2016 kuleya weekend ye black Friday ndamenywa kwelinye ibandla evooslorus ndaqala apho ukuyibona le tomoyi heyiiii yandihlupha in my spirit ndambuza lomfundisi wakhona yinindaba nidumisa nomoya wezangama .....kaphindanga wandfounela till this day kodwa asikwazi ukuthobela umoya wedlozi ebandleni ngekeeeeee
Well said Mfundisi wami, Thomoyi is to mush, nami ngiyavumelana nawe ukuphapha nje qah. Umdanso wezangoma loya. Kuthi abazalwane banenkani nje. Futhi abantu abafaka lomoya ilabantu abasha ababehamba ama club. Ayikhulunywe lento sicela part 2 walenkulumo.
Revelation 2:13 I know where you live-where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city-where Satan lives. umoya wethomoyi
Sengiytholile I video ye thomoyi. Cha bazalwane ayikho into embi kangako ngayo ithomoyi ngokubona Kwami. Kodwa nongahambelani nayo angilwi naye,ukubona kwakhe naye
In all our findings in this life, we must find discernment because the corruption of this Generation is very deep rooted, we cannot afford not to see in the Spirit. Decern even wat you dance. Not every dance is for you eeh. Find Discernment.
Hayi zinceku zenkosi ngiyajabula uma kukhona zinceku eziyibonayo lendaba, yhaazi umoya kaThixo wakhuluma kimi ngingekayibambi kakuhle lento ukuthi kahle kahle yenziwa kanjani, uthi kimi mina ngendlela eyenziwa ngayo besethi ubuke madoda mase eyenza, like they become like in a uyabona mos amaGay , I'm a newly ordained pastor still serving under my father in the Lord, now i have a problem with this Thomoyi, for everyone loves it and I can't pretend when they start i just become off, and the other pastors in there we were ordained by the same bishop same church they even encorage it Yhoo hay kunzima, can't say anything , cause kuzobangathi ngizenza ungcwele ngcwele and the vision is not mine.kunzima befundisi sengicela uThixo angincede
I cannot say much about Thomoyi because I know very little about its origins and meaning. But my sense is that there is a genuine hunger to experience God and the things of God. But in the absence of a genuine godly experience to satisfy that hunger, some will seek to create their own experiences...in the flesh, which leads to weird manifestations. May God help us not to be misdirected in our quest to experience Him.
I had to go check this Thomoyi, ayi ayiyekwe ngempela ngivumelana noMapholoba kule. This dance is not Godly. Ngiyafisa ukuzwa i take ka pastor Given Gobhozi🙏🏾
In my church we do Thomoyi as kind of praise... but we know when to stop... Elami lithi if You do Thomoyi ibese iba ungovernable ngokwami kusuke sekunomoya losuke sekagibele kulomdanso
Uma nje abantu asebemukele uJesu njengeNkosi noMsindisi bengafundiswa 1. Ukuthi kusho ukuthini ukusindiswa 2. Who they are in Christ...... 3. There will never be ithomoyi - whatever that is, ezinkonzweni Amateachings emabandleni are very important, ayikho enye indlela yokukhula eNkosini Uma nje ningakafundisi niyolokhu nakhuza ithomoyi
When besenza ithomoyi they don't pray at all and what happened to worship songs, some they don't even sing worship songs. I agree with the prophet let the gifts manifest if basemoyeni oyingcwele. What they say as well is out of order, why say things that you don't even know, why fake tongues as well. Yes ithomoyi inespirit umxhentso wayo doesn't make sure
Ithomoyi came to revive the church. After the covid 19 lockdowns,the church was so discouraged and defeated. But when ithomoyi came it revived and strengthened the remains. It also brought back those who got tired during those lockdowns. So u can say what u say about it.
Im late but ill coment... The bible says when the ark of the covanant was brought in the city of david, David danced until he was almost naked.. he was dancing in the presence of the Lord.. I am to believe that we have people doinf outings and dancing amatshwaleni and stuff, but theres then doing things in the presence of the Lord... In reality even though most eould choose to dissagree, in church we have been dancing, even as they dance outside.. but what makes us differ is that we doing it in His presence... Build and encourage those that rather stay and enjoy his presence rather than go outside and do bad.. ithomoyi is said to be a service or inkonzo where people dance in the presence....
