I respect Corbyn as a man but he was the worst thing to happen to the Labour party and British politics in my lifetime. He was a disaster of a leader and would have made an awful PM. We need people like him in politics but at the top? No chance.
Corbyn was an odd one for me. I'm so used to politicians saying stuff I disagree with completely, but then Corbyn was saying stuff I was supporting; I had to check myself and make sure it wasn't me falling for some trap. Poor Corbyn, we were so close to the UK actually starting to sort itself out. Labour had my vote then, but now they've lost it completely.
That’s absurd. I was purged from the party for praising a Green Party policy. I appealed and got back in eventually but it was messy (and before they relented, they basically told me that praising the Greens on Twitter was akin to being a traitor). I left (voluntarily) under Starmer
Is emma8357 also your Twitter handle? I feel I need source proof of your claims before following blindly like the 54 bots(cough) sry, friends, in approving your comment.
If he's not let in Labour again, he could join the Greens... but as it stands a genuine social democratic party could overtake Labour in 2 terms, the problem is that there would b tories in government for 2 terms
@@Hecatonicosachoron "A real social democratic party could overtake Labour in two terms". 😂😂😂 That's the kind of silliness you get from living in leftoid echo chambers. If the Left had that kind of voter support then they'd still be in control of the Labour Party. The fact that they've been purged with almost no notice outside a couple of TH-cam channels says something.
It is. He was always on the left of the party and you can't say there isn't a lot of space between Tories and Socialist Workers, space for keeping things civilised and not being revolutionary, but promoting better welfare and being public-spirited. I think it's a winner!
They run it - even when Corbyn was leader he didn't have full control of the party (and didn't want it). He believed strongly in the democratic process of the party, rather than strengthening his position by replacing people with allies, and they used that against him
Not to mention the fraud! Can you imagine an ad agency running Facebook ads that only targeted their clients, to create the false impression they were doing their jobs, when in reality they just took the £10k budget and bought cocaine? What would happen when the fraud was discovered? I would think there'd be consequences. But not in Labour. Membership probably paid the fraudsters damages
If you think about it just because the majority of people want something that doesn't make it the right thing to do. Democracy is basically mob rule. The majority can deny the rights to a minority simply on the basis of a majority vote.
For such a long established and wealthy nation with (apparently) robust social and electoral systems the UK has a very large democratic deficit and it is getting bigger. Without fixing this we will never have transformative change. What happened to Jeremy Corbyn was perhaps inevitable, no one was going to be permitted to lead a govt committed to bringing about such change. That he was done in by his own party, however, is truly disgusting.
Well said! The msm establishment and sectors of so called Labour could not allow a socialist leader back in that provided for all the people in fairness and justice!
Yes. Corbyn believed in the idea of the Labour Party as a mutually tolerant broad church where, having expected the Left's support for the past 7 decades, it was now the Right's turn to reciprocate by giving their support to a Centre Left leaning leadership. The problem was that the "Broad Church" was always a lie. The Left were there to trudge the streets at election time and persuade other leftists to "hold their nose and vote labour" as the least worst option. When they gained power and started formulating policy that was game over. They had to go. Next election will be crunch time. I wonder how many of us will have the good sense to take off the nose peg and vote against what is now an unapologetically alternative Tory Party.
I don't know which WhatsApp group it came from, but my personal favourite quote after the election was "The people have spoken, and we're just gonna have to suck it up... Bastards"
It used to make a difference! People fought and died just to have a vote. They've been streamlining our choices for SO long, it's hard to not feel this way. We used to be told about 'the three main parties', then it became a 'two-party race' and now we're being told that the only way our vote matters is to vote for Labour because they're 'marginally better'. Don't be fooled into giving up. There are plenty of other parties we could've been voting for this whole time. We have to begin to actually EXERCISE our right to vote and our freedom of choice so that this narrative can finally break down. To give up our vote is to lose all hope that we're free.@@garydixon4290
To think if corbyn was prime minister, how different this country would be, and he certainly wouldn't stand by and watch the Palestinian people suffer, 😢 He was the best prime minister we never had 😢, God help this country
And I thought stories such as House of Cards and the political theme to Our Friends in the North were just fiction!? Closer to the truth than one would ever give credit for!😢
It's a Lose Lose situation for Working Class Britain now. The Right Wing Labour Movement Leadership are in opposition to the Extreme Right Wing Tory Party. Scotland and Wales should be thinking strongly about their future in this one-sided Union.
It's everywhere the same, no difference in the US and the EU. It's called neoliberalism. which is basically co-opting all major centre parties, and sideline the sol-called "extreme" lef and right, to implement policies that create wealth for the already rich and maintain that status quo. Whoever gets close to a position in power is vetted long before you can vote on them.
