Familiar Faces: Ghostbusters- Destructor Forms 4 Dummies

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  • @dorko4u
    @dorko4u 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "This cartoon from my childhood ruined my childhood!" ahaha. Good line.

  • @strandedgeek
    @strandedgeek 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Sadly they never did explain why Stay Puff was a good guy, I think it was because the cartoons made the mistake of thinking he was separate being that maybe Gozar possessed. And there 2 fan theories, one is Stay Puff being so popular that a different ghost wanted to be him and probably learned how by mimicking Gozar to an extent. The other one (and the one I liked) is that all that ecto-marshmellow Gozar left behind was gathered up into the new containment unit, and was positively charged like the mood slime to make a new Stay Puff who would be their friend. "But hey that's just a theory."

  • @retrogamelover2012
    @retrogamelover2012 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Basically, Ivo Shandor's motives were: After getting fed up of mankind's follies, when the hardships of WW1 made him a broken man, he attempted to wipe the slate clean and start over, by raining the apocalypse down on the world.

    • @michaeliv284
      @michaeliv284 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Better than Rowan

    • @pokemaster123ism
      @pokemaster123ism 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He just stole the idea from Elijah, from New Vegas

  • @EatitHarvey
    @EatitHarvey 8 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    This remake made the same mistake bad remakes have done: They made the original, but a diet version. They copied the characters, they copied the story, and they copied the ghosts, but not the soul. People can say all the bullshit on how girls can dress up as Ghostbusters now, even though nothing stopped them in the first place, not to mention nobody even saw the film (rumor has it, there were empty theaters on opening day) and the sad part is, the real misogynists in the film industry will look at this and say the film tanked because of women (looking at you, Ike Perlmutter)

    • @TindraSan
      @TindraSan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah like you can see something original in there that is trying so hard to come out but they are too afraid to let it (because fans already throwing a tantrum over the simple change of gender) and thus we get some in-between thing where nobody is really satisfied
      I personally really liked the movie, but I think it's because I'm very easily impressed and good at picking myself back up after bad scenes and be hyped over all the good things.

    • @GaiashKetoji
      @GaiashKetoji 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually it didn't do that. The characters, story and the majority of the ghosts were all new. There were parallels sure but the overall story and character personalities were completely different. Did you even watch the movie or was your "nobody even saw it" statement including yourself?

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stop trying to shill your shitty $144m gender swap fanfic.
      It's shit, it deservedly bombed, get over it.

    • @amberace
      @amberace 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw the movie and I liked it. Plan to get it on dvd as well.

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Poipoigirl
      "Yeah, the writing was shit and it was completely unfunnny, but it progressive, so it good."

  • @TeryJones
    @TeryJones 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A cartoon from your childhood actually ruined your childhood.....that....that is some serious divide by zero shit right there XD

  • @dragonpjb
    @dragonpjb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's important to remember that the movie and cartoon had separate continuitys.

  • @battybuddy
    @battybuddy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Personally, I'm alright with the cartoon, but I never got how Stay Puft got "released" from the containment unit- when they didn't actually CAPTURE him- He ended up BLOWING UP.
    Also, your calling the new movie "Fine" made me think of the comic with the dog in a burning house saying "this is fine"

  • @bdpickett
    @bdpickett 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    0:57 Thank You! I am so glad I'm not the only one who found Chris Hemsworth's character annoying.

    • @magmos6346
      @magmos6346 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Please, Jar-Jar was better. At least he didn't think you cover your eyes to block out loud noises.

    • @yoyoboy87
      @yoyoboy87 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My brother and I are operating under a theory that Hemsworth's character is supposed to be a parody of all the bimbo female characters in movies that were so common around the same time as the original Ghostbusters came out. That they wanted to show how terrible it was to portray anyone in such a manner. But since we are at a point in which a female under this archetype wouldn't be noticed, they used a male character to really show us how insulting a character like that is to a gender.

    • @magmos6346
      @magmos6346 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Samuel Rupe-Smith
      Even if that's the case, why put a character like that in frigging GHOSTBUSTERS of all things!? The closest person who fell into that category in the original movie was that Co-Ed Peter was testing Psychic powers with!
      I mean, if the were remaking a movie that had bimbos, or even just making their own thing and decided to take that shot that would be one thing, but they put him in a remake of a movie that has had no real issues with women!

    • @travistouchdown9895
      @travistouchdown9895 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Samuel Rupe-Smith That's not a theory, that's what Kevin literally is just a Himbo but the sad thing is that retarded journalists think that what GB'16 was original, but while the number isn't big there have been episodes from shitty sitcoms and other media that had Himbos who were just as stupid as Kevin.

