I like using heat proc against bosses that go invincible for some time like Lieutenant Lech Kril cause once he goes out of his invincibility phase, there's gonna be 150 heat proc by the time it happens
Oh same. A good +damage +status chance riven on something like the Phage gets absolutely hilarious when you mod it for viral and heat. Literally and figuratively just melt even Steel Path bosses, as long as they don't have some form of status resistance/immunity.
@@Fiendir dont forget phantasma too, everybody forgets these beam shotguns and worship ignis wraith. more power to us tho, we get the best rivens for an underrated overpowered weapon
@@aravinds3846 Love the Phantasma, to the point where I don't want too many being aware of it lol. It's honestly got a bit of an edge over the Phage imo because of the secondary fire, which you can get preeetty good at AOE clearing trash with, and then have the primary for single target.
Bro you don’t understand how much I Love how in depth you go into things and how clear and thorough you are Thanks for all the vids man,Hope you keep growing
Fun fact: Cold damage's slow effect also applies (Or used to apply) to animations too, including the Fire Panic animation. I found this out while leveling an Ignis Flamer with the Taxon as a companion equipped with an Ice Ray. Many enemies had a bad day once I figured that out.
Yes! What i love about this game. Is that one learns a lot of stuff by digging deeper! And the game never surprises me in some areas by how deep it goes! Especially damage calculations and picking the optimal setups for everything.
Weird thing about Blast is how one of the main targets for it, Infested Ancients (at least according to the in-game describtion) basically are entirely unbothered by the status effect.
it really feels like they knew blast needed to be changed but had absolutely no clue what to change it to, so they just rushed the first thing they thought of out the door. Absolutely awful damage type that badly needs to be remade again.
Finally a clear, concise explanation of the damage types and what to seek for what reason. Very refreshing amongst all the videos of people rambling about decimal numbers and how they affect each other for 5 minutes on each type when I just want to know what kind of mods to put together. Thanks alot for a great video!
funny thing is, despite it's damage not being great against infested, I absolutely love Radiation against infested. the ability to sever healers from the rest of the infested before you even realize they're around is massive.
That's a really good example of something which isn't a clear mathematical advantage, but becomes one mechanically when you play around it. Stripping the healer DR buff can end up giving you a higher DPS at the end of the day compared to a more optimal damage type.
and the confusion mechanic which with enough procs increases the damage 550% so the enemies fighting each other will have greater damage. Been using a makeshift workaround with the regular ignis, and it just shreds while giving temporary allies. Steel Path as well.
Needed this so fucking bad thank you, its so hard to return to the game and keep going from where I was without knowing all this. And now I have a video I can always refer back too with timestamps, amazing
I was randomly recommended this video. Your voice is amazing, you made it easy to understand what each damage does and when to use it, and based on some of the comments your other videos are just as good. You sir have earned a subscribe
I'm a vet player of over 5 years and since finding this channel have been steady watching your vids. Solid breakdowns My dual keres stat stick build with a decent riven for gara went from 12k damage on splinter storm per hit to 29k per hit at zero combo using your vids.
I recently got back into warframe and I was wondering why viral isn't the same as it used to be. Thank ye for the explanation. Cleared a lot of things up
11:19 "As these aspects all focus on Shields, Magnetic damage is roughly the worst combination choice possible against unshielded enemies. Accounting for 2/3rds of all units in the game" Yup. Sums up why I "hate" Magnetic Damage. Very situational. Admitedly, Viral's my favorite. Even pre-rework
As usual, your videos are clear, concise and I always learn something helpful from them. I'm sure you had to put a lot of effort and skill to make this, so thank you so much for doing that.
Definitely sending this to a few friends that keep asking me "how the hell do you even do damage to high level enemies from faction x" every now and then, despite my "just use slash + viral on melee and toxin + viral on a secondary" replies :D Something that still confuses me about Gas (even though it's a veeery niche/useless damage anyway, outside of Vauban/Zephyr meme builds) is how it can only proc up to 10 times. Yeah, it's stated in patch notes that the AOE maxes out at 10 procs, but what happens damage wise? Does any procs above 10 just... Do nothing? Gas just feels like it was left last on the element rework board and nobody had the time/effort to try and fix it lol
Gas status procs are pretty ass, additional procs after the first proc do not increase the damage of the procs - they only serve to increase the radius by which enemies are affected by the proc. Hence, this radius caps out at 10 procs of gas, while the damage of the enemies in the radius is still the damage of the first gas proc. I really feel like they could fix gas by allowing additional procs to also increase the damage of the procs. I hope they do something with it.
@@snidow2661 Late reply, I know. But I just returned to Warframe after a considerable time away from the game. I think I know why Gas damage/procs is in a bad state right now. In the past, Gas procs actually dealt toxin damage and scaled off of toxin mods. But because of this, that toxin damage could then proc the toxin status effect. Thus allowing gas builds designed around high toxin damage to "double dip" in terms of damage. This double dipping actually caused major problems because both the toxin damage from the Gas proc and the Toxin proc got their own scaling including taking advantage of things like faction mods or stealth multipliers. Because of this, I think when DE went and changed how status procs worked (Corrosive procs did not expire and you could completely strip armor off of enemies for example) they over reacted and over nerfed Gas damage to compensate for it being too strong in the past.
Thankyou for making my brain hurt! Only new to the game (MR5) but enjoying it. Still farming for the necessary mods but this guide will be a big help. Thankyou and subscribed :)
That was a great guide for all the damage types and what to use them against. I only recently started playing Warframe and was never really sure what element combinations to pick against which factions. (Also, there seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there.^^)
I'm sure you know this but for those who don't you can get physical damage from weapons without ips. For example, the amprex is electric but has fairly high crit so equipping 'hunter munitions' makes it proc slash. I didn't realize void damage reset the Stalker so that's cool.
