Show your Backend Engineering Skills To Recruiters - Building a Full Backend Portfolio

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  • A lot of you guys ask me this question. “I have experience but not sure how to show it, how do I build my backend portfolio such that I can get hired in my dream job. “ Building a backend portfolio takes time and effort and In this video, I will be discussing 9 tools that you can include to your swiss army knife to build a full backend portfolio.
    0:00 Intro
    * Live Projects 1:50
    * System Design Documents 3:45
    * Architectural/System Design Diagrams 5:45
    * UX/UI (in case of frontend) 7:13
    * Papers 8:30
    * Books 9:50
    * Blog articles 10:55
    * Videos 12:44
    * Podcast 14:45
    * Summary 15:45
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  • @iamunknownperiod3355
    @iamunknownperiod3355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    OH SHT U READ MY MIND. THAT'S WHAT I WAS SEARCHING FOR THIESE PAST DAYS. Frontend devs has a straightforward way of showing their work but idk how to do it with backend.

    • @rayaanhussain7279
      @rayaanhussain7279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      literally same.

    • @watchocho2660
      @watchocho2660 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Frontend is a mess.

    • @kentestes192
      @kentestes192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Watchocho, yeah it is a mess - but a very visual mess. its a lot harder to get the Ooo-aahh! effect with backend stuff.

    • @vishalnarang2704
      @vishalnarang2704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      #youtubealgorithms

  • @vladmorevlad2232
    @vladmorevlad2232 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    buddy thank you for what you bring to the community. You are amazing and your work is greatly appreciated. May you have peace and prosperity in your life

  • @cBake0
    @cBake0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thats super cool that you specialize in GIS. One of my first real jobs in tech, I was hired to build a social media platform for building communities around businesses. One of the main features was to have businesses be searchable by location. I used Postgres with PostGIS to store my data which I got from the google maps api for the address of the business doing reverse lookup. Used that to create a query that returned all locations from our system within a given distance radius and pinned those to an interactive Google Map. Considering that I was solo and very much a junior dev at that time I will always be proud of it.

  • @yazidkrayem7408
    @yazidkrayem7408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    In a way, we know all about these skills "BUT", it's a prove to hear from an expert engineer. Thank you

  • @KajalSomaiya
    @KajalSomaiya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is soooo good..
    I am glad you put it all together!

  • @jithin_zac
    @jithin_zac 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was always looking for this. Thanks a ton ❤️!!

  • @PranayAnkit
    @PranayAnkit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for making this video. I was always confused about showing my work, now I finally have the direction where I should proceed.

  • @ashwanigupta5412
    @ashwanigupta5412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is gold. Thanks Hussein!

  • @mona.supremacy
    @mona.supremacy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking about following exactly the same (except for diagrams) steps and this video has doubled my certainty. Thank you

  • @francksgenlecroyant
    @francksgenlecroyant 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the few guys who deserves my like and comment, Hussein Nasser. Thank you bro!

  • @ashtarpaniagua4732
    @ashtarpaniagua4732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, thank you for this. I’m going to focus on live projects, design / specification documents, and blog articles. Cheers!

  • @sudo_garrett
    @sudo_garrett 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this video is fucking amazing. super underrated. i haven’t found this insightful information anywhere else. thank you.

  • @rajdeeppurkayastha3287
    @rajdeeppurkayastha3287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every video I watch on this channel. I take away something useful. Thank you 🙏

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear that ❤️

  • @ismailnurudeen
    @ismailnurudeen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    * Live Projects
    * System Documents/Design
    * Blog Articles
    * Tech Talks (I think you forgot this one 🙂)
    I think I'm gonna focus on the above to build and improve my portfolio.
    Really great video btw. 👍🏾 👏🏾

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Right! Tech talks thanks!

  • @varaprasadreddy6420
    @varaprasadreddy6420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    waiting for this for a long time...
    Thanks

  • @vaibhavgupta5022
    @vaibhavgupta5022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for another great video Hussein.