@@PropagandasaurusRex And if push comes to shove, the far right is much more compatible with those rich folk staying powerful than the left is. So when people start demanding change they get in bed with the far right to keep power. Glances at the Tories and the Republicans across the pond.
A Labour friend of mine says you should stay in the party because you can't influence it if you leave (I left after Corbyn was stabbed in the back). This reporting suggests we've got zero chance of influencing it. We'll be given thin gruel and we're supposed to be grateful.
The best way to influence the Labour Party is to copy farage. Unions leave and form a new party. Starmer’s Labour will be done inside 2 years, unless they in turn replace the tories as the elite right wing party.
@@ericpmoss Nobody thinks Starmer is good. He's just about marginally better than the Cons and that might win him an election but how he keeps power, if he has no money to spend (as he keeps saying) will be interesting.
Well, it's back to "New" Labour again and after Starmer tries to avoid saying anything until election time, we will likely find another "globalist" that cares more about money than people.
@@alfsmith4936”If he has no money to spend” If you believe that lie, go join the tories Alf. The country has had enough of austerity and starmer isn’t proposing austerity.
@@ecaeas4439 I don't believe that lie but the very fact he's saying it (and lying) makes me think his idea of less austerity is keeping things the way they are now, whilst blaming the last Conservative government, which won't win him a second term. I prefer Raynor.. Can the party 'do a Corbyn' on Starmer and get her in charge please?
Only as the result of an ongoing narrative that our political system is a 'two-party race'. If the main two parties don't represent you, find the one that does and vote for that, because our political system is NOT a 'two-party' race, and you have the freedom choice. The moment we willingly give up our vote, is the moment we lose more than just an election - we lose our voice, our freedom to choose, and our hope (which is the worst of all).
Don't give up hope... Choose a party that you agree with (whether it's one of the main two or not) and vote for them. You will still be exercising your right to vote, you won't be giving up your voice, and you never know... our political system allows for more freedom in our choices than just the main two that are thrown at us. We don't have to accept the 'two-party race' narrative our media's been forcing on us for so long! @ryandavies4197
Public control of commodities was such an extreme idea back then and its quite clearly what we need right now. Ive never seen a politician predict the future as well as Corbyn.
It wasn't even extreme, Corbyn's policies were fairly tame and had widespread support (especially if the polling didn't associate them with him or Labour specifically). He had a fairly modest agenda for steering the country in a different direction and even that was too much to be allowed
@cactustactics yeah they did a job on him. Just looking at the media's widespread support of Israel atm and I think he didn't stand a chance realistically.
You had it with the post office and bt and it was a disaster You have it with TfL and that’s a disaster. Billions in subsidies and multiple bailouts. One of the causes of austerity
@@cactustactics A few of those extreme ideas are done elsewhere in the world too, successfully. Scotland, for example… Corbyn was the best you had tbh, and people were stupid enough to be convinced from helping themselves
Mostly run of the mill social democratic policies... the ones that were novel is putting employee representation in the administration of private companies, and giving them the right to buy the company if it were to be sold or went under. Nevertheless, it was the best government the UK never had. Could have averted many covid deaths and prevented fuel poverty we have now.
Blaming the west for Russia's unprovoked invasion and refusing to condemn a terrorist attack on children is having integrity? You must have the same definition of integrity as Sunak does.
@@matthewcunningham5069 Russia had 6000 nukes, you can have that *OR* be a whimp. not both, Corbyn's political takes begin and end at "West do bad" and nothing more.
No room. We need to build some more private 'for profit' prisons fast, before the public realise they don't need to pay for shopping/fuel, or how easy it would be to overthrow the government by making the streets of every town and city seem like Brixton in the 1980s.
Labour will never get my vote again. Simple as that. There is no party that represents my views so why would I vote for anyone just because they are a lesser of two evils. You vote in that way, than you give credence to the system as it is and the system does not work.
Until you’ve come up with a way to change the system, being apathetic helps the current governing party more than anyone else by not providing the inertia to shift them out of power which is what it takes. So well done.
@@AtheistEve I have my reservations about them.. but.. I'm more likely to vote greens than Labour. At least their green policies are in vastly more the right direction than labour.
Its just sad he would of actually done something to help the people of this nation instead we got Boris and Starmer. But hey the people mean nothing they are just for cheap labour its big business and the share holders that really matter in our country these days. I've not voted since just not one worth the vote in my area and voting Labour in with Starmer i might as well vote for the Con...
What happened to Corbyn was disgusting. It's like what happened to Al Gore in the US; everything bad that followed would have been different, if only because he wouldn't have made some of the same ridiculous decisions.
