Can we get a video covering how the colonization of space would play out in the next 150 years? This is a time frame where my son and your son will be alive and well to witness it happening and possibly us eith better technology
Next 150 years would be spent rebuilding from chaos caused by russian nuclear attacks on all their neighbours. We wouldn't really look up to the skies until 2200-2500's. Sorry, sci-fi and post apocalypse are different genres \/(-_-)\/
Past videos have been very thorough about locations, stationary and mobile structures (ships), and machine evolution. But nailing down near future decisions of humans? Science may not be the biggest wedge of that thought-pie. Don't get me wrong, it's more fun making 50 assumptions that paint a clearer picture. I'm hoping someday for a narrated flowchart of the steps towards a robust civilization in living permanently in space. But it needs to ignore alternate scenarios to stay on track
@@metstribelindo_mg7818 She’s the person asking everyone’s questions during the live streams, but that’s only one of the reasons she is inspiring. She has a very successful career and is a good roll model for young women.
@pyropulse she’s an Ohio state representative… I hope eventually you can process the hurt you feel. It’s not fun to be used in a relationship and I get the sense you feel like you were. It’s not appropriate behavior to scream into the comment section though.
Another masterpiece by the venerable Mr. Arthur. For a man with a claimed speech impediment, you haven't had as much as a single hesitation, pause, ahem or mumble in any of your dictations. I'd challenge anyone to do similar as flawlessly. Truly remarkable contributions to the world's body of knowledge. Keep the good work up, Sir, I hope to hear many more musings from you and your team.
I have a speech impediment. They don’t always involve stuttering over words. They often involve trouble pronouncing words or pronouncing them differently. His accent and the way he pronounces some words seems to suggest that kind of speech impediment.
I think one of the reasons why people really like talking about the moon is because it feels like a goal we can accomplish within our lifetime. Not a moon city but Definitely some sort permanent moon colony could be possible within the next 50-100 years.
If a colony requires kids born there it may never happen if gravity is too low for mammals. Of it only means constant occupation then we can get there within a decade.
Great episode, Cool Worlds and Anton are both great channels as well was nice to see the shout-out. Was near heartbroken when I heard of Anton's loss, especially in light of the war situation. Can't imagine the difficulty he must be going thru. What I do know is, Anton is very much "a wonderful person" and it legit hurts to see such a wonderful person deal with such terrible things.
@@Zetalpa187 I almost want to know what they said, but the content of your reply makes me think it's not something that we need to have preserved or repeated.
@@kaminachos5129 well, having them removed certainly does leave some questions I bet lol I'll describe this way: it was just some asshole making a completely unrelated vitriolic political statement. Which normally, whatever that's old hat for comment sections. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone use my comment regarding Anton's loss to make any such statements. I don't care if what was said is even true or not, I ain't the one letting that slide. And it's probably for the best Isaac or whoever got rid of those comments and hopefully banned them or something, because if they had replied back I'd have redefined the words "brute force" for Isaac lol
@@kaminachos5129 it's shameful at best. Once upon a time things like that were the exception, but are now commonplace. SFIA has always given some hope that humanity could have an amazing future, then some shit bag like that comes along and reminds me we're stuck with these people likely forever.
I remember hearing the news about Anton's son and mentioning it in the Discord (someone right after me actually dropped the link, wasn't sure it was my place personally). But the reaction of the community to that news, and the outpouring of support that was given, tell me this is one of the best communities on TH-cam.
"It gets dark for two weeks in a row, then there's two weeks of daylight. Not many people will want to live under those conditions" - So we need to send Finns and Sami to the moon colony? ...Imagining moon reindeer that can jump really high and Finns zooming around in rally cars.
HAHAHA! That and some of our Alaskan and Innuit friends. The image in my head of a Scandanavian Flick in a moon buggy still has me smiling as I type this.
From modest beginnings out of your own home in Ohio, I have been with you for years, you have built, I believe one of the most significant series on the future of humankind. There is nothing else like it anywhere. You have a completely unique product. I think this is the one series I could not do without. Thank you Isaac for sharing your visions with us.
Can we have an episode dedicated solely to Multiverse colonisation? That would be amazing and crazy to comprehend.. Isaac, your channel is very inspiring!
Guys, we aren't going to colonize the multiverse.... We are but humans and only limited ability to travel. We aren't even going to be able to move beyond this galaxy, best case scenario
@@edthoreum7625 A portal opens up and a man with a brief case steps out. "Time? Is it really that time again? It seems as if, you only just paid your taxes..."
@@nominus1138 neither of us have any idea of what will be possible in the far future, so saying that we will never be able to go any further than our own galaxy is just as bad as saying we will definitely colonize many many different universes in the multiverses
@@finny9125 the amount of energy it would take to be able to move to the farthest reaches of the observable universe is massive, so massive that there's not enough available mass and energy to satisfy it. Multiverse? Talk to be once we determine if we can successfully colonize the moon or Mars. Ganymede. Titan. We will be lucky to colonize another body in our own solar system. Astronomically Lucky to be able to colonize outside our solar system. Not totally impossible, but pretty close to that. The energy required to move those distances in a short timespan does not exist in our grasp.
I absolutely cannot get enough of these solar system colonization/development videos. It makes me so excited to think what our species will look like in a few hundred years (assuming it's not extinct).
When it comes to sci-fi building, pretty much every work has an outpost or colony be built out of steel and the interiors are essentially all metal, like they're built with cargo ship construction techniques. No concrete, tilework, linoleum, wood paneling or the sort, just bare metal or some fabric padding and if you're really going for luxury, carpeted floors. Soviet nuclear subs are more luxurious in comparison. I'm pretty sure a future moon colony would use locally sourced "concrete" or sintered 3D-printed regolith materials for bulk construction, metals for reinforcement and polymers for ergonomics.
Concrete is alredy "3d prinred" in its original ancient form. Well, cast, but whatever, has the same flexibility and is vastly more efficient than a layer by layer printerhead technique. The real question is how do we omit the need for lime, and create a concrete mixture thats sourced locally on the moon, and doesnt need an atmosphear with CO2 in it to set.
15:07 seems Issac forgot, while the moon doesn't have Earthquakes, it does have Moonquakes, granted not due to tectonic plates like Earth, but instead because of the contractions and relaxing of different parts of the Moon as it orbits the Earth. And before you ask; why doesn't the same happen to the Earth, simple: we have lots of water that takes the brunt of it and so we instead have the tides...
I suspect we still have contractions and expansions of rock and magma on Earth due to tidal forces, but I would guess those effects are just much less noticeable due to the lower mass of the moon (compared to Earth) and all of the other tectonic activity.
@@atk05003 I'm not a scientist but I would guess that Earth's would be from orbiting the Sun and so are on a yearly cycle while the Moon's would be on a monthly cycle, from orbiting the Earth.
@@spectre111 The tidal expansion and contraction rhythm is due to the Earth's rotation. That's why the high tide/low tide cycle happens almost twice a day. (It's slightly less than twice a day because the Moon orbits around the Earth in the same direction as the Earth's spin.) Based on what little I know about ocean tides and how gravity works, I suspect the tidal effects from the Moon are more significant than those from the Sun, because the Moon is much closer. That means the gravitational influence of the Moon drops off more (as a percentage) across the Earth's diameter than the Sun's influence drops off.
There is supposed to be a correlation between earthquake frequency and the phase of the moon in that there are more earthquakes when there is a full moon though,
@@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704 I've never heard about the earthquake correlation. I know that tides are more extreme during full moon and new moon, because the tidal forces from the Sun and Moon add up when they are in a line with the Earth.
