Moondrop is really on to something big with their DSP implementation. Imagine they implement a higher quality and feature rich DSP DAC alongside an app from where you can customize your eq profile and even share profiles via a social feature. Excited to get my Quarks delivered.
you dont touch the EQ profile. Thats the point of the DSP. This isn't made for tinkering. That EQ profile is the harman curve, which is the best EQ profile based on studies. This is "get it, and enjoy it" product
Yes... this is the direction where we are going. With this successful implementation of DSPs, this could render a lot of IEMS obsolete or could be phased out with this audio technology as the trend will lean towards creating quality tuned sound at an affordable price. Imagine getting the ideal IEM tuning at around $15. I couldn't believe it until I saw this Moondrop Quarks DSP.
DSPs are really going to change the game. If they're up there with the Moondrop Variations...then..there it is. $15 USD is all you need. (iwonderhowthejiuswillperform)
I'm sure that some reviewers will take great issue, or even great offense, with the frequency response. Thank you for explaining it. The one thing that we should probably keep in mind regarding the Quarks DSP version and the JIU (the Chu DSP version?) are most likely not meant to be used with an external DAC/AMP. In fact, they might be mostly intended for mobile devices, tablets and smartphones. Maybe testing them in iPhones versus Android phones to see if there is a difference and if the Quarks DSP are worth it for these devices.
But i'm currious can they make a planar IEM with this DSP thing? even if they sacrificing the removable cable, since i look and notice that planar IEM's graph look not too smooth. Maybe this DSP thing will be a game changer for planar IEM's.
I've had them for 2 weeks. the frequency response is great but they do have a weird pitch drift which is very annoying. You can check it by reproducing a frequency of 1khz for a minute. there you will see and hear the variations. During music playback it sounds as if one slowed down a vinyl or cassette
Ian, will this work with phones that have a dedicated headphone jack? Edit: I made a mistake with my question by not framing it properly. All phones having a 3.5mm jack will have an inbuilt dac. When this type of IEM, an IEM with it's own DAC is plugged in a phone with an inbuilt dac, chances are the phone will not use the dac from the iem, but rather the inbuilt dac of the phone. The usb-c will act just a pass through and completely ignore the dac of the iem.
Nothing because variations already has their desired tuning. They could implement an even more elaborate DSP that lets you tweak it according to your ears.
On my Pixel 6a, when i connect moondrop quarks dsp, it shows 'charging connected device using USB'. And then it cannot use it until I replug it. Please help guys 🙏🙏🙏
Any ideas on how to use with an iPhone? All I’ve come up with is the idea of sticking them in a Google usb-c female to 3.5mm male, into the apple dongle and into my iPhone which for some reason i fear could cause a nuclear reaction
And the future moondrop jiu, the moondrop quarks DSP obviously is better than the normal version now imagine the moondrop Chu DSP ( the future jiu) i think that model will destroy all the entry level again and yeah goodbye 7hz zero. But when the moondrop jiu will arrive?
@@ianfann Well, i know that graph 😂I just wanna know what you think. Like, would i feel the "essence " of the Zero with the Quarks DSP? I dont have the luxury to try out the Zero in my place
The curve is similar. More treble extension for Truthear Zero and more sub-bass extension for Quarks. Two different animals because in Zero there are two drivers separated by crossover and in Quarks only one.
Which is best iem for technicalities (detail, imaging, separation, dynamics) under $25? My only preference is technicalities (I want to hear different instruments and micro details in music at-least good enough, as I know I can't get too much detail's imaging, separation, dynamics in this price range.) not tunning.
All those things you want literally come from the tuning lol. I don't mean to cause offence but you need to rethink you entire view of how audio works from scratch. The tuning is the technicalities. It is impossible to have good technicalities with bad tuning.
@@neandrewthal Unfortunately reviewers such as the one in this video still believe in the idea of 'resolution' and 'detail retrieval', ian fann did not hesitate to say that the quarks dsp is lacking in these areas despite the fact that the quarks has impressive tuning already.
@@XSphynxForEvilX Yeah I noticed. It's practically obligatory in all reviews on Reddit too. To give them some credit it actually does have some phase issues with may lead to problems with perceived imaging but it doesn't bother me. Resolution...that's just absurd though. All detail and resolution is simply hearing the frequencies that you want to hear.
@@neandrewthal From my experience there is obvious difference between a high-end gear and a low end like quarks dsp technicalities like how multiple instruments are separated in a busy track. If all those differences are from tunning only than why quality of driver, diagram, etc matters. I have tested variations in audio event which had very same tunning as quarks dsp but still it shines in complex music like classical. Also, why variations cost 500 dollars while dsp one cost less than 15 dollars. Are people really mad to buy higher end gear if both have almost same tunning?
