LOST IN BRAZILIAN Ford CORCEL
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Que legal! Um Canal de fora do Brasil contando a história do nosso querido Ford Corcel. Um Clássico brasileiro feito de um projeto envolvendo 3 fabricantes: Renault, Willys e Ford. Parabéns pelo trabalho
É brasileiro. Ele fala várias vezes "here, in Brazil."
Muito obrigado, estou tentando prestar homenagem ao maravilhoso país do Brasil. Volte sempre nos visitar.
Fantástico!! Tenho um Corcel II 1981, movido a álcool!! Excelente automóvel!! Adorei o canal!!! Ja estou inscrito!! Obrigado!!
Esse é um veículo excelente, obrigado pelo seu comentário e obrigado ainda mais por se inscrever no canal. Eu vi um Corcel 2 ontem, sempre me faz sorrir.
Hey, thanks for sharing your impressions about Ford Corcel. I was still a kid when my father bought a Ford Belina (which was a Corcel "station wagon" version). It was a green 72 standard model. When he bought a 76 in good shape years later, I already had my licence and I use to drive it a lot!
The greatest advantadge of Ford Corcel was the confort, as the VW models didn't have front McPherson suspension like it. Also, they were economic and reliable.
When I got married in 89, we traveled 700km in a white Corcel II 78 to our honeymoon on the beach. Even with a limited powered engine, it was a nice car to travel.
His engine was continuously improved and later renamed as Ford CHT (1.6 liter), becoming standard for the last Corcel II and his successor, the Ford Escort made in Brazil. Ford CHT engines are still praised nowadays as extremelly reliable and economic.
@@martins767 WOW ! That’s straight up quality memories. Gosh, how cool would it have been to be traveling those early Brazilian roads in a Corcel Station Wagon, very cool. As a kid, we had a 1986 Subaru GL that we did road trips all over south United States in. It was mostly desert. We drove through and some high alpine forest. I really thank you for sharing your story with me.
Nice to see the Corcel being shown internationaly. I own the Station Wagon, called Belina, uear 1974. Fun car to drive, slowly, but still fun. 😅
@@ProfessorGalileu Hope I could do justice to the Corcel. Slow is fun.
@LuDamen you forgot to talk about the Belina, the Corcel Station Wagon, so you only did 66,67% justice. You talked about the Corcel 4 Doors and the cupe. 😅🤣
Very good! It's cool to see a perspective from outside Brazil regarding our cars.
Thank you so much. I’m truly smitten by all the awesome Brazilian cars. I feel very lucky to learn about all of this. See you in the next video.
I used to drive a turquoise 71 Corcel. The greatest fun I ever had! I miss that car!
There’s always those cars that we miss so very much. I would’ve loved to seen that turquoise 71.
My grandpa had one of these, Corcel 1972 If not mistaken. After that, he bought the Corcel "2", They were quite good vehicles, and very confortable. Quite nippy also, given it's power. And I love the design of the Corcel 2, and many of us here liked it also, even if you look at it for too long, you can start to see the weirdness of the project. Still, I think the Corcel 2 was the best design Ford had in the 80's. You seem to have forgot about the Corcel 2 GT, with the 1.6L engine. And also the Wagon and Pickup versions, of which the pickup lasted until 1997!!! (with the VW AP Engine)
I wanted this video to be strictly about the Corcel and not her sisters. I beg your pardon for my criticism of this beautiful classic Brazilian car. I really enjoy reading your comments and I look forward to hearing from you on the next videos
@@LuDamen No probem, you just quoted you'r opinion about the car's design, no problem in this, ;-) Than you buddy, Look forward for the next videos!
Aqui em sao paulo tem o maior colecionador de corcel do brasil , sr sergio minervini conhecido por sr dos corceis , vale a pena assistir
Que legal!!! Vou ter que dar uma olhada nisso. Muito obrigado!