  • @wattsfield1889
    @wattsfield1889 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great video. Gave me great ideas for my next job application

  • @eugeneyap4208
    @eugeneyap4208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Really nice advice, sounds pretty realistic too. I'm currently looking to switch career from testing to development, and hopefully your method of building portfolio can get me to places =)

    • @libanjama4080
      @libanjama4080 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats wrong with testing? And how has the switch been if you’ve already switched

  • @prabhatyadav8189
    @prabhatyadav8189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great...video brother....such a comprehensive and dense info...with extreme precision

  • @OthmanSO
    @OthmanSO ปีที่แล้ว

    really nice work I like how much effort you put in this

  • @sammyj29
    @sammyj29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pure talent. Thank you for such insights. I am going to start writing articles now.

  • @techtalk668
    @techtalk668 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks @'Hussein for such awesome content, i could watch it for hours.

  • @frankcasanova2132
    @frankcasanova2132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i think the most valuable thing in this video is the part where he talked about documentation, but all contens of the video have awesome tips i think

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thanks Frank!!

  • @thekaushikls
    @thekaushikls ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the effort you have put into this video.

  • @soumalyakundu2354
    @soumalyakundu2354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always something new to learn ❤️

  • @ekhatordennisikponwosa3375
    @ekhatordennisikponwosa3375 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now i see the importance of UX and UI diagrams, wireframes etc in back end coding. Thank you

  • @RahulYadav-nk6wp
    @RahulYadav-nk6wp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I am glad that you covered doc with arch. Diagrams. I have diagrams, but I never put words to that, well now I do.

  • @G4BZZZ_
    @G4BZZZ_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is very helpfull, just changed my perspective!

  • @Abstract.x
    @Abstract.x 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great advice Hussein :) thank you

  • @CamaradaArdi
    @CamaradaArdi ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this actually motivated me to start a blog!

  • @shreyasgangurde2185
    @shreyasgangurde2185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the video is not too long if it is continuously giving out knowledge...this video was much needed for me.

  • @elv10s
    @elv10s 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for share this video, you help me understand the better way to building my portfolio

  • @ayusharyal6346
    @ayusharyal6346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was currently looking for the same. I'm a fresher working hard to get a job in mern stack and this was very helpful

  • @martynaznajdek1113
    @martynaznajdek1113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this valuable video, it brings a lot of content and concrete information. It's very helpful for beginner backend developers or developers 'to be' :)

  • @ayusharora2019
    @ayusharora2019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Big fan, watched most of your videos !! Just followed you on Linkedin. I am a full stack developer, focussing majorly on backend. Want to become like you someday.

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ❤️ wish you all the best Ayush

  • @lakshayasood2197
    @lakshayasood2197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right time in my life I got this video

  • @ng4logic
    @ng4logic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good examples of documents are srs (system requirenments specification) and sds (system design specification)

  • @mtiapps
    @mtiapps 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks man you really helped me !!

  • @demidrek-heyward
    @demidrek-heyward 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Hussein!

  • @Miguel-fv9cm
    @Miguel-fv9cm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a video talking about the scaling problems gab is facing and solving right now, their dev team is really responsive.

  • @szilardfineascovasa6144
    @szilardfineascovasa6144 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent, as usual. Thanks!
    You made me smile at some point. It is, sometimes, hard to prove that you did "all that work" 😆 - depends how deep of a proof they want, and how good your memory is when it comes to odd details. I'll never count out plain weirdness.
    Hope no one will be so curious, even with all those nice comments I liked to plaster everywhere in my code, about the intricacies of notarizing something on macOS when I was doing it forced to disregard Apple's "way to do it"(TM) in an app that was using a custom runtime. It was like: "you're on your own, buster; here's some half-baked docs for your kind. Also, speaking of notarizing your weird JRE implementation-based app, here's access to an unoffficial support thread. Oh yeah, with some of our own engineers that are well-meaning but sometimes dumbfounded themselves...because you are a beta tester for a service we enforce. That, btw, goes down randomly and this will block your releases for days."
    We were integrating some 3rd party web rendering component in the application and rarely have I felt as proud as when one of their guys asked me: "Can I publish on our internal Wiki what you sent me? We've had three engineers toiling at this for two weeks and they still haven't cracked it."
    But the whole ecosystem in there? Long lost somewhere in the desert part of my mind.
    When I left the company, I wrote "a book" on the subject, indeed, and had quite a few recorded seminars on the whole release topic.

