Jaye Davison made Stargate to me. If he had not been in the movie I would never have given it a second look. And don’t get me started on the Crying Game I loved it so much I’m still crying! 😢
Never noticed they retcon'd Ra as a Goa'uld, since the movie showed his true form looked like a "gray"/Asgard cousin(Sekkari?) in energy. It seemed like SG1 hinted that was the reason he was the "Supreme System Lord"...He was something closer to Anubis after his change.
wait, i'm confused because i remember when Ra DIES he's literally an alien Asgard, but in this video it's suggested that he was an Asgard before he took human form? a bit backwards don't you think?
@@jedipadwan20 well to be frank, the movie was created before the tv show and it was a different lore in the tv show than the movie, which means the alien that ra was in the movie was his true form. he wasn't an asgard, but according to the sg1 lore he was because he looked kind of like an asgard with sharp teeth. but in the original movie he also wasn't a goa'uld either, he was only known to be as Ra the sun god and that he was an alien, and when the bomb went off just before he dies he started to resemble a asgard looking creature.
@@5226-p1e or before they recon him to be goa’uld he was a alien but Asgard’s weren’t their name but some other name if the tv show never became reality I’m sure in a sequel we would have found out who he really was
I didn't even read the title of the video before playing this amazing video. All i say was the eyes and knew it was Ra. I love the Start Gate movie, SG1, Atlantis and SGU.
The actor portraying Ra is Jay Davidson, and to this day, I am still mesmerized by the sight of him. His other most famous role was in The Crying Game, another of my favorite films….💜
Thank you for putting all the pieces of Ra's history together. That had to be some real work. I really enjoyed that lore. I love the whole Stargate movie/show concept and storylines. The parasites were bad and the Wraith were MUCH worse but the worst of the Stargate baddies, to me, was the Ori. Absolutely terrifying!
I agree but I have much more dread for the wraiths, the culling and the sound of wraith darts in the sky, absolute nightmare fuel, imagine the life being drained from you, terror, shear terror
she was a little off with the asgard part. i mean if you saw the movie he dies in asgard form when he was supposed to be human. in this video it's suggested that he was an asgard first and then became human which doesn't really explain how when he dies he's in the form of an asgard. but the other parts of the goa'uld history was fine work.
The added lore that Ra took an Asgard as a host just makes so much sense and brilliantly explains the movie sequences where he appears as a ' grey' alien. He was one of my favourite system lords and wonder what would happen in canon if Ra did survive the movie. I also loved his Jaffa guards, for the amount of detail in the head dresses of the Horus guards and for his first prime the Anubis guard. I think you should do videos on the lore of the various 'guards' the system lords used.
The guards, while indeed super cool, didn't seem Jaffa (lack of pouches); that being said it's not unreasonable to think of them as just human servants
As a major fan of Stargate, Thank you!! I really am so sad that Stargate Universe was cancelled. It has so much potential. Your video re-kindled my love for the mythos and I'm now strongly considering rewatching SG1.
SG-1 never disrupted what was seen in The Movie, just softly retconned some details which were mostly additive than removal. Daniel and O'Neill never saw Ra's alien form in person, just on the frescos in the cave where Daniel learned their language. Ra's use of an Asgard host before finding the Tau'ri came from an RPG called Living Gods: Stargate System Lords, which created backstories for them. The grey alien design was retconned because the showrunners wanted to give their own origin for those with the Asgard, so they changed his physical form. At the end of the day, his entire character profile stands nicely... at the apex of the pyramid.
I don’t normally like it when changes are made from movies to TV shows, but overall they did a great job on Stargate SG1. I think it was better that they went with the change of the Goa’uld (spelling?) to a serpent-like race. They were able to do a lot with that in SG1.
Agreed. James Spader and Kurt Russen really made it a pleasure to watch, and if that was the last if it, it’d still he a fine Science Fiction movie. SG1 took it to a whole new level. It changed the tone of the story a bit. But that’s not a bad thing, in this case. I don’t think the movie presented the environment in which the the team would have been able to create the chemistry that it did. An episode like “Window of Opportunity” would not have worked very well with Russel as O’Neill. It takes the dry-aged humor of JDA to make it work.
