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How cool that you made a petition! It's probably too late to sign it, being it is almost 2022. I want to thank you for doing all these videos. They've been ever so helpful!
Absolutely didn't overreact! That's assault, 100%, I work in a Grocery and if a customer came up and told me that something like that happened, I would do everything I could to make them feel safe and keep the other customer away from them. A sign is a great idea! Etsy might have some hecka cute ones. I wear socially distancing pins on my backpack that are bright orange and big and it does keep people back a bit.
I find some people who are able bodied do not realize that a wheelchair, Walker, or even service dog is a part of you and do not touch! That's just what happens to me.
The same happened to me one time! I’m minding my own business looking at stuff on a shelf and I do try to be conscious to not block people off and this man grabs my handles and ROLLS ME away to get something from the same shelf. You would never go physically pick someone up and carry them and set them somewhere so why in the world do people think it’s fine to do to us? Our wheelchair is our legs it’s a part of us same as my service dog. I also get really frustrated by people that start pushing our chair for us and we kindly tell them we’re fine and can push the chair ourself and they say no no and keep pushing us. Even if you think you’re helping it’s not just ask that’s all you have to do because It takes away the only control I feel I have and my body autonomy. Thank you for talking about this! I’ve been wanting to start a TH-cam channel for awhile to share things/stories/advocacy like this and you’ve inspired me that maybe I should 💕
I would recommend spike covers for your handles to help deter people from grabbing hold of you. Also, something I've done when I've been pushed against my will despite me asking the person to stop is to throw both of my wheel brakes on. Granted, I've almost fallen out as a result of this, but its about the only way I can think to take back control of a situation like that. I equate it to becoming dead weight when someone tries to pick you up.
My late husband was mugged in his wheelchair...but the muggers made a serious mistake. They hit him in the head with a tree branch, so apparently my hubby grabbed one of them and broke his arm. He broke the other mugger's nose. My husband was a U. S. Marine, Special Forces, and used to teach hand-to-hand combat. The muggers definitely learned a lesson that day! But it is despicable for people to randomly jostle or move your chair with you in it. Appalling. Next time, ask in a loud voice, "Sir, why did you think it was appropriate to shake my wheelchair?". He should be both caught off guard (not expecting you to be brave enough to call him out on his behavior) and ashamed by the reaction of the people around him (normal people know it's not polite to shake someone's wheelchair, it is akin to kicking someone's cane!). I'm sorry he was a jerk to you.
I live in America, a bit south of Dallas, Texas, and people grabbing your handles RANDOMLY thinking they're helping when you're going up a ramp or something is NOT uncommon (Or at least not in this town.. maybe because it's smaller. Midlothian.) and it drives me nuts! To the point that, when the used wheelchair I'm getting arrives, those handles are coming off, (I made sure to ask if they did, lol) I cannot deal with that much longer without snapping at someone HARD, and if there are no handles... well, they'll be more hesitant, because at least here, not sure about other places, touching the actual seat itself seems to be where they draw the line, like that's getting too far into your bubble or something... usually. What this person did to you is totally unacceptable, and them not having the spine to even apologize when they realized they were basically assaulting you.
A few years ago I was in line in Disneyland and the man behind me, an unknown stranger, was leaning on the handles on the back of my wheelchair! My daughter who is very very shy and introverted actually found her strength and said please don’t touch my Mums wheelchair. I was so proud of her! I couldn’t believe he was just using my handles to rest on! It’s basically putting your hands on my shoulders. Thank you for your advocating and raising awareness!
As someone who has experience with assistance/service dogs, people still don’t know how to keep their hands to themself. You can have as many tags, posters and badges as you want on your chair and assistance dog but people still feel entitled to grabbing and touching. It may get worse if you do decide to get an assistance dog, as every Karen’s child will want to pet it, but ultimately, people in the service/assistance dog community face the same harassment from public as far as self entitlement goes to touching a disabled person’s equipment. Great video by the way, I’m getting my first chair at the start of next year hopefully! Your videos have been helping heaps!
I’m only a baby wheelchair user, but after a surgery on my foot in 2013 I had to borrow a wheelchair to see an art exhibition I was so excited about. I was sitting in the chair, enjoying a Toulouse Lautrec, when suddenly I was moved and pushed to face a blank wall. The woman running a gallery tour wanted to talk about the painting I was looking at, so she just grabbed me and spun me out of her way! I turned around in complete shock and couldn’t speak, but my boyfriend had seen it all and began shouting at her. It ruined the whole thing for me, I couldn’t leave fast enough. It was just so demeaning and a huge reason why I don’t want fixed handlebars on my wheelchair. On the dog thing, my mum is blind and finds that she feels far less secure and thinks people barge around her even when she’s standing still if she doesn’t have her guide dog. My godmother’s first guide dog was a Golden Retriever, and her second a black Labrador. She found that fewer people touch her or the dog, and keep their distance in general, when she has a black dog, so she’s had black dogs ever since. My mum has always had black labs for the same reason...they feel safer, people think a black dog is automatically more ferocious!
You're not being oversensitive ; you're allowed to have your own sensivity about personal space. I'm in a wheelchair too (MS) and I've learned a lot from your vids. Thanks for the excellent content!
It's honestly so rough that you've had to go through that. I have been in the shops before and had people manhandle and push me out of the way in my chair because I was "in their way" and "taking too long to grab food" when doing my weekly shop. It wouldn't be acceptable for someone with a pram, or someone with crutches so why do people do it for us in wheelchairs
As someone with an assistance dog it seems the harassment doubles as they feel the dog is somehow for the public. They just don’t understand that it’s our medical equipment. Often times we say “you would do that to a wheelchair” but I’m horrified to hear that people do. I’m so sorry this is a problem, but I am grateful you are talking about it! Stay safe and know because of your videos I find myself more empowered to speak up if I see something. I hope when I start my channel I can be as good as an advocate for the disabled community as you are.
This is my biggest pet peeve too. People have no respect or common sense. I’ve literally had strangers wheel me in the opposite direction because they thought they were “helping.” Please don’t touch my wheelchair!
The man was definitely WRONG! ❤️ Thank you for all of your help Gem. I will be going on a cruise ship in February if cruising has resumed. I have degenerative spine disease,spinal stenosis, bone spurs arthritis and am in a lot of pain even with medication. I used to weigh 115 and run 6 miles a day. Many of my medications have made me very heavy. I will have to use my manual wheelchair on the cruise ship but my friend will be assisting me. It will be my first cruise. I can’t walk far without my walker but definitely won’t be able to on a huge cruise ship. I can’t stand the way that able bodied people treat me when I have to use my wheelchair; especially when waiting for an elevator and there is no room. When you finally get into it, they will act very annoyed. I have PTSD and severe anxiety about this. Thank you so much for sharing your story and encouragement with so many. It helps to know that I am not alone.❤️
We have the same diagnosis, it's good to find someone like me. I've had to fight for a chair, and finally placed myself in one. When you tell doctors you were active before they always look like that don't believe that. It's so frustrating! Hope you had a great trip!
This upsets, angers and frustrates me so much! I wish people could understand the impact their actions have on the disabled community. It really makes you feel vulnerable and puts you off going out and like you say not to even mention the pandemic going on. I really hope you get your confidence back soon I have experienced similar anxieties leaving the house in my chair and It’s just so ignorant there is not enough information out there on how to treat wheelchair users with respect although it should just be common sense clearly more needs to be done! Xxxx
People always grab at my service dog when hes helping me walk. It's so rude, or they think because my legs don't work well I cant hear or think for myself. Drives me nuts! Great information video
I know! Someone ruffled my dog's fur and rubbed his head while my dog was bracing me on a set of steps. I pointedly ignored the man, as did my dog, and he stopped. I think people see a dog and lose their brain for a moment.
