Austin Rivers on Damian Lillard's trade request: ‘It’s bad for the league’ | NBA | SPEAK
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- Austin Rivers spoke on Damian Lillard's trade request out of Portland and explained it's bad for the NBA. Joy Taylor, Ric Bucher, LeSean McCoy, and T.J. Houshmandzadeh discuss if they like how Dame is handling the trade situation.
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Joy said it best, she "Renegotiate her contract" but she doesn't flat out abandon it. She should follow her own language. I'm fine if Dame renegotiated his contract or flat out ended it but to still get paid & still demand a single destination that's a freaking joke for any player yet 1 who has never won anything. Stop saying Dame is the greatest Blazer ever when they have won an NBA title have gone to Finals & lost something Dame wishes.
Y’all are missing Austin’s point though. He’s not saying Dame can’t ask for a trade. His issue is that Dame saying Miami or bust. When you’re a free agent, you get to flex your muscles and pick where you want but when you’re under contract, unfortunately your future aint in your hands anymore and when players decide to sit out or throw a fit (not saying Dame has) because they want to go to a specific team, then the league is in trouble.
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If dame wanted to go to your team I think you will be the first to defend dame decision 😂
How’s the league in trouble? There’s probably 10 players that can do what Dame is doing, everyone don’t have that kinda pull
I agree
Theres only 4 teams that are champs or bust in the next 2 seasons. Dame is 33 and will make 210 million over the next 4 years. A rebuilding team or fringe play off team is not going after Dame. Boston not trading for him. Portland could have traded him at the draft
Dame took drafting Scoot like Rodgers took the Jordan love drafting.
😂they ain't winning nothing with Scoot. The man is 33 he got maybe 5 yeah left of elite play
Dame should’ve requested a trade like 3 years ago, it shouldn’t have taken them drafting scoot. Everyone in the world knew he wasn’t winning in Portland, the fact he kept saying he wanted to win there was stupid.
As he should
Spot on
I think it's a different situation cause scoot was the only pick. Dame couldn't justify being mad at them picking a generational talent. Nobody ever thought love was a generational talent. That's the difference, but u might be right that he reacted similar to Rogers lol
He said trade requests when you say you will only go to one team is bad for the league cause only a small percentage of BBall players have that kind of pull. Everyone else just sucks it up and moves.
You know they didn’t listen to the whole conversation 😂
I think Jordan only wanted Washington.... 😂
It is bad for the league if a player only wanna go to one team and they respect other franchises.
😂😂 Joy proved Coach Greg Adams right about Women and Contracts 😂🤣
Lol facts somebody should have said to her let me withhold money from her contract and see how she feels I guarantee she would be bitching and complaining and want to take you to court saying you broke the contract
Women and smartphones too... ANNOYING shrill voice, like the nagging woman she is
What did he say
Keep thar same energy for the next guy that asks for a trade.
The media are hypocrites smh 🤦🏿♂️ if it was kyrie they would be destroying him it’s all about who they like
Probably because he's done it repeatedly, the comparison isn't anything close
@@brooklynblack9015I get what u mean but Kyrie didn’t show up for work bruh that’s not the same and I’m one who thinks Kyrie gets too much hate
@@brooklynblack9015the lamestream media love Dame so much he got top 75 smh. For what exactly?
Bad for the league is dame staying in portland
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Dame waited 2 years too late. I think basketball fans unanimously would have agreed even with CJ that Dame would never win a chip in Portland. So him doing the whole I'm loyal spiel only hurt himself. Imagine if Dame forced a trade to Miami two years earlier, portland gets a better package and Dame prolly goes to the finals with a chance at the chip. Instead we're a few years too late so Miami has nothing of substantial offer to give and portland is now willing to wait until the trade deadline.
they just didnt get a good deal for cj. i dont think miami had a better package 2 years ago unless it was Bam
@@TRILLTALKTVit was the hype of Robinson and Herro having more value then. They would had taken the deal then because they had potential we didn't know their ceiling.