    • @suikodudeman
      @suikodudeman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Travis Touchdown That 70s Show comes to mind with the role that made Ashton Kutcher famous: Michael Kelso!

  • @sewingsavage
    @sewingsavage 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    even for how lame the villian was, I really appreciate the little 2d animation of the logo they did before he transformed into the big bad.

    • @crimsondynamo615
      @crimsondynamo615 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It certainly looked better than his true destructor form. Actually was kind of unique looking in the animation form.

  • @thesubscriber8680
    @thesubscriber8680 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's actually a comic where the ghostbusters don't cross the streams to defeat gozer it's very good.

  • @megadrivesonic
    @megadrivesonic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm so glad you made this video. I agree the villains ability to do the form bit and his weak motivation was one of the worst part's of the movie. I tried making a video to try to come up with a better one but I doubt it could have saved the remake.

  • @WeirdWonderful
    @WeirdWonderful 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Habbuwah ? More new Familiar Faces ? Have I accidentally taken all the drugs again ?
    (No, seriously, I love your show man, and have missed you putting out new stuff)

  • @Rocketboy1313
    @Rocketboy1313 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sometimes bad guys have stupid plans that should never work, but they pull it off.
    I'm okay with that.
    Besides, starting with a human bad guy means that when Zuul, Gozer, Nyarlathotep, and the Boogeyman show up it will feel like an escalation of the threat. Vigo felt like a step down.

  • @SilverZeo88
    @SilverZeo88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think they just had a "What If" comic where the GBs did NOT do the thing they're were not suppose to do... and it had it where Gozer traveled in time to get a new form (something similar to Spongebob) only to rage quit and leave, too upset to destroy a world.

  • @razmere924
    @razmere924 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I actually liked the movie. It's not classic original but it was decent. I think there was this strange demand that it must be a flawless masterpiece otherwise everyone must hate it. And instead we just got something that was OKAY.

    • @suikodudeman
      @suikodudeman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thing is, OKAY can be worse than bad. Nostalgia Critic said roughly the same thing about Water World: it has some good moments and it has some bad moments, but nothing to make you really remember it. Plan 9 From Outerspace and The Room are bad movies, but they are so bad they became unintentional comedy gold! Sadly, GB is middling for a movie, and like Water World is a costly venture in mediocrity.

    • @Yobachi2007
      @Yobachi2007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Okay, sucks. The fact that you and so many like you think that okay is acceptable is the very reason why we get just okay movies instead of good movies.
      Some of us require a certain level of quality for our time and money. I'm not giving movie studios my money for half-hearted okay.

  • @RaccoonRevolution
    @RaccoonRevolution 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    inB4 someone accuses Chad of being misogynist / claims he's championing the plight of "oppressed men"
    But in all seriousness, this was a really nice analysis through a lens that a lot of people overlooked. Good stuff, dude! :)

  • @StubzTurner
    @StubzTurner 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I guess you forgot about the episode they brought out Stay Puff for a commercial so they could raise money for a sick kids hospital.

    • @avremirine8986
      @avremirine8986 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the episode where he gets brought out for a convention for ghosts!

  • @seannotshawn3521
    @seannotshawn3521 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Actually the Stay Puft episode from the animated series did show one thing that the movies lacked. They aren't just zapping and imprisoning the ghosts and hoping it fades away, they are actually rehabilitating these wayward souls to be released later to either cross over or just be a supernatural part of society.

    • @michaeliv284
      @michaeliv284 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wasn't it Gozer, or was that situation like a lobotomy?

  • @Dimensioneer88
    @Dimensioneer88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really hope the Ghostbusters Ecto Force cartoon does really well.

  • @cerberus144
    @cerberus144 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who read the comic, yes, that is the Ghost of Jake Blues from Blues Brothers. It doesn't say it out right in the comic, he just refers to himself as a "Spirit Guide" but it's intentionally obvious.

    • @superby1
      @superby1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOVE the comic! And I love little nods like that, Eugene Levi as Louis' cousin from a deleted scene of Ghostbusters 2 and John Candy as a neighbor in Dana's building. It's nice little touches that make the book great.

    • @crimsondynamo615
      @crimsondynamo615 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      IDW Ghostbusters is such a treat for the real die hard fans, with all the little references sprinkled around like the toppings on a delicious cupcake.

  • @GundamWarrior1
    @GundamWarrior1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    After being called a sexist, racist, bigot, and an an asshole for mere saying "This movie looks like crap"......this remake will never receive my money or time. Much like Robocop, Poltergeist, The Omen, Total Recall, Ben-Hur and the countless other remakes that have wasted our time, this garbage will forgotten in comparison to it's predecessors. I encourage all GB fans just to go buy anything else related to the original cast of characters like the The Video Game, The Real Ghostbusters, Extreme Ghostbusters, the Ghostbusters LEGO sets or anything else to influence the brand.