Wow I've been playing for who knows how long and within the first minute you blew my mind 0:36. I had no idea you couldn't add physical damage if it wasn't initially part of the weapon
My favorite example of slash at work is with the zylok. My build on paper has pathetic damage per shot but the slash proc from a full mag will kill a lvl 140 corrupted bombard.
Summary for newer players when to mod which element 1. Never use impact or puncture mods, if possible get a riven with NEGATIVE impact or puncture, increasing all other element procchances, 2. Never use cold because it's not useful and has low boni, 3. Go pure toxin for corpus or radiation toxin for all corpus enemies. Bypasses shields 4. Heat has 2 different uses, either use it together with viral slash to armor strip(+good boni vs flesh)or as your main dps proc(requires heavy status e.g. beamweapons like phage easily netting 300heat procs) 5. Elec can be your main dps aswell (always couple slash,elec with viral , [heat aswell if you use it as main dps, toxin aswell but viral+toxin is not possible to mod only works on some niche weapons with innate viral or toxin] UNLESS you have horrible status e.g. not worth on sniper because you usually want to shoot an enemy once and not stack 10 viral procs) 6. Never use magnetic 7. Never use radiation( It has good boni for alloy armor but it's a really bad statusproc and not that great for other armortypes, well it's good for corpus but corpus die from everything, so I usually always advise AGAINST radiation, only reason to mod it would be for the Index/Eidolons) 8. Never use blast 9.Corrosive good armor type vs infested and grineer BUT gets worse than slash once armor rises e.g. corrosive strips armor yes but why shred armor if you can bypass it completely with slash. But atleast you don't have to roll a Yatze on hunter munitions 10. Once my favorite element in the game, completely destroyed by DE for no fking reason. Gas, never use it..( gotta hold back tears for this, won't ever forgive DE killing gas) 11.THE ALLFATHER VIRAL. Since we had our statuschanges every other element is obsolete compared to viral. It increases your dmg by 350% with full stacks and applies to every DoT aswell. also has good boni for every faction. Insanely broken with any primary that has decent crit because hunter munitions exist. you basically always want 1gun atleast that does viral in your loadout. As you noticed I didn't listen anything for infested. Infested are very rarely armored and die from basically anything. corrosive is good for ancients and heat for all other 1s. I personally run elec vs infested, because it is aoe and scales better if enemies are close together. Since infested swarm you elec is a match made in heaven
@@Devilcakes Viral + Heat is "meta" so to speak... it's a really powerfull combination.... too powerfull to be a thing but ey... we also don't like nerfs so here we go xD
@@knurspgaming1681 most unrolls cost you around 50p unless u want the meta-slut or new weapon. I just mentioned riven stats because that question pops up alot. that question is: isn't -punc -imp -slash actually like -dmg? and the answer is NO. removing those types is always beneficial since it lowers ur damage by a little but status is also calculated based on how much damage u have( for example with 400viral and 100slash u proc 4x as much viral than slash. balancing it to that perfect viral slash balance(more slash than viral dmg and nothing else if possible) (that also means that sometimes lower rank elemental mods are actually better, because having more than 10procs of viral is a waste, more procs of slash is not, so in an ideal case u always want ur slash dmg > viral, same for elec+viral heat+viral etc.) U see by having imp punc or slash on ur weapon u also proc it and it 'dilutes' ur status output, so taking away that bit of damage for alot better status effects is actually very worth it. Sadly there is no way besides riven to get -impact -puncture -slash as a mod. That said -slash is a grey area, it can be good but not always since slash is a pretty strong damage type already. impact and puncture are always worthless tho. funny end-note: The most expensive riven of mine is my strun with +dmg +multi +cc -impact I 'only' paid 15k but had up to 40k plat offers. I'd never sell tho, you wouldn't believe how insane that gun is now(turning it from completely impact into completely viral slash yea..).getting a perfect roll like this is almost impossible.just think about it when u roll something good with -imp -punc on a riven, it might be worth some thousands of plat. even if it only has 2+ and -imp -punc. thats usually super valuable since only rivens can give -imp -punc but u sacrifice a modslot for a riven so u usually want 2-3 good + stats aswell otherwise a regular mod might be just as strong
On the Fire section. A fire proc tick timer resets with every refresh (or re-proc). Meaning: The accumulated fire damage will never tick if a fire proc happens within a second of the last proc, because the timer resets. Fire procs are great, but if you're procing too many too soon. Then your not getting your "moneys" worth. So either use: Fast-fire weapons with low fire proc chance or burst-fire weapons with high fire proc chance.
Against Corrupted, and Grineer I usually use Viral and Slash. I know its really good against Grineer due to Viral increasing Health Damage, while slash bleeds. I'm not sure though what's better against Corrupted, Corrosive/Corrosive Slash, or Viral Slash. For Corpus, I'll just use Magnetic and slash, cause I feel like that makes the most sense BTW, The Video was REALLY well made! Keep up the good work!
If you are ever using slash against health, use viral. Corrosive reduces armour but does nothing to improve the slash proc, while viral obviously does enhance the slash. For low status weapons I'd say stick to Corrosive as it's a good all round damage type for corrupted enemies.
@@TheKengineer Thanks for the quick reply! Since I am mainly using the Reaper Prime and the Broken War, which both have good slash, and do well with Weeping wounds, I’ll just stick to Viral and Slash, and Smite Slash Builds. Thanks again!
Id love to see a more in depth explanation of the blast status effect and its procs. Some sort of graph or clip to show the accuracy decrease as I believe its the least understood and most underrated proc in the game. People hate blast but I put it on my Pox with a beastly riven and it gives enemies 10 blast procs instantly. I use it on limbo to protect me when I travel thru the rift plain and the 75% accuracy decrease is very noticeable
This is my 5th time or maybe 4th time coming back to this video and my god it rlly does help and the further I get in waframe the more ik and catch on each time I come back to this video 👌 Mhmm
so i got my kuva nukor from a fire lich, and i slapped viral in it, so now i have a monster that sets you on fire, strips your armor, confuses then, and weakens their health. all that and can chain multiple enemies and has a nasty dps. no wonder the kuva nukor is regarded as the best utility secondary.