It's because he couldn't be bought! His honesty terrified the political class! The majority of them are just self-serving, with their snout in the trough!
It’s simple enough to understand. His part of the political spectrum is anti-capitalist and represents the working class rather than the capitalist elite. Add to that he was the first main party leader in 50 years to not be on board with what the isreali government are doing. In a Liberal democracy, the soft right Liftist Liberal faction of the elite control the left. That’s what the Labour right are. Agents of capital. Their common class interests align with the more right wing Conservative and Liberal factions of the elite. The only difference is the Leftist Liberals belief in some state intervention as opposed to none, so the working class keep their heads above water and the capitalist system doesn’t collapse.
Having the gall and hypocrisy to take a wage while actively working against your employer? That's theft, pure and simple. Or impure and devious. I've seen people sacked for petty pilfering, and have to scrape a living because they couldn't get benefits. And those slimeballs leave and return as if they're heroes.? I won't vote Labour again.
I used to be a member of the labour party and left about 4 years ago. I liked Jeremy Corbyn but unfortunately Labour as a party were not going to support him and the infighting just meant we lost yet another election. I have to say I was just as mad Corbyn for not stepping down sooner once it was clear he would have no hope in winning because I thought his pride shouldn't come before the party. But Kier fucking Starmer? Labour is no longer the party I supported and i will never vote for tories.
I went to school with one of the Labour shadow ministers. He had the I.Q.of an inbred gerbil. Frequent brushes with the law as a juvenile - from petty theft to arson. Got swept into the party between the wins of the '90s and '00s. Smiled and said/did what he was told to really well. He's now helping shape Labour policy...
I'm in Scotland and Scottish Labour should also be looked at for involvement in losing Scottish Labour further 13 seats on purpose, I'm ex Labour 30 years and vote for the snp. Even we didn't understand scot Labour tactically voting sco torys over kezia Dugdale until it was leaked her and IAN Murray were encouraging Labour folk to vote torys they hated corbyn seen him as a risk to the union.
We will never get a prime minister that the corporations haven’t signed off on. Also I think JC was wrong to not back Brexit, lost a lot of Labour heartland with that.
@@Marvhead you are right but it wasn’t a comment on whether Brexit was a good idea or not. Just that a lot of Labour supporters especially in the north believed Brexit was a good thing at the time. Corbyn lost a lot of votes to Boris pro Brexit stance. The vote had happened and people at the time expected it to be respected, even if they since regret it.
If he had backed brexit he'd be just like the other morally bankrupt MP's. He fought for what he thought was best for people, even when our hoodwinked population had been convinced otherwise.
Yeah pulled the same trick as they did on Dr David Kelly, Robert Maxwell and good old jeffrey Epstein ..I bet Ghislaine sleeps every night with one eye wide open..just incase the guards disappear for coffee and the cctv suffers a temporary glitch..
@@adriftinaboat3452 In some ways he was different. But what's more important, and what led to him being ousted, is that he is not part of the neoliberal clique, nor wanted to become part of it. As prime minister he could have done some serious damage to the system, and that made him "dangerous". Much like they perceive Trump now in the US.
We all need to get behind Mr Corbyn and help him support Ham Ass, they are his friends, and any friend of Jeremy Corbyn is a friend of ours and novara media 👍🏼
That is not only fraud but that's government fraud and that should be illegal and he should be pressed charges against and find all the way down to his almost last penny
THIS is why I can't vote Lab again. I HATE the Cons - their actions over their time in gov speak for themselves.... That said, even with the Tories' shitty performance, it's not nearly enough to make me vote for these back-stabbing careerists.
I followed British politics through Swiss state-run media. I had been campaigning for Windyday Concept, teaching students renewable jobs & uses of hemp & bamboo, and converting factories to making the building blocks for a real GND. Jeremy Corbyn listened and talked about it for one day. And was so viciously attacked he backed down. No one had his back. Swiss are the home to the petrochemical industry and it's financial goons. They never mentioned JC without saying he was AS and couldn't govern. I'm sure that Mockingbird Media is run out of Swiss media companies since they can translate into any language you want to gaslight people. I'm trying to lead a protest at EPAC in Bulle, since they had accepted a course in 2018 to do WDC. But it was blocked 2 days later by Big Oil. And they refuse to unblock it. There are zero climate groups supporting it. They'd rather do Roadkill and Superglue protests. I'm sure they've ben co-opted.
When back in the 80's trying to get Dave Nellist Terry Fields &Pat Wall at the time part of Militant we came to the conclusion we had organise the election campaigns on our own.Because the party officialidom would sabotage it!
I dont identify with the labor left. But it should leave the Labor Party! Show Starmer that all his meddling an d plotting led to naught! The labor left is being taken for granted!
