub out. Will take your system to the next level adding full range sound. Have you seen this video? EV ELX-200-12sp $100 less, more powerful, Bluetooth App, but heavier at 42lbs vs 35.5lbs for the Sub1. th-cam.com/video/9BzibhD9Ghg/w-d-xo.html
Why do you say hello TH-cam. I don’t work for TH-cam lol