  • @iQatif
    @iQatif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bro. Hussain,
    In the lately of '80s, We improved our skills depending on writing drafts along with purchasing cassette tapes, watching VHS or purchasing Books from overseas countries. but the most systematic part was exchanging skills and abilities with friends and experts locally.
    Unlike these days, Sharing knowledge and demonstrating skills become very easy now. however, and believe me, on this one, the most important part of these skills and talented people are hidden from us. they can not share their abilities and show them to the public, and they have their reasons,
    either they do not have time or because of terms of the confidentially related to their job in the company they working with.
    We all aware and deeply know technologies are growing and changing very fast as well as technology companies are racing and competing with each other.
    You're absolutely right Abu Ali, indeed and that's how things should go.
    شكرا لك اخي الكريم

  • @HusnaRamadan
    @HusnaRamadan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the fantastic guides...thank you

  • @shubhakardebroy2111
    @shubhakardebroy2111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First comment and just loving your video

  • @NormandoHall
    @NormandoHall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    As Argentinian watcher of you channel (and developer of course), the best you have is your non native english pronunciation. It's perfect for non english speakers like me (spanish language). Thanks for your advices!

    • @frankcasanova2132
      @frankcasanova2132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yo creía que era nativo, ojalá yo con ese nivel jajaja

    • @NormandoHall
      @NormandoHall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@frankcasanova2132 precisamente, por no ser nativo americano se comprende a la perfección. Si fuese nativo británico, también se comprendería perfecto.

    • @frankcasanova2132
      @frankcasanova2132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NormandoHall en el mundito del backend hay mucho inglés con acento indú y mi cerebro no procesa bien ese acento jajajaj pero recursos en inglés/indú hay muchiiiiisimo pero bufff... Cuesta cuesta xd

    • @pedrograngeiro3849
      @pedrograngeiro3849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For me too. I am brazilian and i'ts perfect for non english speakers.

    • @MilsonPazienza
      @MilsonPazienza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also understand better non-native English.

  • @JagjitBrawler
    @JagjitBrawler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    “Lotta people use UML, if you’re into kinky things”
    Literally burst out laughing rofl

    • @JagjitBrawler
      @JagjitBrawler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Serious question: how do you come up with ideas for backend projects?

    • @ambarishkapil8004
      @ambarishkapil8004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@JagjitBrawler Made me recheck the video title

  • @savingday
    @savingday 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will remember to include a paper I wrote 9 years ago on my portfolio/resume

  • @idawud
    @idawud 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think it will nice if you can make a video on the developing a proper System Design Documents

  • @MrAbhithepandey
    @MrAbhithepandey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video.

  • @geoaxis
    @geoaxis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for a great summary. What is your view on certifications (for the sake of getting noticed by recruiters)? (on top of your formal education)

  • @pprathameshmore
    @pprathameshmore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your motivation sir 😭

  • @omparikh4426
    @omparikh4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    please talk about screen sharing over web(e.g google meet), thanks for regular backend content!

  • @Flankymanga
    @Flankymanga 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    C4 model... Hmm interresting. I will go and have look. I never thought that there exists something beside UML to model software architecture. Thanks for sharing!

  • @Implicitdefcncdragneel
    @Implicitdefcncdragneel 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big fan man.

  • @mehulsatardekar8985
    @mehulsatardekar8985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hussein could you share some system design resources for freshers or would u make some because your so good at explaining complex things. Love yours videos sir🙏🙂 ..