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I have the most respect for Corbyn and he's better than the party he's served
Agreed. He possesses such integrity that it took a joint effort between the media and the party to 'take him down'.
Same here, leslie. A rare example these days of a thoroughly decent politician in politics. They are so depressingly few.
I respect Corbyn as a man but he was the worst thing to happen to the Labour party and British politics in my lifetime. He was a disaster of a leader and would have made an awful PM. We need people like him in politics but at the top? No chance.
@jbock2753 oh go back to your copy of The Daily Mail
@@jbock2753 jog on tory
This is scandalous and the silence of MSM is deafening
Corbyn was an odd one for me. I'm so used to politicians saying stuff I disagree with completely, but then Corbyn was saying stuff I was supporting; I had to check myself and make sure it wasn't me falling for some trap. Poor Corbyn, we were so close to the UK actually starting to sort itself out. Labour had my vote then, but now they've lost it completely.
This is why I am no longer a Labour party member. I am done with them.
That’s absurd. I was purged from the party for praising a Green Party policy. I appealed and got back in eventually but it was messy (and before they relented, they basically told me that praising the Greens on Twitter was akin to being a traitor). I left (voluntarily) under Starmer
What were you meant to do with a good idea? Claim it isn't?
Is emma8357 also your Twitter handle? I feel I need source proof of your claims before following blindly like the 54 bots(cough) sry, friends, in approving your comment.
The Labour Party is no longer a Labour Party. Jeremy Corbyn should start a new Party.
Red and Blue Tories.
If he's not let in Labour again, he could join the Greens... but as it stands a genuine social democratic party could overtake Labour in 2 terms, the problem is that there would b tories in government for 2 terms
I agree
@@Hecatonicosachoron "A real social democratic party could overtake Labour in two terms". 😂😂😂 That's the kind of silliness you get from living in leftoid echo chambers. If the Left had that kind of voter support then they'd still be in control of the Labour Party. The fact that they've been purged with almost no notice outside a couple of TH-cam channels says something.
It is. He was always on the left of the party and you can't say there isn't a lot of space between Tories and Socialist Workers, space for keeping things civilised and not being revolutionary, but promoting better welfare and being public-spirited. I think it's a winner!
He's not admitting. He's bragging.
I'm not even shocked. The worst of the worst crminals are in charge, they should all be in in prison, not in power.
Corbyn is a good man
How the hell do these people still have a job?? Intentionally undermining the organisation that they are working for?
Why aren’t the mainstream media covering this
They run it - even when Corbyn was leader he didn't have full control of the party (and didn't want it). He believed strongly in the democratic process of the party, rather than strengthening his position by replacing people with allies, and they used that against him
Not to mention the fraud! Can you imagine an ad agency running Facebook ads that only targeted their clients, to create the false impression they were doing their jobs, when in reality they just took the £10k budget and bought cocaine? What would happen when the fraud was discovered? I would think there'd be consequences. But not in Labour. Membership probably paid the fraudsters damages
Exactly, and the rules don't apply when you're working for the powerful monied interest. The rules only apply to everyday people.
@@LightingJedi because they are complicit!
I've come to the conclusion that believing in democracy as an adult is like believing in Santa Claus as a child.
A limited democracy, representative not direct and corporate media does not amount to democracy.
At least when you believe in Santa Claus as a child you get presents, belief in democracy as an adult brings you nothing!
it's like believing in a free market. very theoretically driven....
Just believing in socialism
If you think about it just because the majority of people want something that doesn't make it the right thing to do. Democracy is basically mob rule. The majority can deny the rights to a minority simply on the basis of a majority vote.
Good to see the Tories so upset
Oh sorry, they were " Labour" staffers
What other politician could go on stage at Glastonbury and not be booed ?
Zelenskyy.
Churchill
Not Starmer, that's for sure
I was Labour Party voting fodder for over 50 years until I read that leaked report and I won’t be voting Labour ever again.
You and me both!
And me too. I'd rather eat my own socks than vote for Starmer's Labour.
Nor I.
What alternative tory ???
@@eileencorcoran3057
Red and blue Tories
Or Green and SNP
For such a long established and wealthy nation with (apparently) robust social and electoral systems the UK has a very large democratic deficit and it is getting bigger. Without fixing this we will never have transformative change. What happened to Jeremy Corbyn was perhaps inevitable, no one was going to be permitted to lead a govt committed to bringing about such change. That he was done in by his own party, however, is truly disgusting.
Wealthy? How did you work that one out?
Ah yes hide the debts
@@Nickle314 Well, a country may be wealthy but it does not mean that wealth is divided equitably or fairly...!
Yawn. All it proved was that Corbyn had no business being head of the party.
