Fixing My Biggest Gripe with my Kitfox
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Don't sell yourself short Trent! Most of us that work with equipment totally appreciate how much work U put in! I hate to say it, in todays world U have to protect yourselve liability wise!
Our glider club (North Florida Soaring in Jacksonville) fabricated a similar device out of tubing. It clamped to the rudder peddles and the control stick. Our gliders are not hangared although we did purchase full covers for the wings, fuselage, and tail feathers. We've alsos used PVC tubing for the rudders. The tubing was cut to a length that we overlap fore and aft about midway on the rudder. We glude caps on the ends, drilled a holes at each end, covered the tubing with pipe insulation, and used 5' screws with a wing nut to hold the tube in place. BTW - the parts are all easily found in the AIRCRAFT Aisle at Home Depot :)
Great product Trent. And the fact you're giving the design away shows you're here for the community as well.
Good on ya mate 😊
Thanks 👍
Light Sport aircraft are too rough to ride because of their light weight but it helps a little if the craft is loaded to MGTOW at take-off depending on the wx conditions.
A Cessna 150 is smoother in flight because of its heavier weight, (wing loading).
A Boeing triple 7 is even smoother because of its weight.@@TrentonPalmer
2:15 When I bought my plane the previous owner used two hockey sticks to gust lock the rudder... hinge at one end, bungee at the other, with pool noodle as a chafe guard. Not elegant, but very Canadian. I don't us it, and yours looks great.
Killer dude! This just makes me want a printer even more. The quality from that bambu carbon looks amazing. Don’t short yourself on design. It’s hard. And appreciated by those of us who’ve tried.
I just got a Bambu for my school. Amazingly fast and acturate printers. Im literally printing in half the time or better and the quality is so much better.
To give you an idea when you set it up and on every print it goes through a sequence of shakes at different frequencies. I was wondering why but i think i know. Any gear driven machine has lash in the gears if only a little. I think it shakes itself because as its so frigging fast its calculating the amount of excess movement -lash and then calibrating with software. This allowscit to get precision while still being 2x faster than other fdm printers ive used. It costs a little more but its speed means for class projects i can get more student work printed. Amazing.
Love seeing these projects Trend keep them comming.
Dude we all use a checklist I don't even fly planes I fly paramotors and we all use a checklist bro. Just because nobody puts it in a video doesn't mean that they don't have a checklist if they go through.
Good video Trent. A follower of my channel has printed out your design and shipped it to me in appreciation for my build videos. I’m excite to get home and open up the box, not to mention possibly finishing my build and get in the air. I like the lights in the hangar by the way, very cool. Keep putting out the content, it always delivers.
Very nice of you to offer to supply the design and/or device to others. I would be cautious about doing that beyond your circle of friends though. Because potential liability concerns always has to be factored into the equation.
Hey Trent! Absolutely fantastic concept, design, and implementation!! I know you mentioned the "REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT" flag (which I HIGHLY recommend), but even if you don't put one on, I would also recommend using red (or some other hi viz color) plastic to make it more highly visible. The NTSB database is rife with accidents - mostly fatal - due to gust lock installations that were missed during preflight. Give yourself EVERY opportunity to see and remove something that is preventing flight control mobility, even if putting your feet on the pedals makes it un-missable.
Nice design Trent. Very smart use of underdash frame for strong point reference, lightweight, and adjustibility.
Thanks!
Version 1, looked a bit flimsy, more a proof of concept. Version 2, looks like Da Bomb, solid, adjustable, completely refined. Thought for sure, you’d say that you’d be selling them, the fact that you’re giving the plans away - well, pure respect, sir, pure respect.
Hi Trend. Consider that if you lock the brakes and you have big upswing in the ambient temperature the pedals will push back as the hydraulic fluid expands and it could bend the tube where the bracket is clamping.
Trent. Great video stories. I’ve seen them all. Liked them so much I became a pilot 2 years ago, at 65 years old, and fly a Highlander. I just finished building my own 1,000’ grass airstrip here in NC. Keep the videos coming.
John
Great idea!
Another thing I immediately see a use for this is while towing. The padded pvc bars that we use to lock the rudder and elevator are ok, but this device will definitely offer added security to that rudder while also offering the ability to to apply the brake while on the trailer. Win win!