@@blowc1612 they could have got them 2 for cj.
this is what i dont understand everyone and their momma wanted dame to request a trade for the last 5 years, and now that he's requested a trade people are complaining about HOW it's getting done or WHEN it happens like people are so delusional it's crazy.
Joy being smug about contracts was off-putting. She acted like breaking contracts came without consequences.
NBA contracts break all the time lol
@@hitsunataraki2587 no they dont
Did Shady at the end say to give D Jones a “hotdog and season tickets” as his pay? Lmao
ok. NOT SPEAKING OF DAME, but speaking of this show's argument let me give the contrary by using their own logic. Let's have Giannis on the same team with Steph Curry, Jokic, Jayson Tatum, and Fred Van Vleet. 🤣With Donovan Mitchell on the Bench. It's good for the NBA, isn't it? There's nothing to see here. Nothing to complain about. It's ok according to this show's logic. Dame does not fit this bc of his consistent plea and 10 year stint and effort without ever having a 1st Ballot Hall Of FAmer on his team
TJ back!!!!
Joy wants to run her mouth until she realizes Kareem delivered a championship to Milwaukee before he left
They also brought in the big o and other pieces for that to happen...you didn't mention that
Kareem was the best player of the 1970s. He’s a center though. He doesn’t bring the ball up the floor. If he did he would have won Milwaukee 2. He had a strong case for 1974 finals MVP. Havlicek hit some big shots too though. Game 6 is a classic.
Having an opinion="running her mouth"..... Pray you don't stay an incel forever
@@ladyduke7 she had a free mouth to run so she will run it. Never mind facts and empirical data of course.
Wilt also won a chip for the sixers too before he was traded to LA
Not good for business. Dame not going nowhere, cry about it Joy you beautiful woman
The last minute become good sports talk.
I agree with Austin Rivers..its the stars vs the other players..Dame and stars like him will get 25-35% of the salary cup and the other players will must play for a vet minimum check..I get him
Joy will have this demeanor until Dame gets traded to the Heat.
8:55 wow! my third eye is now open!
It’s bad for the league because of the max players asking for trades after getting big money.
Easy solution to salary cap ..... players making under 5mil (or 10mil) dont count towards the cap ...
There wont be a holdup and we wont have these stupid trades where a low level player has to move his family just because he had to be in trade to make the money work ..
Players don't have loyalty so as fans why should we
Bringing up doc rivers and resource doesn’t really matter in this topic. Attack his point, don’t try to discredit the man’s hard work, he’s a solid role player, plus had a good freshman year at duke cut it out
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It’s good to see the legend TJ.
I understood what Austin Rivers is saying he’s saying mid level players can’t get signed because of the superstar players who sign these 4-5 year deals then want to demand a trade out after 1 year of the new deal
Bro Damian Lillard has been there for 12 years you sound crazy not the same thing
@@gabestackson4476 So when Dame was a free agent in 2021, why did he sign a 4-5 year supermax deal with Portland?
@@leetraviusmckay2919 lmao how do you get mad at somebody who’s already full fill his first contract for multi millions and being there for 12 years then get mad when he signs a super max and wants to leave after you don’t properly build around him? You people don’t know how the basketball business works at all and please stop complaining about average players getting paid I guarantee you there’s enough money for them💯
@@leetraviusmckay2919I'm guessing he planned to stay there.. Are there alternate theories?
@@gabestackson4476Fax some of these dudes just chattin
I love joy she's hanging with those guys
Dame better get his choicr he spent 10 years with Portland. Every NBA fan literally should be messaging the Blazers GM and shoe him the All fans have Dames back because hes a pros pro
Dame deserves freedom
Free agency. I understand though he wants his money.
@2:18 she just exposed everybody.
I was about to say If JOY says the same thing and point again in a few different words…. Bruh
Teach them Joy.
Where was this Energy when Anthony Davis did the same? Or when James Harden does his typical shenanigans?
People really hate this bad since LeBron 😂😂
Shady said he’d give Daniel jones a hot dog and season tickets! 💀
This show is the Fox News of sports shows lol
No integrity in anything. This lady said honoring a contract is not that serious.