Isso ai gostei muito do vídeo eu tenho um corcel 2 L 1981 1.6 álcool
COOL, muito legal mesmo !!!😊 Muito obrigado !!!
@LuDamen de nada Tmj os carros brasileiros são bem legais diferentes do resto do mundo tem um carro que foi fabricado aqui e também nos EUA com o nome Chevrolet Chevette
@LuDamen Tmj tem muito carro brasileiros bons tem um modelo que foi fabricado aqui e nos EUA o nome Chevrolet Chevette
O Chevette foi o meu primeiro video, te convido para assistir aqui no canal. Muito obrigado!
@LuDamen sim vou assistir Tmj eu tenho dois carros o corcel 2 e o Chevette SL 78
They say that Ford's headquarters insisted that the car be called the Ford Pinto (the same as the US model), but "pinto" is the name given to a penis here in Brazil. Brazilians are very jokesters, it would be a tragedy, and the Ford subsidiary had to fight hard to change the name.
That was the great joke in North America. The word is the same in Spanish. Due to the name and the safety hazards of the vehicle it was not a well received car.🤣
@@LuDamen 😆
O Corcel 2 foi muito elogiado pelo design, que se hoje é estranho, na época foi uma quebra de paradigmas. O carro era muito espaçoso e confortável.
Quanto mais eu olho para o carro, mais eu gosto. Se vc pudesse escolher, vc escolheria um Júnior, um voyage ou o Corcel da mesma época?
@LuDamen gosto dos 3, mas penderia ao corcel e Voyage
I'm Brazilian, and the Corcel was actually a very beloved car for Brazilians. And after the oil crisis, its Renault engine was much more economical than the Ford Galaxy and Maverick. Which made it excellent value for money.
The Corcel 2 definitely was an icon of its time. And definitely run similarities to the Ford Mustang 2. I really thank you for your information on the motor and I can’t wait to hear from you in the next video. Hope you have a wonderful day and see you soon.
My dad and mon had a Ford Belina, that was a stationwagon of the corcel. Usually they dropped the rear seats so they made a bed for me and my sister along road trips. It was very nice.
O cara tá contando a história e tá fazendo a maior força pra não rir qdo fala das suas características, a história virou anedota. Kkkkkkkk!
Aprender sobre esses carros brasileiros é muito divertido. Agradeço muito pelo seu comentário e tempo e espero vê-lo por aqui no próximo vídeo.
I had one Corcel GT for 10 years, and I loved it.
But it has to be said OEMs did coupes in Brazil not because they looked “sporty”, but because Brazilians distrusted rear doors at the time. Thus the Opel Reckord 2 doors (known as Opala), the Opel Ascona 2 doors (known as Monza), the Santana 2 doors, the Ford Del Rey 2 doors (derived from the four doors, itself inspired on the Ford Granada).
Ironically, Taxi fleets appreciated the convenience of the 4 doors.
First off congratulations of having a GT. And yeah, that’s really interesting about the Brazilian market and the distrust of four doors. I really thank you for your comment and hope to see you in the next video.
04:40 Aí não, brother! O Corcel II era um belo carro, com linhas modernas, seguindo a tendência dos Ford europeus, como o Granada. A Ford brasileira desenvolveu para o Corcel II uma tecnologia até então inédita no mundo: uma grade dianteira defletora, que controlava a admissão do fluxo de ar, de acordo com a velocidade que o carro trafegava, outro avanço foi a embreagem eletromagnética, que tornava mais eficiente o consumo de combustível
Eu entendo totalmente o que você está dizendo e seus pontos são muito válidos. Tinha uma parte no vídeo, que eu cortei, onde eu o comparei com o Junior, e a razão pelo qual eu achei que não era tão bom aos olhos, no entanto, é um ótimo carro para a sua época. Eu não posso agradecer o suficiente por seus comentários e como me fez dar risada. Espero que você volte nos visitar e tenha um ótimo dia.
E o design do Corcel II tinha inspiração nítida no Mustang plataforma FOX e no Escort europeu de segunda geração.