Well said! The msm establishment and sectors of so called Labour could not allow a socialist leader back in that provided for all the people in fairness and justice!
@@zippymufo9765😞 As you are so tired, go to bed earlier and have a good night’s sleep🧸. Leave politics to the adults in the room!
Corbyn should have fought instead of allowing himself to be replaced. Right now he could form a new party as Starmer is hardly a popular leader.
Labour Left threw away its opportunity to purge the party of Tories.
yeh, because the labour left are democrats!
Yes. Corbyn believed in the idea of the Labour Party as a mutually tolerant broad church where, having expected the Left's support for the past 7 decades, it was now the Right's turn to reciprocate by giving their support to a Centre Left leaning leadership. The problem was that the "Broad Church" was always a lie. The Left were there to trudge the streets at election time and persuade other leftists to "hold their nose and vote labour" as the least worst option. When they gained power and started formulating policy that was game over. They had to go. Next election will be crunch time. I wonder how many of us will have the good sense to take off the nose peg and vote against what is now an unapologetically alternative Tory Party.
Tell me, what is the point of voting for Starmer if he isn't going to change anything?
@@badenhowell3312 Do you also have the winning lottery numbers for next weekend, Baden... ??
@@badenhowell3312 Because we can hold him to account be the principles he's pretended to hold. Sunak has a mandate of principles we oppose.
I don't know which WhatsApp group it came from, but my personal favourite quote after the election was "The people have spoken, and we're just gonna have to suck it up... Bastards"
I detect the wiff of a pissed off fascist.
I'm not even surprised anymore. In its current state, I'm done with Labour.
Well done Novara!
I LOVE JEREMY CORBYN
Love comrades always my brothers and sisters
me too
Me too!
The one decent leader and they didn't want it. Being a politician is just about grifting and working for the big companies.
As the late great George Carlin once said "forgot politicians, there just put there to give you the illusion that you have choice"
Good comedian, but that was BS. If elections didn’t matter, the wealthy wouldn’t try to steal them.
Solution is the right of consent as a human right. The right won’t allow it and the left certainly wont
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If voting made a difference they wouldn't let us do it
It used to make a difference! People fought and died just to have a vote. They've been streamlining our choices for SO long, it's hard to not feel this way. We used to be told about 'the three main parties', then it became a 'two-party race' and now we're being told that the only way our vote matters is to vote for Labour because they're 'marginally better'. Don't be fooled into giving up.
There are plenty of other parties we could've been voting for this whole time. We have to begin to actually EXERCISE our right to vote and our freedom of choice so that this narrative can finally break down. To give up our vote is to lose all hope that we're free.@@garydixon4290
Corbyn is far better than the current 'Labour' party.
Aren't the establishment clever eh.
To think if corbyn was prime minister, how different this country would be, and he certainly wouldn't stand by and watch the Palestinian people suffer, 😢
He was the best prime minister we never had 😢, God help this country
He’d have to walk back his Hamas comments
Still can’t understand how people can’t understand how disastrous Corbyn was for Labour
@waynereid9471 judging by your comment I think you struggle to understand alot of things
@@KillaKermit Miaow!
😂
What's Corbyn going to do? Answer nothing. Is he going to send the armed forces in? Of course not.
He would spout off and its all hot air.
And I thought stories such as House of Cards and the political theme to Our Friends in the North were just fiction!? Closer to the truth than one would ever give credit for!😢
It's a Lose Lose situation for Working Class Britain now.
The Right Wing Labour Movement Leadership are in opposition to the Extreme Right Wing Tory Party.
Scotland and Wales should be thinking strongly about their future in this one-sided Union.
It's everywhere the same, no difference in the US and the EU.
It's called neoliberalism. which is basically co-opting all major centre parties, and sideline the sol-called "extreme" lef and right, to implement policies that create wealth for the already rich and maintain that status quo. Whoever gets close to a position in power is vetted long before you can vote on them.
@@PropagandasaurusRex
And if push comes to shove, the far right is much more compatible with those rich folk staying powerful than the left is. So when people start demanding change they get in bed with the far right to keep power.
Glances at the Tories and the Republicans across the pond.
A Labour friend of mine says you should stay in the party because you can't influence it if you leave (I left after Corbyn was stabbed in the back). This reporting suggests we've got zero chance of influencing it. We'll be given thin gruel and we're supposed to be grateful.
The best way to influence the Labour Party is to copy farage. Unions leave and form a new party. Starmer’s Labour will be done inside 2 years, unless they in turn replace the tories as the elite right wing party.
@@jgmediting7770 This is a great idea, less splitting the vote, more 'Faraging the vote'!
The illusion of democracy 😢
He's allowed back in under starmer because labours now blue. He's a stooge
Thanks
That is the very reason I will never vote for Labour again.