It would have been better if you gave us a background of what is Thomoyi before asking if it is correct or wrong. Mina I don't know what you talking about honestly.
Had the same problem with this discussion. They should have shown a clip or explained first. But after checking on Tiktok it seems like it is a dance and certain keyboard sound...
on my side mina pastor siba Thomoyi into kaNkulunkulu but manje siyenziwa umdlalo mina ngisayenza uNkulunkulu wayekhuluma and enze izimangaliso during thomoyi and impela uyanqena kuMoya..but lokhu kokuthi akushunyayelwa ay it wrong it okay when we praying sikuMoya then for praise and worship
I think iqiniso lithi sidukile but where is God's Army i think yiyo efike yasifundisa ukudansa okuright angeke sakulekela lokho ngekhathi zoNokulunga abo Pastor Linda lase ibandla liduka kuyindumiso nakuma chorus kwaqala kwangena usathane ke nabesibusisa obaba uBheshu badumisa ezangomeni manje ngenxa yemali buyani God's Army in your absence sekukhona ukweduka
Waze walikhuluma iqiniso mfundisi. Ihluphile i thomoyi, filled with disorder kanti God is the God of order not disorder.. that thing is time consuming, mfundisi qinisile igcwele ukuphapha nobutabane
I beg to differ with the pastor thina as worshiper's and MC's we pray and ask God to lead the service mina I'm deeply offended nina nihlupha ngokuthi nihamba ngenyama uthi umenyiwe uwubona uMoya oyiNgcwele unyakazisa abantu nge worship noma ngamachorus ufune ukuqhuba I protocol yokuthi umenyiwe ukuthi ushumayele dancing In a church kade yaqala as for izinsimbi kade zaqala in the bible kwakusetshenziswa amahabhu nezigubhu nensimbi ekhencezayo lezinamhlanje ezisetshenziswa izangoma manje ama keyboard it's just a new version yezigubhu zasebhayibhelini wena yalusa isolakho uhlukane nokubuka abadunusayo nabanamathanga amhlophe wena mfundisi thana ukhuza umdunuso ebandleni worship is about heals, uplifts, soothes the soul of a person when you see a person rolling on the floor when I hold the mic lowomhlabelelo unyakazise ibandla bekhale abakhalayo barole abarolayo akusiwo wonke umuntu osuke eholwa imimoya some of us we fast before we go to church and ask God to take charge and we allow God to change the situation ashintshe ukusindwa ngabantu bengena nemithwalo usindwe ungakwazi ukudumisa amachorus asuke eculelwa ukukhulula lomoya ofasile ebandleni nasisuke sigiya sigiyela uNkulunkulu eqaqe amaketanga abopha ibandla yingakho abanye begcine begqimuzeka yonke indawo basuke bengazenzi it's not I disorder vele manje miningi imimoya e operater emabandleni even nani bafundisi anilungile kumanje nceku ubukana namathanga amahle aphuphuzela uboya ufunani emathangeni nezinqa zabantu usenkonzweni noma uzuke uyo scouter izinqa namathanga aybo bazalwane izwe lonakele ikakhulu kazi emabandleni abafundisi bayagqaba bagqabela ibandla ngenxa yokuthi bafuna ukwenza ama miracles nceku wena thana ukhuza umoya wokungaziphathi kahle enkonzweni kubefundisi, worshipers, nebandla as a whole ngoba nobufebe sebubuningi emabandleni engikuvumayo enkulumeni yakho ukuthi sisukile kwivangeli lakuqala ngoba izwi lithathiwe lenziwa into yekufeza iinkanuko zabantu I don't do it ngizifaka kulenkulumo ngoba siyathula sikubona emabandleni kwenzeka singenzi lutho sivike ngokuthi sinikela konke kuNkulunkulu uye ozokwenza umsebenzi
I am not here for the iThomoyi because nasebandleni engikulo ayenzeki. What I can say is there’s no need to be dragging other churches that you were previously part of in the name of rebuking thomoyi. You can do so without dragging indlela yokukhonza kwamanye amabandla ngoba lelobandla lisayibandla komunye omuntu cos nawe lake laba yibandla kuwe and you saw nothing about it. Amen
No! There is nothing wrong with drugging churches deeds, if his experience needs what he saw let him say it, for example bengingazi mina ukt how evil it is.