Not only was that man rude, but he was dangerous as well during this pandemic. I do not like people to touch my wheelchair. As you say Gem, this is an extension of our bodies. Excellent video
Gem, I am so sorry that happen to you. He was absolutely in the wrong! It makes me furious when people push me out of the way or step over me like I'm furniture. Thank you as always for sharing your experiences and raising awareness.
My jaw dropped when you told that story. I honestly can't believe that someone did that to you. That is literally assault. I'm so sorry you went through that.
I had a sign on the back of my chair 1.5" all caps letters "NEVER GET A WHEELCHAIR. IT'S REAL INCONVENIENT FOR OTHER PEOPLE." Thanks for this. I have men pull there cars over behind me on a road shoulder and run at me to push me, and often have to point a fork or screwdriver at them, able-bodied people have NO IDEA!!!
I have signed your petition thankyou for bringing this up as a wheelchair user your videos are help me a lot thank you please keep them keep them coming
I'd have probably lost my temper. I man told me off as he walked in front of me and I told him to f*** off lol I've had someone try and move me out of way so they could access the shelf even though I was LOOKING at said shelf and it like good luck my chair is powered. lol Must be difficult at minute with a mask phobia especially as some look surgical. 😭
You are absolutely right to expect respect for your personal space, Gemma. It’s never happened to me but my reaction would have been the same as yours. Your vlogs are brilliant and love seeing your very entertaining way of approaching life as a wife and mum. Stay safe! Xxx
He was 100% out of order! When I first started using a manual wheelchair after I got sick I was in the supermarket with my boyfriend at the time and he nipped into another aisle to get something we forgot and I was left alone looking at something trying to make my mind up when all of a sudden I am moving into the centre of the aisle without touching my wheels. I turned round confused wondering if it was my boyfriend but it was a total stranger who said nothing to me at all just moved me out the way and walked off. I was destroyed emotionally and couldn't do anything but burst into tears. Felt so violated. Now as a result I hate anyone being near my chair that I dont know even tho now I use a power chair so that couldn't happen agai its left a lasting mark.
@@tinnybird1971 Whether her brakes were locked, or not. No one has a right to touch her wheelchair. Also, why do you say that her boyfriend should have locked her brakes? Don't you think that she was perfectly capable, of doing that herself?
I'm so sorry that happened to you, how arrogant and disrespectful of that man - frankly, I think that's harassment, if not assault. Fantastic video, though - I've shared it so that more people can watch
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND & AGREE with you about wheelchair users. I use a mobility scooter to get about. & I am constantly looking around as to where anyone is from me. I personally have, never had, any issues from anyone. But, that doesn't mean to say that there is always a first time for everything. But, for me so far so good, For anyone in a, wheelchair ALWAYS, ALWAYS!!! try to be aware of your surroundings especially in a shop or strange area or place. Many people can be obliged to a wheelchair user or a mobility scooter user But, there are some that disabled people can be a nuicence (excuse, spelling) getting in their way. So, stand your ground ( so to speak) & if you feel violated give them not only a mouthful but, if really necessary a good slap or call security.
I’m so sorry that happened to you, Gem! I would be so upset too if some stranger did that to my chair while out. I commonly have issues with people, both people I know and strangers, just assuming I want to be pushed and just push me without asking. It’s definitely frustrating, and somewhat dehumanizing also, but I also know that most of the time it’s not done with bad intent and people just want to help (even though doing so is the opposite if helpful). However, I think the unfortunate experience you just had was on a far worse level. This stranger treated you and your chair as if you were some object like a shopping cart that could just be moved out of his way. He completely took away your humanity, then laughed about it like it was some sort of funny joke. What an ignorant pompous jerk! And then with the COVID risk on top of it all, ugh! Just awful! I’m angry and upset for you! Can’t even imagine how it felt to actually experience it. Sending love and socially-distanced hugs your way! 💕😊🌻
I have a co-worker that just will come up behind me and start pushing my chair if am going down the hall at the same time. Drives me bonkers... Since I'm home working now I don't have to worry about him.
@@renateedwards7897 If and when we ever get back to work, could you ask the coworker not to do that? Or put a sign on the back of it, like Gem mentioned? I too would hate that!
Infuriating! He was definitely wrong. I honestly don't understand where some people get these ideas about disabled people thinking that we're not full human beings with all the emotions and individuality as a non-disabled person! Also, there are guys like that who feel entitled to the personal space of others and I wouldn't be surprised if he intentionally unnerved you. Thank you for sharing your experiences, it really helps people know they're not alone and is a record of the issues we face!
Hi Gem, first I am sorry this happened. I still consider it assault. You just don’t touch people, wheelchair or not. You aren’t overreacting. That guy was a “tosser” ( looked it up!). Keep being you. Anxiety sucks. I hear you. Love and light. ~ Mary
My disability is from a rare, progressive, neurological illness. One of the symptoms is a heightened startle reflex. I would have shouted loudly as a result of having been startled
I'm so sorry that happened I have had the same kind of thing happen a couple of times only once did I feel unsafe the other times were just rude annoyances A little range story of my own hopefully will restore a bit of faith in humanity my 1st solo trip in a manual wheelchair (used electric for years before) Worthing range has a steepish slope to its doors and as I was brand new to pushing myself I couldn't do it but a couple of people rushed to help me up and a staff member who saw even offered to help me around the shop I'm glad to say my positive experiences with strangers out ways the bad but the bad has a much longer impact
Thanks for this video. I’m so sorry you had to endure this experience. I would have been freezing out. The guy looked very suspicious to me right from the beginning like he was wanting something from you or trying to hurt you. I’m very pleased that he backed off and that you are safe. I’m here in the USA and I’ve heard of this happening even with able bodied people. Very scary times we live in. Have a great rest of your weekend.
It crossed my mind he could even be a pickpocket. I sometimes use an elec 2 wheel scooter as a mobility aid though I live two houses from a small supermarket. I've had people insist repeatedly that I should let them put it in their car and drive me home. Um, it is a MOBILITY aid!? I only live almost next door. Only reason I could think of for this is either ignorance or intentions to steal it.
I totally agree with you I’ve had people touch my wheelchair that I didn’t know but I know them now but I get and see if somebody behind me that I don’t know start pushing me so I understand the feeling quite well!
I can't believe that happened! It's so rude. And definitely going against social distancing! I think it would be perfectly fine for you to put a sign on your chair. I really appreciate you spreading awareness. I don't use a wheelchair all the time, but if I go to a store I have to use one. I can only stand for a minute or two at a time.
You've been our voice - again! So thank you so mųch! Better noonecould tell others what's need d to be said! Thanks again! Thank you, Lord! Be blessed, Gem, you're so right!
Gem, I have a Service Dog (US), and twice I have been physically pushed as if I were a shopping cart. Once while I was a grocery store and I was appetently in the way of another shopper and they just pushed me out of there way. The second time I was navigating a curb and a man ran up behind me and attempted to forcefully shove me over the curb in order to assist me.
9:15 WHAT?!?!? Literally what?!?! You took your Mum out not the other way round, was THAT inspirational too?! My mind can’t fathom these people and the way they think this is a compliment! I love that idea about a sign saying “Don’t touch me!” Great video as always Gem 👍💪
It must have been so upsetting. I have ha people kick my walking stick away when we've been somewhere busy they don't think that that means you may fall!