Small update on the impact proc, it now stacks to increase the percentage of health needed to finish them, it is slightly more useful, but slash is still king. And there is a way to add physical damage to a weapon, however it's limited to only impact and only on kuva/tenet weapons so you have to kill a boss enemy to get it, but speaking from experience an impact tenet cycron is very fun.
magnetic is really good for taking out liches and sisters shields though. I only recommend running it on a secondary to strip its shields, then using your primary with their weakness. At least that's how I've been killing my liches fast and efficiently along with the oull mod to figure out the requiem mod combination in under 5 guesses. Besides that I don't recommend using magnetic for anything else. I mainly use Viral + heat or corrosive + heat/cold depending on the situation.
A note: Magnetic damage is insanely powerful in Corpus Railjack and Corpus Steel Path, since enemy shields are so much thicker. It might be easy to burn through a crewman's shields in base game activities, but in the high-end stuff, Magnetic damage will ANNIHILATE the ones you will have trouble with. Also: Electric, Magnetic, and Void can pop magnetic anomalies.
Magnetic is the shield version of Viral. However, Toxin is the shield version of Slash. Why deal more damage to shields, when you can just bypass them entirely? Put some Toxin and Faction mods on your weapons, and your basically running a meta Slash build when you are in a Corpus mission.
I loved using Blast elements on most of my weapons, impact, slash, puncture etc. However I don't like how little damage it does for higher tier enemies, especially when the effecr is reducinf the enemies accuracy(what?why?). It could be better as a crowd control and damage main element if the effect proc was an AOE timed delayed explosion, that strips armour off enemies in the area and more damage on flesh. I don't know how they decided on what element does what effect(mainly the combo elements) but it doenst give much freedom on what element you want to run in the higher tier levels, just use Viral and Slash with a high crit chance and damage...there you go. Wish the other elements can be more usable even in steel path, which I heard is HARD as HELL.
I mean, you can run Gas and Electric AOE weapons with a grouping ability on your frame, and then watch them kill each other. You could also run a Radiation and Cold build to make everyone completely not focused on you. (Best on Epitaph, since it can apply these super fast) Anything works in Warframe. You just need to fiddle with it until it does what you want it to. Even weak weapons like the MK1 set can become amazing if you try.
Actually he did mention it. But it doesn't actually disable them, it changes each things faction so they don't receive friendly buffs of any kind save their own self buffs (eg shield chargers quit working too)
I've head there are a fair amount of viral damage builds using vulpaphyla, especially the panzer type. They can infinitely respawn so you can ditch shield/armor/health mods and pack nothing but offense in there.
Honestly, i think they still more improvement on combine element damage - Blast = add guarantee small impact, + small Fire damage on status (not scalable nor stackable by mods by in enemy level), impact also has a chance to open finishers/mercy kill. - Corrosive = add guarantee small slash damage on status (not scalable nor stackable by mods but in enemy level) . - Viral = Defeated enemies has small chances on spawning nidus magget (lol) - Gas = Increase range to 10m, enemy inside gas will reduce accuracy and deal preferred damage on the enemy (deal 50% less damage except the infestation). - Magnetic = Chances of small puncture damage on unshielded enemies (not scalable nor stackable by mods but in enemy level), enough stacking, any enemies and allies weapons will homing onto affect target within a small range. - Radiation = Chances cause either grineer and infested to melt into a goo of radiation or explode dealing 30% of the stack damage you dealt +spreading radiation (no knockback), reduce accuracy and speed by 40% on machinery and enough stacking will cause it to temporary disable (when shield are down).
@@futavadumnezo it's highly flawed in a literal sense but it makes some weird, consistent sense in the game's internal logic in that proc damage is different from modded damage. though i agree that a game shouldn't require a language degree to decipher it.
I'm only a minute in so you might address this later but there is always a way to get primary weapons that only deal elemental damage to deal slash damage, and that's via hunter munitions.
Its funny because when you think about it, toxin bypasses shields, meaning that magnetic is completely useless when utilized by the player. But utilized against the player, it actually can dampen the power of a warframe with heavy reliance on abilities. Thankfully its not a very common damage type.
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So how would I mod my weapons if I wanted each of them on my loadout to be specific to taking out certain factions? Also fantastic video keep up the good work
you can have 3 presets for each weapon/frame, they keep as A, B and C above the modding section. you can rename them after what they're most efficient/used for.
As a vet with over 1200 hours I still go by the following:- Grineer:- Blast/Corrosive Corpus:- Gas/Magnetic Corrupted:- Rad/Viral Infested:- Heat And it mostly works, most of the time.
well Gas ONCE WAS good against corpus but it is no more since the status rework... now it's just trash... it still works for u probbably because u have enough dmg overall... and... blast? I don't even understand that part... and sry this might sound a bit offensive but plz don't call yourself a veteran with "only" 1200 hours xD maby if u have 2k-3k or more... but 1200... is... kinda cute (not that I'd be THAT much further xD)
Notably you can get physical damage on an otherwise-energy-based weapon through the Lich system, if you get am impact lich. Is this useful? I have no idea. Also it's not really modding, so The Kengineer's statement about not being able to mod physical damage on to energy weapons is true. Although you can get a mod that applies slash procs when you crit even if the weaon doesn't normally deal slash damage, that is a side thing.
Due to how bad impact is as a status, ild say this is a bad idea, especially considering you can get elements like Toxin and Heat on them. A boosted Viral kuva weapon is alot better than a Impact Viral weapon.
