Southern Black Americans Were Angry. Historian Who Lived It Presents The Jim Crow South
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- The time was 1989. I was interviewing almost 200 carefully selected experts and ordinary citizens for my television series on the 1960s titled Making Sense of the Sixties. Each individual selected was unique in their ability to present their story and if you are watching this, the chances are you have already watched other clips from my 1989 interviews.
The speaker is Manning Marable and I will never forget my interview with him. He was incredibly clear thinking in part because he had seen and he had lived through what he was describing. Before the interview began, I asked him to be direct and honest about how he felt - no hyperbole. That he did in spades.
Manning Marable was a professor at Columbia University and a passionate admirer of Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, of whom he wrote an autobiography.
At the time, I was not a fan of Malcolm X but Maning got me to appreciate the good side of the man rather than to focus only his early anti-white and anti-Semitic statements.
Manning Marable was born and raised in Dayton, Ohio. His mother was a ordained minister who held a PhD. In April 1986, at the behest of his mother, 17-year-old Manning covered the funeral of Martin Luther King Jr. for Dayton’s black newspaper. That started his career.
Manning Marable held no quarter for what some black Americans were expressing at that time. Afrocentrism - looking at history from an African perspective rather than looking at history from a European perspective. He wrote (and I can hear him saying this):
"Afrocentrism was a theory that served the upwardly mobile black petty bourgeoisie. It gave them a sense of ethnic superiority without requiring the hard, critical study of historical realities. It was the latest theoretical construct of a politics of racial identity, a worldview designed to discuss the world… but never really to change it.”
Manning Marable died in 2011 at 61 years old.
I thank him for the power and clarity of his interview.
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Here is another powerful personal story From 1989 -
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The reason for both maga and woke rage is that we are all n-words now, regardless of race or politics
Racist someone or something that adheres to or supports racism. Racism is an ideology based on race as denoted by the suffix _ism_ and root word race. White supremacism is a political ideology based on race or racism again as denoted by the suffix _ism_ and based on race via the adjectival noun "white" in regards to the idea that the white race is supreme. White supremacism *is* racism. It is the *only* ideology based on race or _racism_ that exists in western society in an applied, practical and non-theoretical manner.
I was 15 years old in 1989 growing up in suburban New Jersey. I experienced covert racism on a near daily basis in my predominantly white town and highschool. I didn't realize the level of stress that put me in until I attended an HBCU.
@Bronzed Rage Have u thought abt counseling with the root of the stress? Your own race acknowledging you wasn't enough? You felt they were covertly against you, and you let it influence your choice of school. It's obviously still bothering you that those particular kids ignored you. Look at it this way: do you think they perceived you and think about school the way you do even after all these years?
@@RePlaylist1 Man what? The girl obviously made a smart decision. She realized “them white folks don’t like me and my life is much better with people who do like me, which are people that look like me and are not racist”. It’s that simple, its human nature to coalesce with those who are similar to you, (even more natural if those people treat you well unlike any others) what kind of Sigmund Freud questions are you asking?
@@RePlaylist1 ....Huh?!?
@@RePlaylist1 huh, do you know what an HBCU is?
@@RePlaylist1 tell us your stupid and racist without a true confession.
The sad truth is when the abused dog barks back the mean owner would rather kill it on the spot then help it heal.
While this analogy has problematic connotations, it does not make it any less powerful or less true
You think Black people are abused dogs? What are white people?
@@tcrijwanachoudhury 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@kmsleyang8972what does that mean
@@DaBaSoftware the “problematic connotations bit” it’s just an analogy and it’s a proper one…no one is actually saying anyone black is a dog. I get so tired of extra sensitive people. Looking to make everything a problem or racist or semi racist. And before you go off. I am black I am just extremely light my great grandfather was half white and this is just how I came out. 🤷🏻♀️
I grew up near Walton County GA. It was repressed even in the 90s. My cousins lived in a predominantly black neighborhood because that was where the poor lived. Even now, the downtown is posh and picturesque, but go 2 blocks over and you start seeing how it hasn’t really changed that much.
Another aspect of the “perverse blessing” of Jim Crow was that black Americans actually had thriving economies of their own. Was there poverty? Yes. But they had their own banks and businesses.
I agree
Have you ever heard of the destruction of Tulsa Oklahoma??!! They had that too and it didn't save them from white violence and destruction of millions of dollars of their money and property.
Also was the time any white person could pull you out of your home and lynch and castrate you at a whim. Also blacks were given old school books to learn old information.