Amen Profet siyabonga ukukhuluma iqiniso lezwi lika Nkulunkulu and kuyiqiniso umoya ka Nkulunkulu awunayo idisordee une order 🙏🙏
This is the version of my mentor. Bishop Skhakhane... We need more of this
Hayi vele lo moya we thomoyi ufuna ukuhlolwa straight ayikho lento bakwethu ngiyabonga man of God ukuyi confirmer
2016 kuleya weekend ye black Friday ndamenywa kwelinye ibandla evooslorus ndaqala apho ukuyibona le tomoyi heyiiii yandihlupha in my spirit ndambuza lomfundisi wakhona yinindaba nidumisa nomoya wezangama .....kaphindanga wandfounela till this day kodwa asikwazi ukuthobela umoya wedlozi ebandleni ngekeeeeee
I love this Man🙌🙌🙌🔥🔥🔥 akagegi uciniso ulibeka njengoba
Siyambonga uNkulunkulu ngawe Prophet Ngcobo. Kuhle ukubona kusakhona amadoda kaNkulunkulu emela ivangela ngalendlela
Angiythandanga for the first time ngiybona lethomoyi , ngike ngayibona ngivakashile yooooh bafeth . Angaz or ukungapheleli kwezphiwo ebandleni , nowadays isphiwo sokuhlola omoya syadingeka kakhulu bazalwane
It is true. People are used to the presence of God and they can't even feel or see gore the presence of God is gone . Because we play church
Ngiyamfakazela lobhuti okhulumayo ngiyayazi ithomoyi izimangaza zayo ungeza kimi ngikutshele nguyamfakazela ngikumoya
I wonder where does it originate from and what's the meaning of the name? Yimbi maan ayithandeki. Just watched it now aaayyiiii ngiyala. Hasetsona
We need more of the teaching, I never knew the truth that is spoken here. thank you
Sicela uBishop Sikhakhane, Apostle Lungi M and Bishop Mbuyazi next week
@@molebohenglibi4585 hhawu cha angivumi kodwa ku Lungi M ithomoyi uy'buka nje leya😂😂😂
@@molebohenglibi4585please!
syabadinga abafundisi abakhuluma amaqiniso akanje Amen wow I love it
Amen Mfundisi siyabonga ngiyezwa indlela owabona ngayo ebandleni elalikumemile futhi kufanele uyithathe ngendlela osho ngayo . Ngimdala ukube ngake ngayibona lento oyishoyo nangaba Fundisi asebeyizangoma , okunye ngeke umuntu alekelele amandla kaMoya oyiNgcwele futhi uma usudala i disorder. Ngiyabonga Mfundisi uma uthi bakhona abadala abashoyo ukuthi kwakushaywa izandla kugidwa , ngiyakuzwa mina uma uthi ukugida makungadli isikhathi sikaNkulunkulu
Syabonga Nceku yeNkosi i hope ozakwenu bayakuzwa ngoba masekugidwa ithomoyi bavaleka amehlo ngisho bedunuswela abagida ithomoyi
Yabona Bab sibah uma sikhuluma iqiniso futhi engeke iphikwe yabona lomoya awukho ryt ngempela yabona njeh ngendlela okuba kucishe ifane namaJericho like lento ye thomoyi empeleni injongo yayoh iyaphazamisa kakhulu and iyacika kakhulu kunayoyonke imidanso edanswa ezinkonzweni
True cc
Nami ngiyaxhwaya Uma sekuthiwa UNKULUNKULU wala ekhaya noba kuthiwa uGcobo lwala endlini
Ayikho into eyi boost Ka Moya ongcwele Dlamini sanuthetha into esingena sense bangcwele umoya ukhona kungekho Thomoyi
😂😂😂😂😂😂ngayibuka kanye ku TikTok ngathi yeeeerrrr nazi izangoma ezincane😅😅😅
Ngayizonda ifika lothomoyi..khona nabashaya impempe no vududu...kuninginje kuyaphithizela.