Love Stargate i always found the Anubis guards intriguing and their technology that transforms their helmets around thier heads in that movie. I wish they would make a new Film, imagine what a director like Christopher Nolan could do with this.
I really enjoy this movie. Ra was a great villain. All superior, knowing, powerful, and then here come the little Terrans with their atom splitter. Ultimately killed by his own hands.
My favorite show! Thank you for giving it the love it deserves- I hadn't even known Ra wasn't initially the top snake in the gaggle. Very well done NC!
I rather prefer your way of Weaving history together into a Dream, than what I perceived at the Time and Remember now. It makes a lot more sense and and I can carry it forward into the Future without regret.
I am a huge fan of the Stargate mythos. Bought the SG-1 and Atlantis box set and watch them again from time to time. I liked how Ra was showed in the original movie. How he seemed like a shapechanging alien with his mask folding into his head instead of gorgeait like his Horus and Anubis guards. And how at the end, when the bomb blows up, he turned into his gray alien form. I wished the other goa'uld could do that too
The Goul’d weren’t the name of the race ra was in the movie originally. From what the director said he would been from a more ancient race not like the builders of the Stargates. As far as I know the ancients wasn’t there name. So I don’t know what the film version of the gates builders would have been.
@@jedipadwan20 According to SG-1, that was a lie. The Goa'uld didn't build the Stargate, they found them and learned how to use them. They then told humans that they had built the Stargates as a proof of their divinity
I’m just getting into stargate I remember seeing it on tv late at night. Never really paid it any mind, now that I’m older and super into sci-fi this is like gold!
I remember being enthralled by the original movie, and when the series came along, I wondered how Ra fitted into this as some details of him in the film didn't fit with the mythology of the television show. The idea of him being able to take an Asgard as a host actually fits in quite well with the imagery we see briefly in the movie, and though not official, it would work in terms of his backstory.
I'd forgotten half of that. Given the multiple time travel episodes, I'm surprised Ra never came back for even a short arc. I hope we get a reboot or new spinoff some day.
Great video, I've watched the entire franchise all the way through probably half a dozen times and I still learned a thing or two! Though I love the whole franchise just the way it is, I sometimes wonder what it would have been like if the series' had maintained a more serious tone like the film.
Ra's history was rarely touched on in the show, mainly he was continually referenced until season 4 when SG1 had done enough on their own that Ra didn't had to be mention to show how amazing the Tauri were. Also Ra is shown in Continuum.
I always thought they should have written Stargate as a sequel to Rocky Horror Picture Show, in which Frank N Furter is actually Ra, stranded on Earth, laying low with the castle with his Goa'uld crew, doing the Time Warp, not doing a great job of passing as ordinary humans, waiting for their chance to get home. But sadly the Stargate producers decided at the last minute to keep the transexual look for Ra but make it a separate story universe.
The movie was amazing as a stand alone story in my opinion... a great premise and an introduction that lead to a lot more in the series(s). I have to admit though, I never got into following the TV series(s) that much. I did see a lot of the individual episodes here and there, and it was interesting, but I always thought the original movie was better as it felt like a full story arc. (Maybe a bias against episodic TV storytelling on my part).
Where the hell did the Ra inhabiting an Asgaard come from? I've never heard that before apart from fan fiction because when he died in the movie the xrays show him differently.
This is a little known fact but in the original script and even during filming, Ra was supposed to be just a human collaborator - he was not an alien of any kind. But during editing they felt he wasn't convincing enough as a villian, so they added the glowing eyes and modulated voice, altered the subtitles and had James Spader record the voiceover explaining it all. If you go back and watch the movie with this in mind you can kind of see the original intent of certain scenes. Ra was just a servant to help them control the human slaves, and he feared being replaced by the new humans from earth. The actual aliens were going to be revealed in the scrapped second and third movies.
That was an awesome video. Thank you for this. I learnt a few things i did not know about him. Also. Sokar came to earth. So we had hell on earth for a time. Nice... I wish he was Goa'uld that got a better story arch given to him.
I’m a diehard StarGate fan! Thank you for this information! It ties together a lot of puzzle pieces. But where did you get your information? Your story flows but I would really like more in-depth videos on the references to the origin of the Tokra, and connections with RA. More please!! On all aspects of the Movie and especially the series. I’ve seen the movie and series several times. And then there is SG Atlantis!!!