I'm 65 years and remember well
@@spirithawk2418 Tulsa wasn’t the only place where blacks had a thriving economy.
And still we fight against this so call freedom that is not equally received
Then thy u.s government sanctioned bombing them from the skies
I was taken back by how young he actually died. He looked like he was 50 or 60 in this interview and I was super surprised that he was only 39 there. He was wise beyond his years and probably had seen a lot of stress in his life. An eloquent man.
WHoa, I'm 39, and he looks like he could be my father!
Everybody looked old back then, 25 year olds all looked 35-40 back then kol
@@johnblaze6269 yeah because people dressed themselves differently but having almost full gray hair for a 39 year old is just not something you see often
That's crazy. I'm 38 ad nd he looks like he could be my father. Must the went get early.
Being raised under the thumb of extreme oppression will do that.
I grew up in Boston during the 1950s and my first two close friends were Afro-American and Native American. I didn't see hard core racism until I was stationed at fort Rucker in Alabama. I became close to a black from Montgomery and we went to visit his family. Tom and I were walking down a street in Montgomery and I was jumped because I was with my black friend. I spent a week in the hospital and we wanted revenge but his parents talked us down.
You say you grew up in Boston in the 1950s and yet you didn't see hardcore racism until you went to Alabama?? 🤨 With all due respect, I straight-up don't believe you...or if anything, I suspect that you're either forgetting a lot of what you saw or just didn't see a lot of what was going on around you in the first place 🤔
@@WestIndianAK he didn’t see it until it affected him directly. I totally believe that.
Any White or non Blacka who are against Reparations for Blacks, are Racist☝🏾
I call a bullshit flag on story as Joe Biden would say "come on man" you can make up a better life than that.
@@shermhart7617 you call it what you want. You don't know me life was different back then. I went to the Patrick Cambell Jr high school which was 80% black I was one of two white guys on the baseball team and I could go on and on. The only time we saw racism was in South Boston. They were pure haters of anything not Irish.
_Making Sense of the Sixties_ was an amazing documentary series that David Hoffman ought to be perpetually proud of.
Thirty-two years after I first watched it (I was a young teen, at the time), and I still think of it fondly, and often.
Thank you so much for the comment and for taking the time to make it. My series seems to have affected many people who were young at that time and given them a sense of who their parents were or weren't.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker,
You definitely tried (and the effort is evident) to present us with a slice of America which, as a Canadian, I really appreciated.
I get Manning's point. Black America was a civilization within a civilization during those Jim Crow years. A 'perverted blessing' as he said. This man was a great thinker.
This is what we need right now in the USA. When I was a student at the University of Colorado. We asked president Gordon Gee to provide more African American professors to get a different perspective. He hired Manning Marabel. I wish I could have taken a class that he taught, this clip was really on point.
Just having such a wise person on campus must've been quite a message of itself. Between 2 MA community colleges- LA, finishing w legal studies, acct cert followed by Bus Adm transfer Assoc (few class remain), only POC female Spanish teacher, and decade later, finally a black male was so glad to see, but said not black (my son biracial), so respectful of intricacies of a descriptor based on color- I don't like my own being 8 nationalities of my own, add 2 for my son Native West Indian and American. I shared this video to him, as a new rap artist with a new album, to not lose sight of all our ancestor's experienced in the US leading to today's being very individual, materialistic and not keeping these truths in sight while many of these things are still entrenched in people today. My son was hazed in the Marines in past 5 years, while I was reading a book by a POC angry how the military recruits the fatherless POC yet does not promote them as the high ranking remain white. I warned my son, but the recruiters played on his youth and lack of options. Fortunately my only child didn't deploy, and home on Adm Sep after field duty injuries that he's walked off best he can for now. But yes racism prevalent from my youth to today. Recall walking w POC, the bag clutching, loss of white friends while my group became diverse. The us and them mentality is very active in the US and stoked by recent political party involvement to all shades of poor, immigrant, and melanin rich. I want to remind my son to be mindful of his messaging, while surrounded by many close white associates in a formerly suburban area and not too close with either side of older family
What a pathetic request.
Thomas Sowell is a better option for the job
Thomas Sowell is an conservative economist, while Manning is a political scientist. That is a big difference; besides, Thomas Sowell will never leave Stanford.
R.I.P. Manning Marable! 11 years too long now😔
Why have I never heard of this smart, well spoken, seemingly unafraid Black man?? Dude should have been my hero!!