@@dogma32 I kinda wandered off from the warframs for a while, so I don't know the current meta, but my first choice for a kuva weapon would probably be radiation or magnetic, because elements that are already combined allow you to maximize the sheer number of status procs on your target. Then you poke them with a sharpened stick that's got a Condition Overload taped to it and all of their blood explodes.
Great video Kengineer! Wondering, does corrosive / heat strip fossilized armor too? Wondering because my corrosive kitgun (low damage, high status) doesn't do much against mid / high level deimos infested. Like once I've got all my galvanized stacks up... It will kill them... Eventually... But it certainly doesn't feel like it's stripping much armor.
Fossilized is a health type, not an armor. The armor you're coming up against on Deimos is Infested Sinew which is stripped by corrosive/heat. Check your modding and kitgun loadout to see if you've fully optimized the damage output.
awesome vid learned a lot of new stuff keep it up. however i would like to add 1 correction. specifically with the basic 4 elements (cold, heat, toxin, shock) in the video you said that you can add them to any weapon and that is not entirely true. similar to how you can not add physical damage to weapons that don't innately deal that type of physical damage, you cant add a BASIC element to a weapon that already has a different BASIC element on it. since the innate element is always considered the "last" element if you add anything else on it will either combine with the base element or another element leaving the innate element on its own. probably just an oversite and a very niche bit of knowledge. also loving the community on your videos im going down through the comments and i haven't seen a single flame war. (probably because no one wants to deal with all that armor strip lol)
Hi, thanks for the correction - unfortunately it's not true. You do have to go through additional steps but you can apply a basic element to a weapon with a different basic element. For example the Tenet Envoy has innate cold. To apply heat to the final damage, you would also need to use a cold mod with either toxin or electric before the heat. This would give viral or magnetic with heat. I cover more about elemental combinations in modding in my video specifically on how elements combine: th-cam.com/video/74LM3QPOkOw/w-d-xo.html
Ok so just want to double check this, because I am a dumb casual of this game. If using an elemental loadout per faction, that means generally toxin and viral are best for Corpus in a general sense?
the dmg system in WF is the best i've seen on any game and it is crushed and left souless by the dumb down enemy system , if there were actually smart or even tougher enemies that could take prio all dmg and weapon types would shine , but no , we just spam everything and everything dies with the same effort regardless of being a lancer or a heavy gunner
oh no... the god damn hunter mumu again... needs a BIG nerf yet can't be nerfed without a riot of half the comunity... DE really played themselfes with that mod... and I have a love/hate relationship with it...
the Void status proc needs a bit of quality of life improvements, I often find myself wanting to hit a headshot but the bubble won't let me, or using an aoe blast aimed somewhere else but getting staggered because that one butcher ran at me
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Lavos mains memorizing this shit rn
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Is maining Lavos socially acceptable yet? -a closeted Lavos main
Its kinda hard because people dont consider him a good warframe not because of power rather his fashion
490 hours of playtime yet every section of this video still taught me something new, who knew heat damage was so strong
2000+ hours here, still heard a few new things
me
i put heat on everything
Hence, the common modding is viral heat, it just shreds everything (other than a few enemy who are either immune to viral or just plain status)
I usually run heat as a substitute of slash.
My mate has +7000 hrs and didn’t know half of this, shows how good DE explains things haha
I like using heat proc against bosses that go invincible for some time like Lieutenant Lech Kril cause once he goes out of his invincibility phase, there's gonna be 150 heat proc by the time it happens
Oh same. A good +damage +status chance riven on something like the Phage gets absolutely hilarious when you mod it for viral and heat. Literally and figuratively just melt even Steel Path bosses, as long as they don't have some form of status resistance/immunity.
@@Fiendir dont forget phantasma too, everybody forgets these beam shotguns and worship ignis wraith. more power to us tho, we get the best rivens for an underrated overpowered weapon
@@aravinds3846 I feel this, the phage is a single target powerhouse
@@MagikarpMan it has the highest single target DPS so ofc. Best it is no one talks about it.
@@aravinds3846 Love the Phantasma, to the point where I don't want too many being aware of it lol. It's honestly got a bit of an edge over the Phage imo because of the secondary fire, which you can get preeetty good at AOE clearing trash with, and then have the primary for single target.
Bro you don’t understand how much I Love how in depth you go into things and how clear and thorough you are Thanks for all the vids man,Hope you keep growing
Beside umbral mods, Adaption also can grant the tau resistance to the warframes
Fun fact: Cold damage's slow effect also applies (Or used to apply) to animations too, including the Fire Panic animation. I found this out while leveling an Ignis Flamer with the Taxon as a companion equipped with an Ice Ray. Many enemies had a bad day once I figured that out.
Even tough im sure i know all of this. But am gonna watch just incase :)
That's the spirit! If you did know it all, kudos to you. I learned some stuff myself confirming all this!
Yes! What i love about this game. Is that one learns a lot of stuff by digging deeper! And the game never surprises me in some areas by how deep it goes! Especially damage calculations and picking the optimal setups for everything.
@@TheHungryMammoth got a question does upgrading a elemental mod make a combination mod such as magnetic stronger?
@@Joshg-23 the damage number will increase yes!
@@TheHungryMammoth thanks broo!
Weird thing about Blast is how one of the main targets for it, Infested Ancients (at least according to the in-game describtion) basically are entirely unbothered by the status effect.
it really feels like they knew blast needed to be changed but had absolutely no clue what to change it to, so they just rushed the first thing they thought of out the door. Absolutely awful damage type that badly needs to be remade again.
Best wf channel i've found in a while.
as a fairly new player (one week in) this was really helpful for deciding which elements i wanna try now for my new frames
Finally a clear, concise explanation of the damage types and what to seek for what reason. Very refreshing amongst all the videos of people rambling about decimal numbers and how they affect each other for 5 minutes on each type when I just want to know what kind of mods to put together. Thanks alot for a great video!
recently getting into warframe and thid channel is quite possibly one of the best channels I've ever seen very clear very indepth very cool
funny thing is, despite it's damage not being great against infested, I absolutely love Radiation against infested. the ability to sever healers from the rest of the infested before you even realize they're around is massive.