My theory is that the Asgard felt a modercum of responsibility for the fact that one of their own was taken as a host without their knowledge and that this is why they got involved in protecting humans from the Goa'uld to begin with. I imagine that the Asgard that was taken as a host was one of the ones that was in the process of observation over humans developing on earth. I would also think that Ra was able to continue reporting back to the Asgard homeworld Othala while acting as the host. In the end I think this all came to light when the host started to either reject the symbiote or it was damaged in battle with the other Goa'uld. I can totally see the Asgard trying to fix the problem while at the same time battling the Replicators. With the war going on in their own galaxy they still tried their best to protect as many humans as they could in the form of the protected planets treaty. It would of been nice to see a scene years later where Carter finds a file marked "Our Repentance" or something in the Asgard database detailing all of this and why they could never have made up for their greatest mistake without the help of the Fifth Race.
Ra history in stargate lore goes back 24000 yrs. I can see why he fell to death with a simple plan by jackson and Daniel. He was so used to winning, he never felt threatened by anyone. Which turned out to be his weakness.
I think that movie was great and better than the latter half of the series. I think the tv show was at its best when SG1 was the little dog in the fight and by a long shot win. After a while they just felt unstoppable.
Ra if I remember correctly Ra was not a Gul. When he died his figure was revealed as a different body that of an Asguard. This must have been a retcon for the show. But, I always separated the movie from the show due to the major story plot holes Also, his gaffa did not have guls in them like the show. I prefer the movie more then the show.
From what the director said his movie would have start a trilogy of movies where Goul’d were not the name of the race we saw in the movie. They only made the goul’d for money reason I think nothing more.
The series creators took liberties in building on the backstory of Ras species and culture, that’s why Ra looked like how he did vs the goauld on the show and his Jaffa didn’t have incubation pouch in their abdomens like on the show
I love me some (young) Kurt Russell so the movie is one that I watch a few times a year. It has aged well. I loved SGU but the other series, especially SGA, were of no interest. You did a great job on this and your research is much appreciated. 👍
I enjoyed the original film so much more than any of the TV series they've produced. Not that they weren't good, im just not big on serialized storytelling I guess.
I have to agree. The movie was great... a completed storyline (which of course left things open for the series, but was good enough to stand on its own) but the series often smacked of that episodic quickie story thing that I found distasteful in most TV series of the era.
@@glenn_r_frank_author The TV series was a slow burn start, but got crazily better as time went on. If you gave up without finishing the whole, you're definitely missing out. It's so great!
@@glenn_r_frank_author there was meant to be two follow up movies. One about others religions and the third would bring the whole trilogy together for a big avengers like finale
How to create the best fiction universe? Make as real and powerful foes as possible. They are the reflection of the hero And not only the Goa'ul have this... they are better than any other foe in science fiction and drama, probably better than the Borg or Sauron... SW The Empire pales in comparison to how well structured the Goa'ul are
The movie and series are in completely different continuities. Ra in the movie was from a powerfully ancient and very technological race that was unnamed and had psychic powers. He and a young boy's soul merged into a being that was greater as a sum than the individual parts. His weapons are greater in the movie and his punishment jewel turns bones to water (in the script and Novelization and Bill McCay books.) In the series, he is from a race that are parasites and physically possess victims as host bodies and shut out the hosts dominant personality. The series was a crappy Star Trek military ripoff. The movie was awesome.
To bad Ra died so early and easily. He sounds to be smarter and more tactical then any of the others. Had he lived he would of given Sg1 a true challenge.
Say what you will about Ra say that he was an evil person. But at least he kept the system Lords in check. Not one of them ever dared to defy him or even go to war with him. And even if they did they would lose because he had a large territory. As the tok'ra Said " Ra was a Good deterrent he kept things in line stable. As but thanks to you chaos infighting and Death. Many of our numbers have been wiped out no impart thanks to you. "
Interesting as always but I view the movie and the television show as separate entities with the show featuring big helpings of retcon, much of which is not improved by close examination. The movie was very good at doing what an adventure movie is supposed to do by resolving all the plot-elements it established-so good, in fact, that you don't wonder about who created the Stargate in the movie or whether or not it was part of a network. I think the two things can be profitably thought of as completely separate things to enjoy: that is, without injecting the multiple mythologies of a decade's worth of the implacable enemy, the Goa'uld, into the perfectly fine movie, and without saying more than that the movie was the springboard that allowed a wonderful TV series to exist. It makes life simpler: you don't have to ask questions like how bronze-age people could revolt against bitchy aliens who could have bombarded them with asteroids from space, or how, if Ra was a Goa'uld and his warriors were the TV-serie's Jaffa, where their x-shaped abdominal incisions went. As always, thanks for the well-researched and thought-provoking video.