He did the same thing with the suns
Austin rivers meaning of it’s BAD . Is that Dame getting a ring same year
Shaq chased rings, repeatedly threatened to leave if not given things, still threatened to leave for money or asking for more, and linked with Penny, Kobe, Wade, a formed Suns team, LeBron, and a formed Celtics team.
But the stars can’t win without the other guys
They are ridiculous , they complete missed the most important part when Rivers mentioned that a trade request to 1 team was bad for the league. They not even debating the accurate quote
I’m completely fine with dame requesting a trade to the heat btw even as a Celtics fan he deserves to go and tbh shoulda did this awhile ago
Like Austin rivers is a player, why aren’t these idiots considering that he would be on the player side in terms of player movement and empowerment, for “professional analyst” they didn’t even read or listen to the whole thing before responding smh
What does his dad being in the league has to do with anything? Sounds like your bitter. He still had to work for lifestyle
I missed joy so much 😢
So it’s bad for the league. This media talk out of both sides of their neck!
Yea...Austin "Do U Know Who My Daddy Is" Reeves needs to calm down!!
Yes. If you don’t honor the contract, let’s rip it up. Adios muchacho
Austin and doc are bad for the league. Doc a good unsuccessful coach with a very subpar son playing still? 😅
Problem with the league.... Hand full of STARS.... Then the rest of the League SUCKS.... Draft. Maybe 2 legit... rest Bust... NBA has failed.
Look at Joy, always the voice of reason.
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Tipsy $till HIIT 🔥
Austin rivers was never good enough so he's a little salty.
Contract with the devil huh 😂
He mad his daddy got fired
austin rivers...lol
Austin Rivers 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
My boy TJ! Haven't seen him since Whitlock speak for yourself!
"It's a contract, it's just like a divorce! People do it all the time." Women like her are everything that's wrong with society these days.
Who is that
He's been hurt last two years and he was averaging 32 ppg tho far from slowing down
Joy talking like contracts are not legally binding, I'd like to see her boss not pay her and see how fast she brings up her contract.
Yup. But women aren't held to the same accountability standards men are, so Joy doesn't know any better.
@@S2pidMediafacts. This is why women should not be encroaching men’s spaces. All it does is bring confusion. Look at her chest lol, confusion lol.
Don't listen to women about anything
Never heard the saying contracts are made to be broken
@@kevinward6141 lol you and her try that and see what happens
Using marriage is a really bad analogy because that’s supposed to be in till death do us part and you can argue. It should be a blood contract because it’s for kids and family and staying together until you die not very honorable or good in any way to leave a marriage, where, as a contract being wrapped up in any other sort of walk of life she’s right it’s not that serious, but marriage basically should be a blood oath 😂😂
Problem is players want to take up 25% of the salary cap, then expects the team to bring other stars and fill out the roster. You can't have it both ways.
There superstars of course that’s going to happen and the right teams who is smart with there money is going to find ways to make it work💯
Ding ding ding. Most these players aren't very smart.
BIG FACTS
Yep. Guys wanna tie up all the money (especially on small market teams) then complain that they want to win. It doesn't work that way, for the most part.
Then if they turn down the offer folks will say they're stupid for it and should've gotten the money. So what's the solution other than getting traded while on "contract" and told "it's business"
I love how she tries to completely bypass and she state “contracts don’t mean anything”, the contract is the main issue! Walk into court and tell a judge “contracts don’t mean anything” and let me know how that works out for you....and then on top of that he thinks he can tell them WHERE he wants to go
I kinda have to agree with you. This girl is so biased towards her team.
Her point was that contracts aren't the binding handcuffs they appear to be. If the team wanted to tear up the contract, they can people don't complain then.
@@curtishancock432 you can’t legally just rip up a contract.