That's a really good example of something which isn't a clear mathematical advantage, but becomes one mechanically when you play around it. Stripping the healer DR buff can end up giving you a higher DPS at the end of the day compared to a more optimal damage type.
and the confusion mechanic which with enough procs increases the damage 550% so the enemies fighting each other will have greater damage. Been using a makeshift workaround with the regular ignis, and it just shreds while giving temporary allies. Steel Path as well.
Needed this so fucking bad thank you, its so hard to return to the game and keep going from where I was without knowing all this. And now I have a video I can always refer back too with timestamps, amazing
I was randomly recommended this video. Your voice is amazing, you made it easy to understand what each damage does and when to use it, and based on some of the comments your other videos are just as good. You sir have earned a subscribe
Clear, succinct, none of the usual TH-camr faffing about. Great videos!
I just found this channel, but for some reason, your format and guides have made this one of my favorite Warframe channels to watch.
I'm a vet player of over 5 years and since finding this channel have been steady watching your vids. Solid breakdowns
My dual keres stat stick build with a decent riven for gara went from 12k damage on splinter storm per hit to 29k per hit at zero combo using your vids.
Your Warframe videos are immensely helpful for new players coming from other mmo's. Thanks very much for putting this together.
I recently got back into warframe and I was wondering why viral isn't the same as it used to be. Thank ye for the explanation. Cleared a lot of things up
Interesting! I already know best combos for myself, and after this video I understand how the work
Thank you for this, explained really well and I have now more understanding of damage as a new player. Cheers
Perfect guide every Warframe player should watch at least once in their life! :)
This is great information and it's communicated in a great way
Great job! You deserve more attention man
11:19 "As these aspects all focus on Shields, Magnetic damage is roughly the worst combination choice possible against unshielded enemies. Accounting for 2/3rds of all units in the game"
Yup. Sums up why I "hate" Magnetic Damage. Very situational.
Admitedly, Viral's my favorite. Even pre-rework
As usual, your videos are clear, concise and I always learn something helpful from them.
I'm sure you had to put a lot of effort and skill to make this, so thank you so much for doing that.
I appreciate the effort in matching a frame to the damage type whenever possible. Was a nice touch
Definitely sending this to a few friends that keep asking me "how the hell do you even do damage to high level enemies from faction x" every now and then, despite my "just use slash + viral on melee and toxin + viral on a secondary" replies :D
Something that still confuses me about Gas (even though it's a veeery niche/useless damage anyway, outside of Vauban/Zephyr meme builds) is how it can only proc up to 10 times. Yeah, it's stated in patch notes that the AOE maxes out at 10 procs, but what happens damage wise? Does any procs above 10 just... Do nothing? Gas just feels like it was left last on the element rework board and nobody had the time/effort to try and fix it lol
Gas status procs are pretty ass, additional procs after the first proc do not increase the damage of the procs - they only serve to increase the radius by which enemies are affected by the proc. Hence, this radius caps out at 10 procs of gas, while the damage of the enemies in the radius is still the damage of the first gas proc.
I really feel like they could fix gas by allowing additional procs to also increase the damage of the procs. I hope they do something with it.
@@snidow2661 Late reply, I know. But I just returned to Warframe after a considerable time away from the game. I think I know why Gas damage/procs is in a bad state right now. In the past, Gas procs actually dealt toxin damage and scaled off of toxin mods. But because of this, that toxin damage could then proc the toxin status effect. Thus allowing gas builds designed around high toxin damage to "double dip" in terms of damage. This double dipping actually caused major problems because both the toxin damage from the Gas proc and the Toxin proc got their own scaling including taking advantage of things like faction mods or stealth multipliers.
Because of this, I think when DE went and changed how status procs worked (Corrosive procs did not expire and you could completely strip armor off of enemies for example) they over reacted and over nerfed Gas damage to compensate for it being too strong in the past.
Such a great video.
Detailed, easy to understand, and interesting. Thanks!
Thankyou for making my brain hurt! Only new to the game (MR5) but enjoying it. Still farming for the necessary mods but this guide will be a big help. Thankyou and subscribed :)
That was a great guide for all the damage types and what to use them against. I only recently started playing Warframe and was never really sure what element combinations to pick against which factions. (Also, there seems to be a lot of conflicting information out there.^^)
Watching this video, it helps me better understand how to better stat out weapons for optimal damage
Best video guide about warframe I've ever seen! Thank you!
I dont get any of this stuff with mods and your videos are really informative, well done
This video is extremely helpful. I even screenshot the HP modifiers in case I forget.
Ok....THIS was VERY useful...! Now I understand why some of my weapons and mod builds just do not work as well as expected.. Thank you so much
I'm sure you know this but for those who don't you can get physical damage from weapons without ips. For example, the amprex is electric but has fairly high crit so equipping 'hunter munitions' makes it proc slash. I didn't realize void damage reset the Stalker so that's cool.
Technically it doesn't add the damage type though, just the effect. You can't cut corpses for desecrate with munitions for example.
Wow I've been playing for who knows how long and within the first minute you blew my mind 0:36. I had no idea you couldn't add physical damage if it wasn't initially part of the weapon
My favorite example of slash at work is with the zylok. My build on paper has pathetic damage per shot but the slash proc from a full mag will kill a lvl 140 corrupted bombard.