Yeah definitely the show and movie shouldn’t be scrutinized too much in relationships to each other and how the plot points don’t match , the show creators ignored some details of the movie and created new ones concerning the physiology of the Jaffa having incubator pouches and the movie didn’t, a plot hole or scripting misstep in basing a tv series off a movie . The show isn’t going to 💯 percent pick up and follow the movies details because the script writers and producers of the movie weren’t involved in the creation of the show to point out how Ra looked or the look of the Jaffa on show vs look on movie
This has a small part of ra and that of his kind dispite there nature they were capable of what we consider love ra had two wives egeria and hathor apophus had amonet and in the episode fallout a gou'ald had feelings for jonus quinn because of bigotry and discrimination brought on by his interaction with the others of there race she discusted him I don't discriminate if a gou'ald wanted me I would marry her and have babies lol 😀 oh ba'al had a obsession with qatesh
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Jaye Davison made Stargate to me. If he had not been in the movie I would never have given it a second look. And don’t get me started on the Crying Game I loved it so much I’m still crying! 😢
The original film is now a classic. This video was a brilliant series of expositions for the backstory to not only the movie but the series. Bravo.
You just keep this up I came for the Dune lor and stayed for all the rest, you have such a good narrator voice
Thank you ❤
Dito you got my thumbs up 👍
Definitely one of my favorite sci fi movies of all time.
Same!!! Love love looove it!
Never noticed they retcon'd Ra as a Goa'uld, since the movie showed his true form looked like a "gray"/Asgard cousin(Sekkari?) in energy. It seemed like SG1 hinted that was the reason he was the "Supreme System Lord"...He was something closer to Anubis after his change.
My only question is what was he in the original movie?
wait, i'm confused because i remember when Ra DIES he's literally an alien Asgard, but in this video it's suggested that he was an Asgard before he took human form?
a bit backwards don't you think?
@@5226-p1e that what I wants to know was he a Asgard or something else in the original movie
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well to be frank, the movie was created before the tv show and it was a different lore in the tv show than the movie, which means the alien that ra was in the movie was his true form.
he wasn't an asgard, but according to the sg1 lore he was because he looked kind of like an asgard with sharp teeth.
but in the original movie he also wasn't a goa'uld either, he was only known to be as Ra the sun god and that he was an alien, and when the bomb went off just before he dies he started to resemble a asgard looking creature.
@@5226-p1e or before they recon him to be goa’uld he was a alien but Asgard’s weren’t their name but some other name if the tv show never became reality I’m sure in a sequel we would have found out who he really was
I didn't even read the title of the video before playing this amazing video. All i say was the eyes and knew it was Ra. I love the Start Gate movie, SG1, Atlantis and SGU.
The actor portraying Ra is Jay Davidson, and to this day, I am still mesmerized by the sight of him. His other most famous role was in The Crying Game, another of my favorite films….💜
He stopped his movie career because he got sick of the fame after Stargate and now leads a more modest life working in fashion.
@@Ozymandias1 For some reason, I am not surprised learning of this choice 😂
Thank you for putting all the pieces of Ra's history together. That had to be some real work. I really enjoyed that lore.
I love the whole Stargate movie/show concept and storylines. The parasites were bad and the Wraith were MUCH worse but the worst of the Stargate baddies, to me, was the Ori. Absolutely terrifying!
I agree but I have much more dread for the wraiths, the culling and the sound of wraith darts in the sky, absolute nightmare fuel, imagine the life being drained from you, terror, shear terror
But the Goul’d were loving gods who gave their people ever lasting love and life.
she was a little off with the asgard part. i mean if you saw the movie he dies in asgard form when he was supposed to be human.
in this video it's suggested that he was an asgard first and then became human which doesn't really explain how when he dies he's in the form of an asgard.
but the other parts of the goa'uld history was fine work.