@@carlsagan2607 Any team literally can. They have waive clauses
@@carlsagan2607a piece of paper... Does not rule a loaded gun
How Joy makes it sound what’s the point of having contacts. Might as well go year to year OR better yet month to month. Since contacts don’t mean anything according to Joy
Austin rivers forgot his dad the only reason he stayed in the league that long
BIGGGG FAXXXXX
Big Baby will remind him.
Right. Austin has put up several 40 pt games in his career. His dad gave him genes and taught
him the fundamentals..He had to do the rest..
These dudes probably don't even get on the court.
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@@timobrien6600 falseeee he put up 41 ONCE in his life lmfao. Get off his meat stick. Even nba players call him trash
If only he didn’t sign the max deal and hit the market letting Miami know he was coming he would have played in Miami this past season and maybe would have beat Denver
Huh
Austin Rivers a couple weeks ago was talking about how Dame should ask out 😂🤣
His issue was not Dame should not ask for out; his issue was Same should not only request to be traded to Miami ONLY
@@sandworld1432Exactly. How is this so hard to understand? They all acting dumb up there. Like they dont don't know what he meant. I understand the fools in the comments because they may not know how pro sports works but these idiots get a whole check to be stupid. Smh
Picking the team is the problem. That's the whole point. It's not hard to understand Austin's issue.....in fact he is 100% right.
@@SuperMassarawhy?
@@curtishancock432 you are saying Portland has to send Dame to Miami regardless what Miami offers?
Generally, what is bad for the game is when people are drafted or signed or playing because of who their father is.
Joy is only saying this because dame wants to play on her team. Lets see if jimmy wanted to walk and see how cool or "aint that serious" it would be then.😂😂
TELL EM - hoes.
For the record, Dame’s a grown man. He signed his supermax extension happily and didn’t put a “No trade clause” in it.
Portland has paid him a quarter of a million dollars to play there. The team also gave him power as to when they’d leave from the city they were playing in, consulted with him regarding personnel moves before making them… they gave Dame a TON of respect.
“Where he goes” isn’t as big a deal as to “only Miami, because that’s where Dame wants to be traded to.”
Are you really serious that it’s not a “good move for the NBA if PDX doesn’t trade him to Miami?
What if it’s Boston? What about Brooklyn? Do you think the “exposure in those two cites” are worse than Miami?
Celtics v Lakers with Dame a Celtic would be MUST SEE TV and GREAT for the NBA.
I think what upsets Portland fans like myself, is this player entitlement mentality. I’m sick of it. This is a business and I follow the Blazers. I want them to get the best assets that they can and trade for the third best player they ever had.
Dame has a real shot to win a ring and Portland gets much better compensation than Miami can offer. Portland will never get equal value… But they should get better value than Miami’s offering.
Even if it’s held up until the trade deadline in February, Portland will get much better compensation when teams field. They are one player away from winning at all. Just like Brooklyn did with KD. That worked pretty well for them didn’t it? Portland… take your time here. You don’t owe Miami anything. I think you owe Dame a trade to a contender. That should be good enough and better compensation.
ARE THESE PEOPLE DOWNPLAYING CONTRACTS? CONTRACTS ARE THAT SERIOUS! THEY'RE LEGAL DOCUMENTS. WHEN YOU SIGN YOU'RE AGREEING TO PERFORM OR RENDER A SERVICE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN EXCHANGE FOR CASH OR WHATEVER YOU AGREED TO. YOU CAN'T JUST BREAK IT WHENEVER YOU WANT.
Yea I hate that talk
Exactly they don’t understand Dame signed that supermax deal when he was a free agent in 2021
But why do they trade their players under contract???