Trent ,thanks for the flying videos. I tried to fly but I’m way to old and disabled . I did meet Mark and I smile every time I remember buying him lunch… ❤
That's excellent Trent! I have been fretting over where to place my Beringer parking brake and worrying about the parking brake being on accidentally during landing, and now your video has me 99.9% convinced me this is the way to go... I get a simple parking brake that can't possibly be enabled during flight and a gust lock as well. That's perfect. Thanks Trent!
Trent - great piece of design work. Simple, effective and performs a couple of functions at once. As I was watching the first 2/3 of the video I was thinking of the accident that got Dale (Snort) Snodgrass and was thinking that you would want a flag on it for visibility, but then you covered that too. I guess if the brakes and rudder are locked you won't be able to taxi and it will be obvious well before you're airborne. Stay safe, and hope you get over the cold quickly.
I showed my son your previous video where you talked your printer. He said he believed you have the same printer as he has. I had him print me a Piper P-3, to be used as a weather vane. He used the design of a RC plane, printing it with UV resistant plastic. It has carbon rod reinforcement in the wings. So far, it's held up to the weather (wind!) in Joshua Tree.
That’s awesome! I should make one of those for in front of my hangar!
I'm a 3d printer/modeling enthusiast and a backcountry pilot (Citabria Explorer), and I think your new version is looks incredible. Like, super profesh and high tech. I can tell you put many many hours of work in. As others have said, don't sell yourself short, you have amazing design skills. I'd love to modify this for my Citabria. I also just wrap the seatbelts around the stick (one of the benefits of having a stick).
as someone who has spent the time teaching myself 3d modeling and printing… That is absolutely amazing, and would have taken me many many hours. Amazing he is sharing the files. If some jerk company comes along and modifies it slightly and files attempts to file a patent and make money off of this, they should be ashamed.
Super cool Trent! Based on the Snodgrass accident, building in a feature that makes it impossible to even get in the seat could be a life saver. There are times when you need to get out in a hurry, having a sure proof way to make sure it's not in place on takeoff could be critical.
Love the over-center function. Honestly impressed with your design and material choice considerations. Well done! I could possibly assist with printing for anyone near the Nürburgring in Germany.
Thanks for the great idea! I've been meaning to design a gust lock for my Lancair IV-PT for a while now and didn't even think to put my 3D printer to use on the task. Its been great for designing avionics and chocks and other items, but now, on to designing a gust lock!!
Trent great job. Good video. Hope you get to feeling better soon. I really enjoyed being your wingman.
So freaking cool! Love the ingenuity on the brake application feature. One thought is you may be able to increase strength and decrease weight if you removed all those holes. Those holes add more internal walls (more weight) and stress concentrations between the layers (less strength). Also CF ASA may be easier to print and have that high temp resistance you need along with the UV resist, it may also be slightly cheaper but i don’t quite remember. Such a cool project and keep up the good work!
My two Favorite things 3d printing and flying
As someone who does this kind of thing for a living (3D modeling and 3D printing) you knocked it out of the park Trent! That WAS a lot of work. Glad you have the skills to keep busy when you're "under the weather" (ha, ha- see what I did there?).
Wow, thanks! I still have a lot to learn but it’s been a fun challenge
@@TrentonPalmerWell done Trent .... be careful what sort of material you print them out off ...... I used PLA as my go to filament but then discovered it didn't stand up to UV very well. after about 6 months it would harden and go very brittle. Now printing with PETG and so far no problems
Wow Trent, that is amazing. You are really thinking outside. The box is really cool it’s no wonder you so successful you have that type of mindset that doesn’t give you fear of trying. You’re always out there thinking how to make a work and not worry about it not working which makes you very successful, it’s people like you that make us a better world. Thanks for doing some like that I’m playing like this it’s just makes everything better. I hope everything works and you get out of it what you want sincerely, someone has been watching you from almost the beginning, RAY Stone you’ve taught me a lot in new years and you’re probably 20 years younger than me just goes to prove anybody can do what they put their mind to. Thanks again Trent for keeping a positive mind and anybody who wants to do something.🎉❤😮😊
Thank you!!! 🙏🏻 I really appreciate the kind words
Are you going to put a Remove Before Flight Streamer on it or paint it a bright color or both? It's a device that is now blocking your rudder so never assume you will always notice it or remember it. And you might even forget to do a flight control check!! Never say never on that! I'm a retired aircraft mechanic and did some piloting. New some who were 'pilots' and were cocky. Your not and I appreciate that. One had a flight control lock close call that almost killed him so from that moment on he was a checklist by the book guru. He got a second chance!! I always used a checklist, wrote everything down from ATIS and was a stickler for that. Just wondering!! This second design is very clever though and looks like it will work very well. Well done sir!!!! Really enjoy your channel and quite enjoy the journey with your plane, friends and fly-ins.