@@5226-p1e - I believe you're thinking of Ra, not Anubis. Ra was the antagonist in the movie.
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yes, because that's what this video was talking about, not the other way around.
The added lore that Ra took an Asgard as a host just makes so much sense and brilliantly explains the movie sequences where he appears as a ' grey' alien. He was one of my favourite system lords and wonder what would happen in canon if Ra did survive the movie. I also loved his Jaffa guards, for the amount of detail in the head dresses of the Horus guards and for his first prime the Anubis guard. I think you should do videos on the lore of the various 'guards' the system lords used.
The guards, while indeed super cool, didn't seem Jaffa (lack of pouches);
that being said it's not unreasonable to think of them as just human servants
It's not canon.
As a major fan of Stargate, Thank you!! I really am so sad that Stargate Universe was cancelled. It has so much potential. Your video re-kindled my love for the mythos and I'm now strongly considering rewatching SG1.
SG-1 never disrupted what was seen in The Movie, just softly retconned some details which were mostly additive than removal. Daniel and O'Neill never saw Ra's alien form in person, just on the frescos in the cave where Daniel learned their language. Ra's use of an Asgard host before finding the Tau'ri came from an RPG called Living Gods: Stargate System Lords, which created backstories for them. The grey alien design was retconned because the showrunners wanted to give their own origin for those with the Asgard, so they changed his physical form. At the end of the day, his entire character profile stands nicely... at the apex of the pyramid.
Yea much of the info in this vid isn't canon.
I don’t normally like it when changes are made from movies to TV shows, but overall they did a great job on Stargate SG1. I think it was better that they went with the change of the Goa’uld (spelling?) to a serpent-like race. They were able to do a lot with that in SG1.
Love the movie and the series. It was interesting and one of the most original sci Fi movies I had seen.
thank you for doing these Stargate videos. This franchise is fantastic and deserves more support.
The movie was a fun stort but there series movied it forward. The movie was good at setting the stage.
I agree wholeheartedly
One of the few cases of a movie becoming a better tv show. Though i never got into universe.
Agreed. James Spader and Kurt Russen really made it a pleasure to watch, and if that was the last if it, it’d still he a fine Science Fiction movie.
SG1 took it to a whole new level. It changed the tone of the story a bit. But that’s not a bad thing, in this case. I don’t think the movie presented the environment in which the the team would have been able to create the chemistry that it did. An episode like “Window of Opportunity” would not have worked very well with Russel as O’Neill. It takes the dry-aged humor of JDA to make it work.
Love Stargate i always found the Anubis guards intriguing and their technology that transforms their helmets around thier heads in that movie. I wish they would make a new Film, imagine what a director like Christopher Nolan could do with this.
This is one of those shows I never watched but was always fascinated by
I had a crush on Jaye Davidson for so many years due to this movie^^
I really enjoy this movie. Ra was a great villain. All superior, knowing, powerful, and then here come the little Terrans with their atom splitter. Ultimately killed by his own hands.
Terrans, who are these, we are the proud Tauri, the fifth great race
I love your video, and I loved this movie. Such luscious imagery. And Jaye Davison was an awesome Ra!
Thank you!
SG rebboot announced. Bree Larson as Danielle Jackson
God forbid, don't even joke
My favorite show! Thank you for giving it the love it deserves- I hadn't even known Ra wasn't initially the top snake in the gaggle. Very well done NC!
Thanks for making an old young boy, relive some of the better and thrilling storytelling, it awesome to learn about the history of Ra.
I rather prefer your way of Weaving history together into a Dream, than what I perceived at the Time and Remember now. It makes a lot more sense and and I can carry it forward into the Future without regret.
I loved this movie and the tv show both were great.
Stargate is one of the best , if not the best universe ever made.I love movie , as well tv series.10\10.Thank you and have a nice day
Oh heck yeah!! Thank you
I really wish we could have a series about the wars between the Goa'uld and the Asgard. See both empires at their strongest fighting!
I am a huge fan of the Stargate mythos. Bought the SG-1 and Atlantis box set and watch them again from time to time.