Mina angizanga ngayithanda ngabuza omunye umzalwane ukuthi licaza ukuthi I igama lethomoyi bahluleka ukungiphendula . Siyambonga UNkulunkulu ukuthi basekhona abazalwane abahlola omoya 🙏🙏
Well said Mfundisi wami, Thomoyi is to mush, nami ngiyavumelana nawe ukuphapha nje qah. Umdanso wezangoma loya. Kuthi abazalwane banenkani nje. Futhi abantu abafaka lomoya ilabantu abasha ababehamba ama club. Ayikhulunywe lento sicela part 2 walenkulumo.
What is Thomoyi!? What is the background of it? Who introduced it? Does it help the church?
Wakhuluma intezwakalayo umfundisi Ngcobo ngalento esidlangile emabandleni kanye nasemcimbini yabazalwane eyenziwa kumosheke iskhathi sentshumayelo, nokunye okbalulekile.
Siba ay hleze ngibuka ipower hour ngingaphawuli kodwa kuloku ngyahluleka ukuthula,mina angsiye umprofethi kodwa ngumphathi weYouth ebandleni engikulo,mhlazane kudanswa iThomoyi cha ngezwa nje emoyeni wami ukuthi aykhona,bayaye bathi babuka ihlo lwami abantu abasha,babona lona nje bahlala phansi beshesha,ngoba ngezwa nje ukuthi akujabuleki kumina ngaphakathi,ngingomunye owakhuliswa ogogo Siba lapho wawuhlaliswa phansi uthi uyafakaza kani unecrush enhlizweni,ay lobaba omlethile uqinisile baba zashonaphi lezophiwo zokuthulisa abafakaza nemjolo?from Mom Bophela
Agree with you, i-Youth isidlebeleke kakhulu endlini yeNkosi Kanti iyadinga ukukhuzwa.
Hhhe JESU sithanda leliya lakudala. Ngoba Yolo elasikhulula esontweni phansi ngethomoyi .NOMOYA wobundindwa ebandleni likaJesu .safa amaruji namacutex nemakeup lapho .bazobusiseka banishiye ngimangele nina .mah babuye lapho bathi status sidla kubi SINCEDE Nkosi
Ayi ayithandeki nje . If unomoya ngempela uyezwa ukuthi ayikhona
Syabonga angiyifuni ithomoyi ayi Kabi
Yeah umdlalo xem izangoma and the disco as well, God have mercy
Ngiyabonga Nceku uma chaza ngeThomoyi (ukuphapha), yona ibuye ingabi nakho ukuthobelana.
Vele aphi amagifts eHoly Spirit? Akufocus(we) kumagifts.
Kazi ubani owafika nalento yethomoyi. Akuhlolwe omoya.
Lethomoyi yakhona umoya omubi nje kuphela
Revelation 2:13
I know where you live-where Satan has his throne. Yet you remain true to my name. You did not renounce your faith in me, not even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was put to death in your city-where Satan lives. umoya wethomoyi
Khuzani o keyboard player that all.
Nathula sooonke le skhathi obhushiri be lala no sisi bethu
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
NjengoBishob Maphumulo kadelento ngayivala ebandleni,kwababuhlungu futhi maninoMoya kaNkulunkulu yanikhuza ezintweni ezizolimaza ibandla,this is not good umoya wezwe lo umoya wamadimoni &banenkani abantu abadansa lento kasathane abahloniphi, kodwa yithi njengabefundisi esinamandla okuvala lento emabandleni kaJesu 🙏🙏🙏
Kwabakhona ne kwasakwasa esontweni
Malandela mfowethu khawulande Mathaks Ntsomoyi singena ngayo kwamoya plz Zweli
Usho nje?
I didn't know there was something called tomoyi until today
Sengiytholile I video ye thomoyi. Cha bazalwane ayikho into embi kangako ngayo ithomoyi ngokubona Kwami.
Kodwa nongahambelani nayo angilwi naye,ukubona kwakhe naye
Nkosi yam bengazi noba yini I thomoyi. I think the body of christ should be addressed about this Thomoyi.
Kukuphi lapho okwa shaywa khona I keyboard yaze yaphulwa can someone trace there if it's true
Kona kuyabheda besebathi singanabeli ngalento
I boost yani ngoba vele siphila kuMoya...Mfundisi..🙊
In all our findings in this life, we must find discernment because the corruption of this Generation is very deep rooted, we cannot afford not to see in the Spirit. Decern even wat you dance. Not every dance is for you eeh. Find Discernment.