The only thing I can think of that has been a positive is that the shops products are emptier to make room for social distancing, proves they can do it, if only it would be kept like this after pandemic.
Hell no, you are definitely not being too sensitive. I hate when people touch my chair. I’m in an electric wheelchair, and sometimes when I see someone try to grab my chair, I’ll try to quickly move. I know exactly the feeling your talking about when someone’s approaching you too. Like you, I feel like my chair is an extension of me and should be respected. Unless I ask for help, no one should touch my chair.
Gem ever had this issue many stores you visit don't have a lap sized basket that Im'm able to carry items in they have extremely high baskets with pull wheels on and many of the adaptive basket do not fit my wheelchair either . I always have to explain to people in store how do you expect a carer to push a wheelchair and pull a wheeled hand basket behind them safely. Thankfully there are still some stores around that still have the lap sized baskets.. And Gem so glad I found your channel keep up th good work you have highlighted many issue that have affected me also since my stroke, thank you and take care
My sister and I were shopping when our kids were small, now my sister is 5'2 and 92 lbs and I am 6' and 180lbs, this is important later. She had pushed me up to the passenger side of the car, I set my brakes and started to transfer. My sister went to put the kids in car seats. A man that I didn't see picked me up from behind and set me in the car. So obviously a large man and then yelled at my sister for not helping me. "Why aren't you helping your sister" We were both so shocked we had no idea what to do. Honestly though 2 things stick with me 1. How did he know we were sisters, she is tiny red hair and freckles and I have black hair and I'm tall and darker complected. 2. How on earth did he think she could help? Prayer, magic, cheering?
That man was 100% in the wrong and I believe you could have pressed charges for assault on him. My recommendation would be to get spike covers for your handle grips. This really helps to get the message across of "Do Not Touch"
From America and I totally thought you meant gun range. lol. Took me forever to figure out you meant a store in the UK. 😂 THANK YOU FOR SHARING. have a great day chica
In that situation, I would always ask if it's ok to walk past that person, making myself known beforehand. In these virus circumstances I would probably say something awkward, like. Oh, sorry/ I'll wait. Oh, sorry, I thought you were done, or, oh, sorry didn't see you there (after taking a sharp blind turn), I would never try to push somebody out of the way. Wheelchair, walker, people moving to slow, people with children, children, whathaveyou... Never ever try to move someone out of the way. If hurried, stressed or freaked out, never ever make someone else feel unsafe. And that's my rant about this.
Most of the time people treat a wheelchair user as invisible because it’s not in their experience. Even in the supermarket my hubby was asked :’ can she pay?’ He replied that if she wanted payment she should speak to me. Never went back there. Being in a wheelchair makes you a vulnerable adult. Mind you I can give as good as I get but there are others who cannot do that.🥴
I feel the same way, but also I’m Deaf and can’t speak well. I get scared easily because people come behind me grab my wheelchair and start pushing. I feel like putting a big sign on the back of me saying don’t touch.
Sorry you had to deal with that. There are far too many people who just don't understand what is and what isn't acceptable. I've been moved, bashed into, huffed at when people walk into me. I sometimes hate going out due to other people. Being autistic, that makes it even more the case. The outside world would be so much better without people 😂
You totally deserve a service dog just as much as anyone else with a disability and/or mental health condition! For you a service animal can help you both with physical things like picking things up from the floor, carry something that isn’t too heavy, help you calm down if you feel anxious and what have you. There’s so much a service dog could do for you both while on duty when you’re outside and while just chilling at home. Just be aware that people tend to want to ask about the dog and may try to get its attention and try to pet it without permission and so on, it shouldn’t happen but it does... I don’t have a service dog myself but know people that do or have had one... As for people touching a wheelchair, I hate it and it doesn’t matter if I’m in the chair or not at the time! And I’m extra upset with ignorant parents who let their children touch my chair while I’m sitting some rows away on a train (because the pram mob occupied the handicap accessible seats!) and I came back to my front light being lit (I had little bike lights on my chair for a while) which of course made that lamp stop working soon after and a lot sooner than the other light... I have also had to move while sitting in an audience because ignorant parents let their kids play around my chair and touch it, like playing with my spokes and so on, and every sudden movement or vibration (such as someone bumping into my chair or play with the spokes) can cause a lot of pain for me, especially if a sudden movement happens when I’m not prepared for it and can tense my body up to compensate for it. I also can’t stand people who just start pushing my chair, I’ve even hissed at mum many times for it, reminding her sternly that I will ask for help if I need help! If someone just grabs my chair like that and starts pushing me it can throw me off balance as I need to sit differently when being pushed vs when I self propel totally on my own, and most people don’t even know HOW to safely push someone in a wheelchair! We’re not in a pram and we’re not a shopping cart you can just push mindlessly, and we have teeny tiny casters up front that can get stuck on anything (unlike a pram which tends to have larger wheels all around) so you can’t just push a wheelchair and think all is fine and dandy and not look at the ground in front of you. I’ve nearly taken falls at times when mum pushes me and doesn’t bother with the ground in front of us, and also when you push a chair you have to follow what the wheelchair user is doing, don’t ever try to counter their steering because they’re steering for a reason! (Most likely to avoid that stick or pothole or dog turd that the person pushing the chair doesn’t pay attention to) I’ve had a complete stranger start pushing my chair at a local event and I told him several times that I’m fine and know what I’m doing (even surface and all) but he wouldn’t listen. When I finally got rid of him I showed off some by going back to the table with one dessert held between my knees and another in my hand and going through the crowd like a pro with the one hand juggle method while mum carried coffee for us both back to the table. I guess that shut some people up...
I would look for that guy and make him write a long letter of apology; we don't touch you and you don't touch us, so what makes you think you have the right to touch us. Honestly...
As a wheelchair user myself I can think of no acceptable excuse for a stranger to come up to a person's wheelchair or any other mobility equipment and forcefully try to move you out of their way.
I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I've been a wheelchair user for around 12 years and in the last year started using a power chair. I don't know why but in that time I've only had about 4 instances of that type. People just seem to be nice and friendly and helpful where I live.
Oh that art work is just lovely! So many people I would like to support on Instagram but Im just not willing to take the plunge of getting back into using the app. Im sorry this happened to you. When you are already worked up and then something happens its hits as special kind of bad. Also, as someone with no idea, can I ask: what is The Range?
You are right, the chair is extension of your body. Our dogs lay with their heads between the large and the front wheels for a cuddle and tap the wheels for a biscuit. As for the Abled Bodied and I am ashamed to say I was one, why do they stay 1m away from everyone else, then stand behind a wheelchair and breath down the back of my neck???? It's gross and dangerous pandemic wise. I want sign, "If I can pick up my dogs poo why can't can't you?" I'm sick of dodging other dogs poo when it's such a struggle for me to pick up after my dogs. Hanging over the side of the chair to get it. I'm sure people in my area think it's me not picking up or is it someone not picking up because I do the same route everyday and they can blame me. Ha!!! Sorry to ramble Mental health??? What!!?!!?? Don't have any!!!
adjust the bucket and get a positionig cushion -> if it still isn't enough aim for a positioning system like the tarta back (I use it myself an are quite fond about the extra cushion for my hyperlordosis and the sides which are holding me in place). If it still isn't enough you can get a positioning system based on your body (they let you sit in a gellike seat and mold the cushion and back after your proportions).