Yep, I made a ring to attach a remove before flight tag!
A tag/ribbon, remove before flight is a good idea. Would be kind of slick to have a gust lock that hooked to the stick as well. Although I'm not quite sure just how one would go about it. Could get kind of complicated i suppose. And take up more room to stow.
see my note above. Our glider club fabricated gust locks out aluminum tubiing that clamped to the rudder pedals and stick.
@@jhmcglynn good idea, that's what I was eluding to, the stick and the rudder pedals with the same device.
Man that’s super cool. Great design and easy to use. Love to see 3d printing solving problems like this.
Thats pretty cool Trent !!!!! Great job !!!!! At first you don't seceded, Trent Trent again Be Blessed Be Safe.
We had a brake lock for doing alignments on cars. It's just a rod with a spring/lock that slides up and holds the pedals to the seat. Conversely, I've also used a hood prop to hold the brake, even just a stick would do the job.
Making things so they are simple, is HARD. Well done.
Super complicated design and that came through with the timelapse Fusion 3d footage. Getting it all to fit right with proper tolerances, adding cut out patterns - it just takes an inordinate amount of time. Nice work!
That's pretty sick! I need to figure something out for my old Citabria, I have the same problem. Certified aircraft may present some hiccups for it though. Excellent, simple and functional - I love it. Way to go!
Holy Smokes! Brilliant and it looks it may work for a number of other kit aircraft that also have a support bar at the bottom of the panel like Zenith 7xx, Bearhawk, and maybe even Cubs etc! Well done!
It's good to see you keep your hands busy on your down time. If I get a cold, all I do is sleep and watch movies...
Love the engineering side of you Trent! Awesome to watch these as well as flying videos! Get well!
That is a great rudder lock/parking brake idea and having it so simple is a plus in my book The old KISS principle.
Add some elastics and you've got a good crossbow /slingshot!
Now there's your dinner...😊
Looks like a great design to me. Great job. Everyone is an engineer, all you need is an idea that has value.
Good to see your helping the community with sharing my Files. Im going to print one for our Kitfox.
I have to say your over night, fly to the back country and spend the night are some of you best videos
The rudder pedals move differentially. All you need is one horizontal tube between them, that clamps around each pedal shaft firmly. Then the pedals can't move away from each other and the rudder itself stays fixed. Over center clamps on each end of the horizontal tube would make it easy to attach and detach.
That is a very good design! Emily the Engineer would be proud of that I reckon!!!
Great design Trent and I hope you get well soon!
Wow, great idea Trent! I've been looking at RV tow bars to see if i could make it work as a parking break. Your solution is WAY better and lighter. Thanks for sharing so freely. I thought Christmas was over? Apparently not!
Trent, I love the design! I’m always tinkering using my printer and my friends think I’m crazy haha - inventing new things is so satisfying!
Ingenious design for a significant fix of the problem you stated. Thanks.
fully 3d printed, adjustable over center. petg-CF. very impressive, sir. be proud. also loving my X1C.
Such a great design. So cool Trent. Really shows off the capability of what 3D printing does.
The videos like this are awesome it inspires me as an engineering student to think of things that could benefit people in the hobbies I like hobbies or in day to day life, and maybe someday create one of them.
Way to create your way around a problem! Would you think of making it in a brighter color just as an indicator that you still have it in use and easier to find at night/ in the back of the plane? Love the videos keep killing it!
Amazing job. And to share this for free is a really noble gesture.
Just got a 3D printer and want to print this ASAP. I have a RANS S-21 and will make a comment on the Pritables site what if any modifications are needed. Thank you for all you do for backcountry aviation!
Man that’s ingenious. Patent that thing. I use a bungee cord on my warrior from yolk to yolk and works great. We could even put it on the footpedals.
I feel your pain. That head cold has been making the rounds in Reno. I am just getting over it. Many people I know have it themselves or in the family. You found a better way to spend your down time than I did that's for sure.
That sounds to me like something most kitfox owners would want. You might be overwhelmed with orders if you decide to print them yourself. :)
Good morning from Minnesota! Great episode!