“Oh, that guy is bad, so I won’t vote for a guy I know is good.” Really?
@@ericpmoss Nobody thinks Starmer is good. He's just about marginally better than the Cons and that might win him an election but how he keeps power, if he has no money to spend (as he keeps saying) will be interesting.
Well, it's back to "New" Labour again and after Starmer tries to avoid saying anything until election time, we will likely find another "globalist" that cares more about money than people.
@@alfsmith4936”If he has no money to spend” If you believe that lie, go join the tories Alf. The country has had enough of austerity and starmer isn’t proposing austerity.
@@ecaeas4439 I don't believe that lie but the very fact he's saying it (and lying) makes me think his idea of less austerity is keeping things the way they are now, whilst blaming the last Conservative government, which won't win him a second term.
I prefer Raynor.. Can the party 'do a Corbyn' on Starmer and get her in charge please?
I've voted Labour in every election since 1978 but then I realised it's pointless voting because we live in a one party state.
Only as the result of an ongoing narrative that our political system is a 'two-party race'. If the main two parties don't represent you, find the one that does and vote for that, because our political system is NOT a 'two-party' race, and you have the freedom choice. The moment we willingly give up our vote, is the moment we lose more than just an election - we lose our voice, our freedom to choose, and our hope (which is the worst of all).
"It's a big club and you ain't in it". George Carlin
Just makes me wonder what these people want for society? They surely live in some kind of ego bound political vacuum?
Just disgraceful.
This is not surprising and makes me so angry. It's why I am now a Green Party member.
I’ll be voting Green next time.
Same
A step many people are taking, more now since Keefs failure to condemn Israel.
Ditto
Feels like Green is the only right choice at the moment
What’s the point in voting any more it’s insulting the voter making a mug of the public I’m so disgusted
Don't give up hope... Choose a party that you agree with (whether it's one of the main two or not) and vote for them. You will still be exercising your right to vote, you won't be giving up your voice, and you never know... our political system allows for more freedom in our choices than just the main two that are thrown at us. We don't have to accept the 'two-party race' narrative our media's been forcing on us for so long! @ryandavies4197
Public control of commodities was such an extreme idea back then and its quite clearly what we need right now.
Ive never seen a politician predict the future as well as Corbyn.
It wasn't even extreme, Corbyn's policies were fairly tame and had widespread support (especially if the polling didn't associate them with him or Labour specifically). He had a fairly modest agenda for steering the country in a different direction and even that was too much to be allowed
@cactustactics yeah they did a job on him. Just looking at the media's widespread support of Israel atm and I think he didn't stand a chance realistically.
You had it with the post office and bt and it was a disaster
You have it with TfL and that’s a disaster. Billions in subsidies and multiple bailouts. One of the causes of austerity
@@cactustactics A few of those extreme ideas are done elsewhere in the world too, successfully. Scotland, for example…
Corbyn was the best you had tbh, and people were stupid enough to be convinced from helping themselves
Mostly run of the mill social democratic policies...
the ones that were novel is putting employee representation in the administration of private companies, and giving them the right to buy the company if it were to be sold or went under.
Nevertheless, it was the best government the UK never had. Could have averted many covid deaths and prevented fuel poverty we have now.
This is what happens when you have integrity in politics.
Blaming the west for Russia's unprovoked invasion and refusing to condemn a terrorist attack on children is having integrity? You must have the same definition of integrity as Sunak does.
@@wc8246it was provoked by NATO expansion. Thirty years of pushing the old bear’s firmly stated boundaries got them the war they wanted.
@@matthewcunningham5069 Russia had 6000 nukes, you can have that *OR* be a whimp. not both, Corbyn's political takes begin and end at "West do bad" and nothing more.
@@wc8246 Russia's invasion was not unprovoked. Stop spreading lies.
@@It_Matters_Not Address the point and give your argument please. Your comment may as well have said "Nuh uh u wrong"
These people should be in prison
No room. We need to build some more private 'for profit' prisons fast, before the public realise they don't need to pay for shopping/fuel, or how easy it would be to overthrow the government by making the streets of every town and city seem like Brixton in the 1980s.
@@alfsmith4936 There's a boat and plane going
@@TwitchingBomb I think they'll need a bigger one..
@@alfsmith4936 Agreed especially if we are counting the blues. Rwanda it is then, I could skip a meal or two to help fund the flight
Edit: "Flights"
@@TwitchingBomb I could rob a bank to get on one.
Took the shine off Labour quite considerably for an entire generation
Corbyn never stood a chance, it’s disgusting
I want to ask Starmer, "Are you satisfied with the result of the 2019 election?"
A nice thought, only MP's are not in the business of actually answering questions.