  • @waleedbensumaidea3947
    @waleedbensumaidea3947 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Hussain

  • @iambasanta
    @iambasanta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    yayayay. Thank you so much .

  • @franco-gil
    @franco-gil 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it.

  • @withincity
    @withincity 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    To do all of these, after 9-6 job, you need lots of energy/good health. How do you manage that? What's the impact on social activities?

    • @akashaggarwal3041
      @akashaggarwal3041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂

    • @neociber24
      @neociber24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      "social activities"?

    • @JayMaverick
      @JayMaverick ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Get a job that's not draining you 9-6 holy shit.

    • @joshbarghest7058
      @joshbarghest7058 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JayMaverick these are pretty scarce in some places. South Korea for instance.

    • @vinividipepe
      @vinividipepe ปีที่แล้ว

      What are soical atviticies ?

  • @alirmaity1570
    @alirmaity1570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content great TH-camr ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Loicmartins
    @Loicmartins 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks a lot!

  • @NastyWicked
    @NastyWicked 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video as always.
    100k subs QnA stream == true?

  • @joseverto6818
    @joseverto6818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid advise

  • @centurion3708
    @centurion3708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Those are really good advices for people with years of experience, but it sounds way to complex to do for someone whos's aspiring to get their first job on the deveolpment world as backend dev, like myself

  • @cyrusnikkopante6806
    @cyrusnikkopante6806 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for this! i am also working on the gis, webgis field :) , trying to incorporate web maps to the portfolio

  • @davidpaez_co
    @davidpaez_co 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!!!

  • @rajeshkishore7171
    @rajeshkishore7171 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hats off to you.

  • @israalfiki
    @israalfiki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Hussein, I was looking for a video like that and I actually thought about asking you to make one! So, thank you! What projects would you suggest for a junior developer who's trying to land their first job though? What kind of live projects should I make other than the CRUD, APIs and all that stuff?
    Thank you.

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yes these are good start, you can take a simple CRUD API and spend so much time articulating exactly how it works.
      Remember its not just about the code.

  • @carljustinemosquida9614
    @carljustinemosquida9614 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see more examples or walkthroughs

  • @fronix5060
    @fronix5060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like the simplest way is to build very small projects and put them in a github repo. I'm talking small things that solve a specific problem just to show your skills on how you implement for example authentication or whatever you are really good at.

  • @slan7
    @slan7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super video! I applauded for CA$2.00 👏

  • @dinoscheidt
    @dinoscheidt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Write a very simple “Situation -> Complication -> Solution” memo on a integration / scaling / your problem space of interest - challenge. That tells me already a lot as a CTO. Cherry on top if you have it on github with proof of concept runnable as dev container / Docker Compose / Kubernetes set-up. Don’t forget that what backend guys experience as “skill signaling issue” is 1:1 the same for the rest of the world. A business or strategy consultant can also not build an example business and point people to a website. Use these techniques as well and don’t get sucked into the flawed “push vecel” done trap. I want to see problem solving skills… not how to avoid them (99% of businesses are by definition brown field projects). My 2ct.

  • @ritwizsinha1261
    @ritwizsinha1261 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    U my greatest mentor

  • @alond5271
    @alond5271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great channel!!! Can you make video about cloud ? AWS maybe?

  • @eyadhisham8094
    @eyadhisham8094 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    funny enough, i was just thinking about doing all of these.. and voila! here is an expert dude on youtube telling me just to do it. (how does these services read our minds!)
    great video man, Keep up the good work.

  • @HamzaKhan-oz2xm
    @HamzaKhan-oz2xm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Through contributing in the Open Source

  • @AHMEDHASSAN-wf9nu
    @AHMEDHASSAN-wf9nu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I`m realy proud that you are an arabian, so thank u that u give us a great rodmap

  • @Hearschk
    @Hearschk ปีที่แล้ว

    That 70's show!!