You never let us down when it comes to your documentations. Thank you for showing the world perspectives they might have not otherwise have seen
Thank you. These type interviews/docs need to continue to be taught. I grew up on Tony Brown's Journal, Angela Davis, Stokely Carmichael poets such as Nikki Giovanni and many black consciousness. This gave us pride, we went to college, we protested then we had children and we protested less, believed things would change for our children then generation after generation that anger popped up under a different world order in a different direction. Look at many of our young men and women today, so far removed from the early ideological black fight.
Too many baby daddys and baby mamas.
The white man will call it CRT
@@aarondigby5054 They will be lost once this generation dies off. Many are clueless to the price that was paid for their freedom.
@@DieselPurgethey already do. -a Floridian
@@DaBaSoftware Yes I know 😔
I tell people all the time that racism did me a favor. My father who served in WWII was not allowed to fight, although trained. He and other black men pilled potatoes. My beautiful and smart mother was not able to pursue her dream of becoming an historian. So, when my father got out of the Army and walked into my Aunt's Diner, and saw my mother, that event would not have happened. If allowed to fight on the front line, my father would probably have been killed. My mother would not have been in her Aunt's Diner but away at college (my mother was almost 20 years younger). Since professional women did not have many children, she would not have had seven children. Since I was the third of seven, I probably would not have been born. My mother always told us to take advantage of the opportunities that we've been given because had she had them, she would not have had seven children. We laughed but knew she was serious. We did not disappoint her. Almost all of us received advanced degrees. So, even out of an horrific racist environment, some beautiful flowers still grow.
Your mom is awesome... but I warn you, when a family enters the middle-class, it often acquires both the good and bad habits of affluence... my families great grand parents were dignified hardworking poor people who dragged their kids into college... but now most of us are sucked into the same morass that most of the secular mainstream society is these days... so don't lose touch with your childhood and your mother's honest background... otherwise your kids might run around with dyed hair and confused attitudes!
Mr. Hoffman, thank you so much for sharing the interview. As I listened to Dr. Marable, I couldn't help but shed a tear or two, as much for the gross indignities of the present as the heinous oppression of the past. Yes, times have changed, but the more things change. . . .
'We are no longer on the back of the bus, we now drive the bus, but yet as of date we are still on that buss!'
Thank you for documenting this. I am a doctorate student doing research on the Black experience, and this interview is invaluable in understanding the effects of racism and historical trauma, not only to those directly affected but also to society as a whole.
1989-the year I was born! Thank you so much for sharing with all of us here
There is a profundity within this interview that raises issues that go beyond “racism.” One is the way in which oppressed people draw on their own strengths and community and culture, for their sense of identity and not the shallowness of affluence. I think the words are, “it covers all bases,” and quite magnificently at that.
Thanks David. Very thoughtful piece. Dr. Marable taught at Fisk in the eighties and, while I would come to work as an administrator there much later, I always took every opportunity to view his papers in the archives. This is a very special perspective and has great relevance in these times.
Thank you. I think that the relevance to these times is obvious and powerful. That's one of the reasons I posted his wonderful monologue.
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What he was saying about not being able to swim in white pools is true. When white communities built their pools in those days they expected it to be "White Only." And they wouldn't let a non-white person anywhere near the pool. I remember the black model Beverly Johnson's story about going to a white pool with a friend. When people saw her get in the pool they got out. She said that, during this time, she had no idea what everyone was doing. The friend later told her they drained the pool! This exemplifies the type of pathology Europeans are capable of. They go from constant war with each other in Europe to one big homecoming in America, and everyone is an outsider--an other--except them!
Your son's takeaway on this reminded me of something I came across when I used to work for a local community college that was founded back in the 1950's. At one point, they were looking to relocate our department into one of the older buildings on campus and I was given the chance to look at the blueprints to see how we could shoe-horn all of our staff inside. Some of the prints showed how the building had been renovated over the years, and I was actually shocked to see that originally there had been three bathrooms labelled on the plan as W, N, and M. It baffled me at first, then it dawned on me what the N stood for. Looking through the pages, it seemed over the years that third bathroom was turned into a storage closet then eventually sliced in half and joined with the woman's and men's. But my overall thought after seeing that was gee... Didn't they realize back then that if we just got over our differences and worked together there would have been more toilets and a whole lot less discomfort in the world?
This should be shown in schools 4 times a year, at the beginning of each season….and for the record, it’s still like this today, even though in different shapes and forms….
I totally agree with you. So true today. They think we're stupid.
What a proud and completely true statement this is, David! This should be in American history archives. I wish this man was still alive.
I don’t know why I wrote the word “proud,” I think it was an autocorrection. It’s out of context. I think I meant to write, “important,” because it is!