Summary for newer players when to mod which element
1. Never use impact or puncture mods, if possible get a riven with NEGATIVE impact or puncture, increasing all other element procchances,
2. Never use cold because it's not useful and has low boni,
3. Go pure toxin for corpus or radiation toxin for all corpus enemies. Bypasses shields
4. Heat has 2 different uses, either use it together with viral slash to armor strip(+good boni vs flesh)or as your main dps proc(requires heavy status e.g. beamweapons like phage easily netting 300heat procs)
5. Elec can be your main dps aswell (always couple slash,elec with viral , [heat aswell if you use it as main dps, toxin aswell but viral+toxin is not possible to mod only works on some niche weapons with innate viral or toxin] UNLESS you have horrible status e.g. not worth on sniper because you usually want to shoot an enemy once and not stack 10 viral procs)
6. Never use magnetic
7. Never use radiation( It has good boni for alloy armor but it's a really bad statusproc and not that great for other armortypes, well it's good for corpus but corpus die from everything, so I usually always advise AGAINST radiation, only reason to mod it would be for the Index/Eidolons)
8. Never use blast
9.Corrosive good armor type vs infested and grineer BUT gets worse than slash once armor rises e.g. corrosive strips armor yes but why shred armor if you can bypass it completely with slash. But atleast you don't have to roll a Yatze on hunter munitions
10. Once my favorite element in the game, completely destroyed by DE for no fking reason. Gas, never use it..( gotta hold back tears for this, won't ever forgive DE killing gas)
11.THE ALLFATHER VIRAL. Since we had our statuschanges every other element is obsolete compared to viral. It increases your dmg by 350% with full stacks and applies to every DoT aswell. also has good boni for every faction. Insanely broken with any primary that has decent crit because hunter munitions exist. you basically always want 1gun atleast that does viral in your loadout.
As you noticed I didn't listen anything for infested. Infested are very rarely armored and die from basically anything. corrosive is good for ancients and heat for all other 1s. I personally run elec vs infested, because it is aoe and scales better if enemies are close together. Since infested swarm you elec is a match made in heaven
So... Viral is top priority, with Heat added?
@@Devilcakes Viral + Heat is "meta" so to speak... it's a really powerfull combination.... too powerfull to be a thing but ey... we also don't like nerfs so here we go xD
darkdestructer: "Summary for new players [...]"
also darkdestructer: "[...] if possible get a Riven with [...]"
xD yee uhm... sure LMAO
@@knurspgaming1681 most unrolls cost you around 50p unless u want the meta-slut or new weapon. I just mentioned riven stats because that question pops up alot. that question is: isn't -punc -imp -slash actually like -dmg? and the answer is NO.
removing those types is always beneficial since it lowers ur damage by a little but status is also calculated based on how much damage u have( for example with 400viral and 100slash u proc 4x as much viral than slash. balancing it to that perfect viral slash balance(more slash than viral dmg and nothing else if possible)
(that also means that sometimes lower rank elemental mods are actually better, because having more than 10procs of viral is a waste, more procs of slash is not, so in an ideal case u always want ur slash dmg > viral, same for elec+viral heat+viral etc.) U see by having imp punc or slash on ur weapon u also proc it and it 'dilutes' ur status output, so taking away that bit of damage for alot better status effects is actually very worth it.
Sadly there is no way besides riven to get -impact -puncture -slash as a mod. That said -slash is a grey area, it can be good but not always since slash is a pretty strong damage type already. impact and puncture are always worthless tho.
funny end-note: The most expensive riven of mine is my strun with +dmg +multi +cc -impact I 'only' paid 15k but had up to 40k plat offers. I'd never sell tho, you wouldn't believe how insane that gun is now(turning it from completely impact into completely viral slash yea..).getting a perfect roll like this is almost impossible.just think about it when u roll something good with -imp -punc on a riven, it might be worth some thousands of plat. even if it only has 2+ and -imp -punc. thats usually super valuable since only rivens can give -imp -punc but u sacrifice a modslot for a riven so u usually want 2-3 good + stats aswell otherwise a regular mod might be just as strong
If i choose between impact and magnetic which should i go? Just between these 2. Plz don't say viral is meta :3 i know that.
On the Fire section.
A fire proc tick timer resets with every refresh (or re-proc).
Meaning: The accumulated fire damage will never tick if a fire proc happens within a second of the last proc, because the timer resets.
Fire procs are great, but if you're procing too many too soon. Then your not getting your "moneys" worth.
So either use:
Fast-fire weapons with low fire proc chance or burst-fire weapons with high fire proc chance.
Thanks man very comprehensive
Against Corrupted, and Grineer I usually use Viral and Slash. I know its really good against Grineer due to Viral increasing Health Damage, while slash bleeds. I'm not sure though what's better against Corrupted, Corrosive/Corrosive Slash, or Viral Slash.
For Corpus, I'll just use Magnetic and slash, cause I feel like that makes the most sense
BTW, The Video was REALLY well made! Keep up the good work!
If you are ever using slash against health, use viral. Corrosive reduces armour but does nothing to improve the slash proc, while viral obviously does enhance the slash. For low status weapons I'd say stick to Corrosive as it's a good all round damage type for corrupted enemies.
@@TheKengineer Thanks for the quick reply! Since I am mainly using the Reaper Prime and the Broken War, which both have good slash, and do well with Weeping wounds, I’ll just stick to Viral and Slash, and Smite Slash Builds. Thanks again!
Id love to see a more in depth explanation of the blast status effect and its procs. Some sort of graph or clip to show the accuracy decrease as I believe its the least understood and most underrated proc in the game.
People hate blast but I put it on my Pox with a beastly riven and it gives enemies 10 blast procs instantly. I use it on limbo to protect me when I travel thru the rift plain and the 75% accuracy decrease is very noticeable
I really miss the old blast and gas effects. They may not have been the best at killing enemies, but they were the most fun to use.
Thank for the warning, this helps so much thank you.
Amazing analytical video as usual, altho, as a railjack vet, that closing railjack clip was... painful to watch
You intro really IS catchy as hell
That clip at 11:45 is absolutely insane
Ampherex, if it's the rifle I'm thinking of hunters munition with a high crit is a work around
Thats right. You can add slash to the amprex.