Not too long ago i was grocery shopping in my local supermarkt and a stranger pushed me away while i was reaching for pasta so he could get pasta for himself. I was so pissed off and got really mad at him(didt not yell or scream at him tho) but i told him off. Staff that was nearby and helped me bcoz he got angry at me coz i was in his way🤔🤦♀️🤦♀️ i guess u cant fix stupid 🙄🙄 And all in the middle of covid-19.
I need a power chair now, but when I used a manual chair, I really didn’t like it in medical settings when ‘care providers’ would just push my chair around the room to put me where they wanted me. Sometimes I would tell them I prefer to move myself. I usually found that this bothered them. I don’t mind bothering someone to maintain my personal space, but there were times that I wanted to keep on their good wide for various reasons. I invite folks who can walk to imagine how they would like it if someone came up and started physically pushing them around. It is the same. If you think someone may want or need help, go ahead and ask if they want help, and by all means if they say no, respect it. People often rush to open or hold doors for me. This is not something I need and at times I get annoyed by it. But I try to give myself an attitude adjustment and rather thank them for wanting to help. Sometimes if I am closer to they door than they are I may thank them for their kindness and say that I can manage. If a person says they don’t want or need help, it is disrespectful to insist or do it anyway.
I was at an awards ceremony where I was being honored. I had a event staff member shove me out of the way when I didn't move fast enough for him. It was the first time I actually felt that my chair was a part of me.
I have had issues in the past with people moving me in my wheelchair. Including two different doctors! I want to get the spiked handle covers to prevent people from grabbing me. Im so sorry that it also happened to you. He was absolutely in the wrong in his actions.
So they actually sell products like that? Spiked handle products? I would think that would make matters WORSE! Because then you will find yourself stuck in a lot of lawsuits. Nowadays, People are looking for any reason to SUE someone over stupid stuff OR ANY little thing.
@@tinnybird1971 you have to search for them or make it yourself. It’s not like super sharp - think dog collars. Just enough to know not to touch. You do bring up a good point of people being sue happy. Right now I just rely on my family to be with me constantly. That makes me feel like a burden, especially when it’s one of my daughters.
@@-MrsG- Oh I see. But sorry you have to deal with bull headed people who invade your space & do that to you. But you give me an idea as far as making my own no touch devices for wheelchair handles. (Just in case) Knowing me I would probably put slime putty so it feels gross to people & they would let go of it quickly. Bet they won't touch it ever again. But that's only my idea. I know I can come up with more. But when I'm in my manual wheelchair and I'm out in public I always lock my wheelchair so that people don't come up touching and pushing me out of the way. Otherwise I'm always in my jazzy motorized wheelchair most of time. Usually around here though, Nobody bothers me or pushes me out of the way or anything like that. They always ask permission first.
@@tinnybird1971 isn’t it amazing the difference that being in a manual chair vs power hair makes? Love the idea about the slime on the handles, so creative!
Get spikes put on the handles of your chair. I've seen wheelchair users sew little cloth covers with spikes on them that kinda look like elongated scrunchies. They can be easily removed but if anyone just tried to grab your chair it would be super uncomfortable. I will likely need a chair within the next few years due to declining mobility and I've thought of doing the same thing because I'm terrified of someone kidnapping me since it would be very easy to just grab my chair and push me. If I can find a shop that makes them I'll add the link to this comment!
This isn't exactly what I was talking about as these would be harder to remove, but this is the general idea! www.etsy.com/listing/768559885/spiked-faux-or-real-leather-wheelchair
Service dogs are one of the things people touch and interfere with the most depending on the breed. Get a doberman pinscher or a well muscled pit bull if you want an assistance dog no one will touch. I have a shepherd mobility dog and my friend who has a fiercer looking dog has less people try to interact. I can't go out without people trying to interfere with my medical equipment. Once I was nearly passed out on the ground and my dog was doing DPT on top of me and someone still tried to pet him while he was on me.
I had someone kick back of my wheelchair and it hurt my back. I have a Facebook public group called Disability hate crime, there's no respect these days for anyone. I think the man was so wrong, he could of gone passed there was so much space. Or gone down another lane.
I'm so sorry that happened to you! They looked like a teenager, and we all know how rude they can be. That never happened to me, however, if it did, I would have backed up into them! 😂😂😂
2:40 Maybe that's obvious to someone who knows what The Range is. I agree with you completely. That man should not have done what he did. Your description reminded me of a similar experience, although that man didn't come as close. Years ago, I went to a fair of some kind. I saw some devices and I didn't think it would be a problem if I pressed a button or two on there (which would not have changed any settings anyway). I was startled by a man asking something like, "Is that allowed?" He sounded rather serious too. I was on my armrest at the time, so I immediately stopped what I was doing and went off of my armrest. That's when that guy said he was just kidding. I remember thinking, "You really think that's funny...?" With your anxiety, what happened to you must have felt worse than what happened to me. So, far be it from me to downplay that. However, in both our cases some guy thought he was being funny when he absolutely was not. I wish people would understand how we see our wheelchairs and account for what position we may be in!
I have a sign on the back of my chair that says Drink coffee, do stupid things faster and with more energy. People think twice about touching my chair without my permission.
Put me in the category of not going out at all - and I still got coronavirus! My mum is whining at me about getting my groceries delivered - my choice, my decision, she has no idea how much easier it makes things, but in her mind "it would be good me".
Ik heb dat ook een keer gehad in de Hema Kreeg daarna ook nog een aai over mijn bol. Echt verschrikkelijk. Blijf met je poten van mij af. Ik zit dan wel op kinderen niveau. Maar blijf wel een volwassen.
seems no matter where you live in the world we all seem to have the same problems I'm also disabled and live in America I have the same issue of having someone messing with my wheelchair pretty much most of the time
I hate it when people grab my wheelchair without asking. Other thing - In Australia, if you already have a dog, there are businesses that will train up your dog as an Assistance Dog. They still have to pass an access test. I not sure what's available in England.
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How cool that you made a petition! It's probably too late to sign it, being it is almost 2022.
I want to thank you for doing all these videos. They've been ever so helpful!
Absolutely didn't overreact! That's assault, 100%, I work in a Grocery and if a customer came up and told me that something like that happened, I would do everything I could to make them feel safe and keep the other customer away from them. A sign is a great idea! Etsy might have some hecka cute ones. I wear socially distancing pins on my backpack that are bright orange and big and it does keep people back a bit.
I find some people who are able bodied do not realize that a wheelchair, Walker, or even service dog is a part of you and do not touch! That's just what happens to me.
Thank you so much for being an advocate for disability access and awareness
The same happened to me one time! I’m minding my own business looking at stuff on a shelf and I do try to be conscious to not block people off and this man grabs my handles and ROLLS ME away to get something from the same shelf. You would never go physically pick someone up and carry them and set them somewhere so why in the world do people think it’s fine to do to us? Our wheelchair is our legs it’s a part of us same as my service dog. I also get really frustrated by people that start pushing our chair for us and we kindly tell them we’re fine and can push the chair ourself and they say no no and keep pushing us. Even if you think you’re helping it’s not just ask that’s all you have to do because It takes away the only control I feel I have and my body autonomy. Thank you for talking about this! I’ve been wanting to start a TH-cam channel for awhile to share things/stories/advocacy like this and you’ve inspired me that maybe I should 💕
I would recommend spike covers for your handles to help deter people from grabbing hold of you. Also, something I've done when I've been pushed against my will despite me asking the person to stop is to throw both of my wheel brakes on. Granted, I've almost fallen out as a result of this, but its about the only way I can think to take back control of a situation like that. I equate it to becoming dead weight when someone tries to pick you up.