@@WoundCamel Quarks is $15 because it only has one driver and is in a small plastic housing. Driver quality is a means to an end. The job of the driver is to produce the desired frequency response with low distortion. If that is achieved then the driver quality is good enough by definition and higher quality one will yield no improvement. The main reason variations costs $500 is because people will pay $500 even though it undoubtedly costs a lot more than the Quarks to produce. And yes, lots of people who buy high end gear are mad or delusional or just not knowledgeable.
Moondrop is really on to something big with their DSP implementation. Imagine they implement a higher quality and feature rich DSP DAC alongside an app from where you can customize your eq profile and even share profiles via a social feature. Excited to get my Quarks delivered.
you dont touch the EQ profile. Thats the point of the DSP. This isn't made for tinkering. That EQ profile is the harman curve, which is the best EQ profile based on studies. This is "get it, and enjoy it" product
Technologies finally become to that level when you can buy ideally tuned earphones for cheap
yup looks like it
@@ianfann is this for bass heads?
Nope
@@ianfann what has change?
The addition of dsp
Yes... this is the direction where we are going. With this successful implementation of DSPs, this could render a lot of IEMS obsolete or could be phased out with this audio technology as the trend will lean towards creating quality tuned sound at an affordable price.
Imagine getting the ideal IEM tuning at around $15. I couldn't believe it until I saw this Moondrop Quarks DSP.
It already renders 99% of IEMs obsolete.
DSPs are really going to change the game. If they're up there with the Moondrop Variations...then..there it is. $15 USD is all you need. (iwonderhowthejiuswillperform)
yup it is
I'm sure that some reviewers will take great issue, or even great offense, with the frequency response. Thank you for explaining it. The one thing that we should probably keep in mind regarding the Quarks DSP version and the JIU (the Chu DSP version?) are most likely not meant to be used with an external DAC/AMP. In fact, they might be mostly intended for mobile devices, tablets and smartphones. Maybe testing them in iPhones versus Android phones to see if there is a difference and if the Quarks DSP are worth it for these devices.
The DSP is so much better for music and gaming rather than the standard version. Real banger for less!
That graph look really smooth, btw thanks for the video ,you are always be the most up to date one :)
But i'm currious can they make a planar IEM with this DSP thing? even if they sacrificing the removable cable, since i look and notice that planar IEM's graph look not too smooth. Maybe this DSP thing will be a game changer for planar IEM's.
excited to see how the moondrop jiu performs too with the dsp
Hi can you plug it into a laptop with the usb type c tip?
Moondrop quarks DSP or KZ ZEX ?
I've had them for 2 weeks. the frequency response is great but they do have a weird pitch drift which is very annoying. You can check it by reproducing a frequency of 1khz for a minute. there you will see and hear the variations. During music playback it sounds as if one slowed down a vinyl or cassette
Interesting, I never noticed that.
I already had Moondrop Chu, is it still worthy to buy Quarks Dsp or should i buy Tangzu Wan Er ,Hola,Tanchjim zero or Trn MT3 ?thx
is the mic good? saw a review saying it sounded robotic
Does it work with Windows & Linux?
overall volume is on the lower side. any method to fix it ?
Ian, will this work with phones that have a dedicated headphone jack?
Edit: I made a mistake with my question by not framing it properly. All phones having a 3.5mm jack will have an inbuilt dac. When this type of IEM, an IEM with it's own DAC is plugged in a phone with an inbuilt dac, chances are the phone will not use the dac from the iem, but rather the inbuilt dac of the phone. The usb-c will act just a pass through and completely ignore the dac of the iem.
nope
It should if the phone has a type C port
@@aqifabidin why?
What a weird question.
bruh
Good morning ☕️☕️
Now, imagine them putting a cable out from Moondrop for their IEM’s with the DSP 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
Yeah....imagine that....ahhhhh
Well You can buy this cut and solder connectors SORTED
Great work Ian, even they are tunned by dsp, tnx by your measurements i push them even more with wavelet, making them perfection!
Thanks so much!
whos better,
this (DSP) one or CCA CRA?
What would happen if they did this to a end game like Moondrop variations?
Nothing because variations already has their desired tuning.
They could implement an even more elaborate DSP that lets you tweak it according to your ears.
only iem that will greatly benefit from the DSP is the moondrop stellaris
I figure u can further EQ this to ur liking in a music player app like Poweramp on Android?