This is my 5th time or maybe 4th time coming back to this video and my god it rlly does help and the further I get in waframe the more ik and catch on each time I come back to this video 👌 Mhmm
so i got my kuva nukor from a fire lich, and i slapped viral in it, so now i have a monster that sets you on fire, strips your armor, confuses then, and weakens their health. all that and can chain multiple enemies and has a nasty dps. no wonder the kuva nukor is regarded as the best utility secondary.
New player here. Very helpful video and massive thanks for the warning.
Subscribed! Great content man
Small update on the impact proc, it now stacks to increase the percentage of health needed to finish them, it is slightly more useful, but slash is still king. And there is a way to add physical damage to a weapon, however it's limited to only impact and only on kuva/tenet weapons so you have to kill a boss enemy to get it, but speaking from experience an impact tenet cycron is very fun.
Correction it increases the threshold to mercy heavy units
magnetic is really good for taking out liches and sisters shields though. I only recommend running it on a secondary to strip its shields, then using your primary with their weakness. At least that's how I've been killing my liches fast and efficiently along with the oull mod to figure out the requiem mod combination in under 5 guesses. Besides that I don't recommend using magnetic for anything else. I mainly use Viral + heat or corrosive + heat/cold depending on the situation.
Would be nice to have a note about the ol' Railjack damage types, and also, can we now deal Tau thanks to Caliban?
Very informative!! good job
Adaptation can stack res for Tau dmg(at least you can see stacked adaptation with Tau mark while hunting tridolons)
A note: Magnetic damage is insanely powerful in Corpus Railjack and Corpus Steel Path, since enemy shields are so much thicker. It might be easy to burn through a crewman's shields in base game activities, but in the high-end stuff, Magnetic damage will ANNIHILATE the ones you will have trouble with.
Also: Electric, Magnetic, and Void can pop magnetic anomalies.
Magnetic is the shield version of Viral. However, Toxin is the shield version of Slash. Why deal more damage to shields, when you can just bypass them entirely? Put some Toxin and Faction mods on your weapons, and your basically running a meta Slash build when you are in a Corpus mission.
I loved using Blast elements on most of my weapons, impact, slash, puncture etc. However I don't like how little damage it does for higher tier enemies, especially when the effecr is reducinf the enemies accuracy(what?why?). It could be better as a crowd control and damage main element if the effect proc was an AOE timed delayed explosion, that strips armour off enemies in the area and more damage on flesh.
I don't know how they decided on what element does what effect(mainly the combo elements) but it doenst give much freedom on what element you want to run in the higher tier levels, just use Viral and Slash with a high crit chance and damage...there you go.
Wish the other elements can be more usable even in steel path, which I heard is HARD as HELL.
I mean, you can run Gas and Electric AOE weapons with a grouping ability on your frame, and then watch them kill each other. You could also run a Radiation and Cold build to make everyone completely not focused on you. (Best on Epitaph, since it can apply these super fast) Anything works in Warframe. You just need to fiddle with it until it does what you want it to. Even weak weapons like the MK1 set can become amazing if you try.
You forgot to mention that Radiation procs disable Ancients' buff auras so Radiation procs are very good against Infested when Ancients are present.
Actually he did mention it. But it doesn't actually disable them, it changes each things faction so they don't receive friendly buffs of any kind save their own self buffs (eg shield chargers quit working too)
Excellent video!
I've head there are a fair amount of viral damage builds using vulpaphyla, especially the panzer type. They can infinitely respawn so you can ditch shield/armor/health mods and pack nothing but offense in there.
What would be the effective damage type in Deimos?? Corrosive??
Corrosive is best there, yes.
Heat
Love this
Honestly, i think they still more improvement on combine element damage
- Blast = add guarantee small impact, + small Fire damage on status (not scalable nor stackable by mods by in enemy level), impact also has a chance to open finishers/mercy kill.
- Corrosive = add guarantee small slash damage on status (not scalable nor stackable by mods but in enemy level) .
- Viral = Defeated enemies has small chances on spawning nidus magget (lol)
- Gas = Increase range to 10m, enemy inside gas will reduce accuracy and deal preferred damage on the enemy (deal 50% less damage except the infestation).
- Magnetic = Chances of small puncture damage on unshielded enemies (not scalable nor stackable by mods but in enemy level), enough stacking, any enemies and allies weapons will homing onto affect target within a small range.
- Radiation = Chances cause either grineer and infested to melt into a goo of radiation or explode dealing 30% of the stack damage you dealt +spreading radiation (no knockback), reduce accuracy and speed by 40% on machinery and enough stacking will cause it to temporary disable (when shield are down).
Great video
So the only purpose of using a slash mod on a build, when building for slash status, is to change the proccing weight to result in more slash procs?
Absolutely. It won't make the proc better, just a higher proportion of procs will be slash (and buff the main hit itself of course).
But then the mods description is flawed because it says it increases the Slash damage. That should apply to the proc as well.
@@futavadumnezo it's highly flawed in a literal sense but it makes some weird, consistent sense in the game's internal logic in that proc damage is different from modded damage. though i agree that a game shouldn't require a language degree to decipher it.
@@futavadumnezo warframe hardly ever explains things properly, that's why this is my fav wf youtuber.
I'm only a minute in so you might address this later but there is always a way to get primary weapons that only deal elemental damage to deal slash damage, and that's via hunter munitions.
That is not completly true you can deal a slash proc but not deal slash damage
Its funny because when you think about it, toxin bypasses shields, meaning that magnetic is completely useless when utilized by the player. But utilized against the player, it actually can dampen the power of a warframe with heavy reliance on abilities. Thankfully its not a very common damage type.
Great video!
Just so you know, the subtitles are not set properly. They appear as one giant block of text in the first second and then disappear.
This is a TH-cam glitch. If you use auto-translated subtitles to English, TH-cam screws up. Instead use the video language English rather than auto-translated.