I liked how Ra was showed in the original movie. How he seemed like a shapechanging alien with his mask folding into his head instead of gorgeait like his Horus and Anubis guards. And how at the end, when the bomb blows up, he turned into his gray alien form.
I wished the other goa'uld could do that too
The Goul’d weren’t the name of the race ra was in the movie originally. From what the director said he would been from a more ancient race not like the builders of the Stargates. As far as I know the ancients wasn’t there name. So I don’t know what the film version of the gates builders would have been.
@@jedipadwan20 According to SG-1, that was a lie. The Goa'uld didn't build the Stargate, they found them and learned how to use them. They then told humans that they had built the Stargates as a proof of their divinity
@@Kamenriderneo actually I mess up I had it be he instead of the please reread my edit comment
I’m just getting into stargate I remember seeing it on tv late at night. Never really paid it any mind, now that I’m older and super into sci-fi this is like gold!
Loved the original film! Thank you for looking into this :)
I remember being enthralled by the original movie, and when the series came along, I wondered how Ra fitted into this as some details of him in the film didn't fit with the mythology of the television show. The idea of him being able to take an Asgard as a host actually fits in quite well with the imagery we see briefly in the movie, and though not official, it would work in terms of his backstory.
Nicely summarized, thank you!
I'd forgotten half of that. Given the multiple time travel episodes, I'm surprised Ra never came back for even a short arc. I hope we get a reboot or new spinoff some day.
I believe Ra did when SG1 discovered Janus's Time Traveling Puddle Jumper and Traveled to Egypt.
A prayer to Ra, apparently translated from the ancient Egyptian language...(seriously!)
There's only one God
He is the Fun God
RA! RA! RA!
The Asgard Host connection, first time I hear about it... fills the continuity void perfectly
Indeed.. explaining the dissimilarities as a failing in their ability to maintain the Asgardian host was particularly clever.
Joey
The Asgard were having genetically problems of their own, for centuries or more
That might be what upset Ra's "stomach"
Because it isn't canon.
Thanks guys. Good place to start
Thanks for the window inside the Stargate reality!
THANK YOU! I have been saying Ra took an Asgard host for a long time.
But it isn't canon
Nice! Just started watching season 1 of SG1 again!
Woah watched all the SG episodes but a lot I did not know here, thank you!
My pleasure!
The actor that modeled his human form. Made the character interesting in the on screen film.
Great video, I've watched the entire franchise all the way through probably half a dozen times and I still learned a thing or two! Though I love the whole franchise just the way it is, I sometimes wonder what it would have been like if the series' had maintained a more serious tone like the film.
Never watched the series but loved the film
Ra's history was rarely touched on in the show, mainly he was continually referenced until season 4 when SG1 had done enough on their own that Ra didn't had to be mention to show how amazing the Tauri were. Also Ra is shown in Continuum.
Really? I've been through the series twice and remember him being referenced in every season. We even saw him twice in S8 and Continuum.
I always thought they should have written Stargate as a sequel to Rocky Horror Picture Show, in which Frank N Furter is actually Ra, stranded on Earth, laying low with the castle with his Goa'uld crew, doing the Time Warp, not doing a great job of passing as ordinary humans, waiting for their chance to get home. But sadly the Stargate producers decided at the last minute to keep the transexual look for Ra but make it a separate story universe.
Singing. Im just a sweet transvestite from transexual transylvania. ( tim curry )
Well...... I love your theory. It's absolutely insane but I love it.
I never heard of ra being transgender
@@jedipadwan20 Well then, look at him.
@@jbtechcon7434 Egyptians were like that in real life an I don’t see where he was a transgender
The movie was amazing as a stand alone story in my opinion... a great premise and an introduction that lead to a lot more in the series(s). I have to admit though, I never got into following the TV series(s) that much. I did see a lot of the individual episodes here and there, and it was interesting, but I always thought the original movie was better as it felt like a full story arc. (Maybe a bias against episodic TV storytelling on my part).
even with the stargate symbols and the potential combinations of symbols?
It would be nice to know where in the series we can listen to the things you brought out to create this video again. Anyway, great job.
Where the hell did the Ra inhabiting an Asgaard come from? I've never heard that before apart from fan fiction because when he died in the movie the xrays show him differently.