    • @gamewarrior2216
      @gamewarrior2216 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think you kind of proved his point.

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe Ghostbusters fans with severe brain damage liked it.

    • @GundamWarrior1
      @GundamWarrior1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Mathew Gibbons (Gaiash) You have proven my point. With the movie taking over a 70 million dollar loss, it looks like many fans agreed with my point of view. You like the movie great, the fact of the matter is many people didn't nor were begging for it.
      If you want to use "insert political correctness" card here to defend a film, then you are no worse then the folk saying "You raped my childhood".

    • @GaiashKetoji
      @GaiashKetoji 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      aneurysms3535 I wasn't attacking him for his opinion. I was criticizing his statement that "all GB fans" should try and shift focus away from the new characters even though there are fans who actually want more content focused on those characters.

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mathew Gibbons
      And there are fans that want the original Teen Titans cartoon to come back. Tough shit.

  • @tehn00bdude
    @tehn00bdude 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your stuff man, especially your ghostbuster vids

  • @offthepoint2208
    @offthepoint2208 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This cartoon from my childhood just ruined my childhood!!

  • @shoresean1237
    @shoresean1237 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the TRG cartoon, they knew they were taking a chance - Stay-Puft became a powerful vessel but absent Gozer's presence. Lumbering and dangerous for how big he was, but no longer the Destructor.

  • @TheZipperDragon
    @TheZipperDragon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Was that one of the blues brothers in that comic? It would be kinda clever, since Dan Aykroyd was in Blues brothers, & he was also in ghostbusters.

    • @FamiliarFacesChannel
      @FamiliarFacesChannel  8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yep. He's Ray's...spirit animal...in any case a loving tribute.

    • @TheZipperDragon
      @TheZipperDragon 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      FamiliarFacesChannel Pretty awesome. I always love fan porn like that.
      (P.S. I'm coining that term if its not already coined, as a piece of media that sprinkles little tidbits throughout that reward fans, & those who pay attention. Like Overwatch,) By the way, are you the real C.R.? I only ask because UWW channel is run by a fan. In either case, I'm a huge Familiar Faces fan.

    • @xgray2012
      @xgray2012 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @10:59-end.
      I know how you feel, man. I know what it's like to find out that not everything that you loved from your childhood was all that great and that it would sucked from the beginning, because you didn't noticed it, until now. It happened to me, when I started to re-watch all three seasons of Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers on netflix, last year. And I just came to the sudden conclusion that I just cannot stand the first season of MMPR, any more because of the fact that it doesn't really have much of a story, except for the "Green with Evil" mini-series. Then there was TMNT II: Secret of the Ooze and that was just really disappointing to me. Maybe we were too blinded by nostalgia after all. Oh well. Still, I'm actually glad that I chose not to watch the 2016 "remake" of Ghostbusters because I actually heard that it was just a diet version of the original. Where they tried not to piss off fans of the original, but failed to actually make the movie its own thing for the sake of "nostalgia". Some times I hate it when Hollywood tries to make a different incarnation to a newer audience by "recapturing nostalgia from the original" aka "shamelessly retreading and rehashing elements from the original material" just to appeal to a new demographic that isn't familiar with the existing property.

    • @pokemaster123ism
      @pokemaster123ism 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. The Ghost of Jake Blues/John Belushi is Ray's guardian angel

    • @Masonicon
      @Masonicon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Neo-Xgray87 same reason I can't stand watching 1st season of Pokemon Anime not only because of it's stale formula(down to Ash Ketchum losing Pokemon Championship thing) so that's why 2nd season of Pokemon anime are my personal favorite Pokemon season due to it's formula unlike any other seasons of Pokemon anime and when Pokemon anime keep goes on as season 1 with new Pokemon, Ash got flanderized by having his loser part of his character taken too far(at expense of his positive traits including even the fact he's Human being wih aura superpowers are deliberately never brought up)

  • @masteroflag
    @masteroflag 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought you said the cartoon had the continuity that the movie was based on their adventures. Thus Stay Puff could have just been an Gary ghost they could befriend and not Gozer.

  • @downhomesunset
    @downhomesunset 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved the cartoons!

  • @jacobg6628
    @jacobg6628 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:42 I need this on standby.
    Also, thank you for Destructor 101 CR... you giant nerd you.

  • @brittanyyates5916
    @brittanyyates5916 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome job

  • @crazyinsane500
    @crazyinsane500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eh, if anyone cared about the lore they wouldn't have the ending be the girls fighting Scooby Doo leftover effects (and not capturing them)
    In the IDW comics, when a rival team of evil, incompetent Ghostbusters started "killing" ghosts, it turns out they just get stronger and merge into a superghost. Something tells me if Sony's gonna make a sequel, they won't address this.