Wow that is crazy. I am new wheelchair user. And I am scared to go out in my wheelchair bc people are just so rude. I am glad that you are okay
My late husband was mugged in his wheelchair...but the muggers made a serious mistake. They hit him in the head with a tree branch, so apparently my hubby grabbed one of them and broke his arm. He broke the other mugger's nose. My husband was a U. S. Marine, Special Forces, and used to teach hand-to-hand combat. The muggers definitely learned a lesson that day!
But it is despicable for people to randomly jostle or move your chair with you in it. Appalling. Next time, ask in a loud voice, "Sir, why did you think it was appropriate to shake my wheelchair?". He should be both caught off guard (not expecting you to be brave enough to call him out on his behavior) and ashamed by the reaction of the people around him (normal people know it's not polite to shake someone's wheelchair, it is akin to kicking someone's cane!). I'm sorry he was a jerk to you.
I live in America, a bit south of Dallas, Texas, and people grabbing your handles RANDOMLY thinking they're helping when you're going up a ramp or something is NOT uncommon (Or at least not in this town.. maybe because it's smaller. Midlothian.) and it drives me nuts! To the point that, when the used wheelchair I'm getting arrives, those handles are coming off, (I made sure to ask if they did, lol) I cannot deal with that much longer without snapping at someone HARD, and if there are no handles... well, they'll be more hesitant, because at least here, not sure about other places, touching the actual seat itself seems to be where they draw the line, like that's getting too far into your bubble or something... usually.
What this person did to you is totally unacceptable, and them not having the spine to even apologize when they realized they were basically assaulting you.
A few years ago I was in line in Disneyland and the man behind me, an unknown stranger, was leaning on the handles on the back of my wheelchair! My daughter who is very very shy and introverted actually found her strength and said please don’t touch my Mums wheelchair. I was so proud of her! I couldn’t believe he was just using my handles to rest on! It’s basically putting your hands on my shoulders.
Thank you for your advocating and raising awareness!
As someone who has experience with assistance/service dogs, people still don’t know how to keep their hands to themself. You can have as many tags, posters and badges as you want on your chair and assistance dog but people still feel entitled to grabbing and touching. It may get worse if you do decide to get an assistance dog, as every Karen’s child will want to pet it, but ultimately, people in the service/assistance dog community face the same harassment from public as far as self entitlement goes to touching a disabled person’s equipment. Great video by the way, I’m getting my first chair at the start of next year hopefully! Your videos have been helping heaps!
I’m only a baby wheelchair user, but after a surgery on my foot in 2013 I had to borrow a wheelchair to see an art exhibition I was so excited about. I was sitting in the chair, enjoying a Toulouse Lautrec, when suddenly I was moved and pushed to face a blank wall. The woman running a gallery tour wanted to talk about the painting I was looking at, so she just grabbed me and spun me out of her way! I turned around in complete shock and couldn’t speak, but my boyfriend had seen it all and began shouting at her. It ruined the whole thing for me, I couldn’t leave fast enough. It was just so demeaning and a huge reason why I don’t want fixed handlebars on my wheelchair.
On the dog thing, my mum is blind and finds that she feels far less secure and thinks people barge around her even when she’s standing still if she doesn’t have her guide dog. My godmother’s first guide dog was a Golden Retriever, and her second a black Labrador. She found that fewer people touch her or the dog, and keep their distance in general, when she has a black dog, so she’s had black dogs ever since. My mum has always had black labs for the same reason...they feel safer, people think a black dog is automatically more ferocious!
You're not being oversensitive ; you're allowed to have your own sensivity about personal space. I'm in a wheelchair too (MS) and I've learned a lot from your vids. Thanks for the excellent content!
It's honestly so rough that you've had to go through that.
I have been in the shops before and had people manhandle and push me out of the way in my chair because I was "in their way" and "taking too long to grab food" when doing my weekly shop. It wouldn't be acceptable for someone with a pram, or someone with crutches so why do people do it for us in wheelchairs
As someone with an assistance dog it seems the harassment doubles as they feel the dog is somehow for the public. They just don’t understand that it’s our medical equipment. Often times we say “you would do that to a wheelchair” but I’m horrified to hear that people do. I’m so sorry this is a problem, but I am grateful you are talking about it! Stay safe and know because of your videos I find myself more empowered to speak up if I see something. I hope when I start my channel I can be as good as an advocate for the disabled community as you are.
This is my biggest pet peeve too. People have no respect or common sense. I’ve literally had strangers wheel me in the opposite direction because they thought they were “helping.” Please don’t touch my wheelchair!
The man was definitely WRONG! ❤️ Thank you for all of your help Gem. I will be going on a cruise ship in February if cruising has resumed. I have degenerative spine disease,spinal stenosis, bone spurs arthritis and am in a lot of pain even with medication. I used to weigh 115 and run 6 miles a day. Many of my medications have made me very heavy. I will have to use my manual wheelchair on the cruise ship but my friend will be assisting me. It will be my first cruise. I can’t walk far without my walker but definitely won’t be able to on a huge cruise ship. I can’t stand the way that able bodied people treat me when I have to use my wheelchair; especially when waiting for an elevator and there is no room. When you finally get into it, they will act very annoyed. I have PTSD and severe anxiety about this. Thank you so much for sharing your story and encouragement with so many. It helps to know that I am not alone.❤️
We have the same diagnosis, it's good to find someone like me. I've had to fight for a chair, and finally placed myself in one. When you tell doctors you were active before they always look like that don't believe that. It's so frustrating! Hope you had a great trip!
This upsets, angers and frustrates me so much! I wish people could understand the impact their actions have on the disabled community. It really makes you feel vulnerable and puts you off going out and like you say not to even mention the pandemic going on. I really hope you get your confidence back soon I have experienced similar anxieties leaving the house in my chair and It’s just so ignorant there is not enough information out there on how to treat wheelchair users with respect although it should just be common sense clearly more needs to be done! Xxxx
People always grab at my service dog when hes helping me walk. It's so rude, or they think because my legs don't work well I cant hear or think for myself. Drives me nuts! Great information video
I know! Someone ruffled my dog's fur and rubbed his head while my dog was bracing me on a set of steps. I pointedly ignored the man, as did my dog, and he stopped. I think people see a dog and lose their brain for a moment.
Yes, people also don't know how to behave around seeing eye dogs either!
Not only was that man rude, but he was dangerous as well during this pandemic. I do not like people to touch my wheelchair. As you say Gem, this is an extension of our bodies. Excellent video
Maybe the laws need to be updated and touching, moving and pushing someone's wheelchair especially when told to stop be considered an assault.
Gem, I am so sorry that happen to you. He was absolutely in the wrong! It makes me furious when people push me out of the way or step over me like I'm furniture. Thank you as always for sharing your experiences and raising awareness.
Also, people with service dogs may not be in the mood, 24/7, to give strangers and/or their child a learning moment...
My jaw dropped when you told that story. I honestly can't believe that someone did that to you. That is literally assault. I'm so sorry you went through that.
I had a sign on the back of my chair 1.5" all caps letters "NEVER GET A WHEELCHAIR. IT'S REAL INCONVENIENT FOR OTHER PEOPLE."
Thanks for this. I have men pull there cars over behind me on a road shoulder and run at me to push me, and often have to point a fork or screwdriver at them, able-bodied people have NO IDEA!!!