Labour will never get my vote again. Simple as that. There is no party that represents my views so why would I vote for anyone just because they are a lesser of two evils. You vote in that way, than you give credence to the system as it is and the system does not work.
Until you’ve come up with a way to change the system, being apathetic helps the current governing party more than anyone else by not providing the inertia to shift them out of power which is what it takes. So well done.
Vote Green. At least it’s a positive step that won’t benefit the tories.
@@AtheistEve I have my reservations about them.. but.. I'm more likely to vote greens than Labour. At least their green policies are in vastly more the right direction than labour.
Never knew this before today our democracy has gone so scary but true trust is eroded
The whole thing really opened my eyes. That's for sure!
Shame on those scumbags. I will never vote for the present labour party under starmer
We'll see more of these 'revelations' the further away we get from the 2019 GE.
It is genuinely scary that in a year, these people will hold the levers of power in this country
I was a labour party member back then and this made me leave.
So this is all out and absolutely nothing happened, that tells you more then anything else….
the ‘Integrity Initiative’, the ‘Institute for Statecraft’, ‘77th Brigade’
Its just sad he would of actually done something to help the people of this nation instead we got Boris and Starmer. But hey the people mean nothing they are just for cheap labour its big business and the share holders that really matter in our country these days. I've not voted since just not one worth the vote in my area and voting Labour in with Starmer i might as well vote for the Con...
I love it when the truth is finally told.
Why is this person not facing charges over this? Harassment is an offence.
This highlights the corruption endemic in the labour party
What happened to Corbyn was disgusting. It's like what happened to Al Gore in the US; everything bad that followed would have been different, if only because he wouldn't have made some of the same ridiculous decisions.
I'm not even a fan of Corbyn but I still don't understand the extent of the hate boner for him.
Because whether you agree with him or not, you know that Corbyn is genuinely telling you what he thinks.
@@fatdaddy1996 have you ever listened to someone with delusions. They do the same
Because he wouldn't take the knee..as Sunak and starmer have so clearly demonstrated this week..
It's because he couldn't be bought! His honesty terrified the political class! The majority of them are just self-serving, with their snout in the trough!
It’s simple enough to understand. His part of the political spectrum is anti-capitalist and represents the working class rather than the capitalist elite. Add to that he was the first main party leader in 50 years to not be on board with what the isreali government are doing.
In a Liberal democracy, the soft right Liftist Liberal faction of the elite control the left. That’s what the Labour right are. Agents of capital. Their common class interests align with the more right wing Conservative and Liberal factions of the elite. The only difference is the Leftist Liberals belief in some state intervention as opposed to none, so the working class keep their heads above water and the capitalist system doesn’t collapse.
Corbyn for PM.
oh hang on, he's not an idiot and he has a heart.
Better leave Labour to compete with the heartless idiocy.
Having the gall and hypocrisy to take a wage while actively working against your employer? That's theft, pure and simple. Or impure and devious. I've seen people sacked for petty pilfering, and have to scrape a living because they couldn't get benefits. And those slimeballs leave and return as if they're heroes.? I won't vote Labour again.
I used to be a member of the labour party and left about 4 years ago.
I liked Jeremy Corbyn but unfortunately Labour as a party were not going to support him and the infighting just meant we lost yet another election. I have to say I was just as mad Corbyn for not stepping down sooner once it was clear he would have no hope in winning because I thought his pride shouldn't come before the party.
But Kier fucking Starmer?
Labour is no longer the party I supported and i will never vote for tories.
Nothing surprises me anymore
I am actually kinda speechless
Yet MSM for the most part never mention it. Quite, quite disgusting.
They are stamping on alternative media
British Labour party the second Tory party !
I went to school with one of the Labour shadow ministers.
He had the I.Q.of an inbred gerbil. Frequent brushes with the law as a juvenile - from petty theft to arson.
Got swept into the party between the wins of the '90s and '00s. Smiled and said/did what he was told to really well.
He's now helping shape Labour policy...
The Labor party sounds like greed and ego.
What a W⚓️ he is (Ian).
If this is true they are a disgrace they wanted to put Starmer in place a man with no backbone, give me Corbyn every time
Corbett a better man than stamer
Congrats on the 400k, now to the half a million!
I am done with them but I could never be a con
I'm going back to believing Elvis is still alive...it certainly makes more sense than believing in the Labour Party.
I'm in Scotland and Scottish Labour should also be looked at for involvement in losing Scottish Labour further 13 seats on purpose, I'm ex Labour 30 years and vote for the snp. Even we didn't understand scot Labour tactically voting sco torys over kezia Dugdale until it was leaked her and IAN Murray were encouraging Labour folk to vote torys they hated corbyn seen him as a risk to the union.