I'm attempting (and failing, but that's ok) to write a book about life on a galactic shell world as you mentioned in your video about shell worlds because of you. Thanks for your contribution to my imagination.
I recently saw an idea involving building a belt of solar panels all the way around the moon at the equator, and building further north / south from there as desired. As half the moon is always in sunlight, you'd have a TON of power at your disposal. Perfect for subsurface habitats, heavy industry, or even exporting power via laser. Just some quick and dirty math showed you could probably get petawatts of production doing something like that assuming 30% efficiency panels.
But how much could we get allocating those resources to something else? Peta watts of production sound all nice on paper, but in the realm of reality the investment would be an unimaginable fortune.
One future "industry" on the Moon I rarely hear mentioned os retirement communities. While we know that living in microgravity is harmful to human health, we really don't know the effects of low gravity such as the 1/6th G on the Moon. In my favorite novel, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Robert Heinlein posited that after a certain amount of time on the Moon people couldn't return to living on Earth. While it is likely humans would find it difficult to return to 1 G, that wouldn't be a problem for a person intending to remain on the moon. Elderly people with various ailments that require canes, walkers, and wheelchairs might find it possible to live much more comfortable active lives weighing only 1/6th of what they weigh on Earth. Like everything else connected to the private space industries, the wealthy will be the first to take advantage. A home on the Moon will certainly cost more than a home in the Villages. But like everything else the costs will come down over time. Of course, the stress of getting to the Moon might be hard on the elderly, at least so long as it requires a rocket launch. But once the get a space elevator built to get people to geostationary orbit, the Moon will become the new Florida.
Reminds me of a story called Deathworlders Humanity colonizes a planet with about 70ish percent Earth’s surface gravity, and while the major cities have large municipal artificial gravity generators to maintain Earth standard, the outskirts and rural areas don’t, and most of that is stated to be retirement communities, because the lower gravity makes things like aching bones and arthritis more manageable
By the time we build a space elevator(the least efficient lowest throughput launch megastructure) it's doubtful we'd have any old people or at the very least visibly & biologically/medically infirm people. also on earth a launch loop is way easier to build, probably way nearer term, & just all around better in every way
I love the channel and I think that if more people watched it it would inspire them toward a better future! I thought the JAXA conference was great too
I finally understand Coruscant from Star Wars. I had a hard time picturing piling up buildings all over the world, and where you would get the extra material from. You just hollow it out! Brilliant!
Wouldn't increasing the Moon's gravity have some pretty major impacts on Earth? Like, I'd assume the tides would get much more extreme if the Moon had the same gravity as Earth, and I don't know enough to guess about specifics, but I feel like it would also impact our rotation
Yeah, when contemplating increasing the gravity of the Moon, one has to think about how it would affect the Earth gravitationally. Rather the raising the Moon's gravity across the board, it would make more sense to have rotating 'bowls' to supplement lunar gravity in the habitats. Plus, lower gravity might be better for some people. Not to mention the recreational opportunities afforded by low gravity and the fact that it would be easier to launch rockets from lunar gravity.
He said in the video that if you increase the mass of the moon you need to move it further out from the earth. You won't have tidal problems if it's further away.
If you had enough time, infrastructure, and sociopolitical stability to get it that way, I feel like it's extremely unlikely that there won't also be robust infrastructure to safely and affordably move out and go somewhere less crowded.
Another fine video presentation. I thoroughly enjoy each and every one, not only as a learning experience but as quite entertaining as well. Thank-you!!!
i like imagining we'll eventually somewhat decolonize the earth and move a large amount of people to the moon and other habs. then use the earth as a massive farm/zoo
@@nikkity5491 Who says that the zoos will house animals? At that point in time it might as well be all obsolete versions of genetically enhanced humans and non-cyborgs.
I enjoy it BUT: his myopic belief that everything will just get better and better as the same people that ruined this world and run Amazon distribution centers with employees pissing in bottles makes it all just a bit too “won’t it be great” as we march towards a reality that looks like the original Total Recall; paying for everything, even the air your kids breath and any attempt at revolution results in the rich venting all of your air into somewhere that isn’t on strike. He misses all of the actual drawbacks and subsequently sounds well educated but poorly informed.
@28:55 -ish you apologize for including too much math. But like, I would LOVE more videos, everyone once in a while, that cover more of the math involved. It was one of the things I enjoyed about your earlier content (after I found you and went through the back catalogue)
You should be knighted for the energy and attention to detail you put into these series. I’ve learnt so much and have had such a great insight into topics I never knew I’d be fascinated by. Sir Isaac Arthur .. so fitting..
Question: Would increasing the weight of the moon effect the orbit of the earth and moon and their relationship with the sun. Isn't there a balance of the order of the planets and their moons?
There would be affects, but much less than the tidal effects on Earth due to the distance involved. I haven't followed Isaac's advice on Skillshare classes yet, so I can't calculate the effects off hand, but I would think the mass would have to change by orders of magnitude before we would have to worry about nudging things further from the Sun to compensate.
@@paulrhome6164 do you believe that by whatever method to increase the amount of gravity on the moon could have an effect on the orbit of the moon around the earth and the earth around the sun. The solar system has a balance and changing gravitational force on any planet or moon would possibly change the orbit of the moon around the earth as well as the tides of the oceans.
@@peacepoet1947 He mentioned the tidal effects and the possible need to correct for them. But just as the much larger distance from the Sun makes its gravity much less of a factor in Earth's tides than the moon is, it would take a much larger proportional increase in mass, especially since we're just talking about increasing the Moon, for the Earth/Moon system's orbit around the Sun to be affected to any similar degree.
@@peacepoet1947 you would have to adjust the distance from earth the moon is if you wanted to maintain the tidal forces. The impact on the whole solar system would likely be negligible. Think about it, there have been tim a every single planet was lined up in a row and all's still well
@@paulrhome6164 I'm just asking what type of obital changes would be happening should we increase the theoretical weight and mass of the moon? I did watch the video. I threw in the tides to add to the possible process what would happen "if"?
Not sure whether we'd want to increase the moons gravity, isn't having a lower escape velocity one of the reasons to use it as a base in the first place?
Dome living. The way i see it you would have layers like stated. If i would build one, i would start with two layers in the dome. The external and internal dome to allow for redundancy, reduced stress, and to alert for a breach. The atmosphere between the two domes would be somewhere between vacuum and the pressure of the internal dome. That way if there is a breach, external or internal, it would be easier to detect. The structures inside, such as buildings, will be capable of becoming air tight. Their would be underground tunnels that are also act as an emergency shelter and unseen cargo movement. I'm sure Isaac Arthur talked about this and that's where these 'ideas' are from.
A big enough dome will lose pressure extremely slowly. At least to bolides that are small enough not to have a kiloton class cratering energy anyway. I think the leak detection would be done best with external infrared cameras. Leaks should appear as plumes of warm gas jetting off the surface like a tea kettle.
You could easily cut the travel time through the gravity tunnels by electromagnetic acceleration and regenerative braking. The efficiency wouldn't be bad either.
The biggest real unknown is how tolerant the human body (especially developing embryos) is to long term low gravity; we know microgravity is bad, and full earth gravity is good, but we don't really know much beyond that; is 1/100th of a G enough? Or does it need to be at least 0.99g to avoid problems? This will affect how big a problem it is to make habitants for long term human colonisation; if we are fine with no additional gravity, long term operation on the moon is much easier. If we need extra gravity to avoid health/reproductive problems, it means rotating habitants on the moon, which is doable but a higher barrier to startup.