Maybe you should have a cane as well to use like a numchuck
I have signed your petition thankyou for bringing this up as a wheelchair user your videos are help me a lot thank you please keep them keep them coming
I'd have probably lost my temper. I man told me off as he walked in front of me and I told him to f*** off lol
I've had someone try and move me out of way so they could access the shelf even though I was LOOKING at said shelf and it like good luck my chair is powered. lol
Must be difficult at minute with a mask phobia especially as some look surgical. 😭
You are absolutely right to expect respect for your personal space, Gemma. It’s never happened to me but my reaction would have been the same as yours. Your vlogs are brilliant and love seeing your very entertaining way of approaching life as a wife and mum. Stay safe! Xxx
He was 100% out of order! When I first started using a manual wheelchair after I got sick I was in the supermarket with my boyfriend at the time and he nipped into another aisle to get something we forgot and I was left alone looking at something trying to make my mind up when all of a sudden I am moving into the centre of the aisle without touching my wheels. I turned round confused wondering if it was my boyfriend but it was a total stranger who said nothing to me at all just moved me out the way and walked off. I was destroyed emotionally and couldn't do anything but burst into tears. Felt so violated. Now as a result I hate anyone being near my chair that I dont know even tho now I use a power chair so that couldn't happen agai its left a lasting mark.
Your boyfriend should have locked your brakes, That way people just can't come up and move you around like that.
@@tinnybird1971 Whether her brakes were locked, or not. No one has a right to touch her wheelchair. Also, why do you say that her boyfriend should have locked her brakes? Don't you think that she was perfectly capable, of doing that herself?
That is shocking! Especially at the moment, I can't believe that some people don't respect personal space.
i have had someone push me with out saying anything in the supermarket during covid, i compare it to picking someone up and moving them.
I'm so sorry that happened to you, how arrogant and disrespectful of that man - frankly, I think that's harassment, if not assault. Fantastic video, though - I've shared it so that more people can watch
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND & AGREE with you about wheelchair users. I use a mobility scooter to get about. & I am constantly looking around as to where anyone is from me. I personally have, never had, any issues from anyone. But, that doesn't mean to say that there is always a first time for everything. But, for me so far so good, For anyone in a, wheelchair ALWAYS, ALWAYS!!! try to be aware of your surroundings especially in a shop or strange area or place. Many people can be obliged to a wheelchair user or a mobility scooter user But, there are some that disabled people can be a nuicence (excuse, spelling) getting in their way. So, stand your ground ( so to speak) & if you feel violated give them not only a mouthful but, if really necessary a good slap or call security.
I’m so sorry that happened to you, Gem! I would be so upset too if some stranger did that to my chair while out. I commonly have issues with people, both people I know and strangers, just assuming I want to be pushed and just push me without asking. It’s definitely frustrating, and somewhat dehumanizing also, but I also know that most of the time it’s not done with bad intent and people just want to help (even though doing so is the opposite if helpful). However, I think the unfortunate experience you just had was on a far worse level. This stranger treated you and your chair as if you were some object like a shopping cart that could just be moved out of his way. He completely took away your humanity, then laughed about it like it was some sort of funny joke. What an ignorant pompous jerk! And then with the COVID risk on top of it all, ugh! Just awful! I’m angry and upset for you! Can’t even imagine how it felt to actually experience it. Sending love and socially-distanced hugs your way! 💕😊🌻
I have a co-worker that just will come up behind me and start pushing my chair if am going down the hall at the same time. Drives me bonkers... Since I'm home working now I don't have to worry about him.
@@renateedwards7897 If and when we ever get back to work, could you ask the coworker not to do that? Or put a sign on the back of it, like Gem mentioned? I too would hate that!
Infuriating! He was definitely wrong. I honestly don't understand where some people get these ideas about disabled people thinking that we're not full human beings with all the emotions and individuality as a non-disabled person! Also, there are guys like that who feel entitled to the personal space of others and I wouldn't be surprised if he intentionally unnerved you. Thank you for sharing your experiences, it really helps people know they're not alone and is a record of the issues we face!
Hi Gem, first I am sorry this happened. I still consider it assault. You just don’t touch people, wheelchair or not. You aren’t overreacting. That guy was a “tosser” ( looked it up!). Keep being you. Anxiety sucks. I hear you. Love and light. ~ Mary
Thank you for the PSA. You are right to react to that since people should know better
My disability is from a rare, progressive, neurological illness. One of the symptoms is a heightened startle reflex. I would have shouted loudly as a result of having been startled
I'm so sorry that happened I have had the same kind of thing happen a couple of times only once did I feel unsafe the other times were just rude annoyances
A little range story of my own hopefully will restore a bit of faith in humanity my 1st solo trip in a manual wheelchair (used electric for years before) Worthing range has a steepish slope to its doors and as I was brand new to pushing myself I couldn't do it but a couple of people rushed to help me up and a staff member who saw even offered to help me around the shop
I'm glad to say my positive experiences with strangers out ways the bad but the bad has a much longer impact
Thanks for this video. I’m so sorry you had to endure this experience. I would have been freezing out. The guy looked very suspicious to me right from the beginning like he was wanting something from you or trying to hurt you. I’m very pleased that he backed off and that you are safe. I’m here in the USA and I’ve heard of this happening even with able bodied people. Very scary times we live in. Have a great rest of your weekend.
It crossed my mind he could even be a pickpocket. I sometimes use an elec 2 wheel scooter as a mobility aid though I live two houses from a small supermarket. I've had people insist repeatedly that I should let them put it in their car and drive me home. Um, it is a MOBILITY aid!? I only live almost next door. Only reason I could think of for this is either ignorance or intentions to steal it.
In my own experience, there's sadly many people out there who would give more respect to a supermarket trolley than me in my wheelchair.
Yup. Right there with you. Wether it’s walker, wheelchair, whatever aid...it’s never ok to intrude on a person’s space like that
I totally agree with you I’ve had people touch my wheelchair that I didn’t know but I know them now but I get and see if somebody behind me that I don’t know start pushing me so I understand the feeling quite well!
I can't believe that happened! It's so rude. And definitely going against social distancing! I think it would be perfectly fine for you to put a sign on your chair. I really appreciate you spreading awareness. I don't use a wheelchair all the time, but if I go to a store I have to use one. I can only stand for a minute or two at a time.
You've been our voice - again! So thank you so mųch! Better noonecould tell others what's need d to be said! Thanks again! Thank you, Lord! Be blessed, Gem, you're so right!
Gem, I have a Service Dog (US), and twice I have been physically pushed as if I were a shopping cart. Once while I was a grocery store and I was appetently in the way of another shopper and they just pushed me out of there way. The second time I was navigating a curb and a man ran up behind me and attempted to forcefully shove me over the curb in order to assist me.
6:30 And they have said "yes". I agree. It's inexcusable. I honestly don't understand what excuse people claim to have.
The amount that I relate to this is *astronomical*
9:15 WHAT?!?!? Literally what?!?! You took your Mum out not the other way round, was THAT inspirational too?! My mind can’t fathom these people and the way they think this is a compliment! I love that idea about a sign saying “Don’t touch me!” Great video as always Gem 👍💪
i cant wait to get my lifted powerchair when i can afford and see if someone will try to push it and fail because its like 100kg w me on it
It must have been so upsetting. I have ha people kick my walking stick away when we've been somewhere busy they don't think that that means you may fall!
A woman in my doctors office waiting room approached me, bent down, put her face in my face, to "bless me." ☹️🤬😤 We are all wearing masks, people!!!
The only thing I can think of that has been a positive is that the shops products are emptier to make room for social distancing, proves they can do it, if only it would be kept like this after pandemic.