Yeah, I definitely has the fox body inspiration going on.
Interesting fact: “corcel “ means “mustang” in Portuguese
And knowing is half the battle lol. 😊
Honestly I think the II looks better. It kinda reminds me the fox body (the del Rey would be the notchback?)
You’re right the fox body, and the Corcel 2, do have that Giorgetto Giugiaro look to it. The Corcel 2 was the notchback.
Cool thanks.
Thank you very much!!!
Great video, thanks
Thank you very much!!! Your comment is really appreciated!!! Come back, you are always welcome here.
Tu dirige um corcel no Rio de Janeiro em Driver 2 de PlayStation, mas se percebe que os gringos só pegaram o modelo estético e não procuraram saber como funcionava um de verdade, provavelmente alguem da equipe de desenvolvimento do jogo veio ao Brasil e viu o Corcel e decidiu que esse carro deveria estar no jogo, oque mostra como o carro era sim bonito.
Ele realmente tem uma vibe de muscle car como os carros japoneses da mesma época. Quando você olha para os primeiros Mustang notchback, eles tem quase o mesmo tamanho. Os americanos simplesmente não conseguem deixar de se apaixonar por tal design. Infelizmente, eles não investiram tempo para realmente entender o Corcel.
An interesting point in the history of Corcel is that engineer Luc Henry de Ferran took over the transfer and adaptation process necessary to become a Ford product, but in addition to being a Ford engineer he was the father of Gil de Ferran, a racing driver who was two-time Champ Car Champion (2000/2001) and also won the 2003 Indianapolis 500.
Other Willys products that became Ford products were the Jeep, the Rural (originally the Jeep Willys Station Wagon) and the Jeep Pick-up that would be renamed the Ford F-75.
This is a wealth of information cannot thank you enough. If you check out my Willy’s video, pardon my hillbilly accent it just kind of came out. Hope you enjoy that video as well.
I just watched your video about Rural, this was the car that took me from the maternity ward until I was 12/13 years old. My father had a dark blue and white one that he loved (he even adapted a mechanism to make the glass on the rear passenger window, which slid horizontally, start to move up and down) when it was really rusty he took it to an auto repair shop. for a complete renovation and bought another one at a police auction to be a parts donor. When it was completely disassembled on trestles, without an engine, transmission or wheels, a fire in the nearby bush reached it and was a total loss. The solution was to renovate the one that belonged to the police (as it was all black, I, as a child, called it Pretinha) and it was resurfaced with a green and white paint job and was used for a few more years. Detail, both had a 4-cylinder engine - more economical, better for dual use, work and family transport.
@@lucianoandrade5007 What a great story! Thank you for sharing.
This "french based" (Renault 12) Ford Corcel car, started its production in late 68 and had a station wagon (state, break, anything else...) version called Belina since 69 and a pick up version, called Pampa since 82. This lasts could have a 4x4 version, with the miserable Renault Cleon/Fonte based engine and with (I think a sh it of) gear box WITHOUT a central diff and with different gear ratios on the axles diffs... 🙄
Worked like a crystal. It ONLY could be used to get out of mud... Belina's (and the Del Rey) faded out in early 91 and Pampa was produced til 97. In the middle 80's the Autolatina (Ford and VW) joint venture gave another engine option to Del Rey, Belina and Pampa. The 8V 1.8 L EA-827 (here know by "AP1800") and the VW gearbox. This engine option had never a 4x4 tranny. The only auto trans option was for Del Rey (and Belina) with the miserable Renault based engine (here "stroked" to 1.6 L, another cylinder head and other minor changes and called Ford CHT). This auto trans had only 3 gears and was awful.
This family of Fords had long live. They were not fast or "sporty". But they were very reliable. I have a 81 Corcel 2 LDO (that I installed a MegaSquirt fuel injection on it) and a 89 Belina 1.8 Ghia (fuel injected, turbo'ed and so).