We have spent decades in several different space stations doing biology and medical experiments studying how badly zero g screws with Earth biology. Maybe next space station we could get some spin to start investigating the low gravity range?
@@Ching2x770 one idea along those lines is to have babies conceived, born and raised in orbit. Then come down when its safe, possibly very young, possibly as an adult. We don’t know
@@jaylewis9876 we need to teather the ISS to another station full of pregnant pigs and spin them to 1/3 g or something. I'm asking Elon to get on this.
Thank you so much for your video! I love your refreshing, polite and optimistic tone. I think your mixture of possible with science and imagination adds so much and is so valuable! thank you. Not sure if anyone will read this but if we had that many people on the moon we could have a mixture of industry and recreation, habitable micro environments that are like pocket historical periods or theme park type things that we could create. There is no limit with that type of energy and resource transformation.
I thought it was wild learning that all 7 other planets would just fill the space between earth and the moon... it's bigger and farther than I gave it credit... also using the moon for a sub station to the rest of our solar system is essential imo!
UGH! Would kill for a podcast or something with Isaac and David Kipping together!!!! They could narrate grass growing or paint drying, and I would be enthralled for hours at a time!!!
I understand the obsession with Mars (somewhat) but I feel like we should focus on orbital infrastructure, trans-lunar space and of course, the moon. Once we have a good starting point in space that’s close to home, then we can spread throughout the solar system in mass.
yeah mars colonization is dumb & unnecessary. basically a prestige project just because we can. Lunar & orbital infrastructure is the linchpin for all further colonization & makes it all practical
I support limited Mars colonization but compared to the solar system, trans-lunar space is our backyard. Trial and error in regards to everything would be easier here then millions of miles away from home. Once we have some practical experience with living in space, then we can expand outwards.
I remember reading a science fiction story set on the Moon. It was “the opposite” of the Earth. The richest people on Earth who lived in penthouses on tops of skyscrapers, on the Moon, the richest people lived deep underground in penthouses, safely away from radiation above.
Reminds me of post 9/11 Manhattan. The rich executives fled the top floors of skycrapers. Ground floor became the hot office space. Guess the secretaries and jr partners got the offices w/view.
Times are tremendously messed up; I hope for that utopian future that we're capable of as a race, but with the current system we just can't go that direction. Appreciate the well wishes for the community, I hope you're managing your stress and everything in a healthy way Isaac.
Why does that look like my 8th grade science project back in 1968? I did get an honorable mention at the International Science Fair in Canada that year. Love your stuff. Keep up the good work.
The Moon has a surface area comparable to the Americas. So it could comfortably support an equivalent population without ridiculous crowding. The primary constraint would be water ... imported from Europa.
Only one woman in the group photo -- have MUCH work to do to tap half the population brains. Courage and conviction, working to a better world - THANK YOU !!!
Thanks for another one I can’t wait to hear! Isaac, my book is available on Audible, Sentence by Daniel Genis. I’m the narrator too, so you’d be hearing me read my own work…. Take care!
@orkhaa Isaac sounds like he supports science and progress to me. Also, he doesn’t employ faith in his politics, considering whom he supports- and how would you know anyway? If I was Isaac, I’d erase your comment and ban you from the show, as you sound like the exact narrow-minded bigot you accuse him of being…
Thank you for applying some mathematics to the episode. I recently started going to college again at 40 years old and I can't say Algebra has been my favorite course. However, I'm more patient now and giving it my best!
Wouldn't changing the moon's gravity have an affect on how it interacts with Earth? Perhaps even affecting its orbit? Seems like it would definitely have an affect on Earth's tides...🤔 Oh, nevermind...you addressed that. I should have known you wouldn't leave that out.
Easy mode would be to add 200 km diameter solenoids generating magnetic fields on each pole creating a global magnetosphere and/or a few 20 km ones on major city locations. creating local magnetospheres. Add a few 2 km tracked centrifuges at each population center. These allows a few hours at 1 g for gym, dining, bathing spars etc. "Re-set the bone growth and blood pressure with your daily gravity fix". Everything else is enclosed archology, domes and lava tubes with artificial light. Power sats, fission, fusion, surface or roof top solar with diverse storage are all option. On the moon the distances are low enough for the night side to be powered by day side solar.
On the topic of doming over the whole moon, (3:22) I don't think that would be as hard as it initially sounds. Assuming you want a similar atmospheric pressure as on earth under the dome (above would obviously be zero), that would give the dome enough lift to carry a 10 meter layer of water, or 60 meters on the moon! Thus, the main problem with doming over the moon would be to hold the dome down, not holding it up! As long as the ocean that covers the initial settlements is under 55 meters deep (the average depth of the Baltic Sea), I can't really see them getting any problems (except for corrosion and barnacle growth). I really think that the whole moon would be domed over before we started raising it's gravity, just on account of how much easier it is. I wonder how far you'd need to extend the atmosphere to where it's providing just enough lift for a good strong, low-leakage plastic foil (a 1000th to a 10000th of earth's pressure). If my intuition that it scales a good bit worse than linear is right, it would be way more than 6 times as tall as earth's atmosphere.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom That's the carrying power of 1 atmosphere of pressure (in earth's gravity). I don't know how it would be useful, except that you could use the dome to suspend lots of structures that engineers would struggle to make stand up on earth.
@@Pystro But you don't need to carry that load on a dome. You just need to contain 15 psi of pressure and that can be done with very thin and light materials.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Exactly, the strength of the dome itself isn't the issue. But the pressure would be strong enough to lift the dome off as a whole if you don't tie it down at regular intervals. Think about the fact that hurricanes (which only reach pressure differences of a small fraction of earth's atmosphere can lift off shingle-covered roofs when blowing at them from the side, and then imagine what blowing directly at the underside of a dome with a full atmosphere of pressure would do. Absolute pressures are so much stronger than the pressure differences we are used to from wind, balloons or drag.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Think of car tires. They are at similar pressures as our atmosphere. You might think that they are just round objects holding themselves in shape, but the side walls of the tire are tying it down where the rubber connects to the rims. And the distance between the tie down points there is 5 inches or so.
Just the other day, I was listening to Space-Audio's Voyager recordings, and the clang from instrument interference went from an occasional gong to sounding a lot like the intro for this episode by Neptune. It's just missing the random bursts of fast-tempo jitter.
It is always a welcome break to tune in to SFIA for some optimistic and scientifically valid views of our potential future rather than be bombarded with all of the doom and gloom political BS infecting the rest of the internet.
Once an established city on the moon it would most likely to become a way station to help terraform other planets first. A staging ground, and mining ground, to utilize resources to terraform Mars and Venus. Mined for fuel and resources to get to Mars. Other materials mined could be stockpiled and then sent to Venus to help to neutralize Venus atmosphere.
I have a question that might be quite silly, and also may or may not have already been covered as I have yet to watch the relevant video. To put it vaguely and generally, what if a world, terraformed or otherwise but likely terraformed, utilized a planetary shield for atmospheric pressurization purposes? It’s essentially the moon dome idea taken a step or few further. It’d probably be more trouble than it’s worth, at least for earth like atmospheres, but it is an interesting concept.
That's called paraterraforming, the structure as a whole is ofyen referred to as a world house, has been mentioned in many videos, is less destructive, & is orders of magnitude easier than traditional terraforming.