Kmele lenkalvasi ibuye uvuswe
Amen 🙏
Hayi asikhuzekeni madoda ngeke lento intento ewrong
Pantshi ngethomthomayi
I don't know this thomoyi cela i video yayo ndizibonele pls
Hayi zinceku zenkosi ngiyajabula uma kukhona zinceku eziyibonayo lendaba, yhaazi umoya kaThixo wakhuluma kimi ngingekayibambi kakuhle lento ukuthi kahle kahle yenziwa kanjani, uthi kimi mina ngendlela eyenziwa ngayo besethi ubuke madoda mase eyenza, like they become like in a uyabona mos amaGay , I'm a newly ordained pastor still serving under my father in the Lord, now i have a problem with this Thomoyi, for everyone loves it and I can't pretend when they start i just become off, and the other pastors in there we were ordained by the same bishop same church they even encorage it Yhoo hay kunzima, can't say anything , cause kuzobangathi ngizenza ungcwele ngcwele and the vision is not mine.kunzima befundisi sengicela uThixo angincede
Umuntu okhuluma ngokuphapha akayazi akayibonanga abantu bathole abantwana ngayo kugidwa abantu bemanzi umjuluko kunqamuka amathawula
Kahle Mapholoba
Awusakhuzi nawe Siba.......
Ivale Nceku.....
Morning
Akuhlangane uProphet Ngcobo no Skhakhane 😅😅😅
I cannot say much about Thomoyi because I know very little about its origins and meaning.
But my sense is that there is a genuine hunger to experience God and the things of God. But in the absence of a genuine godly experience to satisfy that hunger, some will seek to create their own experiences...in the flesh, which leads to weird manifestations.
May God help us not to be misdirected in our quest to experience Him.
he is straight forward this guy ,straight up😅Shaya prophet 😅nonsense gotta be discouraged 😅
Bab Mapholoba ngzokushayisa namie
Ukukholwa kwethu sekyngaze kuphazanyiswe njer into encane ithomoyi , ayyy chaaaakshuthike lona ongakithi usemncaneee ayyyy ngyalaaaaa ... uNkulunkulu akangaqanjelwa amanga amen
Useke washo yini bhuti kuwena ukuthi uyayithanda?
Nami ngisho njalo weAndile
@@MbalenhleZuma-e4u kuwe ushilo ukuthi akaythandi 🤷
@@nqobilesibiya3126 ngeke Sotobe abantu bahlulwe ukuprofetha sibhubhiswa ikhovidi kodwa ngethomoyi nje engabulali muntu sekubuya iybonakaliso ayyyy ngeke
I had to go check this Thomoyi, ayi ayiyekwe ngempela ngivumelana noMapholoba kule. This dance is not Godly. Ngiyafisa ukuzwa i take ka pastor Given Gobhozi🙏🏾
Uyitholephi my brother, ngfuna ukubona ukuthi yini yona leyo I am confused
Kuvuka Omphi nha u Moya Mfundisi xa kwenziwa Thomoyi???
ukukhuleka ngethomoyi kuyawakhipha amadimoni impela kodwa disorder ay sekokunye mina ngimi kulelo..Ngiyabamba leye disorder
Praying ngeThomoyi ikhipha iDemon 🙄🤦🏽♂️😂... hay uyadlala wena
Kusho ukuthi Uma ikhipha ama demon I right..
In my church we do Thomoyi as kind of praise... but we know when to stop...
Elami lithi if You do Thomoyi ibese iba ungovernable ngokwami kusuke sekunomoya losuke sekagibele kulomdanso
Lool ey naze nangihlekisa weZinceku zeNkosi🤣🤣🤣🤣
zizwile Prophet
Like for real kuze kungabikho nezwi it's too much disorder
Uma nje abantu asebemukele uJesu njengeNkosi noMsindisi bengafundiswa
1. Ukuthi kusho ukuthini ukusindiswa
2. Who they are in Christ......
3. There will never be ithomoyi - whatever that is, ezinkonzweni
Amateachings emabandleni are very important, ayikho enye indlela yokukhula eNkosini
Uma nje ningakafundisi niyolokhu nakhuza ithomoyi
Mhlampe akuhlowe umoya behind it ngalesosikhathi ngoba angikholwa ukuthi bangenwe yilowomoya wobungoma.