Till the first gen, Ford used the american-like design of it (Reassembling the Maverick/Pinto). Since the second gen, they choose the european-like design, based on Ford Granada... That's the "mess" with it's design of Corcel 2.
O CHT é quase tão valente quanto o AP, porque o odeia tanto? Já levou cana de um CHT? Kkk
Oh wow, what a wealth of information! Thank you!!!
Willys-Overland do Brasil's original plan was to launch the first-generation Renault 12 in Brazil as a replacement for the Renault Dauphine/Gordini that had already been manufactured in the country since 1959, but the acquisition of the automaker by Ford do Brasil in 1967, briefly suspended the M project (jointly developed between Renault and Willys) until Ford redesigned it and gave it a new name. That name: CORCEL!
This information is pure gold thank you! Really hope to see you in the next video.
Brazilian VW in the 70s also adopted same front inline engine and traction.
My favorite example of it other than the Passat is the Saveiro such a cool design
@@LuDamen Ineed. A great car.
A lot of cars in South América have this configuration, Volkswagens, Fords, etc...
That’s super interesting and I’m having a fun time learning about them all. Coming from North America this was a very unique set up.
in brazil VW made the Gol that had the exact same lay out as the alpha, front longitudinal FWD boxer engine, only thing the Gol was air cooled
Never saw that until I moved to Brazil and I found out the Savero has the same layout. Thank you for the information. Truly appreciate it.
@ if you need any thing more about the gol feel free to ask, o own one
Cara... O Corcel II era totalmente diferente do modelo anterior e foi algo proposital. A Ford projetou o carro inteiro para quebrar a aparencia antiga de Renautl/Willys e pegou parte dos elementos de design dos Fords Granada, Cortina e Taunus. Quanto a mecânica, ele poderia ter um motor bem maior (ohc 2.3 do Maverick ou o V6 do Taunus) mas tinhamos restrições de consumo de combustível devido a crise do petróleo da época. Preferiram aumentar um pouco o motor original (de 1.4 para 1.6) e investiram pesado no projeto do motor movido a Álcool (Etanol). Cada pedacinho desse carro foi meticulosamente projetado e é um carro fantástico de guiar. Não é o mais rapido e nem o mais potente, mas é incrívelmente macio e confortável de andar. O Del Rey (eu considero como um Corcel de terno e gravata), Belina (versão Station Wagon) e a Pampa (versão Pick Up) tiveram produção um pouquinho mais longa. Del Rey e Belina encerraram produção em 1991 e a Pampa teve sua produção encerrada em 1997. Estas três versões ainda tiveram a opção de motor Volkswagen 1.8 (AP) que ate lhe renderia mais um video explicando a estranha união da Volkswagen - Ford aqui no Brasil no final dos anos 80 😅😂
Saudações do Brasil!! 🤝🏼🇧🇷
Esta é uma riqueza de informações. Não posso agradecer o suficiente. Parece que correu o mesmo jogo de bola que o Mustang 2 jogou na América do Norte. A Volkswagen do Brasil realmente teve sua mão em todos os potes de biscoitos, da FORD à Chrysler. A Volkswagen do Brasil foi grande papai urso. Este foi um ótimo comentário para ler. Muito obrigado. Realmente mal posso esperar para ouvir seus pensamentos sobre o próximo vídeo.
@@LuDamenExato! A crise do petróleo teve seu auge no Brasil (Sul) no final dos anos 70, diferente do Norte que foi no começo da década. Se não fosse a tal crise, certamente haveria um Mustang II e um Corcel II bem mais fortes nas ruas 🥲. Fico imaginando o universo paralelo desses carros. Os Dodges brasileiros com motores V8 continuariam em produção. O Ford Galaxie Landau poderia ter uma atualização ou até mesmo ser substituído pelo LTD ou Crown Victoria (que no Brasil seria um carro de luxo) e o Chevrolet Opala poderia também ganhar um motor mais forte na versão SS (um V8).