  • @jamesbevan9939
    @jamesbevan9939 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It always did baffle me how in the animated series Stay Puft was somehow "reformed". Was it separated from Gozer when it got put in the contaimnent unit? How does that even work?

    • @michaeliv284
      @michaeliv284 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can explain, but I need a twinkie

  • @spdrwrtr
    @spdrwrtr 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    more videos about Ghostbusters! can you do some about the cartoon, particularly the slimer spin-off?

  • @andrewkful
    @andrewkful 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the footage of the villain's actor from? You show clips of that show in various places.

    • @masteroflag
      @masteroflag 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He saids after the credits

  • @Werewolf_Korra
    @Werewolf_Korra 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Things are bad, and I'm gonna make them worse because I don't like the way things are going."
    MAGA in a nutshell.

  • @RossOriginals
    @RossOriginals 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are... are those clips from the movie you're showing with the beardy guy and his lab assistants? It looks like you just threw together some amateur footage like NC does for his no-clip reviews.

  • @LevelUpLeo
    @LevelUpLeo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly feel that, like a lot of people, you were looking for something to hate and hold onto so you that you wouldn't like this movie. Seriously, I saw someone complaining about the AGE of the actresses, being an average of 5 years older than the original. To be fair, I fully agree with every other criticism you had at the start of the video, but the bulk of this video, I just don't agree with.
    Yeah, Rowan chooses his destructor form just because and it's played lightly, but that's just the point. Unlike Gozer, he wasn't some all powerful entity trying to instill fear into everyone or govern by inter dimensional rules. He was screwing with the Ghostbusters mentally. He was a cocky punk and COULD have stayed in Kevin's body the whole time from what I gathered. The way he answers the call of "show yourself" with "Ok, what should I be?" didn't sound to me like they had to choose his form. That's him fucking with them and being a bully, like someone saying "give me back my backpack" and they throw it in a three. I'm pretty sure Rowan had full choice of his form, especially since the first thing that was yelled out "a target".

  • @falkuistion
    @falkuistion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the song that plays during the explanation of Ivo Shandor's plan in the Ghostbusters Video Game? It's drivng me nuts.

    • @FamiliarFacesChannel
      @FamiliarFacesChannel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      th-cam.com/video/zBKc8O3rt38/w-d-xo.html here you .

    • @falkuistion
      @falkuistion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FamiliarFacesChannel Thank you!

  • @aceotaku
    @aceotaku 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    you know what wouldve made a better movie villain? Samhain! Ancienct spirit that inspired the holiday of Halloween and is possibly the king of the undead, hence explaining why the ghosts listen to him (maybe add in the caveat he has the power to conttrol ghosts)

  • @MCBigman
    @MCBigman 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is total fan theory here but a fairly well known explanation for Reformed Stay Puft is that he's a separate ghost that took on the Gozer form. Wouldn't explain how he can take on Murray The Mantis who is quoted in said episode as having PKE levels rivaling Gozers but hey, if DBZ Abridged taught us anything. it's that power levels are bullshit.

  • @Nytemare2all
    @Nytemare2all 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid! Nothing to say about the new movie. I did find it odd in the cartoon when they used Stay Puft, but I figured Gozer was separated from it but then it exploded in the movie so.... *shrug*

  • @apex2000
    @apex2000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ivo shandor. crazy not stupid, heck he did what set out to do for most part, not to bad for guy who predates nuclear weapons

  • @Actionfan19
    @Actionfan19 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CR you just made me realize something, Rowan is almost exactly like Ivo. Think about it they're both geniuses and insane, they both hate the current state of the world within their respective timelines and they both figured out a way to breach the spirit world and cause a haunted Armageddon. Of course I'm most likely giving to much thought into this but hey that's just something I do sometimes.

    • @michaeliv284
      @michaeliv284 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The difference is Ivo had time, resources, followers and a reasonable amount of each. Rowan is a walking deus ex machina!

    • @crimsondynamo615
      @crimsondynamo615 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michael Iv and Shandor was actually interesting, especially in the game when he became disillusioned by the god he spent his life time worshiping failing twice to destroy the world.

  • @RiderKick_93
    @RiderKick_93 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice a new CR video

  • @FlashTimberwolf
    @FlashTimberwolf 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:40 - 1:00 You perfectly described the problems I have with modern comedies these days.

  • @themangoman9315
    @themangoman9315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Glad that ghostbusters afterlife was way better than the 2016 film

  • @seanpatrickcain2
    @seanpatrickcain2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:15 Spike: Whoa! Dude that's creepy!

