As a South African young Black man, born post-apartheid people really need to study closely what Communism has done to countries, it will never work , never has never will I, however, know that Communism thrives in chaos,, if people continue to suffer and continue to suffer SACP, EFF and MK’s are nothing more and more of such will continue to merge over the years
You can add certain ANC factions and Action SA. MP want black unity, for what? To keep us poor while they steal themselves rich.. Go IFP, DA, PA, UIM and many young new parties with leaders of integrity.
You're an interesting man with a good head on your shoulders. Did you read Thomas Sowell at all? Brilliant man - you sound like him - common sense. But convincing people who like free stuff with zero effort is very difficult. I wish you success - but not so much that you become a target of the ANC gang. Stay safe. I'm proud of you. ❤
SACP and ANC's recent caucus to strengthening their alignment is tantamount to clutching at straws, hoping for a win in 2026. Thank you Mike for hosting Dr Harvey again. Brilliant interview as usual.
Now Harvey is all over the place, he correctly indicates that the ANC has moved towards the neo liberal policy stance of the DA whilst arguing at the same time that the GNU will collapse due to lack of policy coherence. The problem in South Africa is not policy but lack of ethical and competent leadership which values meritocracy instead of kleptocracy.
Well said. We also need people in these positions to stop selling rasist propaganda. How do u turn someone into a patriot. As for anc move to liberal it's clear. Are there voters aware of it. If they don't address that, propaganda can easily befall the weak minded. Its quite a Conundrum i reckon. ANC isn't In a good spot. And would DA supporters really want there party caught in the mix of that. I reckon if the DA chose to pull out. Let them. Until the ANC splits again the DA shouldn't be anywhere near it IMO All these anc shortfalls are being spoken as DA led government. This propaganda is quote a problem among those without internet
Probably get money from government too. We see then how Unions seem to have more power than they aught to. SACP thinks it can tell the ANC whats what, and to kick the GNU. Like who the fak do they think they are
All we need at local government level is competent people to deliver services to us. Nothing more, nothing less. And for this we do NOT need political parties.
Good interview Mike. I think Ebrahim is actually the one who is confused about alignment of policies vs what is the best for the country. But at least he's honest about being a socialist & if he really thinks that is best for the country, then I think you did a good job of educating him, although you can't teach an old dogs new tricks.
We dont need ideology. Ehat SA leaders need to do is to sit down with citizens and eork out what are the values we stand by to build a new SA. This video explains -- "Bold young girl confronts Burkino Faso President Ibram Taore leaving him speechless." Watch the decorum of both this girl and her president. Political ideologies care nothing about children. "Values," should be uppermost in nation building. I dont see nation building being spoken about. In 1994 we were told that never again should a nation be distinguished by racism. Since this election we have heard more about racism than in the last 30 yrs. If we focus on what values will distinguish SA from the last 30 years we will begin to build our country on a good, rather than a racist, foundation.
Communism can never work because " man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God". This verse is the antithesis of Dialectical Materialism which underpins the communist philosophical framework which places materialism at the centre of human existence. But the problem with this thinking is that it overlooks the truth that a human is a spirit in a human body and has a soul. The body needs food and shelter but the spirit requires a different kind of food and that it is the word of God. A human being can have all material needs but as long as the spirit is estranged from God fulfilment will remain a pipe dream no matter how many cars, houses and other creature comforts we keep acquiring. There is something deep within a human soul that yearns for something more than material possession because that is how the Creator designed things.
The ANC middle & top structures tasted MONEY in Government & in the Private Sector through BBBEE, jobs & promotions for Cadres...they are ENJOYING CAPITALISM very much...
Mike I love your show and your insights. But if I'm honest, Dr Ebrahim Harvey comes across as condescending. Anyway that's my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.
Lack of common ideology helps force them to come together and find a solution. The GNU will always be more successful than the ANC challenge brings action.
It’s always so difficult to listen to Dr Harvey with his condescending attitude and irritating voice. He seems to thinks that he is the expert on everything. Do irritating. 😠
Gnu must just work hard for the people of this country. Cheap politics aim is to collapse it they dont care about the future of this country and their children
Dr Harvey is being simplistic at best when claiming that black South Africans don’t ‘give a damn about corruption’. People’s reasons for voting for the MKP were far more complex than he claims and it would be dangerous to paint an entire demographic group with one brush. While I respect him as an accomplished person, I personally found his generalisations profoundly disappointing.