@@virutech32 ok forgive me if I’m mistaken here but when I looked up a definition of the term paraterraforming it seemed to refer to mere individual habitation domes, which isn’t what I’m talking about. I was talking about one that encircled/encompassed an entire planet, not just a portion of it. Now as stated previously I have not seen the relevant videos that have been made on the topic, and wouldn’t have known that this was mentioned in other videos.
@@antonberkbigler5759 Paraterraforming isn't specific or partial to separated domes. That's just one way to do it. The core idea is to hab up the surface of the planet to not have to deal with modifying whole atmospheres & regolith. What's nice is that you can do it piecemeal which is why it's always shown as separate domes cuz they aren't finished habbing the whole planet. Also by the by i dont think it's ever been covered specifically. Iv just heard im mention it separately in a lot of vids
@@virutech32 yeah I’m talking about something specific here though, not a broader concept. I am specifically talking about a singular spheroid that encompasses an entire planetoid for the specific and explicit purpose of keeping in an atmosphere, more specifically at a specific atmospheric pressure. This is what I am insularly talking and asking about, and nothing else whatsoever. I do genuinely appreciate and thank you for your replies but I am asking about this one specific idea and no other. I am not talking about multiple small domes or even one big dome, I’m not talking about domes at all because those are only hemispheres and not full globes. The whole sky walled off in a way you can’t walk to an edge, only through relative vertical movement can you reach the “edge”, which is really just the surface/face of the snow globe encompassing an entire planet or moon, wether it be a forcefield or some sort of super material. It is a structure enclosing an entire world, entirely and completely. I recognize that my wording is likely highly hostile and I ask that can you please disregard perceived hostilities, I am preagitated due to TH-cam not letting me edit a comment I just made on a different video, meaning I have to copy paste it in a new comment while deleting the old one, just for a spelling error and adding one new word. I once again thank you for introducing me to the term of paraterraforming, even if it wasn’t specifically and exactly what I was looking for.
One question probably nonsense but I'm curious, I remember being told years ago that lunar dust isn't like ours or even Mars which is weathered even on a microscopic scale? Whereas moon dust is sharp,so Sharp that it wore the Apollo crews space boots ect down and that if they had have stayed much longer would have destroyed their suits ect? So even if we lived underground in pressured environments,mining ect wouldn't breathing that lunar dust in cause us at least deadly lung damage? Or destroy our skin. I guess I'm asking forget the physics or science of colonising the moon could we live there without being in permanent protective suits even under pressured domes or in tunnels ect? How do we overcome this deadly microscopic dust sharp as needles? T
About the increased gravity scenario, I'd argue that similar results could be achieved by manipulating dark matter as opposed to creating black holes. I recall that from a video of yours about the potential dark matter based technologies.
Need a scyfy series that deals with upward and outward bound and becoming an interplanetary species with fully developed earth and the moon. Awesome video
Hi Issac. Great video as always. Couple of thoughts: firstly regarding the artificial black hole or increasing the mass of the moon. While increasing the gravity for the colonists of the moon it would also have a greater pull on earth than the moon currently has. This would drastically change the tides and potentially earths rotation which the moon stabilises thereby devastating earth own environment. Earths days could potentially be longer as our spin would slow and our atmosphere could bulge toward the moon. Second thought is regarding the hole through the centre of a planet. Always struggled with this as concept. Ignoring the mining issues, I struggle with how it would be efficient as you would fall from one end to the centre but to my mind isn’t it then a climb from the centre to the other end? Effectively the fall is energy free but the climb is all energy use so it’s not an energy free journey-particularly to escape the high gravity at the core. Ignoring the effort to build it, it still seems more efficient to travel at the surface. Anyway it does make me think of potential issues between the planets and moon when they become colonised. Not so much war but economics and socially. Think this is covered briefly in the first book of The Rendezvous with Rama series. Personally I feel like the moons low gravity is it’s strength as it is easy to launch space craft from. It could become a vast space port and quite industrial- you don’t need to worry about co2 and green houses gases if there isn’t an atmosphere! Maybe all industry shifts to the moon with only finished good being sent to earth and the only real structures on the moon are the ports and mega factories that are operated by minimal amount of humans
That's why I love this channel. Issac doesn't stop and ask "should we?" He skips right to "could we.."
Hmmm that might be what all of us should do
Ain't that why the dininos escaped and started eating people tho :)
@@statinskill but you don't have an agenda, right?
@@meatmech I am not looking to make you homosexual or lure you into some harmful diet, if that is what you are getting at.
@@statinskill the problem in that argument is that You or I could commit murder, but should we
Can we get a video covering how the colonization of space would play out in the next 150 years? This is a time frame where my son and your son will be alive and well to witness it happening and possibly us eith better technology
See the upwards bound series in his playlist!
Next 150 years would be spent rebuilding from chaos caused by russian nuclear attacks on all their neighbours. We wouldn't really look up to the skies until 2200-2500's.
Sorry, sci-fi and post apocalypse are different genres \/(-_-)\/
Past videos have been very thorough about locations, stationary and mobile structures (ships), and machine evolution. But nailing down near future decisions of humans? Science may not be the biggest wedge of that thought-pie. Don't get me wrong, it's more fun making 50 assumptions that paint a clearer picture. I'm hoping someday for a narrated flowchart of the steps towards a robust civilization in living permanently in space. But it needs to ignore alternate scenarios to stay on track
@@TheArklyte I'm more worried about american nuclear attacks on the rest of the world honestly, considering where the country is headed.
@@AndrewManook calm down.
You and your wife have inspired so many people to follow there dreams and I respect you both a lot for what you do.
Wait his wife makes videos too , I need link too that's cool
@@metstribelindo_mg7818 She’s the person asking everyone’s questions during the live streams, but that’s only one of the reasons she is inspiring. She has a very successful career and is a good roll model for young women.
@pyropulse she’s an Ohio state representative…
I hope eventually you can process the hurt you feel. It’s not fun to be used in a relationship and I get the sense you feel like you were.
It’s not appropriate behavior to scream into the comment section though.
@pyropulse Take it easy on the Inceldom. Maybe if you washed your ass regularly, you'd have a wife like Issac.
@pyropulse You need to go touch grass. You've been inside mommy's basement too long. Go live a little.
Another masterpiece by the venerable Mr. Arthur. For a man with a claimed speech impediment, you haven't had as much as a single hesitation, pause, ahem or mumble in any of your dictations. I'd challenge anyone to do similar as flawlessly. Truly remarkable contributions to the world's body of knowledge. Keep the good work up, Sir, I hope to hear many more musings from you and your team.
I have a speech impediment. They don’t always involve stuttering over words. They often involve trouble pronouncing words or pronouncing them differently. His accent and the way he pronounces some words seems to suggest that kind of speech impediment.
I think one of the reasons why people really like talking about the moon is because it feels like a goal we can accomplish within our lifetime. Not a moon city but Definitely some sort permanent moon colony could be possible within the next 50-100 years.
We could definitely have a moon city in 50 years easy. That is if there was enough will
If a colony requires kids born there it may never happen if gravity is too low for mammals. Of it only means constant occupation then we can get there within a decade.
@@jaylewis9876 we can use spin gravity to simulate Earth's gravity if it was necessary for reproduction.
@@garethbaus5471 You just live in a huge, spinning maternity city for 2 years. Or possibly a cislunar or lagrange transfer station.