It's from non-canon sources
This is a little known fact but in the original script and even during filming, Ra was supposed to be just a human collaborator - he was not an alien of any kind. But during editing they felt he wasn't convincing enough as a villian, so they added the glowing eyes and modulated voice, altered the subtitles and had James Spader record the voiceover explaining it all.
If you go back and watch the movie with this in mind you can kind of see the original intent of certain scenes.
Ra was just a servant to help them control the human slaves, and he feared being replaced by the new humans from earth. The actual aliens were going to be revealed in the scrapped second and third movies.
That was an awesome video. Thank you for this.
I learnt a few things i did not know about him.
Also. Sokar came to earth. So we had hell on earth for a time.
Nice...
I wish he was Goa'uld that got a better story arch given to him.
I’m a diehard StarGate fan! Thank you for this information! It ties together a lot of puzzle pieces. But where did you get your information? Your story flows but I would really like more in-depth videos on the references to the origin of the Tokra, and connections with RA. More please!! On all aspects of the Movie and especially the series. I’ve seen the movie and series several times. And then there is SG Atlantis!!!
A lot of the info in this vid isn't canon - particularly the part about him taking an Asgard as a host
My theory is that the Asgard felt a modercum of responsibility for the fact that one of their own was taken as a host without their knowledge and that this is why they got involved in protecting humans from the Goa'uld to begin with. I imagine that the Asgard that was taken as a host was one of the ones that was in the process of observation over humans developing on earth. I would also think that Ra was able to continue reporting back to the Asgard homeworld Othala while acting as the host.
In the end I think this all came to light when the host started to either reject the symbiote or it was damaged in battle with the other Goa'uld.
I can totally see the Asgard trying to fix the problem while at the same time battling the Replicators. With the war going on in their own galaxy they still tried their best to protect as many humans as they could in the form of the protected planets treaty.
It would of been nice to see a scene years later where Carter finds a file marked "Our Repentance" or something in the Asgard database detailing all of this and why they could never have made up for their greatest mistake without the help of the Fifth Race.
Ra taking an Asgard as a host isn't canon.
Please do a lore video on the entire life of Anubis. Please
Ra history in stargate lore goes back 24000 yrs. I can see why he fell to death with a simple plan by jackson and Daniel. He was so used to winning, he never felt threatened by anyone. Which turned out to be his weakness.
I think that movie was great and better than the latter half of the series. I think the tv show was at its best when SG1 was the little dog in the fight and by a long shot win. After a while they just felt unstoppable.
Ra if I remember correctly Ra was not a Gul. When he died his figure was revealed as a different body that of an Asguard.
This must have been a retcon for the show. But, I always separated the movie from the show due to the major story plot holes
Also, his gaffa did not have guls in them like the show.
I prefer the movie more then the show.
From what the director said his movie would have start a trilogy of movies where Goul’d were not the name of the race we saw in the movie. They only made the goul’d for money reason I think nothing more.
The series creators took liberties in building on the backstory of Ras species and culture, that’s why Ra looked like how he did vs the goauld on the show and his Jaffa didn’t have incubation pouch in their abdomens like on the show
Ra was a Goa'uld and he didn't take an Asgard as a host. Many details were retconned in the series
I love me some (young) Kurt Russell so the movie is one that I watch a few times a year. It has aged well. I loved SGU but the other series, especially SGA, were of no interest. You did a great job on this and your research is much appreciated. 👍
Defiantly the sexiest System Lord
I saw Stargate in theaters. Aaaaannnd, I'm old now...... haha
Horus guard's. nose drips......
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*Setesh guard* The Horus guard's beak glistens
The rings were made by the Ancients.
I enjoyed the original film so much more than any of the TV series they've produced. Not that they weren't good, im just not big on serialized storytelling I guess.
I loved that movie when I was young. This is probably a unpopular opinion but..... I liked the movie a lot more than the show.
STARGATE. for me, was a great sci fi movie. I have rewatched it many times. Not many movies I can say that about.
I have to agree. The movie was great... a completed storyline (which of course left things open for the series, but was good enough to stand on its own) but the series often smacked of that episodic quickie story thing that I found distasteful in most TV series of the era.
@@glenn_r_frank_author The TV series was a slow burn start, but got crazily better as time went on. If you gave up without finishing the whole, you're definitely missing out. It's so great!