@@SusannahPerri good one
Thank you for documenting this man’s experience and the uncomfortable facts he presents. We must never forget!
Great interview here David! Thanks! I've always watched and listened closely to Manning, even as a young person myself in 1989 I liked how pragmatic he was✌
This is EVERYTHING that was wrong with the potential for a much GREATER success as a result of our struggle. Integration was a huge economic TRICK that continues to haunt us to this very day. Separation was, is, and forever will be the SOLUTION to the future plight of Black people in America. 🎯
The XO on our DDG Destroyer was a black man and I respected that man greatly. He was a good equal man and was fair I went up to 2 XO masts while on duty. He was a good guy and all I ever got was a little extra duty. He knew how hard our jobs were. We were part of the era when everything started to change in this country.
Now I understand why we moved to California. I was 4... and sad.
Those pictures are so moving.....
I look at that white women with nothing but hate and rage in her face and I cannot understand it.....I simply cannot process how you could hate a person for whom you do not know, has never harmed or hurt you or loved ones in any way......has never oppressed you...is not even a threat to you!....
It must of been exhausting trying to oppress a people in the most absurd ways imaginable.
I saw that same snarl of hatred on the faces of whites at Charlottesville and the Capitol on Jan 6th, it doesn't make sense unless you factor in racism.
Yes, I feel exactly the same way!! I can't understand and reconcile in my heart and mind why you would want to hurt someone like this. But, sadly you still see this happening even to this day in all kinds of forms; not just racially motivated. It saddens me. I look for opportunities when I'm out in public to have a friendly/kind word, or offer to help someone, then wish them a beautiful day; whatever is appropriate for the moment. I wish every person desired to bring respect and kindness into this world every day. It feels so good to honor another person.
So everyone can now make anti white comments and no one cares
@@lgfisher8463 You watch too much TV. Desantes 2024
He won’t make it past the primary. Cuba is only in Florida.
The stories from my grandparents from Alabama still have me shuttering today.
All of your interviews that I have seen from your documentary on making sense of the 1960's that you did in 1989 are excellent! I've said this before I don't think we can ever really make sense of the 1960's but I enjoy hearing interviews by those who lived through it! as you know it was an extraordinary and turbulent time period to have lived through. Peace, love and happiness David Hoffman.
Yes indeed it was some troublesome time, but with prayer and faith some of made it through. Thanks God for watching over us.
Tell the truth my brother. I am 66 years old and i lived it all. Moving frim the south to the north i lived everything he's talking about.
Everyone in the world needs to watch this interview
Thank you and God Bless Mr. Hoffman. These documentaries you are sharing are incredible. They truly can help shape the future. You have done your part on this earth 🙏
How insightful intelligent and just shear power was Malcolm X. A person that can see light in all the darkness and the ability to concretely speak to it.
This sums up exactly what I thought about the rebuttals to the Kerner Commission finding racism as the source of the 1967 race riots.
Black Southerners were so throughly engulfed by Jim Crow even the consideration of violent action against it would be unthinkable. It would simply bear too many risks, too terrible consequences, and could easily end like Nat Turner’s Rebellion. With more oppression.
"By suffering, by accepting the hot coffee thrown in your face, by accepting the police dogs that were hurled at you, you were able to stand up and say Yes, I am a man, I am a woman and I have the courage and dignity to NOT FIGHT BACK for a higher political purpose. That was infinitely harder than fighting back."
I don't think I've ever heard anyone summarize and capture the spirit of the Civil Rights Movement better. We really need to remember this in this age. It's so easy to get angry, to fight back to match the energy of those that seek to oppress you, it so much harder to not fight back in certain situations. It shows how well our people understood their foe and devised an ingenius plan to defeat them.
Hey David I really enjoyed this interview, im 19 and I would say it definitely gave me more perspective on the civil rights movement and the Jim Crow era. What he said about North vs South during that time was especially interesting as I had never heard of that before. Thank you for sharing your work!
Very interesting Mr. Hoffman. As a 46 y/o black male still learning about the history of my ancestors and the treatment of Afro Americans in the U.S I want to thank you for sharing this interview.
Thank you Mr Hoffman. It's folks like you who give us hope in this land we can do so much more together than apart Rise to your potential It's Worth It So Many Have Been Sacrificed Already 🇺🇸
Thanks to David Hoffman for this Lovely retrospective short! I, too, was once privileged to have met Dr. Marable, a wonderful man, a Family man, the type of man who embodied Brotherhood on so many levels. And he was KIND to people.