  • @devhipster
    @devhipster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Hussein I've been rejected because a lack of demonstration like this even though I ve done some interesting projects.
    Hussein we need subscribers'project review If you have time to

  • @lee_johnson
    @lee_johnson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked for (kind of) ESRI before. Interesting technology but I have experienced ill treatment in outsourced locations.

  • @Andreterragt
    @Andreterragt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Musashi book on the shelf 👍

  • @machinelearningid3931
    @machinelearningid3931 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @a21ambre
    @a21ambre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    YES. UMLs are KINKY. YES. 😂

  • @khanriza
    @khanriza 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blog for sure.

  • @a_k__
    @a_k__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you make a video about how you as a professional backend developer learning new concepts and keep you knowledge up to date? ie what general resource/medium are you using?

    • @snghnishant
      @snghnishant 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Company engineering blogs are really well written sources for getting such kind of knowledge. For more niche stuff you can definitely look for a technical documentation or design docs.

  • @marinehakobyan7005
    @marinehakobyan7005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just the thing for the jun that wants to upgrade to mid and more. Just go and make the code documented, then link it in the resume ))

  • @codezpro880
    @codezpro880 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi @hussein nasser, can we add the information about the projects which we did with companies during the job? I mean, just abstract level diagrams.

  • @AO-ko3cd
    @AO-ko3cd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    متشكر جدا ❤

  • @sanilkhurana3991
    @sanilkhurana3991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Hussein, thanks for the great content. The only problem I face though is that I never know that the project I am building/blog posts I write, etc. are good enough. Should I aim for something more complex? What is a good level project for a junior, a mid level or a senior engineer?

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think you need to challenge yourself more, usually to the things that I think was easy turns out to be the things that I don’t understand when I go back with fresh eyes. Would you mind sharing a blog post?

    • @sanilkhurana3991
      @sanilkhurana3991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hnasr Thanks for replying! It is actually a TH-cam video I made or a few. I can share the link if you are interested because I never made the videos listed. Here is one - th-cam.com/video/Iqr0HqDMHi4/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SanilKhurana.

  • @muhammaddavatgar4973
    @muhammaddavatgar4973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love you man
    and your face is so gorgeous :)

  • @sessionexpert
    @sessionexpert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    can you please share all the books you have in your shelf?

  • @helloworld9134
    @helloworld9134 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed

  • @DuyTran-ss4lu
    @DuyTran-ss4lu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great

  • @dieudonnemukunzi529
    @dieudonnemukunzi529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hussein is like the Tai Lopez of backend development... Stinking table tags 🤣💥🚀

  • @adelhishem1
    @adelhishem1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this meant for people with some experience exclusively? If so, how would a beginner approach the matter? How big is the MVP should be? Is it not an overkill to use uml diagrams and requirements docs for a relatively small demo project? Thanks a lot for sharing the wisdom.

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not necessarily, you can start from scratch and document your journey of learning using the 9 tools/mediums I explain in this video.

  • @salesforcedream
    @salesforcedream 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for ur information but still I have confusion about live project. If we build any project in backend technology like java then how client can understand as this project is not containing any UI

  • @kareemshaaban112
    @kareemshaaban112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u give me example about technical decision that i have to add to documents because and didn't understand very well? and Thank You :)

  • @The-fv7xi
    @The-fv7xi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your Back-end Engineering Videos are Quality based and comprehensive. Nice if you do the same Quality Videos for Front-end.

  • @hmod7389
    @hmod7389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am not sure if you have done this but, I was wondering if you can recommend some books that have personally helped you or you just think will helpful to people in general.

    • @hnasr
      @hnasr  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Here is a video where I talked about that th-cam.com/video/59Z3DlSu8tU/w-d-xo.html

  • @mahendranath2504
    @mahendranath2504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi then can you please suggest to me if a person is trying to get as backend developer how can we start working on it on his only (example for frontend there are a lot of ideas to start with and learn, like clone's but for backend development, how would one garin experience until he lands in the real-time project) so to get a good understanding on the backend engineering is there any way to start with