@@glenn_r_frank_author there was meant to be two follow up movies. One about others religions and the third would bring the whole trilogy together for a big avengers like finale
@@FernZepeda I guess I would have to go rewatch em all from the start...
How to create the best fiction universe?
Make as real and powerful foes as possible. They are the reflection of the hero
And not only the Goa'ul have this... they are better than any other foe in science fiction and drama, probably better than the Borg or Sauron... SW The Empire pales in comparison to how well structured the Goa'ul are
"there can only be one Ra" Ra
Anyone else a little weirded out by Ra's harem of nearly naked boys? Knowing the Goa'ould's propensity for sadism, my stomach turns.
Straight male here. I fancied Ra 😅
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The movie and series are in completely different continuities.
Ra in the movie was from a powerfully ancient and very technological race that was unnamed and had psychic powers. He and a young boy's soul merged into a being that was greater as a sum than the individual parts.
His weapons are greater in the movie and his punishment jewel turns bones to water (in the script and Novelization and Bill McCay books.)
In the series, he is from a race that are parasites and physically possess victims as host bodies and shut out the hosts dominant personality.
The series was a crappy Star Trek military ripoff.
The movie was awesome.
Ever wonder if these shows are trying to tell us something about actual extraterrestrials and their relationship with humanity?
To bad Ra died so early and easily. He sounds to be smarter and more tactical then any of the others. Had he lived he would of given Sg1 a true challenge.
There is one in the original movie ra isn’t a Gould he more Asgard like
Long story short;
Nuke : 1
Ra : 0
Ra's brother was Amun-Re and not Apophis!
I thought Ra was the creator of the goa'uld
Say what you will about Ra say that he was an evil person. But at least he kept the system Lords in check. Not one of them ever dared to defy him or even go to war with him. And even if they did they would lose because he had a large territory.
As the tok'ra Said " Ra was a Good deterrent he kept things in line stable. As but thanks to you chaos infighting and Death. Many of our numbers have been wiped out no impart thanks to you. "
damn... this beautiful voice puts me to sleep :)). loving the stargate lore. pity it died :(
Interesting as always but I view the movie and the television show as separate entities with the show featuring big helpings of retcon, much of which is not improved by close examination.
The movie was very good at doing what an adventure movie is supposed to do by resolving all the plot-elements it established-so good, in fact, that you don't wonder about who created the Stargate in the movie or whether or not it was part of a network.
I think the two things can be profitably thought of as completely separate things to enjoy: that is, without injecting the multiple mythologies of a decade's worth of the implacable enemy, the Goa'uld, into the perfectly fine movie, and without saying more than that the movie was the springboard that allowed a wonderful TV series to exist.
It makes life simpler: you don't have to ask questions like how bronze-age people could revolt against bitchy aliens who could have bombarded them with asteroids from space, or how, if Ra was a Goa'uld and his warriors were the TV-serie's Jaffa, where their x-shaped abdominal incisions went.
As always, thanks for the well-researched and thought-provoking video.
Yeah definitely the show and movie shouldn’t be scrutinized too much in relationships to each other and how the plot points don’t match , the show creators ignored some details of the movie and created new ones concerning the physiology of the Jaffa having incubator pouches and the movie didn’t, a plot hole or scripting misstep in basing a tv series off a movie . The show isn’t going to 💯 percent pick up and follow the movies details because the script writers and producers of the movie weren’t involved in the creation of the show to point out how Ra looked or the look of the Jaffa on show vs look on movie
I thank he was really cute
Best baddie. Ever.
I am like 856
This has a small part of ra and that of his kind dispite there nature they were capable of what we consider love ra had two wives egeria and hathor apophus had amonet and in the episode fallout a gou'ald had feelings for jonus quinn because of bigotry and discrimination brought on by his interaction with the others of there race she discusted him I don't discriminate if a gou'ald wanted me I would marry her and have babies lol 😀 oh ba'al had a obsession with qatesh
Bruh as a kid i never knew if this was a man or a woman lol
I only liked the Stargate movie. I wasn't a fan of series. Exception groundhog day episode. Almost every shows groundhog day ep. Is good.
wanted to watch this..but that female voice just drives me away...