@ Eu quero viver naquele mundo paralelo LOL 😂
Lu,do the VW SANTANA story
Right on, it’s on the list!
Sabe de nada inocente, o Corcel pick up foi fabricado de 82 a 96.
Muito legal, vou ter que falar sobre isso no próximo video.
I must disagree. Corcel 2 was beautiful. And for those who does not know, Corcel means stallion and it's logo was a running horse just like it's stronger American cousin, Mustang.
@@marcelogazzoli4279 I totally respect your point of view, and the more I look at it, the easier it does become on my eyes. And a fun fact, it does follow it’s American cousin, the Mustang, in the fact that the Mustang 2 was not well received by the public due to the radical redesign. Your opinion is very important and I look forward to your comment in the next videos.
Not that unique. As you mentioned, the Alfasud and all it's relatives had that drive train configuration. Also the Ford Taunus 12M and 15M as well as the Saab 96. Both using the same type of V4 engine. The Renault R12 of course and the 15 and 17 coupes. I'm not sure, but I think also the R18 that replaced the R12 was built the same way. The Citroen GS has a drivetrain very similar to the Alfasud, including inboard disc brakes to minimize the unsprung weight.
Given it was a cheap vehicle, I mean, its very unique.
@PuzzleVizion_TV None of the vehicles that I mentioned above were particularly expensive either ☺️
@@drunkonkerosene But compaired to the Brazilian market they could have been, if sold here
Alpha Romeo was rather a rare car in North America and we really did not have any of these other cars there. We did have the Saab but really only the Saab 900 and the 900 turbo. So from my automotive background, this was a unique set up that I had not been so familiar with other than Alfa Romeo GTV. This is really a gold mine of information that I would like to. Thank you for hope you enjoy the upcoming videos and have a pleasant day.
@@LuDamen It's a bit different here in Sweden of course. Alfasud was a magnificent car as long as its bodywork didn't disintegrate due to rust 😥 I had two of them. Saab 96 was of course more common here. It's always differences in which cars that are common in different countries. The reason for the comparably large amount of American cars in Sweden are all the imports by enthusiasts.
VW Passat/Dasher, the furst generations of Audi 80 and Audi 100, VW Quantum/Santana etc. all have that exactly same configuration. It isn't something exotic at all.
I mean, it's somewhat behind the wheels, underneath the vehicle, on the VW. The Corcel clearly shows it's more on the front of the vehicle/ engine bay
You are absolutely right for the Brazilian market, but in North America this is quite a unique set up not very popular with automotive enthusiasts. Thank you for your information on these strange Audis. I’ve never seen them. Hope you have a great day and come back for the next video.
So much nonsense!! In a closed market that only favored factories making carts in Brazil, what did you expect? Talk about the mistakes made by the American Ford when it forced Ford Brazil to choose the "lying ox" Maverick, ignoring the German Taunus of 1971. Or out of pure "greed", making "half-baked" adaptations to the obsolete 6-cylinder Willys engine from the 1930s and using it in the Maverick, making the car a gas guzzler and as slow as a turtle. The "M" project based on the Renault 12 that gave rise to the Corcel was a success among Brazilian consumers who, until then, only had access to the carts from the 1950s that the "smart" foreign factories came to make here. And the restyling only of the body of the Corcel called "2" was due to Ford's greed in not producing the efficient German engines here.
Você tem alguma matéria que possa comprovar que a Ford por pura ganância não trouxe os outros carros para cá?
O preço talvez não compensasse, (e claro, não nego que tenham cancelado a importação e fabricação de outros veículos devido a falta de concorrência) mas não creio que seja por ganância. A Ford sempre perdeu de fazer sucesso aqui no Brasil. E lá fora parece que também está perdendo a fama.
It’s really unfortunate about the Brazilian market. The weather and roads here are so amazing that it’s really a tragedy that the markets were not opened like they were in North America. I would like to thank you for your time and your comment and hope you enjoy the next video.
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