He was definitely wrong! I'm sorry you experienced that. I am from the U.S., I have MS and use a walker. I only leave the house to see the doctor!
Hell no, you are definitely not being too sensitive. I hate when people touch my chair. I’m in an electric wheelchair, and sometimes when I see someone try to grab my chair, I’ll try to quickly move. I know exactly the feeling your talking about when someone’s approaching you too. Like you, I feel like my chair is an extension of me and should be respected. Unless I ask for help, no one should touch my chair.
Gem ever had this issue many stores you visit don't have a lap sized basket that Im'm able to carry items in they have extremely high baskets with pull wheels on and many of the adaptive basket do not fit my wheelchair either . I always have to explain to people in store how do you expect a carer to push a wheelchair and pull a wheeled hand basket behind them safely. Thankfully there are still some stores around that still have the lap sized baskets.. And Gem so glad I found your channel keep up th good work you have highlighted many issue that have affected me also since my stroke, thank you and take care
My sister and I were shopping when our kids were small, now my sister is 5'2 and 92 lbs and I am 6' and 180lbs, this is important later. She had pushed me up to the passenger side of the car, I set my brakes and started to transfer. My sister went to put the kids in car seats. A man that I didn't see picked me up from behind and set me in the car. So obviously a large man and then yelled at my sister for not helping me. "Why aren't you helping your sister" We were both so shocked we had no idea what to do. Honestly though 2 things stick with me 1. How did he know we were sisters, she is tiny red hair and freckles and I have black hair and I'm tall and darker complected. 2. How on earth did he think she could help? Prayer, magic, cheering?
That man was 100% in the wrong and I believe you could have pressed charges for assault on him. My recommendation would be to get spike covers for your handle grips. This really helps to get the message across of "Do Not Touch"
I would consider a person touching my rollator or wheelchair equivalent to someone touching my purse.
Hands off.
From America and I totally thought you meant gun range. lol. Took me forever to figure out you meant a store in the UK. 😂
THANK YOU FOR SHARING. have a great day chica
In that situation, I would always ask if it's ok to walk past that person, making myself known beforehand. In these virus circumstances I would probably say something awkward, like. Oh, sorry/ I'll wait. Oh, sorry, I thought you were done, or, oh, sorry didn't see you there (after taking a sharp blind turn), I would never try to push somebody out of the way. Wheelchair, walker, people moving to slow, people with children, children, whathaveyou... Never ever try to move someone out of the way. If hurried, stressed or freaked out, never ever make someone else feel unsafe. And that's my rant about this.
I would of freaked out! I tend to get extremely cranky when people touch my wheel chair
Most of the time people treat a wheelchair user as invisible because it’s not in their experience. Even in the supermarket my hubby was asked :’ can she pay?’ He replied that if she wanted payment she should speak to me. Never went back there. Being in a wheelchair makes you a vulnerable adult. Mind you I can give as good as I get but there are others who cannot do that.🥴
Glad you reuploaded this. If at least one person learns from this then it has done the job.
I haven't been to the shops this year (2020) at all. Normally it's a trip by taxi. I don't know what goes on in supermarkets anymore.
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I feel the same way, but also I’m Deaf and can’t speak well. I get scared easily because people come behind me grab my wheelchair and start pushing. I feel like putting a big sign on the back of me saying don’t touch.
This is the scariest thing about being a wheelchair user 🤯 I hate it because you would not move someone who walks’ legs!!! 🤬
Sorry you had to deal with that.
There are far too many people who just don't understand what is and what isn't acceptable.
I've been moved, bashed into, huffed at when people walk into me. I sometimes hate going out due to other people. Being autistic, that makes it even more the case. The outside world would be so much better without people 😂
Completely unacceptable behaviour! Sorry you had to endure that! I have chronic anxiety, and that would have set me off big time x
You totally deserve a service dog just as much as anyone else with a disability and/or mental health condition! For you a service animal can help you both with physical things like picking things up from the floor, carry something that isn’t too heavy, help you calm down if you feel anxious and what have you. There’s so much a service dog could do for you both while on duty when you’re outside and while just chilling at home. Just be aware that people tend to want to ask about the dog and may try to get its attention and try to pet it without permission and so on, it shouldn’t happen but it does... I don’t have a service dog myself but know people that do or have had one...
As for people touching a wheelchair, I hate it and it doesn’t matter if I’m in the chair or not at the time! And I’m extra upset with ignorant parents who let their children touch my chair while I’m sitting some rows away on a train (because the pram mob occupied the handicap accessible seats!) and I came back to my front light being lit (I had little bike lights on my chair for a while) which of course made that lamp stop working soon after and a lot sooner than the other light... I have also had to move while sitting in an audience because ignorant parents let their kids play around my chair and touch it, like playing with my spokes and so on, and every sudden movement or vibration (such as someone bumping into my chair or play with the spokes) can cause a lot of pain for me, especially if a sudden movement happens when I’m not prepared for it and can tense my body up to compensate for it.
I also can’t stand people who just start pushing my chair, I’ve even hissed at mum many times for it, reminding her sternly that I will ask for help if I need help! If someone just grabs my chair like that and starts pushing me it can throw me off balance as I need to sit differently when being pushed vs when I self propel totally on my own, and most people don’t even know HOW to safely push someone in a wheelchair! We’re not in a pram and we’re not a shopping cart you can just push mindlessly, and we have teeny tiny casters up front that can get stuck on anything (unlike a pram which tends to have larger wheels all around) so you can’t just push a wheelchair and think all is fine and dandy and not look at the ground in front of you. I’ve nearly taken falls at times when mum pushes me and doesn’t bother with the ground in front of us, and also when you push a chair you have to follow what the wheelchair user is doing, don’t ever try to counter their steering because they’re steering for a reason! (Most likely to avoid that stick or pothole or dog turd that the person pushing the chair doesn’t pay attention to)
I’ve had a complete stranger start pushing my chair at a local event and I told him several times that I’m fine and know what I’m doing (even surface and all) but he wouldn’t listen. When I finally got rid of him I showed off some by going back to the table with one dessert held between my knees and another in my hand and going through the crowd like a pro with the one hand juggle method while mum carried coffee for us both back to the table. I guess that shut some people up...
I would look for that guy and make him write a long letter of apology; we don't touch you and you don't touch us, so what makes you think you have the right to touch us. Honestly...
As a wheelchair user myself I can think of no acceptable excuse for a stranger to come up to a person's wheelchair or any other mobility equipment and forcefully try to move you out of their way.
Honestly a sign doesn't stop most people who would do this they already feel entitled to do what they want they dont read the sign
I'm so sorry this has happened to you. I've been a wheelchair user for around 12 years and in the last year started using a power chair. I don't know why but in that time I've only had about 4 instances of that type. People just seem to be nice and friendly and helpful where I live.
I love how they do an reanactment
Oh that art work is just lovely! So many people I would like to support on Instagram but Im just not willing to take the plunge of getting back into using the app.
Im sorry this happened to you. When you are already worked up and then something happens its hits as special kind of bad.
Also, as someone with no idea, can I ask: what is The Range?
You are right, the chair is extension of your body. Our dogs lay with their heads between the large and the front wheels for a cuddle and tap the wheels for a biscuit. As for the Abled Bodied and I am ashamed to say I was one, why do they stay 1m away from everyone else, then stand behind a wheelchair and breath down the back of my neck???? It's gross and dangerous pandemic wise. I want sign, "If I can pick up my dogs poo why can't can't you?" I'm sick of dodging other dogs poo when it's such a struggle for me to pick up after my dogs. Hanging over the side of the chair to get it. I'm sure people in my area think it's me not picking up or is it someone not picking up because I do the same route everyday and they can blame me. Ha!!! Sorry to ramble Mental health??? What!!?!!?? Don't have any!!!