He never used his erudition as an excuse to look down on or to look askance toward anybody!! Always accessible, always thoughtful.
I WISH I still had my original copies of his books, “Speaking Truth to Power” & “Beyond Black & White!”
So insightful, so pinpoint accurate, & so relevant to his time & this time.
It deeply saddened me when he died, & what great potential for meaningful (scholarly & economic) reformation was LOST with his death! Just that one death, in the wake of so many, many others.
Had he lived a couple decades more, the “infrastructure” of his ideas would have taken material shape-I have no doubt.
It’s too bad that the New Jim Crow is designed to discredit his works & those of many great scholars of Thought under the umbrella of so-called “CRT.”
I don’t believe that things are measurably “different” today because the signage has been taken down & we can all go to the public bathrooms & enter common public spaces to spend & splurge.
As Ms. Yvette Carnell has stated many times: “ADOS/Black people are still bottom-caste, …we remain tethered to the bottom strata of the society,” as wave upon wave of new citizens, by birth or by migration, washes over us, all learning in their turn to denigrate, disparage, blame & shame the descendants of those who endured antebellum enslavement, lynchings, bombings, all manner of daily atrocities & “new” forms of systemic systematic disparity-with no remittance-to make place for those without historical context-based much more on artfully contrived “race” than on so-called “class.”
The latter of which is merely a fleeting illusion for those persons classified “Black” in the economic, political, legal, social, & educational, sexual & religious structures of the society.
Like David Hoffman’s son, many young Nonwhite people remain confused, racially illiterate, & too quick to grasp at shortcuts in attempting to comprehend just what mandatory state-imposed segregation (the superficial kind) was really about.
On the surface, it appeared like a separate-but-equal lunchroom. In reality, its scope was designed to ensure legalized unequal Outcomes. Outcomes which persist, despite all the hiding of the visually inculpatory evidence, BUT which zoning, tracking, funding & gerrymandering denote to this day without question.
We (as a nation-concept) shall not have the kind of opportunity to substantiate “change” that Dr. Marable envisioned again, nor look upon his ilk anytime soon. “Sometimes opportunities are simply lost,” as a good friend recently remarked to me.
It took too long to produce just one Manning Marable & “his hour” was, as always, far too short.
Peace, Blessings, Truth, Justice, Correctness to All during the Holy Season. Thanks again for reminding us all who we are, where we’ve been, & what it will require to be the most constructive people that ‘history’ may yet produce! 🇺🇸🕯🌲⚖️🕯🌲
That’s awesome you got to meet him. I was 17 in 1989 a senior in high school and this is the first time I’ve heard of this great educator. My parents were born into the Jim Crow south. His voice is just as important today. The older I get I am seeing history really does repeat itself.
@@dreamyx01 Not only does history “repeat,” but the Patterns that formulate racial/class systems & dynamics (between people) remain intact-for centuries!! I’m sorry that there are fewer people today who “walked among” the Dr. Marables, Dr. Tourés, Dr. Huey Lewises & sooo many more as we Baby Boomers were honored & blessed to have done-so CASUALLY, without a thought about it!! 🥰☺️🙃🙃😊
But a FEW of us were listening & learning something.
I recommend that you try to order or purchase some of Manning Marable’s books! Any of them are WELL worth the read, as he was a careful, thorough, & thoughtful Educator, who wrote mainly for young students, but he (eventually) gained a wider audience, too; & went on to even becoming a best-selling, award-winning sociologist/political theorist through his published works!! A brilliant man, & as I mentioned, very kind, very down-to-earth.
His cousin & I happened to have been classmates, long ago. I could say her character is much the same, so maybe some families have IMPORTANT traits in-common, that have nothing whatsoever to do with “race” or class. 😊💕
Enjoy the readings! Best Wishes & Thanks for reminding me where I came from! 🕯🙏🏽🌲🕯🙏🏽🌲🕯
Thank you for posting these interviews. Such a service.
Outstanding series. I grew up in the Jim Crow south. Still a bizarre memory, many years later.
Thank you for these precious commentaries on our history. I hope it will inspire current and future generations to combat the systemic oppression that persists.
Mr Hoffman what a great interview you did a excellent job with the gentlemen. Now I am from CA and I don't remember that there in the 60s. I am from the greater San Francisco Bay area
Thank you, David, for doing this. It means more than you can imagine! Love, light, and peace to you, your loved ones, and your audience.
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You always put out some really neat and informative stuff! 🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋
Thank for doing this interview and sharing it.
Manning Marables this man was a genius and one of the best guy I have read in this country!!!