  • @Igarappappa
    @Igarappappa 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet!

  • @seanpatrickcain2
    @seanpatrickcain2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:27 I love that

  • @BBBHuey
    @BBBHuey 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, if Rowan got defeated, how are the Ghostbusters still in business after saving the world? Wasn't he the one who made it possible for ghosts to appear in the first place?

  • @ThatOneRelatableGuy24
    @ThatOneRelatableGuy24 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool dude

  • @seanpatrickcain2
    @seanpatrickcain2 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:02 Dr. Everett V. Scott: But he must have been DRAWN into something…

  • @CartoonTriper
    @CartoonTriper 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    watched this video again for the Mr. Pinklet Review

  • @andrewkful
    @andrewkful 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh it's a show called Limbos.

  • @erinoliva343
    @erinoliva343 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever heard of the video game DragonQuest8: Journey of the Cursed King ??? Kinda sounds like the plot of that game; where you fight a demonic god who possesses a bunch of different people and you have to fight each of them off... then you eventually meet the "Real Villain" and he's a gigantic floating purple fat guy with tentacles and horns... I kid you not... (BTW that game is really fun).

  • @sasamichan
    @sasamichan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    where can I find that comic though?

  • @Mrbandit81
    @Mrbandit81 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    A crazy theory on my part an not sure if anyone else might of come up with the same or close to it idea or not.
    Wild guess if Rowan might of had another place holding the books an notes he got hold of say from Ivo Shandor an others might of been in another place, someplace might of been besides the basement of the hotel. 2 questions that I'm sure one or more others might of asked. With all the tech Rowan had down there, how did he get it past all the people working there and get it set up? Are there others that would be down there working as well in that part of the building or was that part of the he found by him an forgotten about by the others?
    Besides what you brought up on the movie an what I mentioned, something out of the ordinary an adds to the Ghostbusters multiverse.

  • @mombijombo
    @mombijombo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    maybe it is a Destructor form thing in the reboot is a metaphor like if supposed to be feared of their fame or something like that.

    • @michaeliv284
      @michaeliv284 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or they just didn't get it was a term meaning "add insult to injury"

  • @EP1C_GHOSTMSMYT
    @EP1C_GHOSTMSMYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Shandor and his followers where basically pre Internet Twitterites.

  • @AngelJD
    @AngelJD 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Part 2
    This next part came from a past commenter found on this video's comments area: channelawesome.com/ghostbusters-kevin-the-dunning-kruger-effect-stuff-you-like/
    VincentMagius: "Kevin also being a foil to Rowan. They were opposites in many factors. Rowan is short and out of shape. Kevin is, well, a Norse god. Rowan is smart, socially awkward, unpleasant and disliked. Kevin is dumb as a rock, very social, pleasant and well liked."
    Now for him and the power of choice he gave the Ghostbusters. He really didn't.
    Having now great power he became the bully and wanted to further mock and kill the Ghostbusters who was the only ones who could even have a small chance of threatening him and tried to stop his master plan from happening. However he was cocky and instead of taking control or just killing them he toyed and trolled them. Taking over one of them, having his ghost army to attack them, then getting in on the action but first further trolling the Ghostbusters before he went for his kill. He was messing with them when he asked "What form would you like me to take?" Now in reality he already had a idea of what his form would be against them (he drew it before in a cafe). He wanted to take something of theirs to further mock them as the form that he would kill them with and then proceed to destroy all of Humanity. When Patty said "something small and cute" he had his opening. "Something like this?" Patty: Yes. Rowan "well... if that's what you want..." Now he didn't stay small or cute like Patty wanted so he was always in control of what corporeal form he had.
    He never gave them control. He was giving one final trolling moment in his cockiness before he would kill them.
    They however escaped his sight before he could crush them and he moved on to begin his NYC assault.
    Gozer gave control as part of how that god operated and was stuck with whatever form that came about but Rowan deliberately choose for himself while giving an illusion of control.
    Thinking over and discovering things about this movie relieved to me the potential but failed execution on many aspects of this film. I feel that most likely they had 3 hours of film but Sony wanted it down to 2 (allowing more movie showtimes in the theaters) thus editing had it cut down to be 2 hours but what I discovered or clued to be cut I felt served the plot and characterization of the Ghostbusters ladies and their villain.
    I feel with test audiences they could of discovered what jokes worked and what fell flat (even the cameo parts if it didn't contribute anything overall) and edit those parts down but keep critical story and character elements in making less of a "comedy" and more of a rounded: horror, comedy, drama, character study but most of all a solid movie.
    The ghostbusters (Erin, Abby, Patty, and the one who seems to be the fan favorite for many Jillian) themselves I found them interesting and I liked them alot so I wouldn't mind seeing them again but with a different marketing team, editing team, director (Ivan Reitman would be the best 'olive branch' director to have psychological) and maybe have one more writer to simply look over the script and give some insight and ideas that don't have to be followed but could still prove helpful if presented well.