Qaphelani bazalwane bangenile ngokunyelela .Iqiniso kodwa lithi ithomoyi mina ngayibona ngiqala ukusindiswa ishawa ogogo nomkhulu kuphulukiswe abagulayo kuklewule amadimoni yayingashawa nje for fun.
Meaning yetomoyi?
When besenza ithomoyi they don't pray at all and what happened to worship songs, some they don't even sing worship songs. I agree with the prophet let the gifts manifest if basemoyeni oyingcwele. What they say as well is out of order, why say things that you don't even know, why fake tongues as well. Yes ithomoyi inespirit umxhentso wayo doesn't make sure
As long engaka phakamisi izandla akashawe🤣🤣🤣 but on a serious note ake kwehliswe lento yethomoyi ebaBandleni bese kudliwe kakhulu Izwi leNkosi
Ithomoyi came to revive the church. After the covid 19 lockdowns,the church was so discouraged and defeated. But when ithomoyi came it revived and strengthened the remains. It also brought back those who got tired during those lockdowns. So u can say what u say about it.
The word of God is the one that revive us
Kwakunqatshiwe yini kodwa Nkosi yami a record(e) sibone lemhlola yabantu agide baze babulale amadrum😢ew wasiphuthelisa ngefilimu😅
Im late but ill coment... The bible says when the ark of the covanant was brought in the city of david, David danced until he was almost naked.. he was dancing in the presence of the Lord.. I am to believe that we have people doinf outings and dancing amatshwaleni and stuff, but theres then doing things in the presence of the Lord... In reality even though most eould choose to dissagree, in church we have been dancing, even as they dance outside.. but what makes us differ is that we doing it in His presence... Build and encourage those that rather stay and enjoy his presence rather than go outside and do bad.. ithomoyi is said to be a service or inkonzo where people dance in the presence....
but Prophet okunye kuvela ngaye uMoya Ongcwele akukho ekubhalweni.. ngoba uthi okungabhaliwe awukuthathi. what if kubuya kuMoya oyiNgcwele. angikhulumi ngethomoyi kodwa
Into iwrong uma isiphazamisa uma ingaphazamisi ndawo ayinankinga
It would have been better if you gave us a background of what is Thomoyi before asking if it is correct or wrong. Mina I don't know what you talking about honestly.
Had the same problem with this discussion. They should have shown a clip or explained first. But after checking on Tiktok it seems like it is a dance and certain keyboard sound...
this is very informative, but I think it's one sided.
Wase uyofunani ezangomeni
Sikhona Dlamini 😊😅
Akekho one link ye video ekwenziwa kuyo ithomoyi?
th-cam.com/video/Z9-slpJakgM/w-d-xo.html
on my side mina pastor siba Thomoyi into kaNkulunkulu but manje siyenziwa umdlalo mina ngisayenza uNkulunkulu wayekhuluma and enze izimangaliso during thomoyi and impela uyanqena kuMoya..but lokhu kokuthi akushunyayelwa ay it wrong it okay when we praying sikuMoya then for praise and worship
Kuningi oku wrong nge Christianity ubona behlukene kangaka nje baholwa imimoya eminingi ningasola Thomoyi ngoba ningayi Thandi AKWENZEKI NIKHONZE UMUNTU OYEDWA KODWA NIHLUKE NGEMIMOYA ENIHOLAYO AMAKRISTU ENZA IZINTO EZINGAFANI KODWA BAKHONZA UJESU BONKE SO MININGI IMIMOYA EKHOZWA AMAKRISTU
I think people are too opinionated to listen to the Holy Spirit. That is why Kuba nedifference.
I think iqiniso lithi sidukile but where is God's Army i think yiyo efike yasifundisa ukudansa okuright angeke sakulekela lokho ngekhathi zoNokulunga abo Pastor Linda lase ibandla liduka kuyindumiso nakuma chorus kwaqala kwangena usathane ke nabesibusisa obaba uBheshu badumisa ezangomeni manje ngenxa yemali buyani God's Army in your absence sekukhona ukweduka
Jesus
Waze walikhuluma iqiniso mfundisi. Ihluphile i thomoyi, filled with disorder kanti God is the God of order not disorder.. that thing is time consuming, mfundisi qinisile igcwele ukuphapha nobutabane
Thomayi Ka Satani
Ndicela ukungena ngecall
Uba izodlula ayizodluliswa ngumntu not nguwe Tata tuuuuuu
ITomoyi yihlathi elinzima okumelwe ligawulwe ebandleni.