David ? the things you bring to the world and Public awareness are by far priceless to come today to carry new generations' thoughts into a Higher level . I humbly give you all the respect and ask the Gods and Goddesses of heaven to bless you and your family and may they grant you a Long and prosperous Life . thank you David , Thank you .
I grew up in south Florida
During the 80’s and 90’s
Been called every racial slur
Got beat up by police multiple times for next nothing before I turned 16 I had been assaulted by police well over a dozen times
Namely Hollywood police department and broward sheriffs officers
Always great videos. So interesting and educational. Such a well explained documentary. Thank you for sharing David
Very thought-provoking interview.
Dr. Marable! I miss this guy. I was fortunate enough to have taken 2 classes with him during my time at IRAAS. The preeminent scholar!
Great interview! Thank you.
Very good interview of a very sad issue.🙏
I am trying to unite the past to the present.
Still can't because of the gap that exists 😪
You are quite right. What he experienced no longer exists for the most part. But the covert, subtle, biases remain and still cause harm
I see so many parallels between what he spoke and what I witness today as a Gen Xer.
Mr. David, I watch your work often and I really appreciate the work you have done. I wasn't born during some of your videos and some I was too little to know what was actually happening. Yet I feel I was there sometimes. I've had questions like, what were the Black ppl doing back then during this era or that era and you managed to capture time for us. Thank you for helping us modern age Reparationist and Freedom fighters know who these living bigots are. Because some of these folks are still alive in congress and the white house today. Finishing what their fathers started and teaching the next generation to be freedom tyrants.
Thanks for this David !
Thank you David.
Wow. Just wow. Powerful!!
Listen/read to claude Andersen and boyce Watkins blacks wealth is dismal that speaks volumes about this country and the repression that still continues. Dr. Joyce D. On the trauma of slavery and the burden that's carried from generations. The political are still neglecting the black citizens. How does a country move foward to support the citizens who have been so severely impacted every generation??
Thanks for sharing this video today David Hoffman film maker.🎥🙂👍
Mr. Hoffman, I love your work and greatly appreciate you.
I do not watch every video you upload, I am just too busy to watch them all, but when I see a new upload from you that catches my eye, it always makes my day. The way you cultivated and then captured that raw emotion and truth in this video and many others will fasinate the future for many years as we will be able to remember that mentality actually going around and the true feelings that no one had to say because everyone always felt it.
*David Hoffman The Jim Crow South Manning Marabel appreciate your videos Listening 🌟 from Mass USA TYVM 💙 David*
Thank you Mr. Hoffman. Peace
The picture of the children looking into the swimming pool is heartbreaking.
And this is what they don’t want taught in schools , CRT 😂 … they did all this to us and they can’t even be reminded of it
@@L0kias1 I experienced it in an oblique manner in 1964.
Why I get so irritated when people make fun of black folks for not being able to swim. There is a reason for that. Actually my mom never learned how to swim- maternal side is from Montgomery AL- so she made sure her kids learned. We took swimming lessons. My sis actually became a proficient diver
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How can he have this entire interview and not mention once the Undeniable Evil that Democrat Party inflicted on the Black Community. From Andrew Johnson to LBJ… it is unquestionable and bizarre…
My opinion is that of another white man from England: how does a white person honestly feel about black reparations?! This is the deciding factor for me! Some of the other things that Jane Eliot was doing was also helpful, but this is the one thing that white racists do not want blacks to have and, yet, is far more deserving than any group that already has been given it by the gov't(Jane sounds like Abrams when she includes Native Americans in the black reparations discussion in order to sidewind her way out of having to give an emphatic YES and expound that YES)!
How did a Native American respond to Abrams?! She said that democrat politicians, etc. needed to stop including them in the reparation discussion, because they already had it! Now, despite the positive things that Jane Eliot has represented, she is still racist against blacks and apart of the white supremacist system! Likewise, if you are white, black, or whatever color and do not support black reparations, then you are racist and apart of the white supremacist system! This is my opinion, but I am sure that's the way a lot of blacks see it!
This is what’s missing in our community. Elders passing down culture, wisdom, morals, guidance and self love. This well spoken brother truly is appreciated.
David Hoffman these documentaries are priceless
As a black woman who lives up
North and interracially dates white men but is single by choice at the moment, I can honestly say that so much of that is still going on today. I have encountered a lot of racism and I am in my thirties.
I am not going to go back and forth with anyone on here about how far we as black people have come because there is no need, my feelings are valid and based on my own volatile experience. I can tell that there have also been positive changes and progress.
I appreciate you showing this video to us and you showing this to your 16 year old son as well, it's important.