  • @gabrielramirez7557
    @gabrielramirez7557 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:30 Come on, CR you know Kevin is the key to all this, and he's a funnier character than we've ever had!

  • @ST-gv2hw
    @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At least it's not getting a sequel.
    I wonder how many Razzies it's going to get next year.

    • @GaiashKetoji
      @GaiashKetoji 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      At no point have Sony said they aren't making a sequel.

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mathew Gibbons
      It won't make enough money to warrant a sequel.

    • @GaiashKetoji
      @GaiashKetoji 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ST Until Sony actually says they're not making a sequel you shouldn't say with certainty there won't be one. Likewise I can't say with certainty there will be one, only that I hope there will be.

    • @pokemaster123ism
      @pokemaster123ism 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Mathew Gibbons (Gaiash) it's Schrodingers Sequel. We don't know if it is or isn't coming until we're told

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mathew Gibbons
      Why do you want a shit movie to get a sequel?

  • @maskedrabbitproductions4707
    @maskedrabbitproductions4707 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like if I say "I like this movie,even though I have never really watched on of the original movies but have enough information to know about the franchise's signature traits and stories",I'll get mugged by die-hards or if I do watch the original it'll ruin how I see this one

    • @suikodudeman
      @suikodudeman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well go watch the original movie. If we "die hards" won't have our childhoods or anything ruined by seeing this new movie (a common gripe I hear from those who enjoy the new one), then you seeing the old after the new won't be ruined either. If the real reason you are afraid to see he original is because you think you might enjoy it more than the new one... well, that is a possibility, yeah.

  • @kyletowers9662
    @kyletowers9662 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    why does the description say "an in-depth look at the new Pokemon Go"

    • @Dimensioneer88
      @Dimensioneer88 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did do a separate Pokémon Go video. Maybe he just put in the description by mistake.

  • @Imperial_Blaze
    @Imperial_Blaze 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They have a new ghostbusters game ....???

  • @Werewolf_Korra
    @Werewolf_Korra 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm willing to give this film a pass, if it will do me a solid next to them and have the snobby Dean turn out to be Vigo... Maybe throw in some cameos from the Animated Series, like Vigo gets Samhain, the Grundle, or the Boogie Man to help him

    • @Werewolf_Korra
      @Werewolf_Korra 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *Samhain

    • @azazeltheundyingdamienkali5700
      @azazeltheundyingdamienkali5700 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Grundle"? Did you mean to say "Grendel"?

    • @shaneattwell2222
      @shaneattwell2222 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, there really was a ghost by the name of "Grundle" in the animated series. It was a different time.

    • @jamesbevan9939
      @jamesbevan9939 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Grundle was one of the creepiest monsters in the series

    • @Werewolf_Korra
      @Werewolf_Korra 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      James Bevan although, for a movie adaptation, if he were just a side villain, maybe just have him be a possessed kid or something, like his shadow is the grundles outline and he walks like the Exorcist and pukes and stuff, but it's just a normal kid otherwise. That's just how I think it would fold into that Universe anyway... Since there seems to be some dissonance between the two realities.

  • @justinhand8784
    @justinhand8784 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stay puft man and gozer were two different characters in the RGB Universe. they distroyed gozer and trapped stay puft. they arent real specific, nut never call one by tje other name

  • @goseivalaskez769
    @goseivalaskez769 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m from the future....2016 is no longer canon
    Good, it was in an alternate universe.

  • @MegaDeathRay10
    @MegaDeathRay10 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh but was there a Pokemon go review?

  • @PK-MegaLolCaT
    @PK-MegaLolCaT 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think people have more a problem with sony than the film

  • @JoLiKMC
    @JoLiKMC 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh. Janine looks pretty cute in _"Slimer!"_ style. Who knew?
    In any case, I enjoyed this video and agree with what was said. Particularly the part about this movie *not* being the worst thing to come out of the franchise. It's a harmless Hollywood movie banking on a brand. But I liked it, so what do I know?
    Still would not watch the new _RoboCop_ unless you paid me, though. ;P

  • @siruslymarauding5514
    @siruslymarauding5514 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually enjoyed this movie but as you pointed out, it is very flawed. I hope if they do a sequel they are able to make a better villain to fight the main cast.