Great episode, Cool Worlds and Anton are both great channels as well was nice to see the shout-out. Was near heartbroken when I heard of Anton's loss, especially in light of the war situation. Can't imagine the difficulty he must be going thru. What I do know is, Anton is very much "a wonderful person" and it legit hurts to see such a wonderful person deal with such terrible things.
sorry for the language big homie, my 11 bravo shows sometimes lol
@@Zetalpa187 I almost want to know what they said, but the content of your reply makes me think it's not something that we need to have preserved or repeated.
@@kaminachos5129 well, having them removed certainly does leave some questions I bet lol
I'll describe this way: it was just some asshole making a completely unrelated vitriolic political statement.
Which normally, whatever that's old hat for comment sections. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let someone use my comment regarding Anton's loss to make any such statements. I don't care if what was said is even true or not, I ain't the one letting that slide. And it's probably for the best Isaac or whoever got rid of those comments and hopefully banned them or something, because if they had replied back I'd have redefined the words "brute force" for Isaac lol
@@Zetalpa187 totally agree. No matter what the reason it is despicable to use someones loss to springboard your agenda.
@@kaminachos5129 it's shameful at best. Once upon a time things like that were the exception, but are now commonplace. SFIA has always given some hope that humanity could have an amazing future, then some shit bag like that comes along and reminds me we're stuck with these people likely forever.
I remember hearing the news about Anton's son and mentioning it in the Discord (someone right after me actually dropped the link, wasn't sure it was my place personally). But the reaction of the community to that news, and the outpouring of support that was given, tell me this is one of the best communities on TH-cam.
"It gets dark for two weeks in a row, then there's two weeks of daylight. Not many people will want to live under those conditions" - So we need to send Finns and Sami to the moon colony?
...Imagining moon reindeer that can jump really high and Finns zooming around in rally cars.
The true Santa's Workshop?
HAHAHA! That and some of our Alaskan and Innuit friends. The image in my head of a Scandanavian Flick in a moon buggy still has me smiling as I type this.
As a finn I approve this message
Anton is really a wonderful person. Lot of thoughts for him and his family 🌙🌠
Arthur is the kinda of guy who make you feel confident about anything even you don’t the project could be successful.
Not as if people going to walk outside they can make the interior to copy the day time and night rime
From modest beginnings out of your own home in Ohio, I have been with you for years, you have built, I believe one of the most significant series on the future of humankind. There is nothing else like it anywhere. You have a completely unique product. I think this is the one series I could not do without. Thank you Isaac for sharing your visions with us.
Can we have an episode dedicated solely to Multiverse colonisation? That would be amazing and crazy to comprehend..
Isaac, your channel is very inspiring!
A total escape from recession, inflation, taxes, wars, left, right, center ,,,
Thank you sir isaac!
Guys, we aren't going to colonize the multiverse.... We are but humans and only limited ability to travel. We aren't even going to be able to move beyond this galaxy, best case scenario
@@edthoreum7625 A portal opens up and a man with a brief case steps out. "Time? Is it really that time again? It seems as if, you only just paid your taxes..."
@@nominus1138 neither of us have any idea of what will be possible in the far future, so saying that we will never be able to go any further than our own galaxy is just as bad as saying we will definitely colonize many many different universes in the multiverses
@@finny9125 the amount of energy it would take to be able to move to the farthest reaches of the observable universe is massive, so massive that there's not enough available mass and energy to satisfy it. Multiverse? Talk to be once we determine if we can successfully colonize the moon or Mars. Ganymede. Titan. We will be lucky to colonize another body in our own solar system. Astronomically Lucky to be able to colonize outside our solar system. Not totally impossible, but pretty close to that. The energy required to move those distances in a short timespan does not exist in our grasp.
I absolutely cannot get enough of these solar system colonization/development videos. It makes me so excited to think what our species will look like in a few hundred years (assuming it's not extinct).
@orkhaa stop spamming the comments you troll
When it comes to sci-fi building, pretty much every work has an outpost or colony be built out of steel and the interiors are essentially all metal, like they're built with cargo ship construction techniques. No concrete, tilework, linoleum, wood paneling or the sort, just bare metal or some fabric padding and if you're really going for luxury, carpeted floors.
Soviet nuclear subs are more luxurious in comparison.
I'm pretty sure a future moon colony would use locally sourced "concrete" or sintered 3D-printed regolith materials for bulk construction, metals for reinforcement and polymers for ergonomics.
Concrete is alredy "3d prinred" in its original ancient form. Well, cast, but whatever, has the same flexibility and is vastly more efficient than a layer by layer printerhead technique.
The real question is how do we omit the need for lime, and create a concrete mixture thats sourced locally on the moon, and doesnt need an atmosphear with CO2 in it to set.
15:07 seems Issac forgot, while the moon doesn't have Earthquakes, it does have Moonquakes, granted not due to tectonic plates like Earth, but instead because of the contractions and relaxing of different parts of the Moon as it orbits the Earth.
And before you ask; why doesn't the same happen to the Earth, simple: we have lots of water that takes the brunt of it and so we instead have the tides...
I suspect we still have contractions and expansions of rock and magma on Earth due to tidal forces, but I would guess those effects are just much less noticeable due to the lower mass of the moon (compared to Earth) and all of the other tectonic activity.
@@atk05003 I'm not a scientist but I would guess that Earth's would be from orbiting the Sun and so are on a yearly cycle while the Moon's would be on a monthly cycle, from orbiting the Earth.
@@spectre111 The tidal expansion and contraction rhythm is due to the Earth's rotation. That's why the high tide/low tide cycle happens almost twice a day. (It's slightly less than twice a day because the Moon orbits around the Earth in the same direction as the Earth's spin.)
Based on what little I know about ocean tides and how gravity works, I suspect the tidal effects from the Moon are more significant than those from the Sun, because the Moon is much closer. That means the gravitational influence of the Moon drops off more (as a percentage) across the Earth's diameter than the Sun's influence drops off.
There is supposed to be a correlation between earthquake frequency and the phase of the moon in that there are more earthquakes when there is a full moon though,
@@somesortofdeliciousbiscuit3704 I've never heard about the earthquake correlation. I know that tides are more extreme during full moon and new moon, because the tidal forces from the Sun and Moon add up when they are in a line with the Earth.
I'm attempting (and failing, but that's ok) to write a book about life on a galactic shell world as you mentioned in your video about shell worlds because of you. Thanks for your contribution to my imagination.
Honestly the coolest channel on TH-cam
Loved the show and loved the message of optimism at the end.
I recently saw an idea involving building a belt of solar panels all the way around the moon at the equator, and building further north / south from there as desired. As half the moon is always in sunlight, you'd have a TON of power at your disposal. Perfect for subsurface habitats, heavy industry, or even exporting power via laser. Just some quick and dirty math showed you could probably get petawatts of production doing something like that assuming 30% efficiency panels.
But how much could we get allocating those resources to something else? Peta watts of production sound all nice on paper, but in the realm of reality the investment would be an unimaginable fortune.
Its just crazy how much quality content this channel has put out over the years.
The idea of splitting up the moon to create a trillion interstellar spaceships put the theme for Space: 1999 into my head. 😁
One future "industry" on the Moon I rarely hear mentioned os retirement communities. While we know that living in microgravity is harmful to human health, we really don't know the effects of low gravity such as the 1/6th G on the Moon. In my favorite novel, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, Robert Heinlein posited that after a certain amount of time on the Moon people couldn't return to living on Earth. While it is likely humans would find it difficult to return to 1 G, that wouldn't be a problem for a person intending to remain on the moon. Elderly people with various ailments that require canes, walkers, and wheelchairs might find it possible to live much more comfortable active lives weighing only 1/6th of what they weigh on Earth. Like everything else connected to the private space industries, the wealthy will be the first to take advantage. A home on the Moon will certainly cost more than a home in the Villages. But like everything else the costs will come down over time. Of course, the stress of getting to the Moon might be hard on the elderly, at least so long as it requires a rocket launch. But once the get a space elevator built to get people to geostationary orbit, the Moon will become the new Florida.