What was the point of writing about your interracial dating? I don't see how it's integral to your statement.
It is still going on because ww keep it going. they're the gate keepers. but these bm don't see it that say. good luck to you sis.
You will continue to experience racism until you die.It's unfortunate that individuals from the dominant society have a sickness of mind,and hart.The question to is, how has interracial dating changed your life?
Great lecture!
I must say that when I heard Manny’s disillusionment over the 1964 Democratic Convention and his view that liberalism had died with RFK, I felt that he “needed a talking to” by the wise “conservative” “elders” in the southern Black community that he spoke so lovingly about earlier in his talk. His sense of impatient righteousness…as justified as it might be…overwhelms the patient pragmatism that he seemed to have been describing in his elders.
BTW…Read 2022s: “Wastelands: The True Story of Farm Country on Trial” by Corbin Addison for a fascinating look at the politics and norms in one section of the agricultural south. Both enraging and uplifting.
Much of what we call American culture is African American in origin and directly shaped in the cauldron of coping mechanisms Blacks needed to simply survive.
Education was the one thing outside of the love and admiration of ones family, that could not be taken away. How can you oppress what I Already know? It's a strategic way of obtaining liberation.
He was right.👍🏿 Same Malcolm X said about separation, it is better to have separation than segregation, or even integration. At least Black people can have the space to create our own opportunities without any interruption.
I know the people who are listening here are not the ones who NEED to hear this.
FOR ME A CHILD DURING THE 60'S I SAW CRAZINESS BECAUSE MY UNCLE CHARLIE WAS A MAN WHO NEVER BOWED DOWN TO THE CONTINUED JIM CROW BEHAVIOR NOTED IN MISSISSIPPI LOUSIANA AND MEMPHIS THAT I WITNESSED AS A CHILD
LOVED the comparison he made of Malcolm X & Martin Luther King Jr. I don't come across many who can see that the latter X, (after the pilgrimage, hajj) was also the latter King.
Great information explained so well!
My grandparents are Mexican and grew up in the south. I just literally got done asking them about it and why it is that it's always blacks that talk about them their treatment and Mexicans never really say much. They just told me that it was nowhere near as bad for Mexican people as it was for black people. That whites were actually very tolerant of them and it was only certain places or people that would not let them in or deal with them but for the most part everybody was pretty accepting of Mexicans. Strange In My Mind that you would prejudice against one color and not all colors
It really begs the question though all of this of where people today are getting off saying that "institutional racism" is still a thing and that blacks or people of any ethnicity don't have the same rights and opportunities to advance themselves nowadays. People parents and more likely now their grandparents or great grandparents may have experienced horrible racist jim crow policy, but nobody today has ever been segregated, or told they can't be somewhere or do something because they are whatever colour. And they especially have NEVER BEEN A SLAVE.
If black people were still slaves they would be accepted better. Those same white people would let the black folk cook and clean their homes and sleep in their attic if they could exploit their labor.
Sounds like Texas in the 50s
White people in south saw Hispanics and Asians as more like them. This was the difference. Black people were considered inferior creatures and not at all like white people even though blacks people are human beings. There was an interview of some white woman in a neighborhood where they were considering desegregating the housing. She said that she wouldn’t mind Latino or Asian people but black people were not the same and couldn’t mix with proper white people. It may have been in the Eyes on the Prize series I think. Excellent series btw
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The stats say black people still have a harder time staying employed, have a harder time getting home loans compared to equally-qualified white people, and resumes with black-sounding names get less callbacks than resumes of equally-qualified people who happen to have white-sounding names.
Black people do drugs at the same rate as whites, but they're 13 times more likely to go to prison for it.
Black people are 3x as likely to be killed by police.
Black people are more likely to go to underfunded public schools. Black people are less likely, because of racial discrimination, to get parental monetary gifts for college. Meaning they either don't go to college, or rack up more debt than other demographics.
They generally are still the last hired and first fired. Their payscale is lower. On average, by several thousand a year below white people.
But no, systemic discrimination isn't real. /s
Even though I'm white, I identify with those men and women who actually stood up. I identify with not being able to just accept people being awful to people. I identify with not lying down, and accepting that the world just is how it is. It worries me that so many sides are being formed that are supposedly opposed to each other. Most people who care have no idea that there are just so few of us who are actually the type to do something, and not just get upset every now and then and go back to living life. Everything bothers me, it bothers me to the point I think about it all day, every day. It also forms this type of pain in people that it will stain relations between people for at least a few more decades. I'm hoping that on both sides of this black and white coin, that the images of the past fade away, and the only thing left is the value of the coin itself, never again to be remembered as the same object as before. It is to be moved past in all aspects, remembered only as far as to how not to treat one another. It shouldn't be used as leverage to throw up lines between us today either, which is one of the hardest asks. It seems to me disrespectful to not only the pain of black americans in the past, but all human beings who had hope that who they were was more important than where they came from or what they looked like. If we travel the stars, and still value the pigment of one's skin, then every one of us has failed.