  • @UltimateThanos
    @UltimateThanos 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I meant to post this comment when the video was brand new, but I lacked the brain power and time to properly articulate my thoughts. That being said, I hope you'll all excuse my bad timing.
    "It ruined my childhood" is a hyperbolic, wholly inaccurate translation of the opinion that a beloved intellectual property one holds dear to one's heart has been grievously misrepresented to a new generation whom one hopes will carry said property into the future. In this case, by covetous, black hearted media moguls who, if you look at all the empirical evidence around us, were very much complicit in, if not responsible for, Michael Jackson's death. Feminism only became attached to it when certain borderline personalities took a certain TH-cam video out of context to garner attention.

  • @robostanley6199
    @robostanley6199 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    ey boss!

  • @CamsEyeView
    @CamsEyeView 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's a shame that a few of the ideas the film had were actually kind of cool. the varied designs of the ghost and the multiple weapons were awesome.
    It just needed to do its own thing and NOT keep hold of the first film with cameos from the original actors, and so on.
    I feel like Sony had a bunch of hands in the punch bowl and probably why the film from a talented group of individuals and a director who has made good films, was such a mess. It's not bad, and I think its hilarious that after a year of people crying fowl and complaining about the movie, the overall movie was just "okay"
    Like really? you could have been making a bigger deal about something important, but nope! gotta complain about Ghostbusters 2016 movie!

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sony had to threaten to sue the original actors to force them into taking part.

    • @gipsyg27
      @gipsyg27 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ST ok I didn't like the movie but that's bullshit

    • @gabrielramirez7557
      @gabrielramirez7557 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's what's been happening to all the Sony stuff recently. Big Neck Spiderman 2, The last Bond film.
      They want to squeeze so much out of the one thing it ends up watered down or bloated. So like with Ghostbusters, they end up, as we say here, with neither the goat nor the rope.

  • @TindraSan
    @TindraSan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked the movie but I must say that the villain really was the absolute worst part about it. I mean, lack of depth only works with big villains so it can imply that there is depth that you are just not worthy of seeing, but this guy was so small he just felt flat and evens smaller without the depth :(

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      He really wasn't. If anything, the absolute worst part was Kevin, and this is coming from someone that actually enjoyed him. The villain was actually a good villain considering how carefully planned out his scheme was. Compare that to say, Hans of Frozen, whose plan lacks foresight and has a major flaw: he could never ascend the throne; he would always be a prince. Plus, the villain's a shadow archetype to Erin Gilbert.

    • @TindraSan
      @TindraSan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      jacoblgames Kevin was indeed a hit or miss, but I disagree on the villain thing. I also don't think it's a strong argument comparing this villain to the villain in Frozen.
      I honestly don't care how well thought out the plan was, I don't care about this guy! I had the same problem with Hans in Frozen. "who the fuck is this guy?" I asked both times, I never got a proper answer
      it doesn't matter how well put together the evil plan is if I don't find the guy making the plan interesting or compelling.

  • @LORDSofCHAOS333
    @LORDSofCHAOS333 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:12 aww comon man
    realy so nerds can invate atomic lesers to catch ghouat
    but creting a portal sounds stupite what
    did you forgat the in animetet series they did haw an conterner end traps
    so why not do a revurse what cainda scince is it if you cant revusre it

  • @MichaelAarons1701
    @MichaelAarons1701 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    They weren't bombs. They were charging the ley lines and amplifying paranormal energy. Basically, Rowan was a ripoff of the game even down to possessing an ally and floating around in their body. Feig and Dippold plagiarized the game whether they knew it or not.
    They also brought back the Marshmallow Man more than once and it was generally considered that, for the show, he and Gozer were two separate characters.

    • @kevindavis296
      @kevindavis296 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Stay puft is gozer.

    • @MichaelAarons1701
      @MichaelAarons1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevindavis296 You totally missed what I even said. The show treated Stay Puft as separate from Gozer. He’s held in the containment unit yet they’ll mention Gozer like it’s a dealt with issue that could come back like a big deal despite letting Stay Puft out here and there or Sray Puft and Slimer chatting like old friends.

    • @kevindavis296
      @kevindavis296 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichaelAarons1701IM NOT MISSING A POINT!!!
      Stay Puft is gozer's destructor disguise form!!!

    • @MichaelAarons1701
      @MichaelAarons1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!
      My point this whole time is that _The Real Ghostbusters_ used different rules on the two characters. No one has said they weren’t the same only that the show did for that continuity.

    • @kevindavis296
      @kevindavis296 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichaelAarons1701 ITS A DIFFERENT GHOSTBUSTERS UNIVERSE!!!! YOU MEAN GREEN MOTHER!!!!