That is something to think about.
Reminds me of a story called Deathworlders
Humanity colonizes a planet with about 70ish percent Earth’s surface gravity, and while the major cities have large municipal artificial gravity generators to maintain Earth standard, the outskirts and rural areas don’t, and most of that is stated to be retirement communities, because the lower gravity makes things like aching bones and arthritis more manageable
This concept is explored in 3001 by Clarke
By the time we build a space elevator(the least efficient lowest throughput launch megastructure) it's doubtful we'd have any old people or at the very least visibly & biologically/medically infirm people.
also on earth a launch loop is way easier to build, probably way nearer term, & just all around better in every way
Space elevators are extremely unpractical. A rotovator would be better.
I love the channel and I think that if more people watched it it would inspire them toward a better future! I thought the JAXA conference was great too
Thanks Ryan!
Can we all give huge appreciation to the creator for not spamming these videos with ads??
I finally understand Coruscant from Star Wars. I had a hard time picturing piling up buildings all over the world, and where you would get the extra material from. You just hollow it out! Brilliant!
Wouldn't increasing the Moon's gravity have some pretty major impacts on Earth? Like, I'd assume the tides would get much more extreme if the Moon had the same gravity as Earth, and I don't know enough to guess about specifics, but I feel like it would also impact our rotation
Yeah, when contemplating increasing the gravity of the Moon, one has to think about how it would affect the Earth gravitationally. Rather the raising the Moon's gravity across the board, it would make more sense to have rotating 'bowls' to supplement lunar gravity in the habitats. Plus, lower gravity might be better for some people. Not to mention the recreational opportunities afforded by low gravity and the fact that it would be easier to launch rockets from lunar gravity.
You'd probably want to move the moon up to a higher orbit to reduce the risk impacts.
He said in the video that if you increase the mass of the moon you need to move it further out from the earth.
You won't have tidal problems if it's further away.
Adding enough mass to significantly increase the moon's gravity isn't very practical simply because it would be prohibitively expensive.
@@garethbaus5471 what is expense when taken into account a post scarcity civilization?
Living in a planet wide city sounds like a special kind of Hell.
Well what are you going to do with a bunch airless rock? It's either endless city or endless plain of colorless landscape.
If you had enough time, infrastructure, and sociopolitical stability to get it that way, I feel like it's extremely unlikely that there won't also be robust infrastructure to safely and affordably move out and go somewhere less crowded.
Another fine video presentation. I thoroughly enjoy each and every one, not only as a learning experience but as quite entertaining as well. Thank-you!!!
i like imagining we'll eventually somewhat decolonize the earth and move a large amount of people to the moon and other habs. then use the earth as a massive farm/zoo
And we will make O'Neill cylinders. and have giant suits with guns and laser swords! Australia will have a new ocea-
@@nikkity5491 Who says that the zoos will house animals? At that point in time it might as well be all obsolete versions of genetically enhanced humans and non-cyborgs.
And history preserves and deextinction zones so its billions of tourists and rangers
I would argue the world is already a zoo.
Somehow, we skipped a few steps. 🤔😂
Thanks Isaac I love the heartfelt message at the end
This chanel is underrated
I enjoy it BUT: his myopic belief that everything will just get better and better as the same people that ruined this world and run Amazon distribution centers with employees pissing in bottles makes it all just a bit too “won’t it be great” as we march towards a reality that looks like the original Total Recall; paying for everything, even the air your kids breath and any attempt at revolution results in the rich venting all of your air into somewhere that isn’t on strike. He misses all of the actual drawbacks and subsequently sounds well educated but poorly informed.
underrated is an understatement.
@28:55 -ish you apologize for including too much math. But like, I would LOVE more videos, everyone once in a while, that cover more of the math involved. It was one of the things I enjoyed about your earlier content (after I found you and went through the back catalogue)
I'm a subscriber of Anton, Cool worlds, John Michael godier, Curious droid and You. All of you are just great.
Wow, Crazy, I just watched a lecture on Cycloids this morning. Thx Issac, made my day:)
Looking forward in April, the themes are quite intriguing.
You should be knighted for the energy and attention to detail you put into these series. I’ve learnt so much and have had such a great insight into topics I never knew I’d be fascinated by.
Sir Isaac Arthur .. so fitting..
Question: Would increasing the weight of the moon effect the orbit of the earth and moon and their relationship with the sun. Isn't there a balance of the order of the planets and their moons?
There would be affects, but much less than the tidal effects on Earth due to the distance involved. I haven't followed Isaac's advice on Skillshare classes yet, so I can't calculate the effects off hand, but I would think the mass would have to change by orders of magnitude before we would have to worry about nudging things further from the Sun to compensate.
@@paulrhome6164 do you believe that by whatever method to increase the amount of gravity on the moon could have an effect on the orbit of the moon around the earth and the earth around the sun. The solar system has a balance and changing gravitational force on any planet or moon would possibly change the orbit of the moon around the earth as well as the tides of the oceans.
@@peacepoet1947 He mentioned the tidal effects and the possible need to correct for them. But just as the much larger distance from the Sun makes its gravity much less of a factor in Earth's tides than the moon is, it would take a much larger proportional increase in mass, especially since we're just talking about increasing the Moon, for the Earth/Moon system's orbit around the Sun to be affected to any similar degree.
@@peacepoet1947 you would have to adjust the distance from earth the moon is if you wanted to maintain the tidal forces. The impact on the whole solar system would likely be negligible. Think about it, there have been tim a every single planet was lined up in a row and all's still well
@@paulrhome6164 I'm just asking what type of obital changes would be happening should we increase the theoretical weight and mass of the moon? I did watch the video. I threw in the tides to add to the possible process what would happen "if"?
Not sure whether we'd want to increase the moons gravity, isn't having a lower escape velocity one of the reasons to use it as a base in the first place?
Well, by the time we can increase the moons gravity escape velocity will have long ago stopped being the problem. :)
Our lunar colony will have a Disneyland that contains giant swings, trampolines and human rocket launchers. 🌚
I listened to you originally as video game research, and now I do just because it's calming background ambience, akin to David Attenborough.
Dome living.
The way i see it you would have layers like stated. If i would build one, i would start with two layers in the dome. The external and internal dome to allow for redundancy, reduced stress, and to alert for a breach. The atmosphere between the two domes would be somewhere between vacuum and the pressure of the internal dome. That way if there is a breach, external or internal, it would be easier to detect. The structures inside, such as buildings, will be capable of becoming air tight. Their would be underground tunnels that are also act as an emergency shelter and unseen cargo movement.
I'm sure Isaac Arthur talked about this and that's where these 'ideas' are from.
A big enough dome will lose pressure extremely slowly. At least to bolides that are small enough not to have a kiloton class cratering energy anyway.
I think the leak detection would be done best with external infrared cameras.
Leaks should appear as plumes of warm gas jetting off the surface like a tea kettle.
You could easily cut the travel time through the gravity tunnels by electromagnetic acceleration and regenerative braking. The efficiency wouldn't be bad either.
Especially on the moon where air resistance isn't a major issue.
@@garethbaus5471
They would be vacuum tubes wherever you build them.