You measured graph with foam tips but listened and reviewed with silicone tips, so the graph doesn't match ur experience right 🤔
On my Pixel 6a, when i connect moondrop quarks dsp, it shows 'charging connected device using USB'. And then it cannot use it until I replug it. Please help guys 🙏🙏🙏
Any ideas on how to use with an iPhone?
All I’ve come up with is the idea of sticking them in a Google usb-c female to 3.5mm male, into the apple dongle and into my iPhone which for some reason i fear could cause a nuclear reaction
Lol dude that's 4 layers
Are u building a bridge between phone and earphones lol
And the future moondrop jiu, the moondrop quarks DSP obviously is better than the normal version now imagine the moondrop Chu DSP ( the future jiu) i think that model will destroy all the entry level again and yeah goodbye 7hz zero. But when the moondrop jiu will arrive?
They're going to fuck up with the Chu DSP (jiu)
What do you think between this and Truthear Zero tuning wise?
ianfann.squig.link/?share=Harman_2019_Target,TRUTHEAR_ZERO,MOONDROP_QUARKS_DSP
THIS ONE
@@ianfann Well, i know that graph 😂I just wanna know what you think. Like, would i feel the "essence " of the Zero with the Quarks DSP? I dont have the luxury to try out the Zero in my place
The curve is similar. More treble extension for Truthear Zero and more sub-bass extension for Quarks. Two different animals because in Zero there are two drivers separated by crossover and in Quarks only one.
zero has better technicalities as compared to the quarks, soundstage and resolution is superior.
The chip is AB13X
Truee! I connected it to my phone it said generic ab13x. Since 'm really new to all of this I didn't know what that meant hahaha
Which is best iem for technicalities (detail, imaging, separation, dynamics) under $25? My only preference is technicalities (I want to hear different instruments and micro details in music at-least good enough, as I know I can't get too much detail's imaging, separation, dynamics in this price range.) not tunning.
All those things you want literally come from the tuning lol. I don't mean to cause offence but you need to rethink you entire view of how audio works from scratch. The tuning is the technicalities. It is impossible to have good technicalities with bad tuning.
@@neandrewthal Unfortunately reviewers such as the one in this video still believe in the idea of 'resolution' and 'detail retrieval', ian fann did not hesitate to say that the quarks dsp is lacking in these areas despite the fact that the quarks has impressive tuning already.
@@XSphynxForEvilX Yeah I noticed. It's practically obligatory in all reviews on Reddit too. To give them some credit it actually does have some phase issues with may lead to problems with perceived imaging but it doesn't bother me. Resolution...that's just absurd though. All detail and resolution is simply hearing the frequencies that you want to hear.
@@neandrewthal From my experience there is obvious difference between a high-end gear and a low end like quarks dsp technicalities like how multiple instruments are separated in a busy track. If all those differences are from tunning only than why quality of driver, diagram, etc matters. I have tested variations in audio event which had very same tunning as quarks dsp but still it shines in complex music like classical. Also, why variations cost 500 dollars while dsp one cost less than 15 dollars. Are people really mad to buy higher end gear if both have almost same tunning?
@@WoundCamel Quarks is $15 because it only has one driver and is in a small plastic housing. Driver quality is a means to an end. The job of the driver is to produce the desired frequency response with low distortion. If that is achieved then the driver quality is good enough by definition and higher quality one will yield no improvement.
The main reason variations costs $500 is because people will pay $500 even though it undoubtedly costs a lot more than the Quarks to produce. And yes, lots of people who buy high end gear are mad or delusional or just not knowledgeable.
Can anyone give me wavelet eq file for og quarks to make it sound like quarks DSP???
this is so good
thanks for watching!
7hz zero or quark dsp which one batter to you?
Quarks DSP is infinitely better for me. It's really no competition at all.
no graph comparison with originals?
i don't have the original sorry
pls review trn xuanwu. thankssssss!
yes, it's on the way
Hi i just bought this iem, how do i output sounds from adapter of microusb to usb c, i am currently using a vivo phone with microusb
You can buy a micro-USB to usb-c dongle/adapter (micro male to c female port)
@@srnk3416 thank you for your attention and answer, unfortunately it doesn't worked, i just bought the adapter, there's no sound output
What is a DSP?
Digital signal processor
how, a reduce in the mids and low mids, will improve the instruments, xd
Nice!
this small yellow memory foam tips... you replaced it? where can I get the same ?
hmm honestly i can't remember where i got them from lol