  • @LORDSofCHAOS333
    @LORDSofCHAOS333 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:05 but i do agree on the shendow this yes ma by it work batter
    crap it will explane way the villan in 2016 was actic like he wass possest

  • @Drixenol86
    @Drixenol86 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holtzman was the only good thing about the movie. Everything else is dumb. It baffles me that there are some people like this film.

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not true. The 3D was good. Because of the 3D, you could see just how damn big that one machine Holtzmann made was. Besides adding depth it also caused the sparks from the electric ghost to come out of the screen. Patty is actually the character that Winston was supposed to be. She was established early on and her expertise in the city's paranormal history was useful to the team, though Winston would have been the most technically capable member of the Ghostbusters. The visual effects were actually awesome. It's genuinely funny throughout the movie. If that's not enough then read some positive reviews. Do some research too.

    • @Drixenol86
      @Drixenol86 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +jacoblgames I have. And it doesn't change my opinion.

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drixenol86 Then change it since you find it so baffling. You have any idea the kind of contempt that shows?

    • @Drixenol86
      @Drixenol86 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +jacoblgames Why do you want me to change it so badly? So you can feel better about yourself?

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drixenol86 "It baffles me that there are some people like this film." Your choice of words there says otherwise due to the amount of contempt it shows.

  • @Omeganed0
    @Omeganed0 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing is, I never thought of Rowan as taking a Destructor form. He was overflowing with ghost power and decided to take a larger form.
    My real problem was that...it was the logo. Now, I actually liked the movie just fine, but that was just lazy. And lazy in a way that they probably thought they were being really clever. Kinda reminds me of that Transformers game where they just used the Decepticon logo as one of the bosses or whatever.
    ...though I actually thought Kevin was hilarious...

  • @LORDSofCHAOS333
    @LORDSofCHAOS333 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:09 sorry thet i am nittpice but way not he open the portal betvine the dead end living this is quite immprecive
    didnt the animetet series haw same episode of one time
    + just like you sad ghoust enargy from the portal
    why not he is enargy effter all
    video game some guy becomes gozar
    but re-mack how did know it will work ....

  • @coolclaytony
    @coolclaytony 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well when you put it that way, Rowan is kind of a weak antagonist. Still hopeful for the sequel though.

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      A sequel is never coming.
      Sony lost a lot of money and they're desperately trying make back the money by increasing the price of PlayStation Plus.

    • @coolclaytony
      @coolclaytony 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ST They made back they're budget and this film is already gaining a massive following regardless of some peoples belly-aching, a sequel is likely.

    • @ST-gv2hw
      @ST-gv2hw 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      coolclaytony
      They only made back the movie's budget. That doesn't include the costs of marketing and stuff.

  • @vgtrp
    @vgtrp 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    While I did like the film, I will admit that the villain and the choose the form thing was weak.

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. The villain was a shadow archetype to Erin and he was using their logo against them. That's good writing.

    • @SirBlackReeds
      @SirBlackReeds 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. The villain was a shadow archetype to Erin and he was using their logo against them. That's good writing.

    • @michaeliv284
      @michaeliv284 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, Rowan had weak motivation, a weak explanation on how he can do all this and deus ex machina'd his way to the end credits

  • @dreadedpixel9022
    @dreadedpixel9022 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    420 likes

  • @LORDSofCHAOS333
    @LORDSofCHAOS333 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    x $ uggg gozor was a background villan end weary under develep crap we olhy see it in end of the movie
    the ather movie well i hate to say this but atliss hi got some level of develpmant like well spoiler he was a regectite scintis becouse he belivde in ghoust - but no seriesly
    end i hate to say this agein but atliss the re-mack did youse the ghoust
    you know you die end if haw un-finish bussnes you come back
    end ghoustbusters 2016 did acouly hound down a ghoust a scintce ghoust not a damy god of doom who olhy shows up for 5min end comes back as marketic mass scot from the 80s
    how is this villan develepmant

  • @TheSkullKlownTSK
    @TheSkullKlownTSK 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. The movie is bad but its not god awful. A c- movie could be better but its not. Sony is just an ass hole. At the endof the day. They made this movie shit.

    • @magmos6346
      @magmos6346 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well not just Sony. Paul Feig and Melissa McCarthy certainly didn't help matters.
      Honestly, when Michael, tits and explosions, Bay handles criticism better than you, it's time to rethink a fair amount of your life.

  • @LORDSofCHAOS333
    @LORDSofCHAOS333 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    but in end you an open mind it pursan end well i am just polsting my opions on net
    belive i haw seen worst ghoustbuster movie the re-mack is far far from the shit i haw to watch this summer

  • @mogensschmidt2019
    @mogensschmidt2019 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    in spirit of harold ramis they should not do The reboot