The biggest real unknown is how tolerant the human body (especially developing embryos) is to long term low gravity; we know microgravity is bad, and full earth gravity is good, but we don't really know much beyond that; is 1/100th of a G enough? Or does it need to be at least 0.99g to avoid problems?
This will affect how big a problem it is to make habitants for long term human colonisation; if we are fine with no additional gravity, long term operation on the moon is much easier. If we need extra gravity to avoid health/reproductive problems, it means rotating habitants on the moon, which is doable but a higher barrier to startup.
Spin gravity is the solution, just create 1 g or similar gravity to earth through spin gravity like o'niel cylinder.
We have spent decades in several different space stations doing biology and medical experiments studying how badly zero g screws with Earth biology.
Maybe next space station we could get some spin to start investigating the low gravity range?
@@Ching2x770 one idea along those lines is to have babies conceived, born and raised in orbit. Then come down when its safe, possibly very young, possibly as an adult. We don’t know
@@jaylewis9876 we need to teather the ISS to another station full of pregnant pigs and spin them to 1/3 g or something. I'm asking Elon to get on this.
Thank you so much for your video! I love your refreshing, polite and optimistic tone. I think your mixture of possible with science and imagination adds so much and is so valuable! thank you. Not sure if anyone will read this but if we had that many people on the moon we could have a mixture of industry and recreation, habitable micro environments that are like pocket historical periods or theme park type things that we could create. There is no limit with that type of energy and resource transformation.
I thought it was wild learning that all 7 other planets would just fill the space between earth and the moon... it's bigger and farther than I gave it credit... also using the moon for a sub station to the rest of our solar system is essential imo!
But what effects would it have on earth as far as weather here on earth if we increase the mass of the moon?
As amazing and high quality as the content body is, your character really shines through in the post-sponsor segment.
UGH! Would kill for a podcast or something with Isaac and David Kipping together!!!! They could narrate grass growing or paint drying, and I would be enthralled for hours at a time!!!
I understand the obsession with Mars (somewhat) but I feel like we should focus on orbital infrastructure, trans-lunar space and of course, the moon. Once we have a good starting point in space that’s close to home, then we can spread throughout the solar system in mass.
I use to have the same opinion. I would really recommend the book “The Case for Mars”. It is very persuasive.
I agree, what is there so great on mars anyway.
yeah mars colonization is dumb & unnecessary. basically a prestige project just because we can. Lunar & orbital infrastructure is the linchpin for all further colonization & makes it all practical
I support limited Mars colonization but compared to the solar system, trans-lunar space is our backyard. Trial and error in regards to everything would be easier here then millions of miles away from home. Once we have some practical experience with living in space, then we can expand outwards.
I love your your subtle childlike pronunciations it is so adorable keep up the great work.
that red night dome illustration around 14:27 is so cool looking
I remember reading a science fiction story set on the Moon. It was “the opposite” of the Earth. The richest people on Earth who lived in penthouses on tops of skyscrapers, on the Moon, the richest people lived deep underground in penthouses, safely away from radiation above.
Reminds me of post 9/11 Manhattan.
The rich executives fled the top floors of skycrapers. Ground floor became the hot office space.
Guess the secretaries and jr partners got the offices w/view.
Was it Ian MacDonald's New Moon trilogy?
Times are tremendously messed up; I hope for that utopian future that we're capable of as a race, but with the current system we just can't go that direction. Appreciate the well wishes for the community, I hope you're managing your stress and everything in a healthy way Isaac.
I love these regular annual Moon videos.
Why does that look like my 8th grade science project back in 1968? I did get an honorable mention at the International Science Fair in Canada that year.
Love your stuff. Keep up the good work.
The Mooninites would approve of your many moon-focused episodes
The Moon has a surface area comparable to the Americas. So it could comfortably support an equivalent population without ridiculous crowding. The primary constraint would be water ... imported from Europa.
Thanks Isaac. You are a bloody legend !! Nailing it🖖
For what it's worth thank you for your content. Your videos inspire me with my Lego moon base moc.
Only one woman in the group photo -- have MUCH work to do to tap half the population brains. Courage and conviction, working to a better world - THANK YOU !!!
Excellent episode, gave me a few ideas for some science fiction projects I would like to create in the future.
Twelve minutes in and we're already at "turn the moon into a giant donut; it's just more efficient"! Isaac does not do small thinks.
This is PERFECT for researching the moon's city scape in THE HARD RETURN series. thanks! :)
Thanks for another one I can’t wait to hear! Isaac, my book is available on Audible, Sentence by Daniel Genis. I’m the narrator too, so you’d be hearing me read my own work…. Take care!
@orkhaa Isaac sounds like he supports science and progress to me. Also, he doesn’t employ faith in his politics, considering whom he supports- and how would you know anyway? If I was Isaac, I’d erase your comment and ban you from the show, as you sound like the exact narrow-minded bigot you accuse him of being…
@orkhaa what does politics have to do with the video?
Living on the surface of the moon would require a massive magnetosphere since the atmosphere would be so thin.
Small potatoes for this channel, but still worth mentioning :)
Thank you for applying some mathematics to the episode. I recently started going to college again at 40 years old and I can't say Algebra has been my favorite course. However, I'm more patient now and giving it my best!
14:14 A dome of multiple small bubbles so that each could be self sealing? Problem with light scattering.
Thank you so much for the ending emotional encouragement... I really needed it :)
Wouldn't changing the moon's gravity have an affect on how it interacts with Earth? Perhaps even affecting its orbit? Seems like it would definitely have an affect on Earth's tides...🤔
Oh, nevermind...you addressed that. I should have known you wouldn't leave that out.
Easy mode would be to add 200 km diameter solenoids generating magnetic fields on each pole creating a global magnetosphere and/or a few 20 km ones on major city locations. creating local magnetospheres. Add a few 2 km tracked centrifuges at each population center. These allows a few hours at 1 g for gym, dining, bathing spars etc. "Re-set the bone growth and blood pressure with your daily gravity fix". Everything else is enclosed archology, domes and lava tubes with artificial light. Power sats, fission, fusion, surface or roof top solar with diverse storage are all option. On the moon the distances are low enough for the night side to be powered by day side solar.
On the topic of doming over the whole moon, (3:22) I don't think that would be as hard as it initially sounds. Assuming you want a similar atmospheric pressure as on earth under the dome (above would obviously be zero), that would give the dome enough lift to carry a 10 meter layer of water, or 60 meters on the moon! Thus, the main problem with doming over the moon would be to hold the dome down, not holding it up! As long as the ocean that covers the initial settlements is under 55 meters deep (the average depth of the Baltic Sea), I can't really see them getting any problems (except for corrosion and barnacle growth).
I really think that the whole moon would be domed over before we started raising it's gravity, just on account of how much easier it is.
I wonder how far you'd need to extend the atmosphere to where it's providing just enough lift for a good strong, low-leakage plastic foil (a 1000th to a 10000th of earth's pressure). If my intuition that it scales a good bit worse than linear is right, it would be way more than 6 times as tall as earth's atmosphere.
Why does your dome need to carry a 10 meter layer of water?
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom That's the carrying power of 1 atmosphere of pressure (in earth's gravity).
I don't know how it would be useful, except that you could use the dome to suspend lots of structures that engineers would struggle to make stand up on earth.