You are correct> I am a classic liberal, not a neo-liberal which is a different thing. I believe in rights for all, as long as it is in the interests of the many. I believe in personal freedoms with good laws. The belief that every person is in the best position to know what he or she wants, this is progressive. The opposite is when the state tells you what you want; this is regressive and this is what communism advocates.
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As a South African young Black man, born post-apartheid people really need to study closely what Communism has done to countries, it will never work , never has never will I, however, know that Communism thrives in chaos,, if people continue to suffer and continue to suffer SACP, EFF and MK’s are nothing more and more of such will continue to merge over the years
You are young black man with open minded. I appreciate you.
Some people support communism just bcos they are misled by the word Equality.
You can add certain ANC factions and Action SA. MP want black unity, for what? To keep us poor while they steal themselves rich.. Go IFP, DA, PA, UIM and many young new parties with leaders of integrity.
Mk
You're an interesting man with a good head on your shoulders. Did you read Thomas Sowell at all? Brilliant man - you sound like him - common sense. But convincing people who like free stuff with zero effort is very difficult. I wish you success - but not so much that you become a target of the ANC gang. Stay safe. I'm proud of you. ❤
Great interview! Well done Mike! I could see you were itching to make more points and counter arguments...
SACP and ANC's recent caucus to strengthening their alignment is tantamount to clutching at straws, hoping for a win in 2026. Thank you Mike for hosting Dr Harvey again. Brilliant interview as usual.
Mike has a excellent argument and you want an unalighed government without collaboration and corruption denial
We need some one who knows about South African history starting from b1970s
I was born in Rhodesia now is Zimbabwe tell me about apareitet gorvment of John Vorster
Unions must go. The tail cannot wag the dog.
Great discussion, thanks chaps
Now Harvey is all over the place, he correctly indicates that the ANC has moved towards the neo liberal policy stance of the DA whilst arguing at the same time that the GNU will collapse due to lack of policy coherence. The problem in South Africa is not policy but lack of ethical and competent leadership which values meritocracy instead of kleptocracy.
Well said. We also need people in these positions to stop selling rasist propaganda. How do u turn someone into a patriot. As for anc move to liberal it's clear. Are there voters aware of it. If they don't address that, propaganda can easily befall the weak minded. Its quite a Conundrum i reckon. ANC isn't In a good spot. And would DA supporters really want there party caught in the mix of that. I reckon if the DA chose to pull out. Let them. Until the ANC splits again the DA shouldn't be anywhere near it IMO
All these anc shortfalls are being spoken as DA led government. This propaganda is quote a problem among those without internet
The DA were more successful on tbe opposition bench imo
Let's wait and see
How do Unions still Exist with a minimal Work Force paying them
Probably get money from government too. We see then how Unions seem to have more power than they aught to. SACP thinks it can tell the ANC whats what, and to kick the GNU. Like who the fak do they think they are
Great conversation; invite more people like this man.
SACP must be pronounced illegal organisation.
Mike i like you for loving your country
All we need at local government level is competent people to deliver services to us. Nothing more, nothing less. And for this we do NOT need political parties.
Good interview Mike. I think Ebrahim is actually the one who is confused about alignment of policies vs what is the best for the country. But at least he's honest about being a socialist & if he really thinks that is best for the country, then I think you did a good job of educating him, although you can't teach an old dogs new tricks.
We dont need ideology. Ehat SA leaders need to do is to sit down with citizens and eork out what are the values we stand by to build a new SA. This video explains -- "Bold young girl confronts Burkino Faso President Ibram Taore leaving him speechless." Watch the decorum of both this girl and her president. Political ideologies care nothing about children. "Values," should be uppermost in nation building. I dont see nation building being spoken about. In 1994 we were told that never again should a nation be distinguished by racism. Since this election we have heard more about racism than in the last 30 yrs. If we focus on what values will distinguish SA from the last 30 years we will begin to build our country on a good, rather than a racist, foundation.
Dr Harvey. A lot of words going nowhere. When Mike spoke….boy, did it make sense.