Love how you are causally great at 3d design. I love the design and 3d printer content
Thanks! I’ve still got a lot to learn but having fun with it
Simplicity and design with the compact I'd say you knocked it out of the park when I was looking at your first design I was thinking yeah you should kick it up underneath your dash low and behold 2.0. You could print them up and offer them for sale and I'm pretty sure people would snatch them in a heartbeat
Trent, good job, especially the over center toggle travel!
Hoping you or someone in the Rans S21 group can make one to sell. I'd be all over that! Good going, Trent.
Hey ! Awesome channel!
I actually had a costumer come into my shop and mention you. Glad he did!
I would love to get my pilot license in the near future when I have sufficient Funds for proper training.
But meanwhile… is there any good books you’d recommend to start ready to get working on my foundations?
Thanks again!
Keep up the great work! Glad to find someone local being a badass!
This is awesome! Looks like sooo much effort, well done dude!! I could totally use something similar on my old Champ, thought about it many times. 🤘🏻
Hope you are feeling better really soon. Really cool design
Your videos are amazing. I wish you got more views.
put a fishin rreeel mount on that TUBE RUDDER HOLDER and a slingshot launching thingie lol well some loops for the fishin line... :) 3 things one ting
If you ever listen to yourself talk, you wouldn’t realize how much of a geek you are on technical stuff you’re a lot smarter than you think lol a lot of people probably don’t even know what you’re talking about with the printer and everything in the materials and the carbon tubes the engineering class definitely stuck in your brain Thanks for all the information you’re given us. It’s actually very very interesting again best wishes and may your family always be healthy. Happy and wealthy.
Cool gizmo ! You are such a talented guy. Best wishes for 2024 !🍁🤙
Fusion is pretty intuitive but if you havent done it in a while its like a muscle you havent worked out. I'm printing some projects right now and trying to figure out why some things are not constraining, frustration! There's nothing better than problem solving for yourself and printing at your own place.
Rad work Trent, that's an excellent design.
I have a cut to length bungee cord that I wrap around my stick and secure it forward with hooks, so the elevator isn't in "launch mode". My rudder doesn't move at all.
Worth a watch for 3d printing
That locking linkage is so satisfying.
That was a very nice entry into your sponsor segment.
I was just asking about rudder gust locks on the FB page! This is great timing. I'm interested in one if you are printing more!
Thank you and thank you for sharing it for free
Look at you "Mike Patey!" Good job keep it up!
You just made me pull the trigger on buying a new 3d printer. Got the Bambu X1 Carbon just to print this! Cheers!
The only issue I have with locking the rudder at the pedals is the cables and linkage in my scenario on a 170….would take a beating. Not sure but thought the kitfox uses tubes. So that’s a great design for the Kitfox for sure. Real sweet design Trent!
Well done grasshopper NOW back to work...........I couldn't resist great idea.
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Very nice design and 3d printing...
Great edit for sure.
I love how you did the 3D print "time lapse edit" Trent. 👍
I did get my engineering degree and I must say, that is an awesome design. Don't sell yourself short.
Genius. Also, 3D printers are so cool!
Thank You Trent
Have you thought about pressing it against the stick? Two birds one-stone.
Great idea but I feel that not many folk will have such a printer. If I wanted to build such a device I would use telescoping square steel tubing as I have the usual workshop tools. Weight? I always reckon that the best way to cut down on a planes AUW is for the Pilot to go on a diet. Regards, Jim the Brit in NI UK
Bright neon green or orange or blue to make it visible as well . Also place a fluorescent sock over your stick control to remind you that your controls are locked.
mm, inch, celcius, fahrenheit and ounces - using all the units I see! I just learnern the other day that Bamboo Labs was founded by the infamous Dr Turbo from DJI.
Hello Trent. Cool video, idea and product! I'm building a Vixen but don't have 3D printing capabilities. I'd be interested in one of these if you were thinking about making them for other builder! Thanks!
I can totally make one for you, shoot me an email through my website and we can get a plan together
Thanks @@TrentonPalmer. I couldn't figure out how to send an email through your website so I messaged you on FB. No rush!
Dude
Brilliant
Well done!
Well done, version 2 breaks the mold:)!
Nice design, now if I only had a plane... lol. Cheers from Texas.
Got it done. Turned out great. I now need to afford a Kitfox!!!!!!
Love the speed holes!
Thinking a caulking gun mechanism would work for a length adjustment! I have used them for both extension and retraction devices. Cheers and G'day from Tasmania!
Awesome design! You don’t seem too rusty too me. Maybe one day I’ll print one on my printer if I get a Kitfox 🤣.