I beg to differ with the pastor thina as worshiper's and MC's we pray and ask God to lead the service mina I'm deeply offended nina nihlupha ngokuthi nihamba ngenyama uthi umenyiwe uwubona uMoya oyiNgcwele unyakazisa abantu nge worship noma ngamachorus ufune ukuqhuba I protocol yokuthi umenyiwe ukuthi ushumayele dancing In a church kade yaqala as for izinsimbi kade zaqala in the bible kwakusetshenziswa amahabhu nezigubhu nensimbi ekhencezayo lezinamhlanje ezisetshenziswa izangoma manje ama keyboard it's just a new version yezigubhu zasebhayibhelini wena yalusa isolakho uhlukane nokubuka abadunusayo nabanamathanga amhlophe wena mfundisi thana ukhuza umdunuso ebandleni worship is about heals, uplifts, soothes the soul of a person when you see a person rolling on the floor when I hold the mic lowomhlabelelo unyakazise ibandla bekhale abakhalayo barole abarolayo akusiwo wonke umuntu osuke eholwa imimoya some of us we fast before we go to church and ask God to take charge and we allow God to change the situation ashintshe ukusindwa ngabantu bengena nemithwalo usindwe ungakwazi ukudumisa amachorus asuke eculelwa ukukhulula lomoya ofasile ebandleni nasisuke sigiya sigiyela uNkulunkulu eqaqe amaketanga abopha ibandla yingakho abanye begcine begqimuzeka yonke indawo basuke bengazenzi it's not I disorder vele manje miningi imimoya e operater emabandleni even nani bafundisi anilungile kumanje nceku ubukana namathanga amahle aphuphuzela uboya ufunani emathangeni nezinqa zabantu usenkonzweni noma uzuke uyo scouter izinqa namathanga aybo bazalwane izwe lonakele ikakhulu kazi emabandleni abafundisi bayagqaba bagqabela ibandla ngenxa yokuthi bafuna ukwenza ama miracles nceku wena thana ukhuza umoya wokungaziphathi kahle enkonzweni kubefundisi, worshipers, nebandla as a whole ngoba nobufebe sebubuningi emabandleni engikuvumayo enkulumeni yakho ukuthi sisukile kwivangeli lakuqala ngoba izwi lithathiwe lenziwa into yekufeza iinkanuko zabantu I don't do it ngizifaka kulenkulumo ngoba siyathula sikubona emabandleni kwenzeka singenzi lutho sivike ngokuthi sinikela konke kuNkulunkulu uye ozokwenza umsebenzi
Ake ihlaziwe le nonsense ngempela
Churches are boring and enziwa yini abefundisi.
Boring ngoba ufike uye enkonzweni ushunyayezwe, umvume uJesu.
Uphindele ufike ushunyayezwe, nakusasa, nangalelalanga
Makube namateaching sessions ngisasho
Sifike siphethe amapeni namabhuku sizobhala. Sibhale nakumabibles ethu.
Otherwise nizobelokhu nakhuza othomoyi
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If you feel church is boring then nandisa wena. Uhlaleleni phansi. Do as the Holy Spirit leads. Nguwe ophathiswe umbono onawo.
A LOT OF LIES IN THIS CONVESATION .... PROPHET AKATSANDZI ITHOMOYI NOT UKUTHI IWRONG
Agreed, It sounds like the guest is exaggerating. I am not convinced here. But then maybe he is right🤷🏽♂️
I am not here for the iThomoyi because nasebandleni engikulo ayenzeki. What I can say is there’s no need to be dragging other churches that you were previously part of in the name of rebuking thomoyi. You can do so without dragging indlela yokukhonza kwamanye amabandla ngoba lelobandla lisayibandla komunye omuntu cos nawe lake laba yibandla kuwe and you saw nothing about it. Amen
No! There is nothing wrong with drugging churches deeds, if his experience needs what he saw let him say it, for example bengingazi mina ukt how evil it is.
@@luckyphikela4506 agreed
Thats thomoyi nonsens