I *never* knew that flat slash damage increase mods didn't increase slash proc damage. Super great note.
So how would I mod my weapons if I wanted each of them on my loadout to be specific to taking out certain factions?
Also fantastic video keep up the good work
you can have 3 presets for each weapon/frame, they keep as A, B and C above the modding section. you can rename them after what they're most efficient/used for.
As a vet with over 1200 hours I still go by the following:-
Grineer:- Blast/Corrosive
Corpus:- Gas/Magnetic
Corrupted:- Rad/Viral
Infested:- Heat
And it mostly works, most of the time.
well Gas ONCE WAS good against corpus but it is no more since the status rework... now it's just trash... it still works for u probbably because u have enough dmg overall... and... blast? I don't even understand that part... and sry this might sound a bit offensive but plz don't call yourself a veteran with "only" 1200 hours xD maby if u have 2k-3k or more... but 1200... is... kinda cute (not that I'd be THAT much further xD)
This channel should be official by D.E
Thank you so much
Notably you can get physical damage on an otherwise-energy-based weapon through the Lich system, if you get am impact lich. Is this useful? I have no idea. Also it's not really modding, so The Kengineer's statement about not being able to mod physical damage on to energy weapons is true. Although you can get a mod that applies slash procs when you crit even if the weaon doesn't normally deal slash damage, that is a side thing.
Due to how bad impact is as a status, ild say this is a bad idea, especially considering you can get elements like Toxin and Heat on them. A boosted Viral kuva weapon is alot better than a Impact Viral weapon.
@@dogma32 I kinda wandered off from the warframs for a while, so I don't know the current meta, but my first choice for a kuva weapon would probably be radiation or magnetic, because elements that are already combined allow you to maximize the sheer number of status procs on your target. Then you poke them with a sharpened stick that's got a Condition Overload taped to it and all of their blood explodes.
@@lexslate2476 Sounds good to me.
One of my favorite weapons is my batacoor after I got a viral riven for it
Why does his voice remind me of Drusus (the Lavarian narrator)
Great video Kengineer!
Wondering, does corrosive / heat strip fossilized armor too? Wondering because my corrosive kitgun (low damage, high status) doesn't do much against mid / high level deimos infested. Like once I've got all my galvanized stacks up... It will kill them... Eventually... But it certainly doesn't feel like it's stripping much armor.
Fossilized is a health type, not an armor. The armor you're coming up against on Deimos is Infested Sinew which is stripped by corrosive/heat. Check your modding and kitgun loadout to see if you've fully optimized the damage output.
Is there a picture with all the factions damages usw? Quiet hard to remember and for an new player it would be amazing👍🏼
I have 1k hours and I still cant remember them xDD
If the grineer are annoying you just give them radiation poisoning
Impact should be reworked to be good against corpse
Thanku. Good vid.
awesome vid learned a lot of new stuff keep it up. however i would like to add 1 correction. specifically with the basic 4 elements (cold, heat, toxin, shock) in the video you said that you can add them to any weapon and that is not entirely true. similar to how you can not add physical damage to weapons that don't innately deal that type of physical damage, you cant add a BASIC element to a weapon that already has a different BASIC element on it. since the innate element is always considered the "last" element if you add anything else on it will either combine with the base element or another element leaving the innate element on its own. probably just an oversite and a very niche bit of knowledge. also loving the community on your videos im going down through the comments and i haven't seen a single flame war. (probably because no one wants to deal with all that armor strip lol)
Hi, thanks for the correction - unfortunately it's not true. You do have to go through additional steps but you can apply a basic element to a weapon with a different basic element. For example the Tenet Envoy has innate cold. To apply heat to the final damage, you would also need to use a cold mod with either toxin or electric before the heat. This would give viral or magnetic with heat. I cover more about elemental combinations in modding in my video specifically on how elements combine: th-cam.com/video/74LM3QPOkOw/w-d-xo.html
Ok so just want to double check this, because I am a dumb casual of this game. If using an elemental loadout per faction, that means generally toxin and viral are best for Corpus in a general sense?
Yes. Toxin bypasses shields, while viral proc doubles (or more) all damage done to health. Both very potent vs Corpus.
the dmg system in WF is the best i've seen on any game and it is crushed and left souless by the dumb down enemy system , if there were actually smart or even tougher enemies that could take prio all dmg and weapon types would shine , but no , we just spam everything and everything dies with the same effort regardless of being a lancer or a heavy gunner
at 15:00 is the the vermisplicer secondary kitgun? if yes is it as bad as people say it is?
19:35 pretty sure I got hit by a sentient and adaptation proc’d with the tau symbol
I've seen infested get a viral proc on cambion drift
What I want to know is how exactly the damage vulnerability debuff interacts with enemies, a specific example being sevagoths reap ability
Damage vulnerability is multiplicative with the main damage source and any calculations involved.
One mod that got you covered for slash: Hunter Munitions
oh no... the god damn hunter mumu again... needs a BIG nerf yet can't be nerfed without a riot of half the comunity... DE really played themselfes with that mod... and I have a love/hate relationship with it...
I think you can add ips to a crit based weapon with hunt ammunition it's not in the calculation but it's something 🤔
You can add a Slash status, yes. But this is not real slash damage, this is just a slash status.
Pls anyone tell me who's the left warframe in the thumbnail, the helmet looks awesome!
I am having such a hard time with corpus shields. Even when I mod for strictly Toxin, I still can't get through a steel path mission!
I’m probably one of the few players who unironically use Cold, Blast and Electricity on their primary, secondary and melee respectively.
the Void status proc needs a bit of quality of life improvements, I often find myself wanting to hit a headshot but the bubble won't let me, or using an aoe blast aimed somewhere else but getting staggered because that one butcher ran at me
Slash mods not buffing slash procs is a bit of a eye opener
Is there somewhere I can find charts for this and other videos of this type