@@Pystro But you don't need to carry that load on a dome. You just need to contain 15 psi of pressure and that can be done with very thin and light materials.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Exactly, the strength of the dome itself isn't the issue. But the pressure would be strong enough to lift the dome off as a whole if you don't tie it down at regular intervals. Think about the fact that hurricanes (which only reach pressure differences of a small fraction of earth's atmosphere can lift off shingle-covered roofs when blowing at them from the side, and then imagine what blowing directly at the underside of a dome with a full atmosphere of pressure would do. Absolute pressures are so much stronger than the pressure differences we are used to from wind, balloons or drag.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom Think of car tires. They are at similar pressures as our atmosphere. You might think that they are just round objects holding themselves in shape, but the side walls of the tire are tying it down where the rubber connects to the rims. And the distance between the tie down points there is 5 inches or so.
Thanks Isaac.
As a Finn, 2 weeks of light would sound very good right now.
Awesome video! Still pulling for a Venus colony…
Just the other day, I was listening to Space-Audio's Voyager recordings, and the clang from instrument interference went from an occasional gong to sounding a lot like the intro for this episode by Neptune. It's just missing the random bursts of fast-tempo jitter.
Love your optimism of the future, so much negetivity generally. But we can have a great future if we want it and work for it.
You are so very appreciated Isaac!
NASA Artemis mission every time Isaac makes a moon video: WRITE THAT DOWN
Thought provoking as usual Isaac! Damn I love your content!
26:06 the mentioning of such speed comparisons so casually always kills me man
So awesome. Love your videos
It is always a welcome break to tune in to SFIA for some optimistic and scientifically valid views of our potential future rather than be bombarded with all of the doom and gloom political BS infecting the rest of the internet.
Once an established city on the moon it would most likely to become a way station to help terraform other planets first. A staging ground, and mining ground, to utilize resources to terraform Mars and Venus. Mined for fuel and resources to get to Mars. Other materials mined could be stockpiled and then sent to Venus to help to neutralize Venus atmosphere.
Sheer lunacy!
Honestly great episode!
17:55 Was that a LEGO Rock Raiders reference? I loved that game as a kid.
I have a question that might be quite silly, and also may or may not have already been covered as I have yet to watch the relevant video. To put it vaguely and generally, what if a world, terraformed or otherwise but likely terraformed, utilized a planetary shield for atmospheric pressurization purposes? It’s essentially the moon dome idea taken a step or few further. It’d probably be more trouble than it’s worth, at least for earth like atmospheres, but it is an interesting concept.
That's called paraterraforming, the structure as a whole is ofyen referred to as a world house, has been mentioned in many videos, is less destructive, & is orders of magnitude easier than traditional terraforming.
@@virutech32 ok forgive me if I’m mistaken here but when I looked up a definition of the term paraterraforming it seemed to refer to mere individual habitation domes, which isn’t what I’m talking about. I was talking about one that encircled/encompassed an entire planet, not just a portion of it.
Now as stated previously I have not seen the relevant videos that have been made on the topic, and wouldn’t have known that this was mentioned in other videos.
@@antonberkbigler5759 Paraterraforming isn't specific or partial to separated domes. That's just one way to do it. The core idea is to hab up the surface of the planet to not have to deal with modifying whole atmospheres & regolith. What's nice is that you can do it piecemeal which is why it's always shown as separate domes cuz they aren't finished habbing the whole planet.
Also by the by i dont think it's ever been covered specifically. Iv just heard im mention it separately in a lot of vids
@@virutech32 yeah I’m talking about something specific here though, not a broader concept. I am specifically talking about a singular spheroid that encompasses an entire planetoid for the specific and explicit purpose of keeping in an atmosphere, more specifically at a specific atmospheric pressure. This is what I am insularly talking and asking about, and nothing else whatsoever. I do genuinely appreciate and thank you for your replies but I am asking about this one specific idea and no other. I am not talking about multiple small domes or even one big dome, I’m not talking about domes at all because those are only hemispheres and not full globes. The whole sky walled off in a way you can’t walk to an edge, only through relative vertical movement can you reach the “edge”, which is really just the surface/face of the snow globe encompassing an entire planet or moon, wether it be a forcefield or some sort of super material. It is a structure enclosing an entire world, entirely and completely.
I recognize that my wording is likely highly hostile and I ask that can you please disregard perceived hostilities, I am preagitated due to TH-cam not letting me edit a comment I just made on a different video, meaning I have to copy paste it in a new comment while deleting the old one, just for a spelling error and adding one new word. I once again thank you for introducing me to the term of paraterraforming, even if it wasn’t specifically and exactly what I was looking for.
We need a Moo Moon episode about cattle ranching on the moon :)
How difficult would it be to stack (sloped vector addition) rotating habitat modules into towers/skyscrapers on the moon?
I would be interested to know how increasing the moons mass would affect the tides on earth. Great show.
Particularly a 500% increase.
One question probably nonsense but I'm curious, I remember being told years ago that lunar dust isn't like ours or even Mars which is weathered even on a microscopic scale? Whereas moon dust is sharp,so Sharp that it wore the Apollo crews space boots ect down and that if they had have stayed much longer would have destroyed their suits ect? So even if we lived underground in pressured environments,mining ect wouldn't breathing that lunar dust in cause us at least deadly lung damage? Or destroy our skin. I guess I'm asking forget the physics or science of colonising the moon could we live there without being in permanent protective suits even under pressured domes or in tunnels ect? How do we overcome this deadly microscopic dust sharp as needles? T
...it'd be pike living on a planet made out of asbestos 🦾
About the increased gravity scenario, I'd argue that similar results could be achieved by manipulating dark matter as opposed to creating black holes. I recall that from a video of yours about the potential dark matter based technologies.
Need a scyfy series that deals with upward and outward bound and becoming an interplanetary species with fully developed earth and the moon. Awesome video
Great episode as always Isaac!
Hi Issac. Great video as always. Couple of thoughts: firstly regarding the artificial black hole or increasing the mass of the moon. While increasing the gravity for the colonists of the moon it would also have a greater pull on earth than the moon currently has. This would drastically change the tides and potentially earths rotation which the moon stabilises thereby devastating earth own environment. Earths days could potentially be longer as our spin would slow and our atmosphere could bulge toward the moon.
Second thought is regarding the hole through the centre of a planet. Always struggled with this as concept. Ignoring the mining issues, I struggle with how it would be efficient as you would fall from one end to the centre but to my mind isn’t it then a climb from the centre to the other end? Effectively the fall is energy free but the climb is all energy use so it’s not an energy free journey-particularly to escape the high gravity at the core. Ignoring the effort to build it, it still seems more efficient to travel at the surface.
Anyway it does make me think of potential issues between the planets and moon when they become colonised. Not so much war but economics and socially. Think this is covered briefly in the first book of The Rendezvous with Rama series. Personally I feel like the moons low gravity is it’s strength as it is easy to launch space craft from. It could become a vast space port and quite industrial- you don’t need to worry about co2 and green houses gases if there isn’t an atmosphere! Maybe all industry shifts to the moon with only finished good being sent to earth and the only real structures on the moon are the ports and mega factories that are operated by minimal amount of humans
"Artificially lit" will be the Lunar Tourism Board's slogan.
🤣🤣🤣that's amazing
We're whalers on the moon,
We carry a harpoon,
For they ain't no whales
So we tell tall tales
And sing our whaling tune!
You’re a blessing to human beings!! 👍
“Ayyyy yo new moon lore just dropped”
Thank you for your positive message at the end of the video. Sadly, it is very much needed, and I agree that the future is what we make it.
Those tunnels would be epic for skate boarders
Hoo boy! Fresh content!