Can you recommend any posture helping products for wheelchair users, I'm finding I tend to slouch in my chair ?
adjust the bucket and get a positionig cushion -> if it still isn't enough aim for a positioning system like the tarta back (I use it myself an are quite fond about the extra cushion for my hyperlordosis and the sides which are holding me in place). If it still isn't enough you can get a positioning system based on your body (they let you sit in a gellike seat and mold the cushion and back after your proportions).
I'm a electric wheelchair user with sensory hearing impairment it's a challenge every day to find places to go and be safe
I know this feeling: I’m student this happens pretty often to me people never do this because the weelchers are our legs you can’t touch the weelcher!
No, you're not being too sensitive. That kind of disrespect will upset just about anybody I think.
Not too long ago i was grocery shopping in my local supermarkt and a stranger pushed me away while i was reaching for pasta so he could get pasta for himself. I was so pissed off and got really mad at him(didt not yell or scream at him tho) but i told him off.
Staff that was nearby and helped me bcoz he got angry at me coz i was in his way🤔🤦♀️🤦♀️ i guess u cant fix stupid 🙄🙄 And all in the middle of covid-19.
Sorry you have had these experiences, I don’t think you are being to sensitive x
I need a power chair now, but when I used a manual chair, I really didn’t like it in medical settings when ‘care providers’ would just push my chair around the room to put me where they wanted me. Sometimes I would tell them I prefer to move myself. I usually found that this bothered them. I don’t mind bothering someone to maintain my personal space, but there were times that I wanted to keep on their good wide for various reasons.
I invite folks who can walk to imagine how they would like it if someone came up and started physically pushing them around. It is the same.
If you think someone may want or need help, go ahead and ask if they want help, and by all means if they say no, respect it.
People often rush to open or hold doors for me. This is not something I need and at times I get annoyed by it. But I try to give myself an attitude adjustment and rather thank them for wanting to help. Sometimes if I am closer to they door than they are I may thank them for their kindness and say that I can manage. If a person says they don’t want or need help, it is disrespectful to insist or do it anyway.
I was at an awards ceremony where I was being honored. I had a event staff member shove me out of the way when I didn't move fast enough for him. It was the first time I actually felt that my chair was a part of me.
You are not being sensitive at all. Please, don't let people stop you from going out and living/enjoying life.
I have had issues in the past with people moving me in my wheelchair. Including two different doctors! I want to get the spiked handle covers to prevent people from grabbing me. Im so sorry that it also happened to you. He was absolutely in the wrong in his actions.
So they actually sell products like that? Spiked handle products? I would think that would make matters WORSE! Because then you will find yourself stuck in a lot of lawsuits. Nowadays, People are looking for any reason to SUE someone over stupid stuff OR ANY little thing.
@@tinnybird1971 you have to search for them or make it yourself. It’s not like super sharp - think dog collars. Just enough to know not to touch. You do bring up a good point of people being sue happy. Right now I just rely on my family to be with me constantly. That makes me feel like a burden, especially when it’s one of my daughters.
@@-MrsG- Oh I see. But sorry you have to deal with bull headed people who invade your space & do that to you. But you give me an idea as far as making my own no touch devices for wheelchair handles. (Just in case) Knowing me I would probably put slime putty so it feels gross to people & they would let go of it quickly. Bet they won't touch it ever again. But that's only my idea. I know I can come up with more. But when I'm in my manual wheelchair and I'm out in public I always lock my wheelchair so that people don't come up touching and pushing me out of the way. Otherwise I'm always in my jazzy motorized wheelchair most of time. Usually around here though, Nobody bothers me or pushes me out of the way or anything like that. They always ask permission first.
@@tinnybird1971 isn’t it amazing the difference that being in a manual chair vs power hair makes? Love the idea about the slime on the handles, so creative!
Touching your wheelchair is no different than touching you. He essentially just shoved you out of his way. That is assault.
Get spikes put on the handles of your chair. I've seen wheelchair users sew little cloth covers with spikes on them that kinda look like elongated scrunchies. They can be easily removed but if anyone just tried to grab your chair it would be super uncomfortable. I will likely need a chair within the next few years due to declining mobility and I've thought of doing the same thing because I'm terrified of someone kidnapping me since it would be very easy to just grab my chair and push me. If I can find a shop that makes them I'll add the link to this comment!
This isn't exactly what I was talking about as these would be harder to remove, but this is the general idea! www.etsy.com/listing/768559885/spiked-faux-or-real-leather-wheelchair
Might be a bit of a pain as she has assistance to push her chair
Service dogs are one of the things people touch and interfere with the most depending on the breed. Get a doberman pinscher or a well muscled pit bull if you want an assistance dog no one will touch. I have a shepherd mobility dog and my friend who has a fiercer looking dog has less people try to interact. I can't go out without people trying to interfere with my medical equipment. Once I was nearly passed out on the ground and my dog was doing DPT on top of me and someone still tried to pet him while he was on me.
I had someone kick back of my wheelchair and it hurt my back. I have a Facebook public group called Disability hate crime, there's no respect these days for anyone. I think the man was so wrong, he could of gone passed there was so much space. Or gone down another lane.
I’m glad the petition has done so well and that the disabled bays by the ivy have been replaced
I'm so sorry that happened to you! They looked like a teenager, and we all know how rude they can be. That never happened to me, however, if it did, I would have backed up into them! 😂😂😂
2:40 Maybe that's obvious to someone who knows what The Range is.
I agree with you completely. That man should not have done what he did.
Your description reminded me of a similar experience, although that man didn't come as close. Years ago, I went to a fair of some kind. I saw some devices and I didn't think it would be a problem if I pressed a button or two on there (which would not have changed any settings anyway). I was startled by a man asking something like, "Is that allowed?" He sounded rather serious too.
I was on my armrest at the time, so I immediately stopped what I was doing and went off of my armrest. That's when that guy said he was just kidding. I remember thinking, "You really think that's funny...?"
With your anxiety, what happened to you must have felt worse than what happened to me. So, far be it from me to downplay that. However, in both our cases some guy thought he was being funny when he absolutely was not. I wish people would understand how we see our wheelchairs and account for what position we may be in!
You're completely right to be stressed about this situation, that is just terrible and unfunny behaviour
I have a sign on the back of my chair that says Drink coffee, do stupid things faster and with more energy. People think twice about touching my chair without my permission.
This is what a collapsible baton & pepper spray is for.
You're so awesome, love the British accent.
Put me in the category of not going out at all - and I still got coronavirus! My mum is whining at me about getting my groceries delivered - my choice, my decision, she has no idea how much easier it makes things, but in her mind "it would be good me".
Ik heb dat ook een keer gehad in de Hema Kreeg daarna ook nog een aai over mijn bol. Echt verschrikkelijk. Blijf met je poten van mij af. Ik zit dan wel op kinderen niveau. Maar blijf wel een volwassen.
seems no matter where you live in the world we all seem to have the same problems I'm also disabled and live in America I have the same issue of having someone messing with my wheelchair pretty much most of the time
I hate it when people grab my wheelchair without asking.
Other thing - In Australia, if you already have a dog, there are businesses that will train up your dog as an Assistance Dog. They still have to pass an access test. I not sure what's available in England.
My name is Jemma too (although with a J), I’m in an electric wheelchair, what happened to you was totally out of order!