Are you willing to face consequences to stop injustice?
And I'm not asking a rhetorical question, more a question to ask yourself?
The police don't like demonstrators. The far right is showing up with long guns these days.
If you feel it, get involved with a local group. We can all do a little, be a drop in that river.
Remember, race and racism was _invented_ as a tool of economic oppression. Keeps us workers divided and conquered.
Thank you this is wonderful, I've just been trying to learn more about this part of history. Your interviews always seem to enable me to understand what the people who lived it actually felt.
I love your channel Elder Brother. A great book you would definitely enjoy is "The Sixteen trends" by Gary Marx. Keep publishing, we need it.
Great interviews as always David. As a younger person born in the 70's I still believe African Americans are suppressed in different ways in today's world. While it may not be like it was in the 50's, there is still a lot of white resentment in the south. I live in the south so I can say this from my perspective. I grew up in a closeted racist family where I was the outcast that disagreed with them.
I would like to understand your view about your bring back the 50's t shirt David. I'm just curious is all.
When I was making my Merch Gregg, I asked my subscribers at the time for suggestions on comments in addition to the ones that I had made up for words to go on the shirts. A segment of my audience liked "bring back the 50s" and that's why I made the shirt, for them. I would not choose to bring back the 50s but I understand people's desire to think that things were better before then they are now. A segment of the population has been thinking that since the ancient Greek and Roman days.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker excellent David and completely understand that. Again I was just curious. I chuckled a bit at the roman/Greek thing. I can't say I understand people that think that way, but they exist and are people and I respect that. Thanks for replying back. Take care
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker . My parents experienced the Jim Crow South. My mother was denied a public education for 5 years after the Brown vs. Board of Education. The racist whites sent their kids to private schools with tax payer money. Jim Crow was also about stopping the building of generational wealth of black people.
Manning was a very wise well spoken man.
The world needs more people like him.
Much respect. ✌️
Thank you. I agree Olivia.
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Thank you, as someone who was born after this interview its insightful to be able to listen to a perspective from someone who actually lived through jim crow.
Are you only around white people? My grandparents and parents lived in the Jim Crow south and actually left the south in the mid 60s to escape it- left to NY state specifically. This is a common story for many black peoples who grew up in the south at that time. This isn’t ancient history to just be remembered. Talk to black people living now who experience this. They will tell you the stories about this stuff.
I frequently remark that democracy has us needing what we never wanted. A key instance of this is the mortgage; in this respect, redlining was a blessing in disguise. As long as land and building prices were depressed, poor neighborhoods could maintain continuity and thus community. As soon as redlining was lifted, mortgages invaded those neighborhoods and used the affluent as the gentry in gentrification. The increasing homelessness among, and the bigotry in the administration of housing subsidies against, my more melanated friends and former neighbors is a direct consequence of the mortgage. We need first to #AbolishTheMortgage if we are ever going to see freedom in this country.
Awesome interview, I appreciate your efforts to make clear several things that enlighten the views of your channel
Outstanding. Thank u.
Oh and bless your son. He at 16 saw the stupidity of the rules. That's a mouthful being the intended result. I bet the folks supporting segregation hadn't even put that together. They just didn't want Black folks to feel free to move about as they did. Sad
I'm 57 years old and I'll never forget when we went to a shoe store here in Waco Texas I couldn't try on shoes and that's what's my first experience with segregation I believe I was 6 or 7 years old then and I'll never forget that I'm still in Texas today but things haven't changed all that very much oh you can try on shoes now but different stuff hadn't changed and if anybody tells you that Texas has changed it has not all that much
Thank you much
Maaannn I still get mad when I think about the things my ancestors went through and the things my relatives who are living have to endure.
I’m talking about an employer of one my relatives promoting him but refusing to train him on anything because he is black.
Then accusing of being stupid all the while he is training his new boss to do his job.
But there will be a day of reckoning!
The Lord will hear turn things around.
This footage and information from this man is immeasurably invaluable.
Did you see that picture of Jerry Jones, the owner of the Cowboys, protesting the integration of his school?