Breaking the contract would mean walking away from it, requesting a trade means you'll still be operating under the same contract., let's keep it accurate
@@Wilcoranking mikal briges is under contract with the phx suns, but he was traded without his consent, dame is asking for a permission.. nba is about protecting nba owners, they dont care about players career. This is the reason tatum, luka and giannis will demand a non trade clause
Can not stand Joy… Portland should do what’s best for them. If he really wants to win, give them more than one team he wants to go to
Exactly
It's good for the player....Not for the owner. Funny how the hockey players and baseball players aren't going thru this. Predominantly wyt. But football and basketball Predominantly black go thru this bull
AR is talking about the principal, min contract players and supermax players should be treated equally..why min contract players cant demand a trade, and why supermax players like Dame in this instance demands a trade to ONLY 1 TEAM... His point is everyone is equal once they sign the contract, and its ultimately up to the team what to do with the contract. Supermax players are well compensated for what they provide, but they cannot be above the rest in turms of treatment
It’s not bad for the league because only a very few amount of players in today’s NBA have stayed with their losing team for 11 years and are finally requesting a trade.
She has no idea what she’s talking about. Players have said I want out of the team but they weren’t like oh I’m not going where you send me. There was no I need to go here or there. Smh where’s max Keller man 🤣
If I'm Portland, I would void his contract and move on( out of respect for him and let go where he wants to) but if he wants to keep his money I have to get the best deal I can get.. that would be my offer to him.
Exactly. If you say contract don't matter. Okay, void the contract, you can get paid 60 mil/year by signing a new contract in Miami.
That would be worse for us
News Flash!!!! lol if Portland trade him they don’t to pay him that money. so, why they care about how much he’s getting pay from another team? Or is it because y’all on some bitter chitt
You gotta get something for dame
Simple as that.. because he ain’t getting 60 million if that happens
Austin rivers was talking about mid-level guys signing for vet minimum. Smh
Vet minimum contract are typically 1 yr or 2 with a player option. So it’s not like they’re handcuffing themselves to a team just for the sake of star player. Plus they usually sign those contracts because there value in the league is low anyways. So why not try to get a Chip in that yr or 2
Players sign contracts and play poor me when the team doesn’t bend the knee and trade them. You made your own bed Lillard time to sleep in it.
Joy is abismal on this show and her takes
"But she fine tho"
💯💯💯 u ain’t lying man
Best trade option for Dame would be the sixers. Maxey and Tobias.
She talking about blood oaths a little to specifically. I guess she signed a blood oath 🤔
Dame listened to everyone saying he wanted to get traded and now he's getting criticism.
Damian Lillerd trade teams 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
Literally missed his whole point. Unbelievable!
I hate to say it but I think I like this show better with joy as the mediator/spokes person rather than acho .Maybe even if she took a Kevin Wildes type of roll would be nice
bro u cant possibly mean that lol
The point is going over all of their heads lol
"Bad for the league" says the clown who only got minutes cus of his dad lol
Just like lebron’s kid once he gets draft 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏻♂️
Be nice 😮
I think they’re missing what Austin is saying. He’s saying it’s bad that he’s requesting only a trade to MIA and rumors that he won’t report to other teams and etc.
Ho3$ ain't loyal. Smh
What's funny is these comments how many people have had a job but was searchings for a better paying job or left a job to go to another cause it was closer to where u stay an I don't wanna hear...look how much they making they can't help that there in the NBA an we in the comments
Yup😎
Honestly it really doesn’t matter if he wins a ring he’ll go to the hall of fame regardless and will be respected amongst his peers he ain’t a pantheon great a ring does nothing for him try your best and live with the result look at Allen iverson respected great no ring
It matters
Damian Lillard signed that supermax deal knowing the Blazers wouldn’t build around him that’s his fault
You don’t even know what went down and what was said behind the scenes How can you make that statement?
Lol wtf
Exactly
@@gabestackson4476bro everyone knew he wasn’t gonna win a championship in Portland. Let’s not act like people actually believed Portland was gonna build a good team around him.
@@zuggyzuggy lol We Could of said the same thing about the Sacramento Kings and the Cleveland cavaliers but they finally are getting some real talent and heading in the right direction you never know🤷♂️ even the knicks got way better once they got Jalen brunson after years of disappointment💯
Joy sounds insane
I hope The Portland GM doesn't cave in
Joy is just a sight for sore eyes😍
There should only be 1 year contracts so the players play their best and no more trade demands after signing a huge long contract.
Consider this the love Joy button-->>
igy bro lmaoo
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