We will never get a prime minister that the corporations haven’t signed off on. Also I think JC was wrong to not back Brexit, lost a lot of Labour heartland with that.
Then we'll just have to smash the corporations then and take the power back where it belongs,with the people,wont we.
Yeah, because Brexit has been such an outstanding success, hasn't it? Not.
@@Marvhead you are right but it wasn’t a comment on whether Brexit was a good idea or not. Just that a lot of Labour supporters especially in the north believed Brexit was a good thing at the time. Corbyn lost a lot of votes to Boris pro Brexit stance. The vote had happened and people at the time expected it to be respected, even if they since regret it.
Not the point Marvhead, the point is we voted for it, so trying to derail it was undemocratic.
If he had backed brexit he'd be just like the other morally bankrupt MP's. He fought for what he thought was best for people, even when our hoodwinked population had been convinced otherwise.
Makes me rage
So now we can sue for the return of our membership fees?
If Corbyn managed to become prime minister, it would have cost him his life. Literally.
Absolutely.
Yeah pulled the same trick as they did on Dr David Kelly, Robert Maxwell and good old jeffrey Epstein ..I bet Ghislaine sleeps every night with one eye wide open..just incase the guards disappear for coffee and the cctv suffers a temporary glitch..
And yet his policies were no different to that of Germany and Scandinavian countries-you couldn’t make it up
The U.K. is politically backward
@@adriftinaboat3452 it's a cuckoo state..has been for quite some time.
@@adriftinaboat3452 In some ways he was different. But what's more important, and what led to him being ousted, is that he is not part of the neoliberal clique, nor wanted to become part of it. As prime minister he could have done some serious damage to the system, and that made him "dangerous". Much like they perceive Trump now in the US.
harry burns is due a good kicking, y' know, for democracy.
That's just the sort of thing Trump says. Congratulations
@@bookie5667 it's the sort of thing i say, hence me saying it.
@@bookie5667 Technically what he did meets the criteria for treason by undermining democracy.
We all need to get behind Mr Corbyn and help him support Ham Ass, they are his friends, and any friend of Jeremy Corbyn is a friend of ours and novara media 👍🏼
I will never vote Labour again.
Can people stop gaslighting us every time we point out this obvious fact now?
My level of anger at this is apoplectic
As far as I remember NM eventually fell inline with the 'antisemitism crisis' charade. Any lessons learnt ?
What the hell are these people doing? Corbyn is close to winning and the poor lambs were losing their minds.
He should be expelled from the Labour Party
That is not only fraud but that's government fraud and that should be illegal and he should be pressed charges against and find all the way down to his almost last penny
THIS is why I can't vote Lab again. I HATE the Cons - their actions over their time in gov speak for themselves.... That said, even with the Tories' shitty performance, it's not nearly enough to make me vote for these back-stabbing careerists.
labour and stammer wont be getting my vote.. its green or nothing
What exactly are labour going to do with people like that? Are meant to believe they will not be like the tories ?
I followed British politics through Swiss state-run media. I had been campaigning for Windyday Concept, teaching students renewable jobs & uses of hemp & bamboo, and converting factories to making the building blocks for a real GND. Jeremy Corbyn listened and talked about it for one day. And was so viciously attacked he backed down. No one had his back.
Swiss are the home to the petrochemical industry and it's financial goons.
They never mentioned JC without saying he was AS and couldn't govern. I'm sure that Mockingbird Media is run out of Swiss media companies since they can translate into any language you want to gaslight people.
I'm trying to lead a protest at EPAC in Bulle, since they had accepted a course in 2018 to do WDC. But it was blocked 2 days later by Big Oil. And they refuse to unblock it. There are zero climate groups supporting it. They'd rather do Roadkill and Superglue protests.
I'm sure they've ben co-opted.
Thanks to recent events this will start coming to light like a tsunami.
When back in the 80's trying to get Dave Nellist Terry Fields &Pat Wall at the time part of Militant we came to the conclusion we had organise the election campaigns on our own.Because the party officialidom would sabotage it!
I dont identify with the labor left. But it should leave the Labor Party! Show Starmer that all his meddling an d plotting led to naught! The labor left is being taken for granted!
Well said
Ta
And the slime trail leads back to the Israeli Embassy and Mandelson with Bloodyhand Blair.
What democratic system?
Democracy is a stillborn in the UK.
One can never trust a politician.
It’s the economic system that produces such political systems that’s the issue. Politicians are just a symptom.
One of the priminister we never had . Corbyn .
Corbyn doesn’t support Israel war crimes . That’s why they he had no chance
Now these people want left ‘solidarity’ and unity to win the next General Election…
Seen documentary.. sad