Cosatu and co would have to move fast. As unemployment rises theyll have fewer and fewer members😂
Please Please give Mike a chance..hells bells 😮
That is something that is not said often!
Communism can never work because " man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that comes from the mouth of God". This verse is the antithesis of Dialectical Materialism which underpins the communist philosophical framework which places materialism at the centre of human existence. But the problem with this thinking is that it overlooks the truth that a human is a spirit in a human body and has a soul. The body needs food and shelter but the spirit requires a different kind of food and that it is the word of God. A human being can have all material needs but as long as the spirit is estranged from God fulfilment will remain a pipe dream no matter how many cars, houses and other creature comforts we keep acquiring. There is something deep within a human soul that yearns for something more than material possession because that is how the Creator designed things.
Mike Sham you win the debate hands down this was the worst showing by cde Ibrahim Harvey.
Yes!!!! Agree 100%!!!!
Dr Harvey is not a good communicator. Can't stick to one point and fully articulate it.
We are so tired of SAPC. In Cuba they are dying of hunger with communists in charge. Your ministers in the government has failed South Africans.
This is going to be good. :)
The ANC middle & top structures tasted MONEY in Government & in the Private Sector through BBBEE, jobs & promotions for Cadres...they are ENJOYING CAPITALISM very much...
Socialism must go. It is precisely the socialist policies that caused the poverty in this country, South Africa was booming under Mbeki.
Mike I love your show and your insights. But if I'm honest, Dr Ebrahim Harvey comes across as condescending. Anyway that's my opinion. Maybe I'm wrong.
Just 1 Word..Irritating!!! Conversation is a 2way street..😅
People prefer where they stay in any Province in South Africa
I think Mr Harvey is totally confused. Where has he been living! He made no common sense. Good one Mike.
Ignu is our best for southafrica
Lack of common ideology helps force them to come together and find a solution. The GNU will always be more successful than the ANC challenge brings action.
Remember in S A homelands are differ in developments
Mike must get a chance to speak
It’s always so difficult to listen to Dr Harvey with his condescending attitude and irritating voice. He seems to thinks that he is the expert on everything. Do irritating. 😠
Thank u for rhe update abt the MORONS inthe Margue..as we Call them..😂😂😂😂
Lirsten to me i am your elder i will tetch you the history of this country
This electorate must go further and dump the sacp aswell.
We talk about colbretion istabilish about South Africans citizens
Think of Isreal lights and Zimbabwean lihgts
That is the problem with this host. He and his DA group wanted Ramaphosa so much so so that he would still the ANC and give it to DA
Gnu must just work hard for the people of this country. Cheap politics aim is to collapse it they dont care about the future of this country and their children
M.r i dont 😢want to get into it now. . throws in the bait then pulls it immediately. Verbal diatrhea dont you like my voice?
Gnu will never fail
Any South Africans is illegible to stay in any Provinces
Dr Harvey is being simplistic at best when claiming that black South Africans don’t ‘give a damn about corruption’. People’s reasons for voting for the MKP were far more complex than he claims and it would be dangerous to paint an entire demographic group with one brush. While I respect him as an accomplished person, I personally found his generalisations profoundly disappointing.
Geez, he's got a helium voice. Ouch.
I too said this GNU would never ever work - they all in it for themselves.
Mike your guest was very articulate until you brought up the ideological nonalignment as a benefit to the GNU, from then onwards was just word salad
😂😂😂 Capitalist Crisis 😂😂😂 New buzz word? Seeing that racism is becoming watered down?
SACP must go? Go where 🤣.
Disappointimg Mike. This guy is a huge socialist. Nowhere has socialism worked. But you let him attack you .
You a liar you don't even know the history of ask me Who was your first Prime minister in South Africa
Your problem, Mike, you're an Uber Liberal. Always was and always will be.
You are correct> I am a classic liberal, not a neo-liberal which is a different thing. I believe in rights for all, as long as it is in the interests of the many. I believe in personal freedoms with good laws. The belief that every person is in the best position to know what he or she wants, this is progressive. The opposite is when the state tells you what you want; this is regressive and this is what communism advocates.
Explain how it is a problem?
What worries you
Who me?